I have an upcoming internship at CAM, Mumbai capmarks team.

Can anyone let me know:

1. How do I maximise my chances of getting a PPO/callback?

2. Is the team lazy in offering callbacks? Is it possible to get it in the next 2 months of the first internship getting over?

3. In general, how open is the team in offering PPOs and what all do they expect?

I got the first test link on Monday. Received second test link on next Monday (appeared on the same day). Hoping for the result to be declared on Monday.

HR said me they collate the result at the end of every weekend. Because we get time of 5 days to appear for the test.

Hopefully Monday 🤞

If you're from Ranchi, then look no further and join the chambers of Mr Indrajit sinha. Mr sinha is the son of Justice S.B Sinha. And Mr Sinha is by far one of the best criminal lawyers this nation has seen. I had the opportunity to assist him in one case and I saw his brilliance. I have practised at SC and Delhi Hc and without a doubt i can say he's much better than the likes of Siddharth Dave or Gopal Sankarnarayan. He's at the level of Shyam Divan, I would say. It's a pity he's practising at Ranchi Hc. Join him. He's extremely generous with pay and his juniors who are with him for some time make around 2.5 lakh to 3 lakhs monthly. He's a rare gem.

I was not able to land a good job for months ,so in my desperateness I consulted a famous edu. agency to get me an admission abroad even though I really did not want to study.

I received an offer from a college in Europe for their MSc program (1 year course 13000 EUR + 500 EUR deposit)last month for the January 2025 intake. I paid the deposit initially and paid the entire fees (which is required for the visa).

But then I landed a job that I liked.

So I emailed the college saying:

Due to some unforeseen circumstances that lead to personal commitments I have to cancel my admission , I wish to withdraw my admission to the master's program.I kindly request you to initiate the refund process of the course fees and also request your full cooperation. The uni rep in the admission team straight out replied that the fees is non refundable.

Now these are their terms and conditions for fees and cancellation:

# 5. Fees and Payment:

5.1 In consideration of the provision of the Services by the College (and, where applicable, __ Services), the Student will pay the fees set out in the Offer Letter at the applicable time. The Student will thereafter be liable to pay the College any other fees due to the College from time to time with respect to the Programme of which the Student will be given notice.

5.2 Fees will become due for payment on the date set out in the Offer Letter or on any other date specified by the College.

5.3 Where the duration of the Course is for more than one academic year or the Student elects to repeat the academic year, fees will be due to the College prior to the commencement of the academic year.

5.4 Fees are subject to change each academic year.

5.5 Should the Student pay by way of cheque and the cheque is subsequently dishonoured, the Student will be liable to pay the College a €25 fee to cover administrative and bank charges.

5.6 If the Student does not make any payment due to the College or ___ Services by the date specified, the College or __ Services may charge interest to the Student on the overdue amount at the rate of 7% a year above the European Central Bank rate. This interest will accrue on a daily basis from the due date until the date of actual payment of the overdue amount, whether before or after judgment. The Student must pay the College or __ Services interest together with the overdue amount.

5.7 Subject to clause 5.7.4, if a student visa application has been refused, then the amounts paid, including deposits and unutilised fees, will be refunded less an administration charge of €100 (plus any courier and transfer charges) on production of the following documents:

5.7.1 original copy of the visa refusal letter;

5.7.2 copy of the Student’s passport showing both the photograph and signature; and

5.7.3 where the payer was not the Student, an original authority letter from the Student authorising the repayment to the payer.

5.7.4 Section 5.7 applies only to visa applications made outside EU and does not apply to International Students already resident in EU who are applying for renewal visas. For International Students already resident in EU, fees will not be refunded under any circumstances after commencement of the course. Where a visa is required to be renewed during a College Programme of study, it is the responsibility of the Student to confirm with the relevant authorities that the renewal application will be approved.

# 6. Cancellation and Deferral:

6.1 The Student may (unless studying on a student visa) no later than two weeks prior to the commencement of the Programme cancel his or her acceptance by providing the College with written notice. If the Student so cancels their study, the Student’s liability to the College will be limited to payment to the College of a cancellation fee of €100 which may be deducted from any applicable refund. Any refund made by the College will be made to the original payer. Full course fees will be payable if less than two weeks’ notice is given and no refund will be made in such circumstances. Refunds are not available of any amounts paid for study materials, where the materials have been supplied to the Student.

