The story of the Amarchand-CLB order and why being a lawyer is (perhaps) the world’s fourth-most stressful job

It's not easy being a lawyer
It's not easy being a lawyer
Exclusive: Just behind being a brain surgeon, an air traffic controller, and flying remote control UAVs over civilians in Afghanistan from Nevada, being a lawyer can be one of the most stressful of jobs in the world.

You only ever get *Damini-*style courtroom oratory or Grishamian boardroom antics of suited and attractive people on the really good days, if at all. In fact, merely getting to the glamorous side of the profession will require one prerequisite above all others: an obsessive attention to detail even after the 42nd consecutive hour of working without sleep. On a Sunday.

Few humans are born with this kind of single-minded focus and most learn it through the kindly instruction or verbal lashings of a senior; either approach can work well.

The aim is to become the ideal lawyer, who can be trusted absolutely and who never makes mistakes. And that is basically what clients are paying for: either to fix mistakes that have already occurred (a litigation, say), or to prevent mistakes or problems from happening in future (in an M&A deal, for example).

The dirty secret is that actually every lawyer makes mistakes but that usually they get away with it, perhaps because they know their way around the system and the magic that they perform seems so arcane few clients actually want to understand it.

Therefore, the idea of a mistake that escapes into the wild is what keeps many a lawyer awake at night. In those nightmares they tell themselves, “I wish I’d proofread that document one more time”, “I pray that the judge won’t ask me about the one case that I did not read”, or “I should not have relied on that research note produced by that intern”.

The reality of nightmares

Lawyers at Amarchand Mangaldas in Delhi were acting in a fairly routine corporate family dispute before the Company Law Board (CLB). To support their clients’ case, the firm had to prepare some affidavits.

Alas some pretty fundamental mistakes were made in the drafting, notarisation and signing of the original affidavits. The person who signed the affidavits on behalf of the petitioners did not have a valid power of attorney at the time that the affidavits were signed, for example, and when signing he did not state that they were being signed under a power of attorney. Despite these and several other defects, the affidavits were also notarised and verified.

However, apparently none of those mistakes, however serious, are particularly uncommon.

“Happens all the time, no biggie,” comments one advocate, explaining that in most courts the registry would probably have filtered out such errors and have the documents withdrawn and re-filed. Furthermore, he says, “lots of lawyers who write ‘I Identify’ and sign next to a signature never actually see the deponent because of convenience reasons”.

One partner at an uninvolved firm says that “there are a million cases that are a hundred times worse than this”, in which “nothing really happens”.

Initiative

In fact notarised affidavits are usually such routine documents that barely anyone, including the judge, examines them in great detail, claims a lawyer close to the dispute. But in this case the respondents are understood to have been sent hardcopies of the executed affidavits ahead of time and, luckily for them, they spotted an irregularity. Kicking off a more detailed investigation, they discovered several more problems, which were raised with the judge in submissions; there was a case to win after all.

Alerted to the errors, the CLB chairman Justice DR Deshmukh took the unusual step of beginning his own investigation, dispatching a CLB officer to examine the notarial registers, who discovered that neither petitioner in the affidavits or power of attorney had actually visited the notary. (Again advocates claim that this is a rather common practice - “I don’t know a single lawyer who gets affidavits notarised with the client there. Getting a client past the court [security to where notaries sit] takes two hours,” claims one who works at a law firm.)

Deshmukh in his 17 August order failed to turn a blind eye to the shortcuts, however endemic. He was scathing and quipped humourlessly that the affidavits “instead of being notarised” were “notorious” and borderline criminal.

Camel’s back

But the final straw appears to have been that instead of withdrawing the faulty affidavits, the firm attempted to “cover up” the earlier mistakes as “trivial” or “bona fide” by “pouring in a plethora” of new affidavits, according to the judge.

He also noted that the petitioners had “suppressed material facts” and had made “statements on oath which were false to their knowledge… with an intention to gain advantage which would not have been available if true facts were revealed” - referring to the fact that one of the petitioners, contrary to the petition, actually held no shares, depriving her of a legal remedy to file under sections 397 and 398 of the Company’s Act, while also omitting to mention that one of the trustees in a trust had died.

