plebeian

adjective. formal disapproving

UK /pləˈbiː.ən/ US /pləˈbiː.ən/

belonging to a low social class:

He used to make fun of what he called her "plebeian origins".

He retained a plebeian taste in food and drink.

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Unrelated but when Weil got dissolved and its employees/retainers posted their plight on LinkedIn , I saw that people from American Biglaw network came forward publicly (and maybe even privately) with job offers / offer to helpful them find jobs in other firms. Even the incoming associates got this treatment.

I cannot imagine this happening in India, with anyone other than Partners

there's an IPR team? since when? who's the partner ohh wait the WO-MEN (Media Entertainment) Team - the team members were really good to me they gave nice treats though atleast i gotthem ('mind you i was with the Gencorp Team so a complete third person view), but can't say so such about their own intern especially if ur a girl , will never understand womens hate for other women when the entire team is of women, pretty insecure bunch

True. Rao Sahab seems to be the reason. 15 resignations for a team of 24-25 is too much and points out to how the three treat people. You are anyway just a machine for them. If you really value your health do not join the team. Was interning with the team and could see the amount of pressure everyone is under.

JSA and Trilegal are the only non-Lala firms in today’s corporate law firm landscape. Their partners have risen through the ranks, despite their relative social obscurity in most cases, on the strength of merit and general competence. They charge top dollar for their time, and their clients are mostly non-Lala outfits willing to pay real money for real work. The stakes associated with their mandates are generally consequential, and their clients can afford nothing less.

Being a Lala outfit isn’t a sin, incidentally, provided you run a tight ship and pay your people well. The Shroffs, Khaitans and Sarafs figured that out long before you Gen Zers were even thought of. They’ve built practices that stand on the shoulders of longstanding allies who have meaningful stakes in their respective partnerships.

Please get your facts straight, and get to work.

Hello - Have a potential offer with Anagram Partners (Mumbai) at a senior level (said to be towards partnership), but I have heard mixed reviews (leaning more towards the negative) about the firm culture, transparency and remuneration parity especially at the top. Any opinions would be appreciated.

I am two years out of law school and want to move to litigation chambers at the Delhi High Court. Firms are all over this site and LinkedIn. The chambers that actually run the court are not visible anywhere online. You only hear of them if you already know somebody.

I do not mean the big designated seniors. Everyone knows those names. I mean counsel with 15 to 20 years at the Bar who run their own chambers, argue their own matters and are in court every day. From what I can make out, this is the lot from which the next seniors and the next judges will come. If I join one of them now, I get to see that journey from inside.

So which of these chambers are really busy and doing good work? Commercial, arbitration, writs, anything. Who is likely to get the gown in the next list or two? I would also like to know where a junior actually gets to draft and appear, and where you only carry files for three years.

Seniors and people already in such chambers, please help. Names with reasons will be useful to a lot of us who have no one in the profession to ask.

Woke up to the wonderful news that outlook had crashed globally.

Day immediately looked better. Partner called shortly after, asking to look at a new mail he sent.

Opened outlook to confirm it wasn't working, and everything flowed buttery smooth :/

Ended up being a regular working day

are all hirings for 2027 batch done?? as a final year llb with like 0 ppos till now, i am scared. are all t1s and t2s hirings done???

this legit scares me; i don't wanna be unemployed as a 1st gen lawyer w 0 connections in the industry pls helpppp guys give leads or any useful advice is welcome :(

Ranjan is pretty good. Her team likes her very much. She is a great leader and is very good mentor. The work life balance in her team is also very good. She ensures a good environment in the team. The seniors in the team largely are also very good. They are doing wholistic tmt now, with gaming practice becoming practically nill now - but have picked up pretty good mandates.

Darpan is not a partner. He has joined from some fintech. He has been taken as a counsel under Shreya Suri. Trying to develop a practice now but he has does not have requisite experience and knowledge of tmt. More of just a commercial contracts persons and is trying to pivot to that now. But generally not a good mentor and hr complaints have been there about him being really rude to people. Nobody wants to work with him and we have seen juniors in that team be handling more work, client interactions and important mandates directly with the partner. He is staffed rarely on tmt matters and can be seen around more with transactions people in the firm. General perception about him has not been nice.

