it is not to mention a locational disadvantage, it is a factor that leads to less placements. people in nlud prefer to stay in delhi and intern because they can avail the hostel and mess facilities which saves you a good 20k a month (at least) when compared to interning in Mumbai. sure, there may be other factors influencing why nlud produces less placements, but the delhi job market is extremely saturated and the students in nlud and others clc, ggsipu, amity, slsn etc need to realise it. for someone in nluj or gnlu, they have less incentive to stay in delhi than nlud students because they will be paying similar figures in either place as a cost of interning.

people used to pick nlud largely because of the oft cited locational advantage- one of which is the presumption that u can intern in firms in delhi and get a placement but that has been largely challenged now.

not directly on the point but what must not be forgotten here is that either way, the stipend offered by the firms is so dismal, that it very much excludes a lot of people from availing opportunities that these firms offer. interning in Mumbai is extremely expensive, and someone who in not that well-off can barely afford it. sure, there are stories of hustle culture where u live terribly for a month while interning but this must not be normalised. students should be compensated fairly for these opportunities, and firms must be more accountable for this.

The main problem with NLUD is the professors they have

they have drank the Kool aid that they are the best, they are training the students to think better etc

result: students not interning enough despite being located in Delhi

If NLUD students interned round the year the way DU students to, every single one could land a tier 1 job and be known as the Mecca for corporate/high profile litigation

But the liberal professors are destroying the career of the talented students so they can feel good about themselves

In the meanwhile colleges like NUJS, NLUJ know that their students wont get jobs if they donot intern aggressively, so that is what they do and the student bodies are able to keep the teachers in check and don't let them ruin their internship opportunities

By this logic all NLUs should only be in bom. If delhi is a locational disadvantage, then NLIU RGNUL HNLU RML etc should close shop, and MNLU M should have been the next NLS by now. Nobody’s stopping you from interning in Bom - it’s common knowledge that most corp firms in delhi rarely hire. Brilliancy should also entail the common sense to apply to a location which gives you the maximum chance of hiring.

And let’s be honest, poor placement rates are (a) because they simply don’t have the sort of alumni base and corp connects that older NLUs have (b) the sort of market this year.

Dinoo is actually a wonderful person from what I hear — but as a newly minted partner, no idea about the work profile. Same with Modhulika Bose, whose juniors seem to have only good things to say about her. If you don't mind the 24×7 work hours, then even Samir Gandhi is really nice.

Apart from these, SAM has some nice, warm people (AM, for example), as does CAM (heard praise for VP a lot): but both of these places are so crammed with work that I doubt you'd get to see any of it.

On the other end, Indus & Saraf barely get core work, but the partners came off as pretty chill from my off-work communications with them. At the end of the day, you gotta take your pick, I guess.

Hello everyone,

Basically, I'm a 3rd Year student at a Tier 3 NLU. Can someone suggest me a Job, which I can pursue online to earn around 10-15k / Month to support my family. It would be really helpful if someone can give their opinion by their experiences.

I've tried applying on LinkedIn / Internshala but it's not working out. Please suggest. Any job in online mode will work.

Doesn't matter, taking admission in a decent college at an older age is much better than taking admission in a ultra crappy college like bvp that you doom you for life. If you still worry about the age factor, than take admission in any private college or local govt college, it's still 100x better than BVP.

No doubt, as of 2023-24, West Bengal remains the sixth-largest state economy with a GSDP of ₹17.19 trillion ($208.24 billion), accounting for about 6% of India’s GDP. However, this is far from a growth story. In fact, it’s quite the opposite! Your response lacks historical context, so let me explain.

West Bengal was once a top economic player in India (which is why it still holds the fifth rank). However, its decline is a matter of record. Despite Mamata Banerjee’s promises, her tenure has not halted the industrial downturn. Major companies like Tata Motors (Nano project), Hindustan Motors, and Britannia have exited the state. Even ITC, Haldia Petrochemicals, and Shapoorji Pallonji have moved significant operations out of West Bengal. The state’s share in industrial output dropped from 9.8% in 1980-81 to around 5% by 1997-98, indicating a severe decline over the decades.