The judge described the conduct of “the law firm” as “shocking” and “appalling”, adding that “a Law Firm of the present stature is expected to aid the courts in determining the truth and not stifle it with traverse miscarriage of the procedure”. While he took a “liberal view” (i.e., stopping short of recommending criminal sanctions against any of the lawyers) he also ordered that the licences of the two independent notaries involved in the preparation of the dodgy affidavits be revoked.

As far as metaphorical tight courtroom slaps go, this was already resounding. But Deshmukh then did something that is said to have been unprecedented in recorded Indian legal history. He ordered costs of Rs 50,000 on the petitioner and fined Amarchand exemplary damages of Rs 50,000. That money – admittedly spare change for most law firms - should be sitting with Delhi’s High Court Legal Aid Committee as of today.

“It is a very hard hitting order and nobody expected it to be so hard hitting,” comments one non-Amarchand lawyer who was in court at the time.

Post-closing

A lot went wrong, perhaps even more so in the aftermath of the order, which has been well documented. Amarchand claimed that the partner in charge of the matter was not to blame because she was unaware of the associates’ actions – although it is understood that the partner did attend all hearings in the matter.

Instead, the firm pointed the finger squarely at the younger lawyers and dismissed them on Monday (however, according to authoritative sources, one of the associates had already resigned two weeks earlier, allegedly in protest at his treatment at the hands of a firm’s partner in connection with the botched matter. The dismissal was intended by the firm to supersede that resignation, if that is possible).

In retrospect, the entire episode can accurately be described as a PR disaster.

Blame game over

In the absence of comments from the associates themselves – reasonable and not surprising - establishing who exactly was at fault in triggering the judicial smackdown is more difficult, if you want to avoid relying on hearsay. An argument can be made that at least morally a partner or the firm as a whole should carry part of the blame for the mistakes made, even if only vicariously, but that too is fast becoming a moot point.

Amarchand’s client has lost nothing and is allowed to and will refile the petition, if it hasn’t already.

The CLB sent a strong message to all lawyers, whose submissions and particularly affidavits are likely be unimpeachable, at least for a while.

Meanwhile, Amarchand declined to comment further, and lawyers close to both associates said they foresee few difficulties for the young lawyers – who are by all accounts bright and talented, if unlucky, individuals - to continue their legal careers elsewhere.

Everybody, even a lawyer, occasionally makes mistakes, and most lawyers become partners only after having made a few. And it is worth remembering that lawyers’ mistakes, fortunately, are only very rarely fatal.

Download the order, names of associates and notaries redacted

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Comments

Anon 24 Aug 2012, 05:51
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A very balanced article. It is very true that most lawyers become partners after making mistakes.. experience from mistakes makes a lawyer, again the mistake should not be fatal to the client or the lawyer. It becomes a moral duty of a lawyer to rectify the mistake and build confidence in his client.
kianganz 24 Aug 2012, 06:04
+11 -0
In case it wasn't obvious, which apparently it isn't, we will NOT be publishing any comments naming the associates.
saurabh 24 Aug 2012, 10:28
+0 -0
hey kian,

was my comment deleted ?

I understand if it was. just wanted to know if it was deleted or is the comp acting funny.
kianganz 24 Aug 2012, 10:32
+1 -0
Hi Saurabh - yes, it was.

Ironically, my computer actually acted funny and I posted this comment that was meant to go here on another story.

Here goes: By the way, yes we do realise that there are unredacted copies of the order floating around.

However, if you feel the need to share the order with others, please consider using the 'low karma footprint' redacted version that we have published here.

It contains the same legal points as the official version but is kinder on the redacted individuals involved.

