BO'25 -

Protection of investors where investments are in Crypto.

Economic Crisis in a Neighbouring country (for example, Sri Lanka) and what all laws should be impacted or changed (Different positions but can use UK-Russia as a base)

ABG shipyard Scan

old school, tech and AI themes

Will write on this in this thread itself once my very own internship gets completed there. I will be interning with Corp Law and M&A team very soon, hopefully get to know what's the stuff and try to get ppo as well. I do hope though that someone with prior experience answers to OP's query before my tenure, so that I'll also get some perspective beforehand.

Godspeed!!!

That's just a fallacious argument you made. Students going through ragging and students getting instilled with discipline have no causation. At best they might have had some correlation in the anecdotal examples that you referred to, since you couldn't have possibly conducted any study in this regard.

As a senior in a journal or a committee, I want a junior to come through professionally. I have seen that a student who has been gone through a fair amount of ragging have higher professionalism/discipline. Instilling discipline is not a seniors duty, if a junior cannot get the work done, you walk off. There are hundreds with more zeal and are better. All I care about is the work product, if you have the discipline from day one good enough, I like you

I’m really not. Israel is responsible for how it conducts the war. And we can have a discussion about that but not if the starting point is that Israel is responsible for attacks on their civilians by Hamas in broad daylight. It’s an old antisemitic trope that Jews are responsible for violence against them. Hamas has literally claimed responsibility , vowed to do it over and over again, and they live streamed this atrocity with GoPros. When you say that Hamas and Palestinians aren’t responsible for that you sound absolutely insane. You sound like someone who thinks America was responsible for 9/11 and India was responsible for 26/11. What you’re essentially arguing is that barbaric violence is an acceptable solution if you can claim an oppressed identity. What you’re saying is that you don’t think Muslim fundamentalism is bad. You don’t believe in secularism.

I’m just an old school liberal who thinks religious fundamentalist cults are bad regardless of the religion . I don’t think any of them are oppressed really. And when my own eyes tell me the obvious truth is that Hamas was responsible for October 7- I don’t seek to rationalise that away because it’s “impolite” to call Islamic religious fundamentalism wrong. I don’t believe in capitulating to these assholes.

If you have a problem with Modi and think he’s literally hitler but think Hamas are a bunch of poor hurt woobies who only did what they did because of mean old israel. You don’t actually have any secular values at all. You support religious violence and oppression and fascism - you just prefer one aesthetic over the other. It’s absolutely hilarious to watch delusional US students - many of them left wing and “queer”- rebel and reject Christianity because they have resentment for their parents ( who feed and educate them and enable this madness) and their culture and instead turn to Islam as some sort of solution. The mass prayers on university lawns is honestly so freaking delusional because people in Hamas would absolutely kill these kids if they could. They’re a resistance group as much as isis or kkk is - not even a little bit. Stop being such a useful idiot.

Pro Palestine Protests if it happens can only happen in JNU or some State college where kids don't spend a dime for college education.

NLUs, IITs, IIMs are hyper focused on career. These kids have a huge debt to repay. So they would rather go for an extra seminar than protests.

Even the protests at NUJS are don't by woke starbucks kids with macbook.

Hire a finance professional las yohr advisor who will sort out your financial needs basis your goals. Also fyi, you are not going to make anywhere close to 1.5 crore pa by the time you are 30 (assuming you are joining as an A0). In 7 years time, you'll be a PA/ SA level person (if you manage to survive for that long, which itself is a big if as most A0s quit within 2 years)- such people don't make more than 50 lakhs pa (in today's money, not adjusting for inflation). Law firms salary increases also don't keep pace with inflation, so that would be an additional consideration.

Pros: Great location, library shared with NLUD, lovely campus, beneficial internship policy (no classes in X sem), massive annual fest, good mixed student body, small but steady alumni network, air conditioned classes

Cons: No placement drive, indifferent admin and faculty, outdated library, not the brightest students in the country unlike an NLU, lack of market recognition

"They have put a cut off of 45 for the general category and 40 for SC/ST. What kind of lawyer will the person be if they cannot score this much? You are asking to lower it to 40 and 35!" CJI said.

