"Social media makes you think that only people with 160+ IQ got H1B visas, and now that brainstrust will return to India. Actually most were basic tech support onshore and another lot were residents in hospitals. The really smart Indians have already been given citizenship."

- Aunindyo Chakravarty,

. Ex Senior Managing Editor, NDTV.

https://x.com/Aunindyo2023/status/1969395083964232153

Can you please tell me how is L.S Davar & Co. I got a 6-month internship there, but it is Unpaid. I want to pursue my career in IPR only. Location- Noida and Greater Noida. I study in an affiliated college of IPU. I am a final-year student. And any advice to get in Khurana & Khurana, Anand, Sujata, IP, Zeus IP will be appreciated. Any advice how to excel in this career path means a lot. i have about 4 months now to enhance my skills.

Not many claim "we have the Harvard of the East;" only the Nagarbhavi residents claim that, lol.

Also, if NLS is not on the list, then the list is flawed. Nagarbhavi residents, ex-residents, and their supporters will cancel the QS list as it doesn't recognise NLS as the No. 1 in Asia and one of the top three in the world. It's their way or the highway!

Pinning it here just to put the scoop on record. Not giving the names or tiers of the NLUs, but one VC is facing really serious allegations over award of tenders, while hostel conditions are very poor and mess food is contaminated.

Question is whether these protests could spread and become a pan-India #ReformNLUs movement?

Honestly, I’m quite surprised. He had a lot of supporters in the SJA in his tenure, many of whom would defend him on LI. They would suggest that his opponents were BJP supporters. What happened? Why have his supporters now abandoned him? Or am I misreading it? Was he always unpopular and supported only by a few?

Do I blame the media for needlessly concentrating on the recent SC order or did the SJA fail to provide supporting documents for the allegation of financial mismanagement? Shouldn't the latter be of equal if not more concern? Shouldn't it bother the SJA and the GB how this VC has dealt with SH and substance abuse complaints made by the students? Sure we feel for the Associate Professor. But she fought her battle and reached finality maybe not the quantum of solace that she desired. But why do someone else's hatchet job. Are we ready for the backlash and is the SJA really in the fight? Is the student community ready and committed to be present in full strength and prepared to face tough questioning by the EC? Because if the SJA did have damning evidence the VC would have been suspended if not sacked by now. Contrast this with 2018 eviction of PIB. Criticize the contested outcome, if you must. But acknowledge that SJA and the wider student community were prepared and checkmated PIB and his supporters. They didn't have to do this farcical all night gherao. What did that achieve?

Students need to be careful about info being fed by various faculty and staff factions . Te alliances are in a flux. While insider support and info ican be a force multiplier, students should only do what they can independently pursue and sustain. For example, if the faculty are only alleging but not providing documentation of serious misconduct by VC, then students need to be careful going fwd. Within the student community there are enough number of of cases that the VC allegedly hushed up. The trouble is that bringing those up may splinter the student body. But that is happening anyway... SJA isn't too keen to pursue things because it's own house is a mess and VC knows it.

How so only the SH issue is unduly getting highlighted. What about the financial chicanery? If SJA has details of the crores of deficit etc, it should make them public before the students and media. Else why would the GC, EC sit up? ▮▮▮. Actually he is doing a lot better than PIB. Maybe because he faces and emaciated and complicit SJA

Like Ishwar Bhat, the protests have come too late. Should have happened much earlier. But the protest must now be channelised properly to demand the following:

- Merit based appointment of the next VC. A well-qualified NLU alum like Sudhir needed.

- Appointment of eminent legal luminaries of national stature in the governing bodies (as used to happen in the Menon/Chimni/Singh years) instead of third-rate Trinamool Congress lackeys

Without these two reforms, the protests will be meaningless.

Author is a human rights lawyer and ex-Jindal faculty.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/blogs/toi-edit-page/why-scs-sexual-harassment-order-hurts-both-survivors-and-accused/

Indeed with your observations main problem with all corp lawyers is hating everyone, living lonely life with full of health problems including bad mental health coupled with obnoxious personallity with full of ego maniac energy viz a viz they are only center of attraction of whole world. People here assume that no one is better than anyone else as they are only individuals supposedly doing meaningful work in their life. Treating everyone ( including other profession workers) with condescension is their best ability

There was a comparison made even for lawyers who aren't HN Salve. Perhaps if you had some grey matter, you'd have read it.