Best regards
Kian
Legally Absurd 24 Aug 2012, 06:06
+11 -0
Very well written Kian!! This is why I like following LI. I genuinely wish the associates the very best in their future careers.
Question 24 Aug 2012, 06:18
+6 -0
A bit out of context question. Can the CLB order the cancellation of notary licenses. Even if it can, can it do so without even hearing the concerned notaries. It seems that the CLB has gone a bit overboard.
Poor Lawyer 24 Aug 2012, 10:21
+2 -0
CLB is a quasi-judicial tribunal created out of statute and hence it may not have such inherent powers of a 'court'! The CLB should have referred the case to BCI and High Court for further iinvestigation.
Anon 24 Aug 2012, 06:22
+0 -0
Great article!
A lawyer 24 Aug 2012, 06:28
+24 -0
Thanks for uploading the order. One thing for sure, the errors are not as trivial as reported earlier. Secondly, the nature of errors suggest that the supervising Partner cannot deny that she had no knowledge of the errors. Thirdly, if she really did not know the contents of the affidavit, hitting at the root of the claims made in the Petition, then she certainly does not deserve to be a Partner. Fourthly, to all law firm associates - do not file anything important without at least formally bringing any closing document/affidavit/opinion, to the notice of the supervising partner. An email addressed to the Partner attaching the document, sufficiently in advance, would ensure keeping on record the fact that the matter was brought to the notice of the concerned Partner. If there be any errors subsequently, the Partner ought to shoulder it and there can be no excuses. Fifthly, for clients, ensure that each and every filing, execution is done after getting the go ahead from the Partner supervising your matter in a law firm.
Another *young* lawyer 24 Aug 2012, 07:05
+0 -0
Well said!
Nice one! 24 Aug 2012, 10:00
+4 -0
Very good points. In fact as a lawyer you should make sure you are never done in by another lawyer (Partner, individually or a Firm, collectively!. Let's learn to look after our own interests and stand up for our own rights before we can say confidently that we can do this for our clients.
Ridiculous Law Firm eh? 24 Aug 2012, 07:09
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"The manner in which the Law Firm has conducted itself in the filing of such tainted affidavits in this petition is indeed shocking.A Law Firm of the present stature is expected to aid the courts in determining the truth and not stifle it with traverse miscarriage of procedure. The affidavits, instead of being notarised are thus notorious in nature and border on criminal offence. The argument that all the four affidavits being under the pen of the POA were in accordance with law is, to say the least, ridiculous."

A damning indictment of the "best law firm" in this country.
Client 24 Aug 2012, 07:13
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The order clearly reflects that the Partner was present in the hearing and is at least expected to have read the file before attending the proceedings.
No question of vicarious liability, she is jointly liable. So the moot question to AMSS is why apply different standards whilst dealing with an Associate "Lawyer" and a "Partner" Lawyer.
I guess money talks. Pity the Clients who have so much faith in Partners.
S 24 Aug 2012, 11:31
+4 -0
I repeat my comment made in the other article on this topic.

What about us Clients paying the fee for such 'excellent' partners who bill for preparing and reviewing each and every document on the invoice but claim various reasons for their defense, when the Sh!t hits the fan?

"If the managing partner is CHARGING the hours, he is completely responsible for the mess.
... I am frustrated to pay their bills when they charge their hours for reviewing each and every document."

AMSS' press release does not talk of what steps it took to placate the client or put him in a relatively acceptable position. It only says:
"No undue benefit as a result of the earlier affidavits had accrued to the Petitioner nor any undue prejudice has been caused to the Respondents as no interim reliefs were granted."

So, AMSS will continue to bill the Client for the mess its team created (? should I even use this word for the people here?) and make more billables to sort the mess thus created!!