"Padho bhai! (please study)," CJI told the petitioner in passing.

https://www.livelaw.in/top-stories/please-study-supreme-court-dismisses-plea-to-reduce-aibe-cut-off-marks-262732

https://www.barandbench.com/news/how-much-more-supreme-court-refuses-to-reduce-cutoff-marks-of-aibe

I think the only child of a big lawyer who has NOT studied abroad for a degree is Paridhi Shroff. She did go to a finishing school in Switzerland and did a short course at INSEAD, but these are non-degree courses. The children of all other big lawyers have studied abroad for full degrees AFAIK: Shroffs, Khaitans, Zia Mody, Suhail Nathani, Singhvi, Jaitley, Rohatgi etc.

Anyone know of any other cases like Paridhi Shroff?

Don't. Please join a central university. A JNU, DU, AMU, BHU or Jamia has better standing than a state law school. At the end of the day what matters is how directly you're connected to your field, and in a state law University that's not gonna happen. As a law student, I wouldn't join a university that is focused in political science and has law as a side gig, so why would you ?

Yeah it’s because of inflation and that these nlus get next to no money from states or the centre anymore because the governments want to push students into private universities. Name one good university built during Modi raj ?

These universities survive on a shoe string budget as is. Sure maybe one or two faculty here and there don’t do as much as they should - but the cost of firing them - the additional work load on other professors - is far higher.

Not sure about abroad but in India the practice really needs decent people.

Labour laws don't interest many people. It's perhaps the only field which has demand but isn't getting fulfilled.

NDA and KCO are the lead players in the field. Write to Deeksha Malik on LinkedIn. She'd definitely reply and help you if you are fit for the internship there.

To people who may be thinking of joining considering their hiring spree- DO NOT make that mistake. You will not get paid, you will not get any credit, you will be made to work 14-15 hours a day, including Saturdays and Sundays. The leaders chose to make employees work during the heatwave while the buiding next to the office was on fire, and there was a power outage everywhere. Meanwhile they sat at home and sent messages to employees to be "mentally and physically strong" and berated everyone when they simply asked to work from their homes comfortably. They harrass employees by filing cases against them too.

More and more people are taking career break - as they should. But recruiters will make you feel like you are committing a sin.

Personally, I got back to a law firm after break of 5 months. Few of friends had 2-3 months break. So it is possible.

Sure, it wasn’t easy to get a job (job search in general is difficult), but I did get interviews from top law firms ( I was ex T1 associate) while on a break.

The way I see it, there might be people who don’t want to hire folks on a break - but you’re not trying to get a job at 10 places, you only want a job at 1 place.

HR professional ? Human rights you mean ? There really isn’t anyone good. You can keep asking but the better thing to do is to go through the faculty page. Prof Dhanda didn’t teach IHL, she taught legal methods and law and poverty, maybe a smidge of admin law or constitution if they needed her to. Nalsar hasn’t had anyone good for international law for a while now.

You can't write the new york bar exam without an LLM, with an Indian law degree.

The job market has been bad - you'd likely be considered an A0 despite all your years of experience, and no one is hiring LLM A0s easily - there's a 5% likelihood of being employed (optimistically) depending on how well you've networked and convinced someone to hire you. Even then you are competing with LLMs from all over the world.

Networking isn't easy - the Indian LLMs who've made it are hostile / indifferent (completely the opposite of LLMs from other countries) and completely unhelpful and suffer from an inexplicable superiority complex. They even walk with their nose up in the air(!). Those from other countries are usually helping their own country-mates, unless they knew you before and somehow grew fond of you in their limited interactions.

The title, basically.

I had a terrible experience practicing at the Supreme Court. I had an extremely toxic colleague who harassed me (there were instances that make me wonder if it was leading up to sexual harrassment in the future) and I got no support from my senior. The coworker was incredibly sexist, racist, and homophobic. The culture was fostered and not discouraged by anyone including my senior. I was told not to leave because that would mean my bully of a colleague wins but sometimes you've got to let them win and save yourself from more harm.

