While it is undoubtedly unfortunate that this person reacted the way that they did after seeing your CV, the tone of your post is about as elitist and snobby as it gets. Why are the educational qualifications or the work experience of this person relevant in the first place? Your post seems to imply that people who do not go to good law schools or do not work in top law firms are in some way predisposed to being socially regressive. This is obviously not true though it may be correct to say that people who have said qualifications are generally more progressive.

Also, why refer to litigators as the "black-coat crowd"? Why refer to them using a term dripping with contempt? Let me remind you that it is the trial court lawyer, who more often than not has gone to a local law school, who plays the biggest role in ensuring that the State does not encroach on constitutional rights. Lawyers practising before the constitutional courts are the ones who argue against the constitutionality of deplorably regressive legislation. The citizens of this country have the black-coat crowd to thank for R.C. Cooper, K.S. Puttaswamy, Maneka Gandhi, Kesavananda Bharati, Navtej Singh Johar, and god knows how many other decisions which safeguard their life and happiness. The life of the Law owes much to the black-coat crowd and I think you should be ashamed of yourself for considering them beneath you.

This person is not from a top firm or with an elite educational pedigree , but such toxicity is still absolutely unacceptable. We can't have inclusivity and gender-sensitivity only among the 1% elites. It needs to percolate down to the lower tier firms and ultimately to the black-coat crowd in courts.

Hello people, I have been following number of threads on LI since my saw school days. I just have one concern here, if I couldn't join anything just after my law school because of an injury and 2 years have passed after that. Approaching a lot of tier 1-2-3 and boutique law firms but not getting any response from there. I am not eligible to apply for internships not for jobs. How am I supposed to work? I cannot join litigation considering I won't be able to do that much running just now. What should I be doing. I have graduated from a good private law school, have a few tier 1 internships as well. I am loosing hope day by day and family sees me as I am not capable of having a job only now. What should I do? I cannot take a lesser pay job or stay jobless. I will have no other option than getting married as per their choice if I stay dependent on them.

Hi, I work at a tier 1 law firm in a GC team. I am extremely unhappy with the abysmal work life balance and want to exit this place. It is not about the kind of work but mostly about the hours and lack of control over my life. I am considering an MBA abroad but I need to come back to India due to family needs. Is it worth it? What opportunities can I get in India after the MBA? My goal is good pay (equal to or slightly less than my current pay is okay so long as there is work life balance).

Salaried - 1-1.5cr

Equity - 3-6cr

Rainmakers - 8-20cr

What I have seen is at every place be it B4 MBB or Law firms partner component is more or less comparable though the national head kind of partners in B4/MBB make more than Law partners.

The Real money minters are PE partners and it’s just crazy, my junior got into General Atlantic investment role from IIM Bangalore and his fresher pay is 70L base + 100% bonus (1.4cr TC) that too at age of 26, wish I had gone for SRCC and then IIM ABC.

Have seen the market now as MBA and a lawyer and bruh you are so delusional, I am seeing CAs everywhere from IB PE VC to mutual fund managing and Equity research. The spectrum is too broad for them and pay is way hire than NLU grads (left CAM for IIM L).

I don't know about CA + LLB but can assure you of CA + MBA that this is the most deadly combo on campus , all the IB and VC shortlist are dominated by CAs followed by IITIANs and These firms pay analyst 2-3x of what Law firms would pay A1.

Also there are hardly 500-600 tier 1 associate positions paying 15L + while total CA graduating are 20000 and still grabbing 8-10lpa easily while 1st attempt guys are getting 14-20lpa

If you compare top 500 of NLU grads vs Top 500 of CA guys, CA career will mog the hell out of us lawyers.

This is simple statistics and what is this CFO glitch lol, all the CFOs I met were CAs . Like 100% of CFOs in this country are CAs.

Hi man, I am also in a similar situation. What I have understood about these personalities is that they are always in a state of jitter, tend to keep pushing boundaries, and are for sure not leaders and often remain clueless.

While I understand that the job is important, I would suggest that you eventually create a boundary around your work. These people usually keep pushing until they are told firmly to stop. By firmly, I don’t mean being confrontational; rather, put your situation across in a professional manner so that they understand that if they keep putting you in the same situation repeatedly, you may eventually push back. I have noticed that people like this tend to back down when they realise that someone is willing to push back.

A valid thought that may have crossed your mind is to have a conversation with him. It might work, and I would suggest trying it once. If he says that work will come and that you are here to work, just state that you are trying, but it is impossible to look at this many pages within the given timeframe. Do take the example of others and point out that a similar amount of work is given to others, but their deadlines are different. This is what I have done, and it has worked for me. Now, if in the past you have completed the work within your partner’s unreasonable timeframes, please don’t give your partner the impression that they have someone who will do it even if the deadline is extremely short. The more you do it, the more work he will give you.