If this trend continues, West Bengal could rank among the poorest states in India in the decades to come.

How?

Players of Csk trolled rcb over and over again. Of course we have much more frustation than any of you but most of the people started trolling players after many of you was always trolling Kohli for everything. Also because even after you are 22 years old people call you LOCKDOWN KID for just supporting rcb.

as someone who graduated from a top NLU and did not work in a law firm for more than a year, I can assure you that you have the whole world available to you

you can make much more than IIT grads make

Provided you become an entrepreneur

All lawyers doing their own practice are entrepreneurs, whether they understand it or not

You solve big problems for businesses, you can make big money

I just paid 3.5 lakhs to a litigator in Delhi for a very specific kind of result in the court which he has a track record of producing

He will do very little, mostly his team will do heavy lifting

He does 10 matters like that per month

Making money as a lawyer is quite easy - just need a bit of hustle. If you are intelligent its not difficult at all

While this post makes one good point (don't cut off options if you can help it), the approach it suggests is very disappointing indeed. It encourages kids to lead a very intellectually stifling life.

I think there are a few key facts to remember. First, in order to study law at university, you don't require prerequisits from school. As long as you have done intellectually challenging subjects at school (whether that is PCMB, or Maths, Economics, English Literature, History, perhaps a second language), you should have some kind of a good intellectual foundation for studying law. In addition, I think it is also important to remember that the five year law degree isn't the only option available to those wishing to enter the legal profession in India; there are plenty of graduate, three-year-long, LLB options at India's strongly performing law schools, meaning one can easily have a quite interesting time at university reading something else (History? Philosophy? Languages? Maths? Pure Science? Maybe even Engineering!?), before going for law at the graduate level. For the above reasons, I believe the OP's one size fits all approach to be very unhelpful.

Instead, my suggestion would be to have a good think about your future prospects, look back at your own strengths and weaknesses and make your own decisions based on what you think is right for you.

A suggestion: There was a debate held in Cambridge a number of years ago, between Lord Sumption, formally a judge, and Graham Virgo, a law prof at Cambridge, on the motion 'Those Who Wish to Practise Law Should Not Study Law at university'. While that debate takes place in the context of the legal profession in England and Wales, I think a lot of what they have to say could be helpful for people thinking about this topic in India as well.

Quick cultural note: In the UK, studying something 'at university' is understood to mean what higher education degree you choose to study after leaving school. This is probably obvious, but, after all, even a graduate law degree would be studied 'at [a] university', so thought it would be best to clarify, so as to avoid any and all confusion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMR1NIEifWM

Policy bodies like Vidhi start with paying 9LPA to a fresher, which is more decent than most fresher jobs available in this economy. The work culture and exposure that you get are also great. It opens many a door for an enterprising and capable individual that you would not have even known about. Litigation still works better if you don't have to contribute to the family for the first 3-4 years, but that does not mean you can't make a living out of it, especially if you have spent your 5 years in law school upskilling yourself for that, learning how to draft well, picking up courtcraft from seniors, building a contact base. In no field will money and success be handed over to you on a platter, you need to build up to it from scratch unless you are privileged enough.

Mostly all law firms have announced increments but not SAM even though were supposed to announce May end. What is happening? When will they announce? Why the delay? Other Tier 1 firms like TL KCO announced bumper increments. Are the SAM increments delayed so the hype dies down and they can low ball the increments (again)?

Let me clarify the compensation package for LKS. For Delhi, Mumbai, and Bangalore, the offer is 14 lakhs base salary plus a bonus (ranging from 1-2 lakhs). For other locations, the offer is around 12 lakhs base pay plus a bonus. There was a confusion due to a discrepancy between the offer letters and joining letters, as the latter reflected an updated pay scale. And yes, there will be a 10% TDS deduction in the fixed component. So, LKS's compensation is now on par with, if not better than, other Tier 1 law firms, considering the comfortable work-life balance. Despite this, some haters may still spread lies and negativity. This is an anonymous platform anyway so yeah.

