As someone who has used all three i.e. harvey, legora and lucio - lucio is by far the ▮▮▮. One may call all three as wrappers but atleast the other two are better wrappers in terms of functionality and just how much 'legal sense' has been built into the product. Lucio just isnt close. Im happy that an Indian company tried to create it's AI but instead of investing into a solid product, unfortunately its just hype and marketing. The market will eventually understand what is worth their money so lucio should better buckle up.

For VCship, being Dean or VC elsewhere counts much more. As for Jindal, so many juniors have been made professors there out of turn that no unbiased panel takes professorship there seriously in isolation. For VCship, being Dean or VC elsewhere counts much more. As for Jindal, so many juniors have been made professors there out of turn that no unbiased panel takes professorship there seriously in isolation.

Oh I remember the good ol days of working with these men, it had reached a point where I would get a male colleague to communicate all my crucial inputs to these partner, that was THE ONLY WAY to get heard, of course very indirect. BUT I was just giving myself the comfort that at least this way the inputs found their way into the final draft. Just your usual old school boys club with a generous dose of patriarchy - ah cruel cruel thing.

I understand it is hard for people to train the mind and body but that is the whole point to build resilience (physical and mental). Thousands of research papers and doctors prescribe mild to intense exercise - some people take the advice and improve, but most continue as-is and stagnate. 1 hour of daily exercise is nowhere close to 5-8 hour that David Goggins puts in everyday.

LOL at "ADHD". It's a ▮▮▮ diagnosis [...] and get a socially approved way to take speed.

Newsflash: All of us find it hard to concentrate on boring work and get distracted easily when doing it and easy to "hyperfocus" on things we find it interesting. It's called being human. You don't have a mental illness.

The reason you get paid lots of money to do what is basically tedious clerical work as a lawyer is precisely because it needs to be done accurately even though it is boring.

Hieveryone,

I am a fresh 2026 female graduate. I have done a 3-year LL.B degree. Since I am not from a top-tier college, I am struggling a lot to find a trainee or entry-level fresher role off-campus.

I am looking for a trainee position at any corporate law firm or company. My preferred locations are Noida, Gurugram, and Bangalore.

If there are any openings in your firm or if you can help me with a lead, I will be very grateful for the opportunity. Any tips or advice for the job hunt are also welcome.

Thank you!

Bo'25 here! If you join SLS Pune, then the highest possible achievement of your life is gonna be becoming a Head of a random SAB Cell (Presidentship and other Cabinet positions are already given to people who pay for it). You are NOT guaranteed a stable career here anymore and anyone who has joined this institution since the Covid times and ahead has only regretted it.

Neither are firms interested in handing out PPOs to our students nor are they recruiting more than 2 per firm in Day Z making the entire mechanism a luck-based shitshow.

Factoring in their insane fees structure, its wiser to attend a local law college of Mumbai (if you are very adamant on doing law) since ROI would be much better there. Well since you have an option to pursue a Tier 1 Bcom degree do CA/CS/the likes for the legal market is doomed anyways (until you are nepo).

Regardless of whatever you aim to do, just DONT join SLS Pune or its other sub-standard branch. Trust me, any person getting placed at a good place was either a nepo or someone very lucky enough to make it through. Good luck!

Is SLS Pune worth it? In terms of placements and faculty?

I'm from a middle class family and a first generation lawyer. Most people are saying that a lot of faculty has left the college and that the placements are deteriorating.

Please give your honest opinion. I'm really confused, so PLEASE HELP 🙏 I need advice from the alumni.

I also have an option of doing bcom from a tier 1 college in Mumbai along with some professional course.

Thank you for all the feedback.

To make it clear, I've researched on the salaries and perks and I'm pretty satisfied with it, atleast starting with it. And yes, eventually it gets slow, but if I'm able to make a transition to a law firm around that time, it might just be a good bet.

I would value: WLB and money to travel, that's about it.

A lot of you highlight that the future trajectory isn't that great, to that I 100% agree but if that's not how I want to do it then it is a con that I naturally avoid.

I would request if you guys can connect with me through an alias email or something for career guidance, I would be forever indebted to you. Thank you so much!

When you become a partner you will get clarity.

I know of a certain individual who would regularly order butter chicken and other expensive food and the restaurant bills would be paid by his equity partner or the client. Now that he has been made EP, he refuses to sponsor even evening snacks for his small team. Aaatte dal ka bhav pata chal gaya hai

Clients are increasingly refusing to pay for your lavish dinners at their cost. I am aware of associates who would never order food from high end restaurants but the minute a client is paying they want to order from places even their partners have never tried. Especially after COVID, you are expected to either eat at home and work or get food from home. The good old days of extracting money from clients for these purposes are a thing of the past- clients are aware that even first year associates get paid much more than the other professionals. Clients are also increasingly avoiding travel unless absolutely essential. Also as a reputed firm it’s embarrassing that attorneys are asking money for their meals from their clients.

Agree that cab expenses should be sponsored by the firm but partners should assess whether associates are wasting whole day and then sitting late. I know of some attorneys, even at partner level who start their day late, socialise like it’s their last day at work and then sit till late, then again come late the next day.. it’s high time we come across as dignified respectable professionals.

Bonus retention does seem unfair.

I do not trust those sites. I also did a test a few weeks ago, it said severe autism. In the past, I used to meditate 45 mins in one sitting. Although currently my brain is a mess with stress, ocd and maladaptive daydreaming but I do not think so an autistic person would have been able to sit still for 45 mins. Try seeing an actual psycologist/therapist instead of relying on these websites. Very likely your results are bullcrap.

None of them will. Since none of them have the connections Bimal has...

VS Mani as Phd advisor, 2 masters, 2 phds, hague, leiden etc...