6.2 The Student may (unless studying on a student visa) defer enrolment in the Programme for one academic year, provided the College receives written notice at least two weeks prior to the Programme commencement date (the “Date of Deferment”) and the Student pays a €50 administrative fee. The fees or any deposit paid by the Student will not be refunded but will be carried forward to the following academic year. Should the College fees change between the Date of Deferment and the date of commencement of the following academic year the Student will be liable to the College for any additional amount due and must pay it before the commencement of such academic year.

6.3 Should the Student defer enrolment in the Programme as per Condition 6.2 and should the Programme not be continued by the College such following academic year, the College’s liability to the Student will be limited to a refund of the applicable fees paid by the Student for the Programme less the €50 administrative fee referred to above.

6.4 If the legally binding contract formed with the Student is not made in person with the Student at the College’s premises (for example by exchange of e-mails), the Student shall have the right to cancel the contract if the Student gives notice of cancellation to the College within the fourteen calendar day period beginning on the day following the day on which the College received the Student’s Offer/Acceptance Form and/or payment of any fees. If a Student exercises his or her right to cancel during this fourteen day period, he or she will receive a full refund of all amounts already paid by the Student less the cost of any services already performed by the College (or, where applicable __ Services) before the end of the fourteen day period. Specifically, where the Student has received any books or other materials as part of the Services, the Student must return and bear the cost of returning the books and materials to the following address:

PS: I recieved the offer on September 6th. But I paid the deposit a few days before that and I paid half the fees on october 4th and half on oct 7 2024 all via the education consultancy. I sent the cancellation mail yesterday and they said its non refundable. I explained in my reply mail that I am informing you well in advance before the commencement of the course in January 2025,admissions have yet not been closed for the program and none of the visa processing has been started yet. Now I am awaiting their reply.

Please can someone suggest a way out? The amount is not small that its negligible.

First learn how to speak German, have funds ready (it is quite an expensive country to live in), be ready to be approached (even in big cities) regularly by fuckwits that want to convert you to Christianity (largely old white men and more rarely, white women), remember that racial discrimination laws in Germany are not very robust, leaving you quite vulnerable to prejudice in the housing rental market (with advertisements such as "Only German and Austrian passport holders for House X" still being quite okay). Now considering all this, think again about whether you still want to headline your thread "Great news!!!".

Firstly congrats on getting considered for interviews,

A rejection is not usually on you, it could be not having vacancies or last minute changes. Law firm HR arent exactly very skilled at their jobs, and partners dont have time for this.

1. Appearance - You must make a good first impression. Groom yourself, hairstyle, lighting, dressing before the interview. Look at yourself in the camera and blur the backgrounds.

2. CV- You must be completely adept in interpreting each phrase in your CV, as if those assignments were done yesterday.

3. - Prepare standard HR questions

4. Speak clearly in the mic, and make sure the internet connection is good. Speak at a faster tone than usual and dont just read off of somewhere, make good expressions.

5. Be proficient in civil + criminal litigation contextual + ADR + recent news. Most general concepts should in at the tip of your fingers.

6. Learn to faff - You should lie about some skills but properly and without coming off as a liar

7. Always stress why you are an asset and how you improved on your weaknesses, this question is always asked, prepare beforehand with instances etc.

8. Provide references

9. Ask for assessment internships at the end of interviews if you feel they are not too interested in hiring

10. Always ask questions in the end of the interview so you seem interested. But not icky ones like work life balance.

11. Why corporate law - I hope you have an interesting answer for this.

12. Follow up with the HR and Partner after 24 hours of the interview or Monday (if Friday). Then after a week. Then after 2. Then take the hint.

13. Learn the art of following up politely after an interview. Dont irritate people and get blacklisted. Always ask for feedback and how you can improvise in the future. I know people getting second interviews on this basis.

14. Do NOT appear introverted or shy and stumble on words, that is a huge red flag in this profession. Just say you arent sure and move on.

15. Try to prolong the interview as much as you can and politely. I dont mean you ask the HR to do it, you should answer in details with reasons, precedents, examples, experiences, references

16. Always stress on drafting experience + speaking in courts.

17. Your English should be on point.

18. I hope you already know - You should research the partner + firm + deals recently in detail, and a LOT MUCH. You should reference that in your answers so they know you're exclusively interested with them.