Arya Tripathi in CAM is a developing a name in data practice especially. Thorough person. Very strict. Likes to interact more with seniors in the team and limited interaction with juniors.

Nobody makes the case for a scheme like Obiter better than faculty themselves! You literally fell into the one trap which you shouldn't have fallen into - by using this golden phrase, "law teachers who make barely more than an A0 at a law firm".

You know what? People have said beautifully in the past that law teachers at the universities are the most incompetent lawyers. They became law teachers because they couldn't become anything else. Don't know how it is in other countries, but that certainly is the case in India, and NLSIU is no exception. You do not make "barely more than an A0 at a law firm" because you can't, frankly, and don't deserve to. You know why? Because getting into faculty positions isn't based on the same criteria as being practising lawyers. How does checking if you have passed some exam called UGCNET and/or have a PhD work in law? Law is a practical discipline. Only those who have done the hard graft - have worked the 14 hour days at the law firm office, surviving on only coffee and sandwiches or run from court to court for 25 years - are eligible and fit to teach others this subject. All those fancy degrees - LLMs, MPhils, PhDs - regardless of where they are from, if they are in law, are worthless.

And even if you voluntarily chose to waste the taxpayer's money by getting on a pretty nice job which largely seems to involve coming on an anon message board to abuse people who are exercising their constitutional right of free speech to use another anon message board, you need to develop a sense of realistic expectations. Just like you tell students to have realistic expectations about grades etc when the first word comes out of their mouth about wanting to go to Oxbridge, so should you develop a sense of realistic expectations about what happens in your job. The lawyers who do the real hard graft of legal practice don't go crying on anon message boards when their clients post shitty reviews about them online, nor should you. If you can't, don't ask for money from students - as somebody else has already said.

I don't know if, sitting in your ivory tower, you have ever heard of a law firm called Paul Hastings - look them up if you haven't, that skill should be possible for you to use, as a researcher? One of their associates once beautifully presented on realistic expectations. That person said that the client was god. If the client wanted to move mountains, it was the lawyer's job to make that happen, one way or the other. The moment you take our time, money and energy away by telling us that this is the academic requirement you need to satisfy first to get into law school and then to succeed in law school, that's your job as well and that is the expectation you have to realistically satisfy. If you can't do it, don't do it.

Hi OP Here,
I am currently revamping the website such that it doesn't require Student ID at all but rather a series of questions (3 or 4) so that only those who know the campus can login and make a comment however, anyone can access the website to see the review and all.
The only reason I used the student ID was that so only the college kids can give reviews and all, and it doesnt store the student ID anywhere on the website or the server, the login creds are stored only in your browser which is lost when you close all the windows of the said browser.

Your only mistake is not reading the room correctly. You are taking this Obiter thing far too seriously and the very fact you are on here is a mistake. The students do not want the faculty involved in this conversation, clearly. Nothing you say will do you any favours in this place. If you portray yourself as being in favour of it, you'll be treated by the students as a traitor to your tribe for prudential, rather than ideological, reasons. If you make critical arguments against it, they will drive you up the wall. All this is evident from the responses to your various comments.

Do you really think NLS admin cares what is said on a student-created website and if people have a hissy fit on there? If they do, maybe your portrayal of NLS is too generous? It's a student echo chamber. If they want to rant on it, let them rant. After all, there is a distorted logic to it: they get admitted to the institute, they take its courses, yes they pay its fees, therefore they join the tribe of other people who do the same thing, therefore among fellows of that tribe, they can express whatever opinion they have about these things. Why do you have to make it your problem? If they rate your elective courses badly and that results in numbers going down, doesn't that give you more time for research? Not everything needs to be or should be a critical thinking exercise or teachable moment. Just let it go. The mixture of anger and effort to get the students to think better of their actions and themselves is becoming increasingly evident in your responses, and is not helpful either to you, or to the students (frankly), or to the public perception of higher education. And if you're seriously concerned, this kind of a website shouldn't have any impact on you, as I said before. If it does, that says far more about your institution than it does about you. This is just the online equivalent of a student being rude about a faculty member in a student cafe.