Next, paid leave? Sir/Ma'am, in litigation, people are their own bosses. We don't work for someone. Its a profession, not a job that you clerks are making it one.

Next, what is performance in courtroom? Are you hearing yourself? You clerks don't contribute anything to law. Your work is clerical. Get out of that delusion.

Do you know how to read? The comparison was made only at the HC level. Take district court and lower courts, and yes, corp lawyers earn more. Why? Because they are so less in number and concentrated in a few places.

Now, at any HC, even an average 15-20 year's experienced lawyer would be outearning their corp law counterparts. That argument has been made before with proof, no point showcasing it again to someone who cannot read.

I don't have any longstanding beef, or any beef, otherwise, with corporate law. I do have beef with people who lack common sense. I see you have barked about a few topics, lemme point them out and reply to them:

1. Sort of work you corporate lawyers do

2. If litigation is better than corp law, why am I dragging corp law down

3. The earning aspect

4. Taking examples of only the top 1% of the 1%.

First, its sad that corporate lawyers are called lawyers, or even considered as so. Sure, you have gotten a law degree, so you are a lawyer. In fact, a CA who has a law degree would also be a lawyer. So would an engineer/IAS who has a law degeee.

Now, to answer your points:

1. Drafting is mostly a litigation centric-solicitor work. Falls under the domain of litigation. The rest of the works you mentioned, what you call strategising and whatever misnomers you used, its still clerical. Being a lawyer, you're sitting at a desk and doing nothing. Just bs work. That's all bs. You have no contribution to law. Just pure contribution to society.

3. On earnings, no doubt, for the first 10-15 years, someone in litigation will earn much lesser than their law firm counterpart. True. But after that, the graph of your income in litigation grows like anything. That does not happen in law firms. Further, all the money you make are for yourself. Not a firm or whatever where you don't even have a name. Tell me, for any firm that would be hiring in 100s a year, as we have seen before (i don't remember which firms it were), how many of those associates will make it big? Will make partner? Maybe 1 or 2. Or 10 max. Not all? Where will they go? Also, yes, firms brief seniors. If firms were so good, why would they not argue themselves? A few rare exceptions do exist, but why engage a senior otherwise? Lmao. Its not hating on law firms, its just pointing out truth.

2. Why bringing down corp law? Well, its facts. Not bringing something down. If you love to sit on a desk and do clerical work for 18 hours a day and make partner at top tier place with no name of yours on the wall? Who's stopping you. Go ahead. Not everyone has common sense.

4. A law firm, even a tier 4, if such a category exists, would have offices at places which have a HC? Compare the earnings of any litigation lawyer of 15-20 years experience and someone in a firm with the same. The litigation guy would be earning the same if not more. Guess what? In 5-10 years thereafter, the litigation lawyer would be outearning the law firm counterpart by a huge margin, maybe double or triple. That's how it is.

I have no issues w a first year associate outearning me, they can't, cuz i earn practically nothing. I won't make in 5-10 years what they're making today. But i'll be happy knowing that i haven't traded my soul for some bs clerical work at a place where i can be fired and have no independence, and will be a nobody. I'm also happy that i'll outearn that associate in 20 years, and that associate will come with briefs to me.

Corporate lawyers do earn, on average, more. Agreed. That's because there are so less corp lawyers, mainly concentrated in cities. This comparision also includes district and lower court lawyers who earn less. But why would anyone educated in a good place go there? We're talking at atleast the HC level. There, at your 40s, andfor sure in and after your 50s, corp lawyers earn peanuts compared to litigation lawyers.

Students have been mislead by certain faculty and staff factions to believe that this SC judgment with a googly stinger is done sort of silver bullet for their NKC problem. Students need to get better and more concrete evidence of misconduct, deliberate negligence, financial chicanery etc. Better to avoid those dangling bombastic allegations without relevant documents. Fight the good fight for our own reasons.

Heard that VC and his band of brothers actually had a good time in the VC office while students kept them boxed in but had no clue about next steps. So what now. Clearly he will not resign and EC will not do anything till they get a smoking gun. I guess it's dream on and not game on

Is it true that the VC was greeted with protests by both students and faculty before he went in for GC meeting today? What happened inside? And is the VC still holding on? He is a veteran of Hazra Law and that place has political student unions. He will play soft and hard. A stray protest here or there is just entertainment from him. Bad press doesn't bother him. Staying on as long as possible has pecuniary benefits, overt and otherwise.

