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People use standardised metrics, such as "infra", "placements", etc to weigh NLUs against each other, but these parameters don't give us the complete picture of life at a particular uni, especially NUJS.
Being effectively SJA run means complete freedom to do anything, anywhere- both on and off campus. I've noticed that noojies in particular are extremely passionate about their college, and do anything to defend it tooth and nail. NUJS has a distinct culture born out of a very unique collective experience. As a result, both students and alumni are very tied to this place, and even within law firms, NUJS alum form a clique amongst themselves. Based on the conversations I've had with both alum and students there, I've noticed that not only are they doing very well for themselves (job, intern, moot, publications), but have extremely fulfilling lives outside this. Qualitatively too, NUJS students seem to be much more street smart- they excel when they have to, and party the rest of the time.
In spite of all the problems the uni faces on a day-to-day basis (be it dogshit infra or non-existent admin), NUJS still consistently outperforms every other law-school in moots, ADRs, job opportunities, and even higher-education. People can hate NUJS all they want, but the place has something that no other law school has.
Don't get brainwashed by Modi and Rahul. Don't become simps for political parties. They only care about themselves.
ββ¦rising incomes and aspirations, but also the realisation that India just doesnβt offer the same quality of educationβ¦β or maybe theyβre just not able to crack the entrance?
This is because of a combination of factors: rising incomes and aspirations, but also the realisation that India just doesnβt offer the same quality of education and job opportunities (stagnant growth and an economy with zero innovation). Plus, India is simply too overpopulated and chaotic, and kids donβt want to live here. Certainly not after an IB school education, and when all your batchmates are headed abroad.
So what is going to happen down the line is that the privileged kids will all be law alumni of Columbia, NYU, Chicago, Duke, Oxbridge, LSE, KCL, UCL etc. Even those who come back to India and become Senior Advocates, or take over their fatherβs law firms. And if and when foreign law firms enter India, their entire workforce could also be a big club of nepo kids from IB schools who did their undergrad abroad.
Should NLUs foresee problem and make bridge courses more attractive? Or offer dual degrees?
When English firms could not face American competition and capital, these tiny Indian firms will wilt in one week of foreign firms being allowed. They are relishing anti-competitive landscape. But how long will they hold out? But problem is bigger. Most new firms coming up are by former folks at these Indian firms. They create replicas of Indian firms. While everyone wants Dollar fee but nobody wants American professionalism, egalitarianism, and individualism.
2. Ideally do them simultaneously but can wait until you hear back from the HR or a week post applying through the website.
3. Ideally not. If they revert back asking you to apply to the HR, maybe mention it then briefly that you already did and would be grateful if they could please forward it to them to help fast-track it. Maybe CC the HR in this mail as well.
4. Not entirely sure if this but should be the same for most of the big T1/2s.
There can also be situations where the WLB is good and the team is great, but they still do this. Even if a junior wants to stay, they may not necessarily have a problem with it, but they will give such a low appraisal that you eventually look at yourself, compare your salary with your peers at other law firms, and realise how much you are financially falling behind. At that point, you may want to leave anyway.
Also, has AI transformed this field in any manner? Any reductions in manually completing workload? Appreciate any insights from someone in the field!
Also, it's 2 from NLUJ, 2 NLS, 1 NALSAR, 1 MNLU-M
Literally just work harder
That said it is understandable why Cyril might dig his heels in. Even a nonβprofitable team can create reputational noise when it leaves, especially if the departure is framed in a way that suggests instability or internal dissatisfaction. He may also be signalling that partnerβlevel exits regardless of financial contribution must follow proper process and cannot be handled casually. In that sense, his stance is less about the teamβs economic value and more about maintaining institutional discipline and preventing a precedent that encourages opportunistic or poorlyβmanaged departures.
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If you are in an NLU - saraf does give out PPOs, you can even convert in a month. a friend got a PPO in one month (in the B&F team though.)
If not from an NLU - in CAM, GP seems to be the disputes hiring spearhead, her team does hire. Apart from her, Animesh gives PPOs too. Though CAM does have the ATP policy, but these 2 partners can be your best bet. DSK does hire excessively in disputes, but if you are trying to get in through a one-intern-convert-PPO thing, DSK does not do that. They would want you to intern for a fair bit of time and only hire if you are in your final year. They do give call backs though if you perform well, and give you an advantage in their Day-Z process. AZB lit is known for being highly concentrated and non-hiring. A girl from NLUJ did not convert her assessment so you know how bad it is. Tri is very specific. Please try and intern asap and get a call back. You 80% might convert. also pls dont go to B&P, very toxic. can try wadia if nothing works out, their hiring goes on well after graduation also afaik
(this is all a mumbai specific reply - im sorry I do not really have a fair idea of delhi scene, though ive heard from friends the firms in delhi are a bit lenient on the 4th/5th year hirings and not as strict as mumbai, where tier 1 firms mostly stop giving out PPOs after 8th sem. im a non-lit person so this is something ive heard from my disputes friends. hope this helps man and atb your profile is really nice :) never doubt and keep pushing!!! your sanity SHOULD not depend on these measly firms. a job is a job, not your life. )