why would anyone hire you if you can only rely on AI for your work? Why hire ten people to draft contracts and draft notes and draft submissions to courts and governmental bodies when companies can buy AI that does it for them?

Do you think anyone will hire an accountant or an economist or a statistician or a physicist or an engineer who cannot do long division without a calculator?

Do you think anyone will hire a musician who cannot play instruments and or write songs and can only recycle what others have done through an AI program?

Or doctors who cannot diagnose or treat without running to AI?

I get that students are lazy- but when you cheat this way- youre only cheating yourself out of an education. Suit is ridiculous, should be thrown out of court.

I have been facing this issue for quite some time now and feel that it's high time I introspect and take some careful steps before I end up in further hot water. My present condition is -

1. Having graduated from a tier-3 college, first gen lawyer have struggled to make inroads in the corp. law scene. SO far, have around 1.5 years of PQE in boutique law firms but going ahead is seriously a tsk given my non-nlu credentials in a few job switches in the past.

2. I come from a middle class family, living in a tier 3 city so litigation is something I cannot look up to , obviously due to financial constraints as well as locational disadvantage.

3. Following from point no.2, doing foreign LLM or any masters degree would not be feasible for me as I know that it will only marginally increase my chances of getting a good job later on. Further, I cannot leave working on and earning as I have financial burdens over me as well.

What should I ideally do to in this predicament. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

I think their view is along the "we paid for this/got admitted to this [NLS education], so we should get this mentorship regardless". They don't realise that academics may not necessarily view just being admitted to read law at university as being evidence enough of somebody's intelligence and that they might actually expect extra work from people before time is given up. I don't know why this seems like a difficult concept to grasp, after all, law students the world over, from Singapore to England, France to Canada, the U.S. to Australia, Hong Kong to New Zealand, seem to have grasped it without all that much headache?

NLS is merely addressing a symptom, which is its own creation.

First, tutorials are needed BECAUSE it has a humongous batch size. Tutorials are not required if batch sizes are smaller (say around 40ish).

Second, generally, tutorials are usually conducted by new Assistant Professors or Ph.D. students, not by senior faculty.

There is no need to eulogize anyone for trying to solve a problem that is an outcome of its own policies.

Once again, Sudhir shows how he is way ahead of other VCs and how NLSIU is war ahead of other NLUs. But note that it’s only possible to do this because he has recruited excellent faculty. At other NLUs, the students know more than the teachers and the students should be conducting tutorials for faculty!

Y'all are only on here whinging about how you dont get mentorship and face time with professors- and when something is done to help you get closer supervision and help you form those relationships you complain. What do you want? You want AKT or MS or whoever to hang out in your dorms?

I am from the 2025 batch (Non-NLU) and I have received a PPO in July from a Tier-1 law firm in the Projects Team.

I thought that after getting a PPO I will chill, party hard and socialise with people around but it has been three months and I am bored and I feel I am getting rusty.

Since I will be joining the firm next year around July/ August (2025), I want you all to suggest something to pursue career wise. I am done with travelling and partying and I want to utilise my time effectively to further strengthen my career prospects.

I don’t want to do CS. Thinking of CFA but does it make sense? Please suggest me something.

Guys from 2025 batch, what are your plans for the free time?

Not true. UPSC and judiciary are almost equally popular, but judiciary aspirants get split over multiple states. More than 10+ graduates (BALLB) are in Delhi Judiciary from NLUD - a lot more appear for the exam, these are the ones who have managed to clear it. if you include LLM, then definitely 20+.

Hi everyone, I am an associate at a tier-1 in Mumbai. It's been more than two years in this profession and job, and life has not gotten much better. In the initial few months, I wanted to quit right away but somehow I ended up staying and am still stuck in this job. I never had many lawyer friends to begin with, and the ones I did have drifted away during the pandemic. Having no lawyer peers, except for my colleagues, I don't have many people in my life who relate to my struggles. I am not able to give much time to my family or socialize with my friends except for a some weekends. Even on the weekends, I am anticipating new work or stressing over the pending assignment or, if free, I am mentally exhausted from the week's grind.

I do get days and weeks off but sometimes without prior notice I am still expected to work on my days off. This uncertainty and lack of control over my time has made it very difficult to freely enjoy my time off. Having to carry a laptop everywhere I go like I am the busiest person in the world and still making peanuts as compared to other people working these many hours in other jobs is very disheartening. Further, I have had to opt put of every vacation my friends had planned for the past two years because either I am never free when they are or I can never avail holidays on a short notice. In short, my chill time is severely limited, most of the times because of my own mindset.

While I do understand that this job pays for my time and not my skills per se, its very depressing for 25 year old wanting to enjoy his/her youth. My body already feels like a 30 year old and my energy levels are moderately low. I worked very hard like my other colleagues to reach where I am, but having a life like this makes me wonder if I can ever have a good life. I might come across as naive and even entitled for starting this conversation and, more importantly, wanting a good life just because I worked hard. I understand that most of us working this job work really hard and face similar challenges in balancing work and life, so my problems are not extraordinary. The question I really want to ask, even if naively so, is does life ever get better? Will quitting my job help me?

Thank you.