Who cares about tightening of legal budgets for clients?
Incorrect Summary! 24 Aug 2012, 07:15
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Kian, this incident is a lesson for all law firms to b more careful. To summarise it as a mere PR disaster is to trivialise the issue. Anyone who reads the order can see that the initial mistake may have been pardoned but the attempts to cover up are what got Judge Deshmukh agitated. I agree with you, even lawyers can make mistakes, but to try and cover up after a mistake has been found out is ethically wrong on part of the lawyers concerned and a systemic failure for the law firm involved. This could happen to any law firm- hopefully the strong words of Deshmukh will make everyone more careful, which is good for Indian legal practice.
anon 24 Aug 2012, 07:21
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Look at paras 7 and 15 and you'll know that the partner was definitely involved. The CLB expressly disapproves the strategy of “pouring in a plethora of affidavits to cover up the lapse”. This has to be the partner's strategy.
inside amss 24 Aug 2012, 07:22
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It's well known within amss that when the PA and the partner were discussing the mistakes made, the partner accused the PA of taking money from the other side to make the mistakes and the PA resigned in protest. How can you work for someone who has such low thoughts? I can also tell you that the PA is really respected by those who work with/for him.
Mindset and missed opportunity 24 Aug 2012, 10:16
+7 -0
Clearly shows that the partner belongs to the class of lawyers who at least have known lawyers who are on the take from the opposite side and make "mistakes"! You need to work with people you trust, if not then there is no point in talking about teamwork at PPT at law schools!

We have to realsie that the new generation of lawyers want to restore respectability to the profession, a respectability where people would trust their lawyers, banks would not shy away from lending to a lawyer. Things are changing, but the old guard still thinks "you took money and made the mistake."

AMSS missed an opportunity here. It should have showed some real leadership befitting a firm of its stature, welcomed the CLB order as a good sign to erradicate the practice of careless affidavits. It should have taken responsibility as a firm and then implemented measures to address the cause of this mistake and in the process helped the manner of practice before CLB and other courts. Alas, they missed the chance and created very very bad PR for themselves.
Associate 24 Aug 2012, 09:21
+5 -0
Very bad precedent for AMSS, everyone has self respect irrespective of money and brand name. No one is perfect whether he is Associate, Senior Associate or Managing Partner.

"One partner at an uninvolved firm says that “there are a million cases that are a hundred times worse than this”, in which “nothing really happens”."

That is very obvious but it was hard luck that Justice DR Deshmukh took the unusual step. But somebody has to understand gravity of the litigation and should act in fair means. This is not a way to react or taking an advantage of your position. Good lesion in a bad way for us.
Atlas 24 Aug 2012, 10:08
+2 -0
Thats right. Also Deshmukh is obviously annoyed that affidavits were not sworn in the presence of the notary. I am willing to bet a year's salary that most affidavits filed by amss go to te clients' homes and offices for signing and then are taken to the notary by a delivery boy. These guys just got an unusual judge who had the time and initiative to call for the notary's register.
Atlas Shrugged 8 Sept 2012, 09:08
+1 -0
Well I dunno bout AMSS but that's how most lawyers file theirs in Delhi!! If you are one and actually have never done it in the past - Great job!
Nice one, Justice Deshmukh! 24 Aug 2012, 10:03
+0 -0
The CLB order could be a very good start to stem the rot of affidavits being filed carelessly! I hope more judges follow Deshmukh, J.

There is nothing which stops judges in India from awarding exemplary damages. In a way we don't need foreign firms if the judges start implementing the laws strictly then the lawyers will have on option but to be careful while filing and before that while drafting! It will have a clear impact on the corporate side also, where as a client I have seen some appalling drafting which made me wonder if I should just do corporate and litigation myself!!
Sad day 24 Aug 2012, 11:02
+8 -0
Amarchand has finally revealed itself to the world - are they an organization that stands up for their associates, or would they be the first ones to cover their ass when confronted with a crisis? This aggressive "I will do everything it takes to protect my own interests regardless of the impact it has on the people who work with me" is (sadly) not uncommon in the Indian legal profession, but one would have hoped that Indian law firms (especially Amarchand) have had sufficient exposure over the years to value integrity [...] We want MORE revenues MORE offices MORE MORE MORE - in the process, you lose sight of the true role of a lawyer.
lawstudent 24 Aug 2012, 11:35
+28 -0
I know who I'm not interviewing with come placement time!
LOL 26 Aug 2012, 09:38
+2 -0
We all know you will jump up and down if you are offered a job at AMSS. So really, stop bullshitting yourself.
actually... 26 Aug 2012, 11:10
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I suggest you hang out with/ make friends with some current final year Nalsarites. I happen to know that the general feeling amongst those quite clearly eligible for AMSS jobs, is a preference for Luthra.

