Hi, I am a law student often struggling with internships. Would like to be in touch with people who are struggling with the same. I applied to CMS Indus Law a few weeks back along with one of my friends , my friend got a rejection email in 2 days, while I did not get any email. I don't know whether to be happy or sad. All of his internships are litigation based, while I have interned at a Tier 2 firm before, what should I expect? Can someone clear this confusion. I'm worrieddd ::))))

The place is basically a contracts factory where the crux of the work you do is doc review. Basically POs and MSAs; and the rare occasional advisory work. Your butt will become one with the office chair after a point; and you might lose interest in generally enjoying literature, from the sheer quantity of terms and confiton you read every day. The partners (except for the newly minted one) are decent and highly knowledgable people. ▮▮▮

Are you for real? You're saying that the OP posted this because he is jealous. You are also saying that you agree with the proposal in principle. Basic reasoning concludes that you're jealous too. You people are definitely not getting the quality of legal education in these universities as you should.

Yeah the brand name is also dying but people stay back for the learning. There is typical chamber slavery here as well. Surprising because it's not like that from outside. I just quit there after almost 2 years coz I have 6 years PQE along with this. They pay is decent but actual opportunities to appear are very less. Not associates but interns funnily bully associates. I can also confirm this on email.

I do not get why mods remove comments. I have been working there - it's amazing for internships, it's amazing to look at from outside if you're looking at an associate position but once you are in it is ▮▮▮ ▮▮▮ - there is one particular set of associates who are bullies here ▮▮▮. I can confirm this on dm/emails with more tangible proof.

Standards are dropping fast is quite a statement to make. Backed by no evidence obviously, because T1s are securing advisory mandates at record pace these days. Like someone has mentioned below, the ability to secure mandates directly linked to T1 status because all big industry clients know that only we are capable of being trusted advisors and counsels to business.

Senior advocates think they are the cats whiskers and only they know the law. Unfortunately, you litigators have no interest in learning how business works (and we T1 lawyers have expertise in understanding business, which is why we are routinely approached for mandates). Please understand that T1 lawyers and partners main job is to keep clients out of the press/court, which is achieved in a stellar fashion. In litigation scenarios, this would obviously change. If it is in the clients interest to pursue litigation then litigation must be pursued.

If you really are an SA in the Disputes practice, you would know what the OP says is true. Opinions are often tailored to arrive at a pre-determined conclusion with a lot of creative thinking and interpretation to suit the client, to generate more work or both.

While this kind of creative thinking and strategy proposed in the opinions require merit and calibre, and could present an arguable case which your client would be willing to test, however, most arbitrators or judges would disagree with the opinion.

Okay. To claim that any place with bad placements can be among the best is to ignore reality, which you seem to be doing. There's nothing that NLUD has done that's worth celebrating. It started with good research initiatives but have completely lost it over the years and it is just another mediocre law school now with only locational advantage to boast of. Sure, it's a better bet than NUJS because of that advantage only.

Average JGLS student: Rich. IB school product. Chauffer-driven Merc. Girlfriend looks like a model. Holidays in Switzerland. Uncle/family friend is a tier 1 law firm partner who told him a job in the firm is waiting for him after graduation.

Average JGLS hater: Middle class. KV or regular CBSE school product. Travels by auto and bus. No gf. Holidays in Manali and feels guilty because his peers are already preparing for next semester's exams. Struggles to get good internships because grades/contacts not sufficient.

What's not to hate? 😅

Does anyone suggest a decent path for a B&F Associate (5-7 years PQE) to move abroad?

Would an LLM help and if yes which universities?

- Do they need a lot of publications even for experienced candidates?

- what kind of jobs can one get after that?

Or is there a way to get a job directly? If yes, then which countries?

Mr. Damodaran is a nice man, or so it seems. His team is definitely understaffed as his associates stay back quite late almost everyday. Culture wise the team is quite cut off from rest of their colleagues around and honestly the associates look rather tensed/cranky whenever I get to see them.

It's a good team to join if you are somebody who is fine with working in a relatively small team, with colleagues who are mostly reserved and keeps to themselves.

Caveat: I interned with one of the teams which sit in proximity to WD's team a couple of months back. Thought I'd share what I observed.

We have seen how the US Embassy is monitoring social media posts by visa applicants. Do HR people at law firms do the same?

For example, if one posts against politicians like Modi or Netanyahu? Or opposes projects by Adani and Ambani? Or professes support for Ambedkarite policies like private sector reservation? What if I criticise the judiciary and support the CJP?

Do HR people do such background checks? Is it advisable to lock one's social media account during placement season?

Hi, I graduated recently and spent around six months working in a T2/T3 M&A and PE/VC team. Unfortunately, the work environment was pretty toxic, and I experienced bullying with no scope of professional growth, which ultimately led me to leave the role.

During my time there, I was rarely assigned meaningful work, so I’m concerned about how my experience comes across on my CV and my chances of being shortlisted. I'm applying for A1 roles but my applications are being ghosted, even for roles wherein I know interviews are being handed out to my peers.

I would really appreciate any guidance on how to position my experience and approach my job search from here. Any leads on specific teams or firms that are currently hiring would be extremely helpful too!!

Senior lawyers charge meeting fees/ legal opinion fees/ call fees/ break fees so this is wrong, theres lots of ancilliary revenue, Surgeons cant be bilionaires too solely from profession, no service person can, You have to partake in large long term M&A/ cash out from an IPO for that.

