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HNLU and NLIU are from the old boys club (just see the college in the inner circle of clat logo wink wink)
1) Graduate outcomes: What percentage of graduates from the last three batches have gotten jobs they are relatively pleased with within 6 months of graduating? This should be the first thing you consider. Honestly, you could live in AC rooms on a campus that has Olympic-size pools, equestrian sports, and a helipad-—what difference does it make to you? Is the university enriching itself or is it actually providing value to you?
2) Faculty quality and rigor—even if you don't have good graduate outcomes now, if you have decent faculty and a high standard for academic work, within the next five years your university can improve enough that you will be employable. And find your way in the law world eventually. Count the student-teacher ratio in faculty quality. How likely are you to be taught by faculty who can make a call and get you a job?
3) Peer quality-—Even if graduate outcomes are bad and faculty are bad and there's no rigor, will you be surrounded by enough driven people that will keep you on your toes and challenge you and will work with you so you leave school knowing the law and having some idea of how to navigate the real world?
This is literally all that matters. The city, size of the college, how wealthy the students are, sex ratio, moot court wins, hostel rooms, food—all of that doesn't count for anything really unless you have at least one of these other three. There are plenty of people in Delhi who go to colleges where they get none of these things—but they might get access to the big city, they might be wealthy, and they might even get good infrastructure—it doesn't matter at all—they don't get jobs, they don't advance in their careers, and eventually they can't hack it in the legal world. I've seen NLUs where they don't have these three criteria and they sell themselves on infrastructure or on one team recently winning one moot—infrastructure doesn't follow you once you leave the university, and one team winning a moot somewhere doesn't actually mean some good work is being done at the university that you can benefit from. It might simply be that the team is well-connected or fortunate. Besides, moots don't lead to jobs unless you win a big international one. Many private universities spend a lot on infrastructure up front because they know they will make the money back by charging exorbitant fees to parents who assume "big building/campus = serious education project." If you go to a university to visit and theyre selling you on infra- big red flag. Consider that youre paying for all of that and consider if the ROI is there.
It seems to me that people know so little about how higher education works, and parents and prospective students are so ill-prepared that they don't have the first idea what they're looking at and are clueless when they're being sold a bill of goods.
Big caveat: this answer assumes you want to be a lawyer and are middle class/unconnected. If you don't really care about being a lawyer, or your dad is already someone big who can assure you employment, go waste your money wherever you want; who even cares?
Placements? Shit
Safety of Delhi? Shit.
Environment? Shit, how is it up there?
Let's see, in the Mumbai Office transactions team, how many people, who are not partners currently have stuck around for more than 5 years?
in India, rather than those playing identity politics on the basis of region, language and caste.
I have been working with capital markets team in t-2 firm from last 10 months. I am planning on switching any fair idea salary I can expect.
https://www.deccanherald.com/business/economy/extreme-poverty-in-india-down-to-53-in-2022-23-world-bank-3575884
Is drug use common?
Is there too much pressure to get a date and make your relationship Insta official?
Do couples hook up outside campus after the prom?
Basically curious to know the similarities and dissimilarities we see with US proms in movies and shows!
- “Universities abroad are better and give more exposure.”
- “My son/daughter goes to an IB school and none of his/her friends are appearing for CLAT.”
- “We want our son/daughter to enjoy college life. College life in NLUs is too focused on grades and placements.”
- “Our son/daughter will not be able to mix with students from small towns and lower socio-economic backgrounds, and will not be able to stay in such accommodation. He/she has not been brought up that way”
- “Our son/daughter doesn’t want to study law. We have also encouraged him/her to study STEM or finance abroad, as there are more opportunities globally.”
- “We want our son/daughter to do the Jindal-Cornell LLB-JD.”
- “Our son/daughter can go to Ashoka and do a law degree abroad after that.”
Thoughts on this? I’m sure you guys must have also come across such cases?
However, I have chronic back pain due to which I am unable to sit continuously for more than 1 hour. But I can walk all day long and manage long of hours of work by altering between sitting and standing with some walking breaks.
