Harish Salve, fast-tracked to English bar, extols boon of foreign-lawyer-entry to India, slams ‘handful of people’ holding things up

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The senior advocate, who will join top English barristers’ set Blackstone Chambers, argued forcefully for liberalisation of the Indian legal market.

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Senior counsel Harish Salve, who is set to join London’s Blackstone Chambers, said he had been allowed to fast-track his application to become an English barrister, while strongly criticising opponents of legal market liberalisation in India.

Salve said that by 25 July he would be called to join Gray’s Inn – one of four London Inns of Courts that barristers are required to join before they can practice before courts in England and Wales.

“They have a very flexible system,” explained Salve about the admissions process for foreign lawyers. While qualifications were “undoubtedly important” in the process, the English bar also took into account “overall credentials”.

The general rule to become a barrister in England and Wales requires that budding practitioners undertake a “pupillage” under a senior lawyer, said Salve, but in “exceptional cases” this could be waived by the regulators.

However, he would still have to fulfil some of the “ceremonial” requirements, which includes literally dining with other members of the Inns.

Opponents of liberalisation have “been fed misinformation”

Contrasting it with his own experience in England, Salve went on to strongly criticise domestic opposition to the entry of foreign lawyers into India.

“This impression has been created in India unfortunately that the Indian bar is being blocked abroad,” he said. “That impression is simply not true. Unfortunately they have been fed misinformation.”

Lack of access to the English bar for Indian advocates was one of the main arguments in the Bombay high court case filed by the Lawyers Collective.

“Let us be very clear when we talk of opposing foreign firms coming into India. If you think English barristers are going to be doing divorce [cases or matters in the magistrate courts, this is not correct].”

“Best thing for young Indian lawyers”

Foreign law firms, meanwhile, should be allowed to practice in India as consultancy firms have been allowed to do, said the senior counsel.

“When Sunil Mittal goes to negotiate [abroad] he took AZB [& Partners] with them. Same way, when foreign clients come into India they allow them to use their own brand [of advisors whom they are comfortable with]. That’s why we allow all the consultancy firms to come in.”

“If we allow foreign firms to come in, we’ll have Indian lawyers benefiting – this will be the best thing for young Indian lawyers,” Salve told Legally India today. “Come on – foreign law firms are not going to take away work from Indian lawyers. They will hire Indian lawyers who will do work for them.”

“Handful of people”

“It’s a handful of people who are holding things up,” he said about why the domestic market had not yet liberalised, pointing to pending and past court cases.

“Those very people who’ve criticised the entry of foreign law firms have signed best friend arrangements with the firms,” he added, noting that this resulted in referral work for those firms at the expense of younger lawyers.

Inefficient instructions

The current confusion in the rules was also creating inefficiencies in the current system, argued Salve.

“The clerk in Blackstone, when he asked me to join formally, [said] he’s been approached by some English solicitors whether they can have access to my service for an international arbitration. They have been given the impression to get an Indian […] senior counsel you have to go through an Indian law firm.”

“In this time, particularly, no one wants to add one tier of cost. Suppose an English law firm tomorrow wants to brief somebody to take on an arbitration. Why shouldn’t they do it directly?”

“We have to come together”

Salve noted that he was very happy about joining Blackstone, which was “one of the finest in financial work” and a “very international chamber”.

He confirmed that he would remain based in Delhi despite taking up tenancy at the London chambers. “As it is I’m doing a lot of international work by way of arbitration and other things - it’s not that I’m going to shift base to start practice in the UK courts.”

“This is, I hope, a first step in area of cooperation which we can arrive at between the two bars – the English bar and the Indian bar,” Salve said. “In an increasingly shrinking globe where India is going to be a significant economic player, we have to sort of come together and work together.

“That’s why I’m very happy.”

Liberalisation perspectives

Earlier this month Khaitan & Co senior partner Pradip ‘Pinto’ Khaitan argued for the entry of foreign law firms in a Hindu Businessline interview.

In March Anil Divan, the president of the Bar Association of India, called for “meaningful dialogue” on liberalisation to take place after the Finance Ministry recommended “exploring” greater access to foreign law firms in the Union Budget.

The best friend relationship between law firms Allen & Overy and Trilegal broke up in September 2012, citing lack of progress on the liberalisation front.

