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only advocacy (where there is direct human to human contact, say for example a bail hearing) and arbitration (or similar private legal negotiation) will be left. Even niche things like s/h agreements are better drafted by algos. Try out the lexis one its less powerful but equally scary.
Further is getting a call saying you are shortlisted and saying if the partner likes ur cv we will schedule an interview mean an interview will be scheduled.
As a student you are: (1) unlikely to understand what the day to day in each sub-set looks like; (2) unlikely to have a choice when you start out. When I started, we were fortunate if we were assigned to our city and practice area of choice.
I think corporate still presents the most opportunities and there is a lot of scope for growth, and for the smart ones who want to make partner, find a niche and become an expert over time by investing in your career and networking with industry professionals once you are PA level (which few people do) or become a service partner executing the endless deals of your firm's big clients. But law firms are inherently a pyramid scheme (max number of junior associates, smallest number of partners) so if you're 10 years into your career and not on partner-track, it's tough. In other fields, you're rising to upper management or decision making positions because you're an expert.
Khaitan just released a new report on mergers predicting a rise in M and A transactions for the second quarter of 2025
If this the state for M and A which is supposed to be a very lucrative practice, what about other subsets like employment/cap marks...or even disputes
Which area should an Associate join in a law firm then?
Itβs oversaturated. Everyoneβs competing to the bottom. Clients push back on even basic fees like theyβre haggling over roadside chaat. And honestly? Itβs exhausting. Here are a few real stories from my independent litigation practice in Delhi that sum it all up:
1. Section 34 petition for a βΉ30 crore arbitral award.
Big money at stake. Complex issues. Multiple hearings. I quoted βΉ7 lakhs all-inβwith instalments, mind you. Still got undercut by someone who quoted βΉ1 lakh. For the entire thing. No typo. One. Lakh.
2. Reply to a legal noticeβclientβs staring down a potential contempt case.
I quote βΉ15K, knowing Iβll be pulling an all-nighter, skipping the weekend, crafting it like a Supreme Court reply. Client says, βHow about βΉ4K?β I declined, obviously, and just gave him some pointers ex gratiaβso he could YOLO his way through the legal minefield.
3. Arbitration hearing (March 2025).
Client snaps at me for charging βΉ50K for a hearing that lasted 2+ hoursβand took two days of prep. His logic? βI canβt lose this case anyway, so why are you charging?β This, right after I got him interim relief. Delulu is truly the solulu.
4. This one hurt.
Spent two months drafting a detailed oppression & mismanagement petitionβevery comma placed with care. Client never filed it (strategy reasons), then straight-up ghosted on the fee. In another case where I got him exactly what he wanted, he randomly deducted 35% from the bill. No conversation, no rationale. Justβ¦ vibes.
Iβm not broke. Iβm not bitter. But letβs be realβthis is not sustainable.
The undercutting, the entitlement, the disrespect for labourβitβs wild.
I became a litigator to fight cases, not clients. Wtf!
I joined as a Capital Markets A0 and they've been telling me that I may be replaced anytime now. If M&A is gonna cut down then safe to say freshers will loose jobfaster than usual.
Request to mods to flag such posts because this creates unwanted panic and hysteria, the least of which someone at a A0 level needs.
https://m.economictimes.com/nri/work/mutual-recognition-pacts-between-india-uk-may-be-ready-in-36-months/articleshow/122912089.cms
Fixed: 36 LPA
Bonus: 12 LPA
I am in a high performing M&A team. So bonuses were good last year.
Basically, a 19 years old prankster made a fake email account in Xaviβs name and applied, and AIFF couldnβt wait to announce it to the whole world. Brilliant. If theyβd bothered to check first, they wouldnβt have ended up making such a joke of themselves.
You'll surely make a good lawyer buddy.
This will work out cheaper over the long run, and of course, better quality.
Yes they did offer a PPO IN WRITING IN MAIL yes, not just to not intern elsewhere, but a PPO, a Pre Placement Offer in clear terms of an offer to be made of me joining in XYZ date at this team when i submit the document and shouldnt intern elsewhere and have been selected. But in the same mail was asked to intern year long, but now they arent willing to confirm I have an internship or assigning work. Please let me know if I could be more clearer? I do not intend to mislead anyone with any sort of inference or conclusion to be made from my circumstance, I am willing to help anyone navigate a PPO process. But i am asking seniors to help me in mine>>
I sure hoped I knew this was the case when I first interned with them!. They are being so wierd right now with the placements about to commence and me missing out leaving me in a loop? If they want to retract the offer they should inform atleast no so I could apply elsewhere?
I am sorry if the person above felt scared because of me! This is probably something that firms dont do for bad PR and if it happened a lot I wouldnt have to create a thread as well. Wishing you the best at JSA! Do let me know if I could be of any help for the processes and interview system as it can be scary as well.
Thank you for the suggestion, but how can I simply turn up without permission and constant failure of any sort of communication from HR or the partners I reported to?
The partners kept assigning me work as part of the long term internship but have suddenly gone AWOL, this is the observation as it signals something has changed and not for good, and it troubles me a lot!
The partner I am doing a post ppo internship with are simply not responsive bro, what do I do now?
I CALLED them persistently and they always say the partner haven't informed anything and don't say anything further. Do you want me to just enter the mumbai office without any ground or permission? How do I go about that.
Thanks for following through btw really helps someone is concerned
It shifted earlier I cannot mention the time period why tf wud I lie and risk my repute and everything bro
Please share your PQE/Amount for the betterment of the community
I graduated from law school last year and spent almost a year applying for jobs, mustβve applied to around 5000 places, if not more. All I got in return were either no replies or offers for 5-10k exploitative litigation jobs or LPOs which I didnβt want to take up because I saw no growth there.
Right now, Iβm working as a compliance associate. Itβs night shift role, and I handle stuff like pre-employment background checks, so basically stuff completely unrelated to law. Iβve been here for nearly two months. Not only does night shift suck but I can already tell thereβs no real career growth in this. It feels uncertain cause our clients are from US.. so its a glorified process associate role. Every day I just feel stuck and wonder if this is all itβs ever going to be. Iβm not afraid of working or upskilling but I do feel lost. I donβt have any connections. I donβt come from money. I donβt have a niche. Iβve tried for long enough and now I donβt know where Iβm heading.
Is a legal career still possible for someone like me, whoβs had so many rejections and detours already? Or should I start looking in some other direction altogether? I donβt want to give up on law, but I also donβt want to spend the next few years barely surviving as im already in my mid twenties. The guilt of pursuing this degree hits harder, considering I pursued a three-year law course after graduating jobless from a BA course. Plus 1 year of diploma during my job-hunting phase. I've nothing to show for in the last 7-8 years. No govt job prep experience or other valid excuse, simply nothing at all. Relatives also mock and ridicule me for wasting my education. Needless to say, my mental health has also been in the gutter.
If anyoneβs been in a similar spot or has any honest advice, Iβd really appreciate hearing from you. Even if itβs not a solution and just a perspective.
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