An excellent counter, to which I don't think I want/need to add anything substantive.

Just here to say that even if we were to adopt the OP's worldview completely, I think the call to 'replace' a BA LLB degree is uncharitable, and therefore disappointing. I think a much wiser call would be for NLUs to provide more programme options (i.e., providing students with the option to register for a BA LLB or BSC LLB or BBA LLB degree). The world's reputable universities have done this, e.g., providing students with the options to study Law and Criminology, Law and Politics, Law and History, Law and Business, English Law and French Law etc., so why can't a place with a strong reputation like NLSIU do something like that in the context of our circumstances as well?

A BA degree helps you better understand the context in which the Indian Legal System has come about, and thus practice/apply law better. The context matters a lot, especially for things like Constitutional Law.

To say that "caste, feminism" etc. has no practical relevance for a lawyer...seems trollish. The only reason I've not marked this trollish is because you seek a "rational counter".

Let's deal with it point-wise, I guess:

Re: 1 - Why is an ideal end-goal for a law graduate a management job? In any case, if some people are specifically inclined towards that, they can opt for it - no need to replace BA with BSc.

Re: 2 - You're right, knowledge of accounting principles etc. does help somewhat, especially at things like commercial litigation/white collar crimes. But then an MBBS helps you understand bodily injury-crimes better (I regularly consult doctors for insights into MLCs, PM Reports, etc.). ALL knowledge really helps you have an edge in some manner. A BA degree similarly helps you understand the society better, and gives you an edge in the constitutional matters/writ practice. That by itself is no reason to place one of those at a higher pedestal than another.

Re: 3 & 4 - Umm. Okay. Not really a separate point, is it? The response stated hereinabove be read in response to 3 and is not being repeated herein for the sake of brevity (I know, I'm being cheeky).

So BSc & MBA will help you better deal with AI/climate change/business, you claim. But what about criminal matters, election petitions, constitutional law cases, social-rights litigation etc.?

1. A BSc or BBA degree will prepare you better to crack CAT/GMAT and do an MBA in India or abroad. Then eventually get coveted jobs in Wall Street, Silicon Valley and the top jobs in Mumbai.

2. MBA apart, a BBA will teach you practically useful stuff like accounting, investing, managing projects etc. This, in turn, will make you more in demand in the job market and also empower you better to found your own company.

3. Tech and AI are the future. A BSc degree, if it includes subjects like coding, will be an asset. Also, add subjects like bio and environmental science and you can add value in jobs related to climate change.

4. In contrast, just look at the BA curriculum: no practical relevance in studying judicial administration in colonial India, the Constituent Assembly, ▮▮▮ etc

I challenge anyone to rationally counter me on any of these points (instead of just impulsively voting because you want to defend your BALLB degree).

I have an upcoming internship with a Tier 1, but one of my batchmates has just received a PPO from the same team I'm set to intern with. Is it possible for the team to offer more than one PPO to interns from the same batch, or is it typically limited to just one per team each year? Any insights would be appreciated.

hi, can someone give some real insights about LKS, Mumbai specifically for IDT teams? I am aware there are many threads on this. I wanted to know how are things post the revised pay scale ? Can someone share insights on the PPO prospects (Real ones), growth (Hike over the years), etc.

Thanks in advance

Internship interviews are taken mostly by SAs (check email; HR might have kept the interviewer in CC). Questions, tbh, depend upon the interviewer's mood, but they will mostly be related to CM. If you've interned with CM teams earlier, read about everything related to your tasks (same goes for CM/Securities related moots & publications). For instance, if you did some proofreading associated with PPD, read about Ch VI Part 3 of ICDR + relevant CA 2013 provisions + any recent updates/amendments.

All the best!

The only good thing here before Faizan was the focus on academics due to stringent marking. Now he has removed it too, forcing every faculty to hand out marks like toffees to children. One would expect that the spare time would lead the students to engage in other extra-curricular activities (moots, conferences, papers and all), but it has only led to holding one street-level sports league to another every other week. The lenient marking has amplified the low IQ people to such an extent that first years are being mocked to focus on their intra moot, rather than participating in the gully-cricket league. Idk if it's the environment or something else, but the all the new batches are breaking unheard magnitude of patheticness. No one can even write a paper without requesting a prompt for it on ChatGPT.

The placements haven't improved one bit, being just as bad as they were before Faizan's arrival. With just two PPOs for batch of 2025 (one of of which is non-law domain), I keep regretting every day why I chose to study here.

Usually lawyers switch and go to consulting firms because of better work life balance but is it as bad there too?

Without sounding insensitive, don't you think the EY conundrum has blown out of proportion?

The work life is balance is worse at law firms but nobody cares.

I know someone from YC's team. I agree with the 1st part regarding the opportunities and varied kind of work. But not sure about less toxicity. Whoever is thinking of joining should do their due diligence before. Ask the people who have left or still working with him. I have heard horrible things, some of which are so bizzare that nobody can even make that up.

Manjiri isn’t the easiest person to work with.

The SRP team under her is a failed attempt by the CM practice head at breaking into the Securities practice. Her team hasn’t done significant work apart from the (failed) representation during the PNBHFL SEBI/SAT matter a few years back and the current representation in the PAYTM matter.

On the contrary, Yogesh Chande's securities practice is much more successful and less toxic. Yogesh advises on much more varied matters and is an old hand. In contrast, Manjiri is a CM lawyer masquerading as a securities lawyer, and Prashant is only qualified in English law (or so he claims).

If possible, apply to YCs team.

Hope this helps!

Really saddened by the developments at Indus in the past few months. Not sure what even wrong, or why couldn't the management stem this exodus. I would imagine more than 125 lawyers have left the Firm in these months ! The efforts made in past 10 years appears to be all undone. My best wishes remain, and in my view and experience, the founding partners are a great set of people and decent human beings...

How many partners can a team have before it becomes unsustainable?

The query is based on the background that I keep reading teams having a senior partner and 5-6 or even more partners. This is not about firms but a particular team within a firm. Also, wondering does it make sense at mid senior level to stick in a team which already has these many partners if the aim is to move to partnership eventually.