The work is transactional work. Whether it is too notch-no. Is it bottom of the barrel crud-no. It is in-between, which is not bad. A young enthu associate gets to learn from such work. Hence the question becomes why join this team. Answer is- only if you have the following reasons (I) the team invests in your growth (not stab you in your back at the time of promotions and increments) , (II) the seniors are ready to mentor (and not just use the word 'mentoring' to lure the associate during interviews), (III) the team offers sufficient break between heavy transactions (not just a fake one day off on which also you are disturbed for everything else), (IV) the team provides opportunities to speak up and convey concerns (and not punish dissent), (V) the seniors and partners are nice and kind and speak to you as a professional/ human (and not obnoxious, sly and/or petty in their approach).

I think just ask around if this team falls in the category above. If not, don't consider. If yes, please do. I am sure you will get the answer easily if you track down and speak to, some of the people who left this team in last one year.

NFSU Law becomes the first law school to offer a course on Neuro Rights and Neuro Technology in collaboration with The Centre for Neurotechnology and Law. (https://www.neurotechlaw.com/).

A field that integrates Technology, Law, and Medicine. Other than NFSU, no one could have done this.

If your team is not ready to give you a leave for this - no point in joining them. These people are blood suckers. Will make interns do anything. So long as your moot is a good one, please focus on it. Make sure you complete your internship tasks as well and that you can completely focus on your moot. If they have an issue with you mooting, esp when its a good moot, your team has problems. Its a prelude to what will come later. Better not join them

You'd be doing that person a big big favor. Every partner I have ever worked with as an intern - be it a tier 1, 2, 3 and 4 firm has very happily extended a leave for me. The same partners have also recommended my for callbacks and then offered me a PPO. I will be very happily joining them next year and am very thankful that I have not gotten the likes of you as my senior.

OP - see how your partner and team reacts to it, if its not a good reaction just let it be. If they are kind enough to let you go the just respect your internship commitments enough to duly complete your assignments and pending work before you go. Best of Luck! Just don't hide it from your Partner and team cause if they later find out it will not be worth it.

Hi, I'm currently in a tier 1 law firm in the IDT and International Trade practice with a PQE of 5 years, and if this area of law actually excites you, you will really enjoy it. The tax landscape is always changing, and the issues that come up are interesting as hell. And it'll never die out, unlike what others on this thread are predicting. A lot of the tax compliance work may get automated, but no one can take advisory (especially transaction advisory) and litigation away from the best of us.

Since you're a law student and not a CA, I would suggest that you don't start at a Big 4 firm, where they are likely to put a bunch of compliance work on you, depending on the team. Look for firms that specialise in indirect tax laws for internships and for starting off your career. This will allow you to get some good training in the first couple of years. You can think of progressing to bigger firms after that, and they will be eager to hire you due to your speciality. That will also help with pay progression, so don't worry too much about that (unless you have major financial difficulties, in which case, you may have to consider your options).

I'm not sure where you'll get to practise in IDT, IBC and securities laws, but you may find litigation lawyers who do this kind of work and make your mark there.

As for the resume part, you can add a few certificate courses, webinars, etc. on tax laws, and any tax internship experience will be helpful. (Please make sure to enjoy law school as long as you are there, though, because work will be extremely challenging after you get out!)

It's a very competitive field, tbh. Especially because, except for firms specialising in tax, bigger firms have smaller tax teams. But if you do enjoy the work and put in the week to get good at it, you can excel. Please keep in mind, though, that I've seen a lot of people joining tax teams just to realise it's not for them (especially because it's a pretty niche area), and that might happen for you too. And that's okay too. The important thing is to figure out what you like and what you're good at, and go after it. :)

P.S. A lot of firms have offices in Bangalore, and I know a bunch of tax lawyers working out of these offices. Your locale doesn't have to change for you to be able to choose your fav area of law.

What are the scenes with vacancies these days at chambers/firms? I'm a '25 grad from a tier 2 NLU(doing great recently) with avg. CGPA and no internships post 2023. I've interned in IPR teams of some good firms, but I'm not receiving offers from anywhere, even after applying consistently.