The alleged infatuation with AMSS is not so much an infatuation as a preference for convenience. AMSS was preferred as it had the name and used to have the money. Now other firms have a name and offer more money. There is not too much love for AMSS still left on the ground.
How this hurts Amarchand 24 Aug 2012, 12:34
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While students will continue to flock to Amarchand, some of the brigther students who have more options to choose from, and many experienced lawyers considering lateral moves, will think hard whether to even apply to AMSS, let alone joining the firm. Very unfortunate to see a leading firm dealing with the mess in this fashion.

[...] If you can't sort your own mess in a dignified and confidential manner, how can you sort clients' problem.

@ LI: I hope this won't be viewed as a personal attack on anyone and get deleted!
How this hurts Amarchand 27 Aug 2012, 10:53
+1 -0
Ha ha ha. The redacted part had the name of a partner. Easy guess. It was not an attack, but a fact - a rather pointed one though!
gurinderjit singh bhatia 24 Aug 2012, 13:54
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Yes while serving in judicial deptt. I have also noticed such mistake becuase the fresh petitions at the District levbel were re ceived by me and what I have noticed generally. When the petition is filed and in support of its contents an affidavit is filed and duly stated in the petition itself ina separate para that in support of my contention an affidavit is being filed and attached herewith. But on the contrary what happened oftenly the petition is drafted a day before filing of the same and on the day when petition is filed the afidavit is got attested from oath commissioner/notary and so on. In such eventuality the petition bears the date 23rd August and affidavit bears the date 24th August, whenever such affidavit should be of the same day. Apart from this one, once I saw in a matrimonial petition that in the petition they stated that marriage has been soleminised at such and such Gurdwara and in support of their contention the affidavit attached affirmed that marriage has been soleminised in a mandir(temple).
Nalsarite 24 Aug 2012, 14:25
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The article is very balanced and exceedingly well written, Kian. But why did you feel the need to write this article in the first place? I understand that the legal industry is not as glamorous as the entertainment field and stories like these are quite hard to come by. But are you not milking this story beyond what this is worth? For the first time in a very long time, most LI readers are in unison as to who is to take the rap for this sorry episode - but revisiting this story is not going to make it any easy for those two associates. This could easily have been you or me - watching our work being criticized and made fun of by internet keyboard warriors who are incapable of putting 6 hours of work at a stretch, much less 16. The only good thing that has come out all this (if at all this is a good thing) is the amount of vitriol that has been spewed against the partner in question and the managing partner, who have both hung their juniors out to dry. At least most people feel an ounce of sympathy for the associates. I would hate to be in the partner's shoes [...]
Nalsarite 24 Aug 2012, 14:43
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[quote name="Nalsarite"] I would hate to be in the partner's shoes [...][/quote]

Kian, I assume you have moderated the reminder of the post or this a glitch? As far as I recollect, there were no potshots taken at the partner in that comment, or is even the slightest reference to what I did comment about, (which you have deleted) taboo here?
redsleeve 24 Aug 2012, 18:07
+3 -0
[...] they should learn to take responsibility. disappointing but not surpising. sadly, they thought firing would shock and awe the "employee class". a more common subset is criticizing associates in reviews and sometimes bitterly- all based on someone else's whispers. wake up, because everyone else has.
Not so Annoyed 24 Aug 2012, 19:36
+1 -0
Didn't know you had it in you Kian. Good job.

Pity though that you let the spin doctors at AMSS get to you. Would have been nicer if you made more rounded story from the start rather than this late...
kianganz 24 Aug 2012, 20:17
+4 -0
Thanks for your feedback all.

@Not so Annoyed - all stories evolve, and at the time they break, one rarely knows the full story and has to be reactive to events, to a certain extent.

You then piece things together as the dust settles, which sometimes takes time and may also involve speaking to "spin doctors" and many others.

@Nalsarite - thanks for your comment. The reason this needed to be written is exactly the response I gave above - we hadn't finished reporting the story yet since we had mostly reported one side of the order.