I was thinking litigation as an option due to better remuneration in long term and more flexibility - like taking files home to read after court hours. (These are just my assumptions)
I have an interest in law and there is an intuition that my reading and reasoning skills can help me do well here. But I don't have much idea about the kind of physical demands of the litigation job.
Kindly advice should I consider law, specifically litigation as a career? Feel free to advice any other careers in law which are more suitable for persons with chronic pain like me.
I don't want to weary you, but perhaps a bit of my story will be helpful for you (especially as regards social skill building). One factor that may make it less helpful for you is that the social mobility issues caused by my disability were partially offset by the fact that I come from a privileged background: I attended an independent school (and therefore was educated among people whose backgrounds were like my own) and I come from the sort of family where somebody without (at the very least) an undergraduate degree and an MBA is considered functionally illiterate. Nevertheless, I especially know about the insecurity that comes out of not having friends. I had people whom I considered as 'friends' until about fifth class in school, but after we (that is to say, me and my school contemporaries) turned 11 - always a dangerous age - things began to change. Boys became interested in going out with girls on an ongoing and serious basis and had success in this regard while I didn't; girls became interested in going out with boys, but not with me; people spoke of viewing porn websites while I read Churchill and William L. Shirer; many people engaged in sporting pursutes as extracurricular activities in their spare time while I attempted to learn the works of Bach, Chopin and Mozart by ear as part of my years-long (and ongoing) efforts to learn and play the piano (facilities for blind people like me to learn Braille music in India are hard to come by, and low quality where available); even in music, our tastes were different, for where they listened to heavy metal, I always preferred something like a Strauss Waltz or other classical orchestral music such as concertos (the Blue Danube and Roses from the South have been particular favourites of mine as waltzes, and Beethoven's Violin Concerto in D Major as well)... you get the idea. I was a bit of a weirdo; add that to the COVID-19 isolation period, so come time to transition into higher education, I had some stuff going for me when starting university, but not social skills. When I started at university, I noticed that my contemporaries were similarly placed (if not exactly in the same situation): some were ahead (or behind, as the case may be) in some areas, where others were not. People worked on things they were behind in (while also keeping up their pre-existing strengths and pushing themselves to do new things and gain new ones) as part of a multi-factor learning process. I, for example, worked on various atypical aspects in my behaviour and what felt to me like overwhelming social anxiety because of the many years of having no friends, and now have a circle of friends whom, even if I called at 3 in the morning for whatever reason (not that I would), would give me whatever help/advice needed or do whatever could be done in such an extraordinary situation.
I don't know about me, but the vast (if not the overwhelming) majority of my university contemporaries graduated with their law degrees, more thoughtful, reflective, empathetic, kind people; more willing to try new things and engage with new arguments and perspectives. This is at least in part due to the fact that while at university, I came into contact on a much larger scale with people from economically disadvantaged and/or in other ways marginalised backgrounds. If nothing else, a university law degree should give you those qualities (if you make the most of the experience by taking advantage of opportunities, initially by trying a bit of many things, and later being more discriminating in what you choose to take part in and what you choose to give a miss).
I'm OP of the rant post. I just wanted to say- don't make decisions based on what I said. My experience is just one experience out of sea of experiences. Does not mean you won't do well or wouldn't develop the so called 'people skills' while at university. All I will say is this:- Make an informed decision and be cent percent sure that this is what you want, also take into account that despite performing well and giving your best, you may not get the rewards of your labour, atleast not immediately. If your sole goal is to make good money immediately and decent progression, opt for other alternatives. If you are genuinely passionate about the law and don't have financial constraints go ahead. Best of luck! Don't let my experience colour your vision.
(Please give genuine answers only; it would help me get a clear picture) Thank you!
A grown man btw
Dropping out could be the worst mistake you make because its easier to promise yourself of the future than to work on it. Finally if you're worried about ppl judging your rank/casteism then i'll be honest it will be there especially in your first semester after that what you do in college will define you. Wont delude you by saying nobody would care at all but yeah you have to let your grades/cv speak for you and your rank
Have you seen the placement of both the nlus last year? Times better than Jindal. And they cost much less. Better crowd cause you actually require merit to get there.