13 or 14 fixed (can't remember exact figure), rest is variable — friend who worked there told me that the bonus is given after due evaluation (unlike say, KCo or Indus where first year bonuses are pretty much guaranteed). With Mumbai rents seeing an increase of almost 25% from last year, that kind of salary is really not ideal for Mumbai office people, because their office is also in Nariman Point (as opposed to LP or BKC which are much closer to cheaper but decent mid-Bombay localities like Wadala, Chembur, Santa Cruz, Powai etc), so not living in South Bombay would imply travel times upwards of 90 minutes — so you'd either turn out to be a lucky upper-caste Marathi vegetarian who'd find some unicorn type decent housing solution in Fort etc, or you'd be doomed to shell away about >50k just in your housing + office travel, while still having to travel a bit. Overall, if you take the Argus Mumbai office, your basic expenses may eat away near about half of your salary, which is really not ideal for a first year just settling in — so if you're someone with dependents for you to send home money, I'd recommend avoiding this.

Sanoj has excellent records to the point he is working in Oxford and China. Manoj took ILI to greater heights and will do the same for DNLU. Rashmi is the best VIPS has and Ved kumari is doing excellent for NLUO. You're just jealous that they're highly accomplished professors.

What's a better prospect for a newly graduated L.L.B pass-out either go ahead with litigation under a senior counsel and learn the ropes for a few years or go out of the box and try to work at Law Firm? Are opportunities exponential at HC rather than Trial Courts? In case if someone doesn't have access to HC does the Trial Court practice provide enough benefits?

None is visionary.

Sudhir is the only one who is young and who wants to take NLS Bangalore to a certain position internationally.

Rest all passing time. Enjoying the perks and powers of being a VC. Some of them occupying the post for fun and as a post retirement benefit. Some of them want to remain VC till they die. Many of them only making money, keeping High Court happy, loot as much as they can. They are also promoting nepotism and trying to appoint as many of their relatives and bhakts in key teaching and administrative positions.

All the NLUs have deteriorated in last 10/15 years. Only NLS Bangalore an exception.

Compare Nalsar of 2005-10 with what it is in 2024.

NUJS till 2010 and now.

NLU Delhi under Ranbir Singh and now.

Only hope is more and more grads of NLS, Nalsar, Nujs become VC and change the situation.

Things are better. Admin is willing to be flexible and has allowed students to intern in whichever month they wanted. Aluminis working in JSA, LKS, Wadhwa Law and other good firms. Team recently got qualified for global rounds of Oxford IPR..some students have also SCOPUS publications.. CITIL is doing great, students from NLS interning there.. (an insider in 3rd Year)

How to make non-NLSIU NLU kids who post negative comments on LI red with anger 👹 and green with envy 🐸? Just say 2 things:

“NLSIU is miles ahead of other NLUs because of Sudhir”

“Jindal is an excellent law school that is doing very well”

Bonus: They will also go purple with resentment 👿 if you tell them that the alumni achievements of NLSIU students are way superior. And they will go blue with fever 😨if you say that the gender ratio at Jindal is very good and most guys at Jindal have girlfriends. 🤣

Stephen's, DU colleges were the toughest in India till 1990s. Then the world became different. Students wanted to become specialists than generalists with art degrees.

The advent of specialist education became very prominent after liberalisation.

IITs and NITs

NID, NIFT

IIM IIFT

NLUs

AIIMS and JIIPMER

Etc etc got the best of India but that doesn't mean that Stephen's attracts bad quality students. No. Stephen's still attract quality students.

Nowadays Stephen's, DU admissions are not that difficult compared to past. But it's still difficult.

Oh no, LI shaming has happened for a week now and KCO hasn't course corrected. What will happen of KCO now!!?!

Fellow LI Person, don't think LI comments are ever taken seriously. The firms have bigger fish to fry. If you are a fresher joining KCO and don't know what they have offered you, email the HR or call them. Legally India isn't going to give you answers.