It's one thing for anonymous comments to a story adding background, it is another for us to do our homework and find out and report what actually happened, as objectively and authoritatively as possible.

In this case, as in many cases, I'd argue that having the corroborated facts out in the open is actually a good thing for everyone involved, as it decreases speculation and rumour mongering and allows people to draw a line under this episode and get on with their lives.

Best regards,
Kian
Not so Annoyed 24 Aug 2012, 21:03
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By the way inside news says you spoke to certain sources before you printed. If they are what my grapewine says, then all I can say if you really need to look elsewhere for news.
Nitpicky 25 Aug 2012, 15:13
+1 -0
That's "grapevine". Although wine potentially explains many comments here.
Yogesh 25 Aug 2012, 05:48
+4 -0
It is really shocking how such a supposedly leading law firm conducts its affairs! Mind you, they charge extra premium for their so-called superior (???) services!!
Dahi Balla and Associates 30 Aug 2012, 09:31
+0 -1
In his last test match, Sir Don Bradman did got out on a duck.

So, has Sachin, on many occassions.

Ferrari recalled 10 cars for a faulty suspension.

I hoe you are smart enough to get what I want to say..
Shall I say, Jurist 25 Aug 2012, 09:10
+16 -0
Having read the order (available on CLB website) it is very clear that the Partner concerned was herself present at the hearing. It can also be safely assumed (having heard about the partner concerned) that the so called 'cover-ups' in correcting the initial affidavits could not have been sanctioned or carried out by the associates without the knowledge of the partner. And it is absolutely clear that it is these faulty cover-ups that persuaded the Judge concerned to make such remarks against the law firm and to impose costs on the firm.

I therefore completely fail to understand as to how such an eminent law firm, get away just with sacking the two associates and not the concerned partner. Well, it is absolutely clear that the detailed clarification issued by the Managing Partner of the firm is ONLY a 'cover-up' to save the partner. I must note, a disastrous cover-up by the firm, again. This time, by the Managing Partner himself. Wow.

Coming to initial mistakes in the affidavits, being an advocate myself, I think it would be safe to assume that with in Delhi itself, thousands of even more grave mistakes in drafting and verification of the pleadings happen on a daily basis; and therefore, to make such a big issue out of the initial mistakes in the affidavits, in my opinion, is wrong. With all due respect to the Judge, putting remarks against the junior advocate in the order itself is absolutely wrong and something of which cognizance should be taken by an appropriate court and the remarks set aside. As a practice, it is well known that Seniors instruct the juniors to get the affidavits notarized / attested, knowing very well that the client who is supposed to sign in presence of the Oath Commissioner / Notary is most often not present. And I don't think, this part of law practice, which is true for entire country, was not known to the Judge.

But then, as is clear, the Judge very clearly got agitated more on the 'cover-ups'. This brings me back to my first point, that the Partner concerned ought to take personal liability and quit (if there is any shame left) and if not, the Managing Partner of the firm should issue an even more detailed clarification and apology, requesting the concerned associates to join the firm and sack the partner concerned.

I would also wish to know from the Managing Partner of the firm that if a similar mistake (in past, present or future) is pointed out against the partners of the firm, would the firm still take the same position and sack the partner. In that case an even more grave mistake since the partners normally (I assume!) have more experience and are more knowledgeable and are more thorough with their work etc etc etc.

Ideally of course, I would have thought that the firm should have issued an apology to the Judge and the matter could have been laid to rest. The poor associates, definitely didn't deserve any such action against them as the firm has presently taken. I wonder who is advising the Managing Partner of the most eminent law firm in India. Mr. Shroff, its time to sit back and reflect!

My best wishes to those, laterals and freshers alike, who still wish to join such seniors who do not have the courage to stand behind their juniors and rather make them scapegoats. That is something, I for one, had definitely not seen or heard before in law practice.
Anon 25 Aug 2012, 10:47
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Apparently and more interestingly, AMSS itself has done nothing to address the concerns internally. The news has it that the associates as whole haven't even been spoken to by the senior management and no official explanation has been made.