Don’t bother, the Bangalore TMT team is not the best experience as an intern. And everyone else ik who’s interned there says the same. Closed door policy so you can’t meet the partners. The hierarchies are very strict so seniors will not talk to you a lot. In general they don’t give you a work (I got nothing the first 3 days at all, so not like it’s a value judgement on my work being poor - but the HR lady would still make us all sit in office till 7pm). When they do give some work (mostly your mentor), no one in the team is willing to speak about feedback.

It’s a complete waste of time & effort. You won’t do enough work to learn anything or to give an impression. I read a lot on LI about the Indus TMT having great work, but I was so disappointed when I went.

Try Samvad, Obhan & Mason, or the larger boutiques instead. Good luck!

Sorry for the initial incomplete comment, fat-fingered it.

However, coming back, it's almost as if I'm one of two mistakes away from getting fired, and I've grown to like litigation less and less. Even if I go independent, managing clients is a pain in the behind and I don't want to do that. I've seen my bosses never like how clients behave with them.

So, my initial desire in a way was to get away from a field that I considered to be a liability for me.

I understand your point. I agree that in this day and age, money is practically necessary to lead a good life.

My initial motivation was different. I never wanted to join the legal officer stream at all, but the direct recruitment stream (non-legal), especially because I came to the realisation that I make too many mistakes in my litigation job, and that my end is nigh in the job. Further, the logistics of litigation is something I hate a lot. Like filings, clearing defects, that sort of work. And I generally don't like the hours here, takes too much of my time. Even if I go independent, I

I left my previous job in May and joined another firm. Before leaving, I had requested the HR team (New Employer) to allow me some time to obtain and submit my relieving letter from my former employer. However, despite all this time having passed, I still haven't received it.

There was no written or oral agreement between my former employer and me regarding a notice period or any specific notice-related conditions. However, when I submitted my resignation, I was informed that I would have to serve a three-month notice period, failing which I would not be issued a relieving letter.

I decided to leave after completing three weeks, during which I ensured that all my pending deliverables, assignments and handover responsibilities were completed. In fact, I had been requesting the management to facilitate the handover from the very first week, but they repeatedly refused, citing bandwidth constraints. By the end of the third week, the work environment had also become increasingly toxic, which further influenced my decision to leave.

Now, I'm trying to understand what recourse I have in this situation. What steps can I take to obtain my relieving letter without the former employer making any adverse, misleading or factually incorrect remarks about my exit or conduct?

Any insight or suggestions would be great.

Hi, I'm a fourth year law student and the following is my query.

I am interested in understanding what is the value proposition of an associate. As I have come to understand the work of a first year associate is (per what I understand) the work that a long term intern does but with more legitimate responsibility and attention to detail. This also means that there is no real tangible value to an associate you could replace them verbatim and 3 months in any difference would fade out (This is an assumption I make because I have yet to work in the position of an associate).

What USP could an associate then have ?, I come to the conclusion of if the associate wishes to be better (which I presume is how you progress career faster and improve your chances of not getting fired) is to take more of the grunt work off of your senior associate or partner.

To what extent can I replicate this in my capacity as an Intern (which would streamline me as an associate ?), from my recent corporate internship a lot of the work is still "shush" "shush" because the intern is here for just a bit not like an associate.

Also just on a different tangent, in your position as a SA/PA what is a convincing portfolio from a fresher (I don't mean a CV) (I mean some tangible proof of competence) that would make you hire them. For an analogy consider the github link for a software engineer.

I don't come from an NLU and so scoring an opportunity is basically a free for all deathmatch (which I must admit is currently handing my ass to me). I would appreciate and be grateful if any recent associate, senior associate or partner would help me.

Also please no nepotism, I'm first generation so I'm here stuck with doing things the hard way.

Most people have not heard of this, and if at all they have, they will make a ew wtf face and move on.

If at all you want to enter into this, you'll have to gain a few years in a law firm to understand how a particular team and how law firms in general function.

The basic job of a legal engineer is to help law firms adopt AI tools and teach them how to go about it. It has, broadly, two sides (Selling the product or being an internal legal engineer at a law firm).