19. These answers should be quick - Do you have other interviews? Ans- No. Do you have other internships lines up? Ans- No. Do you intend to pursue future education? Ans. No. Does working long hours bother you? Ans- No. Were you offered assessments elsewhere/ have you applied elsewhere?. Ans - No. Location issues?. Ans- No. Trainee Role/assessment before hiring? Ans. Sure

20. Dont negotiate salary etc, at the fresher level. Not that they would ask, but dont bring that topic to the table.

(Once you have a confirmation, you can speak to the HR and get things sorted later, not in front of the partner)

llm does not aid in career except for two narrow scenarios

a) you are on a stable career path at a T1 and you wish to take a break but also make it to the next rung, a foreign llm would be suitable

b) you want to join academia

except for the above two the only other further narrower avenue would be to shift to another jurisdiction, which has been discussed many times in this forum (prev work ex, suitable jursidiction, prior contact with future workplace)

llm does not in any way help with law practice in India unless you have a legacy

Next 10 days are packed with an Indian client wanting us to work through this weekend and all of the next week. This is after they went AWOL a few months ago on this matter and now they want everything in place by Diwali. Partner has not only not objected to this timeline but also gone on leave and left it to the chhotus to deal with it. Not to mention that the partner is aware that this timeline is not feasible and, even if we work non-stop through diwali, its going to take 2 more weeks to tie everything up so we’re basically placating the client’s anxiety.

They won't do it trust me. All these people you see calling their firms cheap ass and not giving them gifts, pay them 30LPA + and these guys dont even pay many taxes. Obviously bonuses are tied to performance, thats the point idk what they're on. They should consider moving to smaller firms or litigation and know what cheap means.

OP here - I hear you and that's the approach I took however, unlike my opposite counsel I do not work at a law firm. The opposite counsel was trying to use their other clients who had agreed on similar terms and trying to cut short negotiation relying on those instances but couldn't outrightlty say that since they can't disclose other clients infront of current client. They scheduled a call without sending comments and just started shouting when I tried digging deeper into their proposals and pointed out adverse effect on my employer due to such proposals. Now, I am new to the organisation and do not have much face with my internal client. Please advise if I went wrong somewhere.

Aree bhai, don't bend this much have an aggressive but diplomatic approach to these things. Don't grt threatened by hearing them shouting and screaming just ask the rationale or law behind the change suggested. If they start shouting or doing anything other than answering your question, categorically say "We will not be able to accept this change unless there is a clear reason" and move to next point.

These tactics are quite often especially when you are a junior and the opposite counsel is senior to you. Happened with me when I was an A1 and opposite counsel was their practice head. I didn't budge and later didn't accept the changes as well. However, I reported this immediately to my partner that this has happened on the call. He asked me if I shouted back, I said no and then he said "Don't worry, I will take care of it".

I went on a negotiation call sometime back with counterparty counsel. This discussion was happening after one round of document review. Opposite counsel had made many changes without providing any rationale and so a request was made through comments to ask them to substantiate with reasons for their changes. When the lawyer got on call they started shouting and made situation acrimonial from the very beginning and this made me quite uncomfortable. As their changes were not supported with any rationale, I tried asking them reasons for their changes. They replied in a snarky and very angry manner. I remained composed and didn't respond in the same manner as them but still continued providing rebuttals for their reasons. I thought this to be correct approach since I would require to understand their perspective and since we were on call, it seemed like a good opportunity to reduce back and forth on comments. Rhe opposite counsel did not take nicely to my counter arguments and started shouting. I told them I will like to move on to next point since we are not able to conclude. The meeting did not lead anywhere. Soon after the meeting, the opposite lawyer contacted my client and told them they don't wish to negotiate against me. Please my senior industry colleagues, guide me as to where I went wrong and how could I avoid this situation in future?

1. Connect with alumnus at T1 law firms in India and abroad. They have the pull and can guide.

2. If you want to work with Magic Circle/ biglaw kinda firms, it's really difficult as an Indian tbh. They exclusively offer training roles to T1 law schools and laters are mostly from T1 firms + experiences. If suggest you work in Indian firms and make it to T1s and then lateral.

3. You could consider working for smaller law firms abroad. Simply mail and call HRs. Open websites etc. But you should have funds ready for visa etc.

I am a CS fnalist and willing to work in capital markets field rathern than normal work of cs.

So i am not willing to work in law firm for long time so is it good option to get into capital markets team in law firm and then swith to merchant banks as a cs i have more chance to get into it ?