One year ago, the Supreme Court affirmed in an interim order that foreign lawyers could fly-in-and-fly-out of India on business but could not open offices here.

The Society of Indian Law Firms (SILF), a lobby group of Indian law firms, resolved that it agreed with the Supreme Court view.

Comments

Protection 19 Jul 2013, 14:26
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Kian, please get a comment from Lalit Bhasin. He, along with the likes of Rajiv Luthra, Shroff Brothers, Khaitan and AZB folks, will tell you that this is a great achievement for an Indian lawyer and how this shows that Indian lawyers are as competent as foreign lawyers. But they will still oppose foreign law firms should not operate in India because we will be emasculated. Can you imagine the furore if an English QC was to JOIN an Indian firm in Delhi, DIVIDE time between London and Delhi and do advocacy in international arbitration.
Indian lawyer 19 Jul 2013, 15:14
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having gone through the debate over liberalising the Indian legal market over last 10 years, this interview throws up some interesting points:

(i) Indian lawyers will support opening up, or at least make a public show of supporting liberalisation only if it supports their personal (or their firm's) position. This does not take away from Mr. Salve's genuine and valid comment that the biggest beneficiary of liberalisation will be Indian lawyers that do not have a family practice to stand upon.

(ii) SILF does not matter as much as it would like to think. The legal market has not liberalised because government thinks that (a) this move will not bring in large investments into India and (b) there is no corresponding give away from US and UK. For instance if US and UK liberalise visa regime for Indian IT personnel, govt will not think twice before liberalising the market.

(iii) Foreign lawyers lording over their respective firm's India practices are not keen for the market to open up as this will then force them to shift to india (even though they may not be practicing) and their winter trips to India will be curtailed.

(iv) Post failure of best friends with established firms and the perceived success of Linklaters model, the trend is to set up small proxies of international firms in india. This benefits only a few young lawyers and will bring in chaos in the long run, especially when the markets finally open up.

(v) Indian firms facing slowdown are into a race to bottom on prices to attract clients. they have never and will probably never be willing to invest in quality building over a long run. this results in a few being offered high salaries while the bottom languishes with no investment or structured training. this situation will bleed the Indian law firms in the long run and will make them less able to face the onslaught of foreign firms.
DigitalAsian 20 Jul 2013, 10:24
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It is not so easy for the many other lawyers to seek to practice in england whether as a solicitor or barrister, to gain entry to the English profession. There are not enough vacancies available for english newly qualified lawyers to get jobs let alone allowing Indians to gain entry.
Scooter 21 Jul 2013, 05:46
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Without going into arguing for or against opening of the indian legal market or not, all I want to say is that let us not get swayed by just Mr. Salve being invited to join the bar there. Even the chinese PM gets a red carpet welcome when he comes to India. IF reciprocity is to be the ONLY test (which it should'nt) , let it not be tested on how the premier lawyers are welcomed to their but more so on the extent of their open arms with respect to not so established lawyers or the ones not having the stature of Mr. Salve.

His invitation to the bar is more analogous to an honorary doctorate from a top uni.
DigitalAsian 22 Jul 2013, 04:21
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I would disagree that it is equivalent to an Honorary Doctorate. It is more than that. This gives Salve rights of audience in the English courts to practice and earn a living there.
Carried away... 22 Jul 2013, 08:05
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Yes, I agree with DigitalAsian and Scooter - it is not so easy for other lawyers to seek to practice in England, or the US for that matter.

That is why firms like ALMT / Classis, NDA, Singhania and others have an office in England and the US. Because their markets are clearly closed to Indian law firms.

In addition, Indian lawyers, as opposed to firms, have a really hard time qualifying and practicing abroad. Which is why so many of them work at English and American law firms.