Though I can only imagine what a hit the morale of the entire firm would have taken knowing that their work and dedication count for nothing when faced with over zealous PR gurus that the Firm seems to have.
saurabh 26 Aug 2012, 06:24
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maybe a naive question to ask.

When you say "partner" do you mean the kind of partners, the indian law firms have ?

for example a firm such as x or y. which are sole proprietorships, but still have some good and lengthy relation lawyers nomenclatured as "partners"

I do not know what legal entity amss is.

if its a really high standard and professional one such as the foreign law firms perceived to be, I don't know whether the partner can be fired. I am sure a partner can be shown the door for gross negligent behavior or the firm can ignore it. either ways, the decision has its own pros and cons.

If its a "indian" "partner" law firm, it would by itself explain why no public action is taken against the "partner"

Amss is one of the most reputed firms, it was not built in a day. am sure this decision taken to censure the associates must be based on some solid logic.

what ever the solid logic may have been, for me personally I simply cannot fathom how the boss can miss being censured for the entire matter.
A lawyer 27 Aug 2012, 14:19
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Similar mistake cannot be pointed out against a partner because no partner of any recognized firm goes to the notary to get an affidavit attested. It is always the juniors that do that job.
SSS 25 Aug 2012, 19:24
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Kian, hope this isn't censored like my previous comment on the first story.

Point is that the senior management (hereinafter "family") has spoken to the associates asking them to stop "bitching" on a particular legal blog, and vent their grievances to the management. An anonymous comment box has been kept at the seat of the PA (who remains with the Partner whose name rhymes with Dalla) so that associates can suggest better policies.

[...]

Hope the remaining associates in the one whose name rhymes with Dalla's team do something about the dismissal, instead of continuing with their lives as if nothing has happened.
Intern 25 Aug 2012, 23:36
+10 -0
the current batch of interns at the firm were actually shocked to see the episode and the way it was handled. I am not going to sit for placement here, would rather opt for a smaller firm.
Associate 26 Aug 2012, 10:51
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As an associate at this august firm I am shocked at what is happening. Guess everyone doesnt know of this but morale is at an all time low. Everyone can be fired any time any place any where. No accountability no logic thats the firm's motto. Shroff plus his closest partners can decide your life and death. Lots of people are trying to leave but the legal market is not good. Otherwise dozens would have gone!!

PS: I am in the mumbai office. Imagine the state of affairs at delhi!
Nalsarite 26 Aug 2012, 12:07
+2 -0
Like AMSS will care. As depressing as it is, if you decide not to sit, ten more will kill to take your place. Sad reality of life which explains how blase the AMSS top brass have been in treating this episode.
scooter 28 Aug 2012, 10:45
+2 -0
wrooom wrooom
another associate at amarchand 28 Aug 2012, 11:19
+0 -0
amarchand mangaldas has the [...]. It may well be the biggest firm in terms of numbers- revenue and head count, but its [...]

@ kian- you are the biggest amarchand 'yes' man we all know, down here. just like ndtv till a few years back was a de-facto congress front, LI- is for AMSS.

Lets see if you have the guts to even publish this. if you dont, well i can tell the guys here' i told you so'. if you do, great... and hats off to you. you will still be cyrils media man.
?? 28 Aug 2012, 11:36
+1 -0
What are you trying to convey here?
Bangalore Lawyer 28 Aug 2012, 13:45
+0 -0
Okay so if Kian is an yes man of AMSS then what would you call B&B ?
Scooter 30 Aug 2012, 09:32
+4 -0
Bed and Breakfast
Bangalore Lawyer 31 Aug 2012, 09:06
+0 -0
ROFLMAO !!
No! 30 Aug 2012, 18:50
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It took a lot of courage for LI to report this story. Please note that no other media has done so, including BnB leave alone major media. We all know how influential firms are and not intolerant to any slight. It takes tremendous courage for Kian to write freely. Many who commenters here at night are probably Shardul Shroff yes-men by day. Let us not stifle impartial journalism by thoughtless trolling.