But I am not making this post to just vent. I get that litigation has tight deadlines at almost every level of practice but the culture of "working hard" seems to be just showing your boss that you're working hard by staying late in the office and bragging about getting no sleep. Seniors are miserly and don't want to pay you enough but expect you to put in 20 hours a day. And if you were to, god forbid, sleep 7-8 hours; you're the worst person to inhabit this planet!

I also understand that SC practice is difficult and complex enough to burn the midnight oil at times. Why have we not tried working in shifts? Some people can remain in court while others research and draft and do the back-end work. The shifts can be rotated. Heck, even doctors get the next day off when they do night shifts but here are SC lawyers functioning on 3-4 hours of sleep on a daily basis for months on end.

I am genuinely tired of this lie young lawyers are sold - the first 10-15 years in litigation is when you have to do back-breaking work, then it gets easier. Except it's never easier; someone like Rohatgi with his houses in the Carribbean can't get a break and sleeps in the court halls. Tons and tons of designated senior lawyers also don't get enough sleep and rest. This lie only helps your senior make money off of your hardwork. Wake up, people!

Prof. Mustafa is also doing great with CNLU, Massively in Infrastructure which was severely lagging. The reservation system of Bihar makes it difficult to recruit good Profs but seems like he is trying on that aspect as well. The Question Paper pattern has changed and shifted towards more of being application based. He is hosting programs and inviting people, maybe diplomatically to network and has got more than 16 Cr this year in 2024 funded for University development by Govt of Bihar. CNLU will take some time to grow but I guess the neglected University is atleast trying. Great ill has been done to the University since its inception by inducing pathetic profs knowing no Research and Publications. Yet, I think FM should hire a new Registrar so that the administration works efficiently.

Hello people,

Posting on LI after a gap of three years. Can you recommend good YouTube shows/channels to follow for news/podcasts/interviews?

I really like the work Lallantop is doing and wonder if there is an English source for shows of similar qualities like Netanagari or Baithaki.

The Print’s cut the clutter has lost its focus now, or so it seems to me. I have found some beerbiceps podcasts to be good.

What do you generally watch on YouTube?

Compensation is far less than the market. Good part is you will be made to slog so you will get enough experience to be able to move to another well paying firm in couple of years. Some of the ex team mates have made it to equity in other firms because of their experience here. If you are not that bright then you will be stuck here with less pay for years.

Hey guys!

I'm a 2024 grad and I just got a job as an inhouse counsel. I have my seniors w me however I'm the first fresher to have ever joined the company. It would really help if any of you gave me some insights about what you expect from a fresher that's joined a legal inhouse team.

Anything would appreciated, attitude, soft skills and what skills or knowledge you'd expect them to be proficient in!

Thanks!

Thank you for your advice and wishes! And congratulations on being able to make it without any help from your university. While based off all the information I've received, I'll be taking a gap year, your story certainly provides hope that even if I don't necessarily attend the best university, I can still make it if I work hard.

Trust me when I say this, a lot of people might be able to relate. It has been over an year since I graduated and im working and there hasn't been a single day of peace or calm. Foregt vacation, I barely get time to have a decent lunch at a cafe or stroll in the park. The worst part is that im not even working at a tier 1 law firm or that it's the work which keep me burning, it's the constant and neverending train of thoughts that don't let me enjoy a single second of life.

Everytime, I am under the constant pressure to either perform at work, and when i'm doing good I feel i'm not doing well enough and life and maybe i should try something else too that matches my caliber. Then I slack at work, do f-ups and again become gloomy about my situation by comparing with others and the cycle continues.I see no end to this, contant physical and psychological trauma of seeing people better than myself in respect of college or social status at one side or feeling uncertain about my future while talking to my peers who are not doing anything.

I have much much bigger problems in life than just career but someohow they all semm to dwarf infront of my dementia. I frequntly get head spins and palpatations at work and somehow try to maintain my composure.I make calls or text to random people on social media and talk unnrelataed things with with which dox me further My mind feels like a car with no brakes and no destiniation even.....