Look at his history of appointments..

member of National security advisor board,

National security council,

member of the Financial Sector Regulatory Appointments Search Committee (FSRASC),

Lead Academic Advisers to India during India's tenure as a member of the UN Security Council 2021-22.

member of the Editorial Board of the ICRC International Review of the Red Cross, Geneva.

Co-chair of the American Society of International Law Interest Group on Law of the Sea

Member of Antarctica Environment Protection and Governance Committee, Government of India.

India's 21st law commission,

UN international law commission

and now itlos.

No VC has this much clout.

The point that most people will not agree with is that Prof Bimal Patel has his own credentials and connections outside of India. The fact that he did his masters and phd from abroad despite having one from India is what makes the difference.

When it comes to all these international institutions, politics and diplomacy is more important. International organisations will prefer a foreign University degree than an Indian one. Especially when it comes to international law. If you do a masters or phd or postdoc abroad, then that will get you appointments more easily than an NLS, Jindal etc. look at professors of India teaching abroad, you can definitely see some connections they had either masters or phd from an international institution. This is a lesson to all young lawyers and students. If you want to work or make a name abroad, just go abroad. A llb to phd in India makes no difference. So if you're a jurist, lawyer, academician, scholars and you want to make a mark abroad, just go. A fine example is BS Chimni, he did his masters and phd in India, and even though he's an excellent scholar and highly regarded twail scholar from India. People outside still prefer Anthony anghie because of his Aussie and Singapore connections.

We aren't sitting around waiting for KM sessions and TAE tests. KM nonsense is last priority and always will be when there's billable work to do.

People cheat. This system is extremely flawed and only rewards "attending" sessions and "scoring" right to get the useless TAPs. have you considered the possibility that people are sitting around in groups and doing these tests together? none of us are learning anything from KM, except the best way to evade this crap. if you're actually giving us marks and treating us like children, might as well do it such that people can't cheat. All the current system does is maintain appearances of knowledge management.

Also, if we are on leave, don't make us jump through 3000 hoops to get the TAPs.

Sincerely,

Associate

Just do not. Even the B family knows they are milking the brand. Jindal university tanker has a solid law school as the tug boat. Both work together. BITS as a university hates the surrogate law school in Kalyan that’s why no dialogue, no synergy , no collab. Only brand. Then the faculty are being poached royally from Jindal - major red flag. In 40 lakhs you can study in top UK law college and return without scholarship with LLM. [...]. My friends withdrew after spending some time. xoxoxo

Iv not read a worse answer than this to any question in my life. The contradictions show that this person does not know what they are talking about - there are growing vacancies but people are not hiring because of AI, there is more supply than demand, but the job market is flourishing in corp law. Do not confuse overenthusiasm and optimism with fact and definitely do not rely on this answer to make a decision.

Litigate - court craft is difficult for AI to pickup or replicate (currently at least), or get into something folks are less attracted to like tax, white collar, employment law or real estate if you have to.

Hi! Sure; here you go.

1. Not analyzing clauses in documents - from a broader perspective - for eg a change of control clause cannot be narrowly studied (ie control f control), but related words, such as management, shareholding, directors or the like. One has to strategically read contracts - shortcuts will not work.

2. Making proofreading errors, for eg adding the word ‘not’ when not needed - can change an entire sentence.

3. Missing new documents when uploaded, asking for the same multiple times.

4. Randomly closing requisitions when the client says ‘not available’ - the standard is you should first clarify on a call, insist that it is important to us, if it is still not available - make an issue and do not leave it.

5. Treating DD as an unimportant exercise - the attitude of who reads the DD report - irrespective, the DD is a facilitator to a good SPA - it forms the basis of good warranties, CPs, CSs and in some cases, even purchase price adjustments.

6. Clarify with seniors on the drafting style, template formats, and the rhythm of the DD - for eg when to update requisition lists regularly, when to circle back with updates etc!

Definitely not. The fact that they're desperate enough to hire an A0 as a new firm means they're not willing to spend enough to get an A3-A5, which is what you really need when you found something brand new - you want someone that can do the work, rather than someone you have to spend excessive hours training. You'll have to deal with a disproportionately high workload and piss poor pay. DO NOT EXPERIMENT.

I agree - that's why I brought it up. What's with the IYKYK, then? Trying to make something sound all exclusive, when it's actually more readily apparent? The one thing AI is good at is data analysis, and market practice is just market data analysis - folks that did it knew before, and others avoided spent hours poring over boring documents to get there so they just picked up the phone and asked. Now you just ask AI.

I am a 2025 graduate who left a well paying in house job and have been working in a litigation chamber for the past 5-6 months. However, in just five months in the chamber, my chronic health condition has worsened to the extent that I am scared of not ever being able to properly work again. For context, even though this chamber pays well, I took a 60% paycut. I have an education loan to pay off as well.

I understand the value of litigation and have learnt a lot in just 5-6 months. However, the constant stress and the long working hours have really taken a toll on my health. If I continue here, I really fear for my medium and long term health. My senior, who is an expereinced AoR, likes my work and I will even get an increment soon.

To manage my health condition, I would need decent work-life balance, relatively less stress and plenty of rest. I am a decent enough worker and know that at the start of my career, I will have to hustle more. However, it has just become physically impossible. I am at a complete loss.

I wanted advice on how to move forward.

Should I try moving to a designated senior's office? I have heard that the work hours are slightly more relaxed there with good pay too.

Or should look for clerkships for a more structured work environment to fulfill 3 year's experience requirement for judiciary?

Or should I just look for an in house job?

I had really hated the in house job, where the work felt almost entirely tangential to legal work. I like litigation, but it really is very unstructured and stressful. I love doing research, however, I have never published anything.

I don't know how I will stick it out in hardcore litigation.