Yes. Such a big mistake. Hawwww..

Don't overthink it. You are at a place 100s of aspirants have tried to reach and failed. Make the most of it. You're already in top four, so don't worry. What happens 4 years later is a problem for the future you to deal with. Study well get good grades and overall exposure and things will be good.

As someone who has been at your place a while ago, I wish someone had told me these things earlier, so I'll write the major to-dos down here:

1. Look up Flats & Flatmates South Mumbai groups on Facebook. You'll either find your flat directly without getting a broker involved — or, if not, then reliable brokers operating in nearby areas (confirm travel time through the M-indicator app): look up the brokers' post history in the groups to see if they're reliable; if they're improper or fraudsters then people would have commented such on their posts or put posts in their name on those groups. Once you have identified brokers posting properties in your budget, start sending a copy-pasted message with your requirements. Within a week, you'll probably find 3-5 viable options, assuming you have a realistic price range for the areas you're looking for. (Remember that 2024 has seen a well-documented 20-25% rise in South Bombay rents, so you may have to compromise a bit. (IMHO, 30-35k is a fair price) Pro Tip: Rent is ALWAYS negotiable if you're ready to pay the deposit upfront & sooner, especially if you're going through a broker. Paying brokerage is enough of a cost as is, make them earn it by offering them incentives in return for them getting the rent down.

2. As for the cheapest areas with ~20 mins travel time by train, I'd look for Dadar, Sion, Santa Cruz, Wadala, Sewri, and Byculla. Also look for (and maybe prioritise) closer but cheaper pockets of localities within Lalbaug, Parel, Matunga, Mahim etc. For example, there are a number of old buildings near the Ashok Gardens area which don't have a lift but the rents are far lesser.

3. Also, try looking for a vacancy in a smaller ".5 bedroom" — well known apartments in Parel & Worli have 2.5 & 3.5 BHKs where the rent for the smaller room (which fits a single bed, workstation & almirah just fine) goes around 22-25k, which would be quite a steal. All the best!

Chartered flights, villas in Switzerland, Patek watches, Cuban cigars, gambling in Monte Carlo casinos, dinners with Mukesh Ambani and SRK, etc…

🤩🤩

We can never afford these, but good to fantasise🤤🤤

Please share stories and let us working class people enjoy vicariously!

This is an unwritten rule across many firms.

So many folks from Tier 2/3 firms and even from elite in house teams like Mahindra, ITC, ICICI, Wipro etc apply to Tier 1 firms hoping to make bigs bucks, getting better career prospects over a few years.

But the rule is almost always we discount experience. A lady from Wipro(or some it company) with 4pqe joined as A0. Banking associates from Wadia with 3pqe joins a Tier 1 as A0.

But promitions for these laterals could be faster than other A0s. Provided they show the output. But mostly laterals also quit like freshers. So nobody gets to make big bucks.

https://www.dentons.com/en/about-dentons/news-events-and-awards/news/2023/may/dentons-and-link-legal-launch-combination-in-india

In 2023 May Global Law firm SNR Dentons launched a combination with Link Legal. Dentons is a large global law firm.

Link legal was not acquired by dentons. It's more of a brand licensing and refferal agreement. Dentons is not like traditional US UK firms who have parity in anything. Link Legal did a massive rebranding exercise with dentons. Link Legal is a Tier 2 Indian practice with some niche areas like Projects, Banking etc.

Question to those at Link Legal is?

1. How does this combination work? What are the Financials?

2. How has life of associates partners etc changed?

3. Has this combination led to any increase in business for Link Legal? Has dentons given any international clients.

Also, has link legal been able to give meaningful work or revenue to dentons?

Batch of 2029 here.

I have seen multiple posts about people in lawschools considering CAT. So is there some other scope related to mba in law or do people attempt it purely to change their career? It would be great if someone could confirm this.

Although, I have heard of some possible prospects in law. But if someone could write down here whatever they know about this, that could help immensely.

Thanks