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They were penguins on heat in their previous lives.
Thandi thandi pawan chale, tan man mein haaye aag lage.
We negotiate like hell when its time to get our clients the best deal possible but never look at the deal we ourselves have with the firm lmao.
It really give a short boost to motivation to persuade litigantion
7L+ pm today (all inclusive) at a T1.
I humbly rejected the offer, and went on to have a frank conversation with the person, explaining them my financial necessities and need to build a reputation before I could join a smaller firm. They understood and wished me well, in addition to suggesting me places I could intern with, in my fourth year. I went on to give my all in various subsequent internships, and built on the same for references and offers.
I ended up with 5 job offers, including a bunch of T1s, without even sitting for Day Zero. I chose a team & partner that prioritise providing extensive mentorship at a higher paying T1 firm, and am in general much more satisfied with my work life than my topper friends who blindly went to the T1 firms on Day Zero and got saddled up to partners they don't like.
So, if you're in law school and its too late to do something about your grades — that's okay; you can still get good jobs! Remember, all someone's looking for while offering a job is a person who can be of practical help to their work profile. Good academics are used as a proxy to assume your discipline & bare minimal knowledge necessary to meet the targets your boss will want you to meet. If you can demonstrate that you'll be of effective & practical help regardless, then the potential employers won't care about such proxies.
1 YOE - 12,000
3 YOE - 15,000
4 YOE - 20,000
5 YOE - 30,000
6 YOE - 10,000 (Corona)
Started Independent practice
7 YOE- 3,00,000/-
8 YOE - 5,00,000/-
The risks and the struggles are all worth it. Extraordinary work life balance. No drama. Absolute confidence.
Another partner drives a Land Rover, and the equity partner comes in a Honda City. The equity partner is far more respected.
It really does not matter what car you drive, unless you decide to be a dick about it! ✨
3.5 x 3 = 10.5 - 3 Houses
5 cr for Education and wedding
1 cr Buffer
Total is 16.5 cr. Without even taking into account cost of interest income for buying 3 houses. And if somebody is starting out today, you can't expect house in Santa Cruz to stay at 3.5 cr by the time they acquire enough money to buy 3 of those!
And do you mean 1.5 L rent per each 3BHK?
- 3 flats x 3.5cr = 10.5 cr
- 5 cr for kids education
- 14 crores rest
- 1 crore emergency buffer
Total = 30.5 crores!
Not entirely sure why you are slating his numbers in that case.
Believe me, I have had experience of a British law school, and there's no 'American law school' pathway about this. That place is full of admins, a number of whom don't need to be there. I think Sudhir's way of thinking at this point (because of the way law schools in other countries have done it) is that if Britain and U.S. law schools have made it in the competition for the international rankings to where they are now (whether that competition is worth it is a very important debate, but too large to be within the scope of this discussion), then the best in India should also go down that pathway.
At the same time, just two points about faculty workload/administrators:
1. I am a bit surprised, honestly, that you would suggest an SWO kind of a job for a faculty. Wouldn't it be better for someone who has received perhaps training in mental health crisis management or mediation or whatever to do that job? It just seems like an unnecessary addition to the workload to me. Faculty's job is to teach students and contribute to the knowledge in their field by producing original research. It just looks like a weird thing to have in the job description. Seems to me like it would reduce the faculty's ability to do all parts of their job properly. I would also say that as things become more equitable with, for example, more disabled students accessing higher education than ever before, you need to respond appropriately with staff who are trained and experienced in handling their adjustments. A professor would know about equality law, maybe, but would she be able to read a Specific Learning Difficulty diagnosis (or have the bandwidth/scope to assist a student through the minefield of getting one) and say whether 15% or 25% extra time on exams was appropriate for a dyslexic student?
2. NLS is trying to admit foreign students. Don't you think they may need to do some outreach work for that?
Who is whining that they should be allowed to come and go as they please without doing their work? The leaves policy does not even cover such things. Faculty are only asking that study leave for PhD and sabbatical leave for research, which ugc itself provides for and other universities also provide for, should be restored.I agree with the administrators point with you and OP, but I see you are silent on his behaviour towards colleagues. That's very telling. You are either OK with being treated that way or you don't face the brunt of that kind of behaviour becuase you are his buddy. I have seen him shout at a former Vice Chancellor over a disagreement on policy. I have seen him berate colleagues because they voiced an opinion he did not like. The one good thing is that he is indiscriminate about his bad behaviour because he treats students, staff, senior and junior faculty equally badly.....
And early career folks who have just joined who want research leaves? It's quite silly the ask itself. You do need to invest in an institution somewhat before asking the institution invest in you. And even when these research breaks are granted no real research comes out of it. Everyone comes back to India with a foreign degree and puts on airs of being a great researcher- few of them are.
I will concede the last: I do not think administrators who haven't taught a day in their life should have many jobs at the university. Most of the university should be run by faculty; hiring management people and administrators leads to fee inflation and it leads to jobs where people aren't really contributing as much as they take away.
I know why Sudhir went this way, because asking faculty to take on administrative work makes them unhappy and they will use it as an excuse not to research or write. But there is a balance to be struck there. Maybe not every job should be done by faculty- maybe someone running your Twitter/ website should be an administrator. But student welfare officers and wardens and people engaged in disseminating research should be academics and preferably professors. I also doubt that university needs the HR/ people and function department. senior faculty should hire other faculty and you need one person to do the paperwork basically- that person can just be the registrar or his assistant. NLS doesn't need some admissions team doing advertisements and such. They have a decent reputation anyway, the registrar's office on its own can handle most of that stuff. There is fat to be trimmed there.
And I think Sudhir might have gone down the American law school model uncritically on this without thinking through what happens to universities when administrators come in between students and faculty. And how they might be incentivised to keep tensions going so they keep their job. And how this role might cause distrust both among faculty and students.
2. It’s also stupid to criticise the team for having people with great credentials - if people with great credentials and international work ex are consistently joining this team, it speaks to their ability to attract good talent.
3. On attrition, most people who have left their team are those who went to study further for LLMs (which happens in most teams) or those who weren’t getting partnership (agreed that the team is very top heavy).
Local IAS Babu refered his son who barely could put together a draft in 4 attempts, got hired.
If someone gets registered with a state bar council and pays the enrollment fee (which was ridiculously high earlier), doesn't the exam look some kind of formality only?
Shouldn't this be the other way around, where you pass the exam and then only be eligible for registration as an advocate?
An MBA abroad is obviously more preferable, but expensive!!
Your last sentence is honestly insane. Being a lawyer is being an officer of the court- it's not chopping wood or carrying cement. That's not all employment. And for many government jobs , for jobs as doctors, teachers, etc etc you do have to sign a piece of paper disclosing criminal background. And lying is punishable with termination. Guess what to be a chartered accountant, there are regulations you need to meet too, and to be a teacher you need a teaching license and to own a shop or a restaurant you need to abide by safety standards, health standards, liquor licenses, so many regulations. That's kind of how we make sure that people stay alive. The BCI exists exactly to do this regulation and you want to create some slippery slope fallacy where none exists.
What can I expect at the internship? I have never actually done commercial disputes before, so I'd really appreciate the help. This could be my make or break because I do not have any other internships lined up any time soon and my 0 day is fast-approaching.
Any help at all would be ideal, thanks.