Facts are inconvenient things.
Scooter 22 Jul 2013, 13:34
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What I mean to say is that the courtesy is extended only because he is Harish Salve.
DHC Lawyer 21 Jul 2013, 10:07
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Well, after reading this I feel that his entry into Blackstone is a part of a larger campaign to bring foreign, or at least, British firms to India. In principle I don't oppose their entry as it would only give rise to healthy competition and increase work avenues for young lawyers. However it would require statutory amendments and recognition of foreign degrees for enrollment. Mr. Salve may have been fast tracked to the English bar but the same is not true for other Indian lawyers. So unless and until entry to the Indian bar for foreign lawyers is made as rigorous as their own countries, it should not be allowed.
Are you dumb? 21 Jul 2013, 17:52
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WHO THE HELL IS ASKING FOR FOREIGN LAWYERS TO COME IN? No one is suggesting that English trained lawyers or other firangi lawyers come in and practice? Global law firms in India can be run by lawyers WITHOUT a "foreign degree"! Obviously all you want is to qualify in the English Bar without taking the exam (which you cant obviously clear!)
Bigod 21 Jul 2013, 23:50
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Salutations to Harish Salve for letting the cat out of the bag. This is a list of his 'handful of people' - Cyril, Zia, Lalit, Haigreve, and so on. They suffer from a sackful of mediocrity and fear of their cardhouse businesses being wiped away one the foreign firms are allowed to set up shop. After all, where else in the world will the following be tolerated

>>a firm putting a multitude of out-of-work partners who know next to nothing on the matter

>> partners with stadium sized egos and pint sized capacity to recognise a problem

>>lawyers who mark up documents with redundant and petty remarks solely on the synonyms being used

>>lawyers who blatantly cover their backsides by dumping everything onto clients

>>firms billing false hours to clients

>>partners and associates ordering pizza and coke to party and billing clients
Ex noojie 22 Jul 2013, 05:28
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Have you seen the quality of work produced by some of the so called "top Indian law firms"? Its filled with technical and grammatical errors. Infact the work quality is worse than even the work produced by other regional law firms within Asia. The focus is more on "working smart", quantity and facetime as opposed to quality and time management. This attitude is reflected on some (not all) of the Indian lawyers who have worked in India for a substantial number of years either inhouse in India or in law firms and have since then moved to foreign firms where they impose their style of working on other lawyers or choose to bully younger Indian lawyers who have trained at foreing law firms.

Young lawyers would benefit greatly from foreign law firms, the discipline and the training.
Dazed and Confused 24 Jul 2013, 06:00
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Really, it's only the UK lawyers who are clamoring for entry as they need to feed the maws of their bloated, East India Company-like operations. US firms have enough on their plates with a rebounding economy. Would the US firms put a title on some Indian and open a small office here if permitted? Sure, a few. But nobody there really gives a damn about a country so hellbent on economic self destruction. That's why they sent wild man Joe Biden to tell the mummies in Delhi just what US business thinks of their flip flopping and retrograde economic policies.

Look at DLA's move - Tony Angel plus a couple of random PIO's working out of Singapore and Munich? After one of the chairmen of DLA traveled with Obama to India and got dissed, along with the rest of the US legal guys, none of the US DLA folks want to touch this place with a barge pole. India is a sad joke to US lawyers who have no ethnic ties here.

The idea of hordes of foreign law firms coming to either steal business or save youngsters from exploitation by the elders of the Indian bar was always a fantasy. We are quite alone with our problems now. Even Salve is bailing!
Anon 25 Jul 2013, 17:29
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Salve is in an ivory tower . He charges outrageous fees for doing nothing of value. Knows absolutely nothing of how law firms run. And shoots his mouth off like a prize clown on a subject that is alien . Just to please the English bar . He should be struck off the indian rolls. Does he train anyone at all. Has he trained anyone ever in his life. The entire senior counsel scene in india is a complete scandal. How they behave is a subject of global ridicule. They are most unprofessional category of lawyers in india who think they are gods gift to the proffession.in fact they are like daylight robbers. They even get their home laundry done in hotels at clients expense. It's just their fat reputations and egos that have given them their status, salve , Manu Singhvi , rohatgi and co are the greediest people in the country. They get away because our courts pamper them . An indian qc can hold ten conferences and charge crores and not show up at hearing. Disgusting . When Mukesh AMBANI calls and says jump , he says how high ! The great salve. Bah! What a joke .
agrieved 15 Oct 2013, 08:31
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I totally second Mr. Salve and agree Foreign Firms to come in to India considering the lala type of functioning our current law firms in India have. Especially in the HR arena, what really do they derive out of HR is that its just another support function, but cannot think even the benefits of having HR as a business part and empowering HR to take decisions in line with the strategic growth plans of the Firm.