I'm not giving the name because I don't want to promote it. But you guys know it. They are positioning the app as a run club and meet-up club for Gen Z lawyers, but on the Insta page they have preview pics of the app and dating is given as one of the options. One pic shows the profile of an attractive girl, along with her age and location. Classic clickbait. Also, the run club pics have like 95% guys lmao.

Maybe it's best to explore dating and companionship outside of such apps? Private clubs? AMEX card holder meet-ups?

C'mon Mods. You know better than this. It's a derogatory, and explicitly racially charged word and you would never countenance a similar word being used about someone who isn't white. It's like calling foreigners gwailoh in China or gaijin in Japan. I bet you wouldn't call Kian a "gora" to his face, if he ever came back to LI.

TOI report:

"The Delhi high court said on Monday the country cannot be permitted to be maligned internationally as it listed for hearing on Aug 27 a petition by UK-based journalist Amrit Wilson challenging the cancellation of her Overseas Citizen of India (OCI) card.Opposing any relief, the Central govt tendered a report in a sealed cover before Justice Purushaindra Kumar Kaurav and said there were inputs from intelligence agencies against Wilson, which had a bearing on the sovereignty of the nation.HC examined the report and said there were allegations the octogenarian petitioner had participated in anti-India activities. "We should not be such a tolerant state that we allow our own country to be criticised, maligned on an international platform. There are some IB reports against you. There are not only tweets. There are allegations that you participated in anti-India activities," the judge said.However, the counsel appearing for Wilson questioned the Centre's claim that the petitioner participated in anti-India activities and contended that the show-cause notice given to her was devoid of any details."

Birkbeck page of Dr Kalpana Wilson:

"My research has explored the previously under-researched question of racism and racialisation in international development. I have examined the relationships between race, capital, embodiment and resistance in transnational historical and contemporary contexts. I put forward an approach which underlines the materiality of race in development as well as its discursive aspects, combining elements of postcolonial, critical race and feminist theory with political economy. I explore themes including global population policies, reproductive justice, (anti-)fascism and racialised diasporas in development.

Secondly, building upon long-term research on rural labour movements in India, I have looked at contesting understandings of women’s agency, in the contexts of neoliberal development interventions, and social movements and collective organising. I have also examined emerging representations of women and adolescent girls in the Global South as hyper-industrious potential entrepreneurs and how this ‘new’ set of gendered and racialised representations is linked to an intensification and extension of women’s labour under neoliberal globalisation."

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/cant-let-india-be-maligned-delhi-hc-tells-journo-in-oci-card-case/articleshow/128438042.cms

https://www.livelaw.in/high-court/delhi-high-court/amrit-wilson-oci-card-cancellation-centre-stand-cant-malign-india-abroad-523297

https://lawbeat.in/amp/top-stories/cji-surya-kants-uk-lecture-sparks-controversy-as-birkbeck-professor-questions-hostility-to-dissent-within-india-1599402

https://www.bbk.ac.uk/our-staff/8009423/kalpana-wilson

Bhai ye wohi law firm hai jinhone Trafiksol ka SME IPO kia. That is an undeniable, publicly known fact. DRHP Khol ke dekh lo.

Asha Agarwal only gets 1-2 mainboards a year (that too part scope, not the full book) from smart horizon because Asha is close to Parth Shah, the owner of the merchant bank and genuinely would have no legal clients otherwise.

You won’t see them on league tables anymore. ▮▮▮

I firmly disagree. Legacy has delivered strong Mainboard mandates recently (EMS Ltd, Vibhor Steels, Xtranet, Mann Fleet) and is also active in the QIP space. Yes, T&S Law has delivered Glottis, Manika, and a few others - but it’s critical to look at the pipeline of mandates and the names that the firms are working with.

Where are the T&S Law cake cutting LinkedIn posts now? “14 mandates”, apparently. Now ▮▮▮ .

All the others have the mainboards. Wait for June 30 and you’ll see them knocked off their high perches lol.

Saw a reel by Arfa Khanum Sherwani of the Wire, where she is reporting that 20 million people support the CJP on Instagram, but only 1000 to 2000 turned up at Jantar Mantar. Also, several posts by girls are saying that there were a lot of chhapri guys in the crowd, who were just coming for timepass and staring at girls. 😞

I feel our Gen Z youth need better leadership. Why don’t NLU grads and students form a new political party? All the burning issues in our country right now are legal and constitutional in nature: caste, human rights of minorities, delimitation, free speech etc. In fact, the very origin of the CJP traces itself to a remark by the CJI. As the foremost legal minds, with an overwhelmingly secular and liberal bent, the NLU community is best placed to lead the party and explain these issues better on social media. The CJP is not doing this properly, sorry to say. This Abhijit Dipke guy seems kinda lame and cringe. He just picked up on one oral remark by the CJI, instead of trying to articulate a broad critic about the present situation of fundamental rights and social justice in India.

T1 NLU, starting my fourth year now. got extremely depressed back in my first year itself, Law school was a very bleak time for me- i dont remember a significant chunk of my law school career just tweaking between psychs and meds- and now that I have a medication routine which works, I am realising I have 10 backs which I need to clear. Now I am the anxiousest fuck out of all anxious fucks to have ever anxious fucked.

@Juniors: Genuinely rough it the fuck out no one gives a SHIT about health in this economy, and honestly why should they when there is always someone better and healthier and more knowledgeable to give work/money/referrals/help to

@Seniors: Can someone please advise me on what to do to recoup this- I have done some decent internships, a commercial law chamber, senior advocates doing crim law work, labour law (and in general theek thaak human rights work kiya hai)

but slowly realising all this doesnt matter if the batch rank is in the bloody 3 digits.