Agree completely with the statement that Indus was building a great firm, and lost the plot completely - the management needs to introspect and take steps to ensure that they are not in a rebuilding phase every few years. In projects, Avirup left, and Arun and Deepak stepped in/stepped up to build a good practice – now they are leaving, and Indus is back to where it began. Same story in Mumbai.

The ‘replacements’ are not a scratch on the people and their teams that were there. This is a beginning but it’s going to take a very long time. The management hopefully is introspecting on how they are in this position and not make the same mistakes. The CMS tie up is a bandaid but not the cure.

It is not only Manan and Avik. Several other stellar partners like Manish, Ravi Kumar, Anindya and Arun left recently. Indus has to get replacements for all these rainmakers with partners with books. Also, not too many partners are now in the firm who are great rainmakers. So let's wait and watch.

What is the average salary for an Assistant Professor at NLSIU, particularly at a mid-level? I understand that Assistant Professors are placed at Pay Level 10, with a basic pay range of ₹57,700 to ₹1,82,400 per month, but I’m looking for ballpark figures. Given that I have 5 years of PQE, an LLM degree, and significant research experience, what might I expect in terms of total monthly remuneration, including allowances?

Mod, before putting the contested tag on every post, learn to practice a little diligence yourself. Here's what Debroy himself had admitted.

https://www.theweek.in/theweek/cover/2022/05/20/i-have-been-walking-around-with-a-letter-of-resignation-says-bibek-debroy.html

It clearly mentions the Cambridge event and his own criticism of his actions.

This email was sent today to everyone at Jindal today by Prof R Sudarshan. The mail debunks the lies being spread by both wokes and BJP supporters (the former claiming that Prof Debroy failed his PhD and the latter claiming that Sonia Gandhi sacked him after he praised Gujarat).

Bibek, Ratna, and I have been friends since our Cambridge days 1977-1982. I accompanied Bibek to Clare College when he had his PhD viva. Ravi Kanbur, an external examiner from Oxford, asked Bibek to add a chapter to his thesis on information theory to illustrate its application to something more recognisably economics, in addition to examples of dowry market equilibrium conditions in India, information implications of Mao’s policy of making intellectuals help farmers to build furnaces, and another similar esoteric example I can’t remember.

Bibek, whose thesis had been praised by his supervisor, the great Frank Hahn, did not think Kanbur was fit to examine it. He opted for an MSc and refused revision. He was in a class of his own, with a fantastic breadth of eclectic interests. I worked closely with him from 1993 to 1998 on a UNDP-supported project. The $1 million project I managed was relatively large, so we created an acronym for a large project: Legal Adjustments and Reforms for a Globalising Economy (LARGE). After he completed that project, Bibek joined the Rajiv Gandhi Institute of Contemporary Studies at Manmohan Singh's prompting. Bibek and I organised inter-school debates, starting with NCR Delhi, then nationally and with South Asian entrants, in memory of Mahbub ul Haq. Bibek wrote a report on states that put Gujarat at the top of India’s states on the dimension of ‘ease of doing business’.

When the Chief Minister of Gujarat gloated about it, many Congress netas (but not Sonia Gandhi, as he told me then) were unhappy with him. Bibek felt that he had to quit. He joined the PHD Chamber of Commerce, which was lucky for him. There, he met Suparna. She transformed a somewhat self-effacing and eccentric person into someone worthy of joining the Delhi Durbar. Prime Minister Modi respected him as a Raja Rishi for his knowledge of the Itihasas, Vedas, and Puranas. I don’t think the PM took Bibek’s advice on economic policies, instead of expecting him to defend some bad ones. Individuals like Bibek get better with age, like whisky, wine and temple idols. That’s why it is such a loss to so many that he passed away so soon. I cherish fond memories of the time I could spend with him (much less after he teamed up with the PM). Bibek was inspiring, educative, and provoking to everyone who knew him. The grief of each of us is unique.

It doesn’t. Had a batch rank of 35 from a Non-NLU and was the first one in my batch to get a PPO from a T-1 law form this July.

Although my grades were average, my mooting was exceptional. Won really reputed moots and had decent publications. More than day, my team was in-general very impressed of my candidature based on my day to day interaction.

Hence, my whole team pushed for my PPO.

Am not into a law firm but an experienced in-houser.

Please rethink about criminal litigation - if for nothing else than the single reason that our Court's physical infrastructure is extremely pathetic for females. Most Courts don't even have clean wash-rooms (& am guessing that female wash-rooms are as bad as men's).

Salary and power-structures - others here have already commented well.

White collar crime/ POSH/ advisory may be a more appropriate and financially rewarding route.

Second year is too early to know what you like. Everyone likes crim at first but after your first internship you may decide it is not for you. See if you can intern with the litigation team of a major firm. That way you are in touch with litigation but have the security of a salary. Your allies will be your classmates, seniors and people who work with you. A lot less people have contacts than you think. Try to make a good impression and be a decent human being. Keep an eye out for other decent human beings who will support you and speak up for you. This starts from the internship.

Creating this thread:

https://www.reddit.com/r/notlegallyindia/s/yLjLLUFziw

Please be candid but mindful that you dont spready any baseless rumours.