Also, please be aware of your team members. While they may seem nice, the issue arises when they start taking every small hiccup of yours to your partner. They may not do it regularly, but they tend to do it when they see that the person is already upset with you on a particular day. For instance, there may be days when your partner has shouted at you or has unnecessarily formed a negative opinion about you or your work. Those are the days when such people may go and add fuel to the situation.

Lastly, try to mentally disassociate yourself from the firm and the team. Stop giving them so much space in your head. I know it is easier said than done, but I have already reached a point where I have consciously decided that I don’t care about any organisation or team that I am currently working with or may work with in the future. That mindset is something you need to develop for your own peace of mind.

At the same time, start applying elsewhere. Put your CV out to recruiters and follow recruiters on LinkedIn.

Be strong. I know it is frustrating, and the worst part, as you said, is that some of these people don’t even know the basic law but behave as if they are rainmakers, while giving you the silent treatment or behaving like children.

I know you want to work and learn, so try to do that. Whenever they ask you to do something urgently, ask them when the matter or transaction is actually happening. Tell them what is already on your plate and say that it is not possible for you to take it up within that timeframe. Please add people to the work he needs urgently and divide the work. Complete your part and send it just before the deadline so that the other colleague who is doing the other half doesn’t ask the partner to give that part to you because you are done with your work early.

Lastly, try to create a perception within the team, especially among one or two people whose opinion carries some weight, that you are diligent and already busy with your work. Even if you don’t have much on your plate at a particular moment, create a perception that you are working or that your current task is tedious. Now, whenever these sudden “urgent” tasks come up, having this perception can give you some room to say no or push back. So, it works like this: if the partner asks about you or talks about you with other team members, at least someone can say that, yes, he already has work on his plate.

All the best, brother. Stop giving them this much attention, be who you are, and make your own time. Yes, you and I are replaceable, but so are others in other organisations. We are also here to replace someone else, not only to be replaced.

The partner I report to is a vindictive personality. Im sorry to be using such strong language but it is what it is. I've had enough of that person.

For document heavy disputes (12-13 volumes comprising a total of 5k plus pages) deadlines from me are to cull out drafts overnight, when his pet associates take days for the same work nothing is being said (I guess urgency is only pertains to my work). He seemingly has a problem with me but is not man enough to confront face to face.

The person gives me silent treatment and is reluctant to work on any matter with me. For context I am not a fresher also.

On top of that the person has zero knowledge on basics of law and does not even make the deliverables clear. Has no sense of talking, mannerism and etiquettes whatsoever.

All of this is impacting my personal relationships. I feel anxious. My confidence has dipped to such levels that i need AI to validate my work ! Someone please guide me out of this ! Thanks and much love to all those facing similar issues.

I am diagnosed ADHD. I don't have plans on taking any medications because I feel being neurodivergent has helped with a lot of things (for instance getting too deep into the subject matter or getting obsessed under certain conditions).

So, I don't want to "fix" it, but I suffer a lot with clerical and routine work, and this gets aggravated by the fact that I have a weak memory.

I have started maintaining calendars/reminders (I plan to do this aggressively) and also trying to put a structure in place (so that I dont have rely on my memory to recall what I did mostly).

Is there anything else can be done to make things better?

Just bec they hired tax specialists does not mean that they are mindlessly taking weird people. Some at NLS are taking "about a few hires" bec they themselves were not picked over those who were picked. Dude it's all abt tax experience. Why would NDA pick you for only having corp in ur CV when they are hiring for tax?

As a team, tax is slightly different from others in corp. So hiring would inevitably be based on diff factors and metrics than others. Idt low cgpa would mean that those picks would not be able to work out well in practice. Low cgpa means rather than rambling around in 10 diff subjects, these people focused their energy on tax practice and work experince.

I recently interviewed for an internship at a firm, but I do not think it went very well. The interview lasted only about five minutes, and I became nervous while answering even some basic questions. I want to understand how to respond when I do not know the answer at that moment.

During my internship at the NCLAT, I researched several provisions and rules, which I mentioned on my CV. The interviewer asked what a particular section provided and what the Supreme Court had recently held on it. I was unable to answer because I am currently in my third year and have not yet formally studied the Insolvency and Bankruptcy Code. I also did not remember the exact wording of the provision and did not want to give an incorrect answer.

How do i avoid these mistakes in my interview?