What do you people even get after bullying school children and college freshers over here? Do you get an ego boost, oh look at this person how bad his english is! Oh look how silly his logical skills are! Oh look at this amateur!

Is bullying people necessary? Can't you just keep quiet if you have got nothing helpful to contribute in the thread?

Seriously speaking, don't go back to jee now. Get whatever college you are getting for engg. If you want to shift to law then shift. But don't ever think of going back to jee. It's just an entrance. It's not that worth it to put in so many years of your life in just an entrance. Thousands of people and even in lakhs take drop every year in jee thinking they will do better next time. You already took a drop and tried. Do whatever you feel like doing (engg or law) but just move on from jee now.

As a 12th pass person of 2024, all I will say is your logic is entirely wrong. You don't know how it feels to study something which you don't have any interest in.

The stream you choose in your +2 should depend entirely on what interests you period! Otherwise the bheed that is in science won't decrease but will actually keep on increasing. Harming not just the people who actually are interested in science by fucking their mental health and chances but also those who select science just because of money. More students becoming directionless, getting fucked again and again by the entrances for the subjects they don't even care about a bit. And finally losing motivation after facing failure for the nth time.

Not every thing should be chosen according to money prospects. Happiness matters! A career will be something that you will have for your whole life. Why would anyone want to be depressed their whole life?

75% of your batch is from science because not everyone succeeds in those entrances. 99% of people in science do not end up with good colleges after their 12th, decide to take a drop and then repeat that cycle. Everyone knows this! And law being a good second option, people shift their careers. They have been doing that for a long time now and still are doing it.

Giving 3-4 chances to these entrances means giving 4 years of your life to just get a college. That is not a joke! You might have graduated recently but you don't the current situation. How burned out we get after our 12th! Drop is not a joke.

Honestly to me, you seem bitter just because your sci friends are earning more than you. 17LPA is not less. It is more than what most of the population in India earns. 17LPA might seem measly to you, but in reality it is not!

You seriously have boomer mentality. Never expected to hear this from someone of the same generation.

I am not the OP but I do understand where she was coming from.

She has described the mundane nature of Law jobs across the board, compared to consulting, engineering and the likes. Also, let's be honest, law firms are the only avenue to make any kind of liveable money. I would've liked if you mentioned examples of careers which pay even decent sums, so the young minds may consider.

Not only have you made a biased presumption, due to your lack of comprehension and experience, you haven't even made attempts to read through properly. The OP clearly mentions that PCM opens more gates. You CANNOT by regulation, even attempt engineering or medical, or any related fields without a PCMB background. A class 12 humanities student only has very few courses to pursue that would enabl3 them to pay bills for life.

It is not a huge ask, for a career to pay you decently. It's a basic human right, a human need. In 2024, you cannot pursue a course on gender rights and then also cover for your basic needs.

Litigation pays nothing. Nor does policy. Do tell us what else you know. A further educational investment is required for an academic career, which may also not be viable for everyone.

While I agree the fact that a career is interesting or mundane, is to themselves and their opinion, there is such a thing called objective boredom inducement. And that is corporate law. There is not one person who would do it for litigation money. Not one sane person who's dad isn't an amarchand or khaitan.

While there are upvotes on your comment, they are just random people not reading your flawed statements vis a vis the OP but just amused with the devils advocacy you have so disrespectfully attempted. Rather than making allegations, it would serve you good to suggest these avenues you boast of after you also clear your own credentials?

Approximately 14.5 lakh people give cuet out of which 2.5 lakh apply for Stephens. It’s way more competitive. The paper pattern is easy.

Clat asks basic level CR and Legal reasoning questions and this year’s paper was very sub-par. In general it’s easy only. Even the toughest clat passages were a complete C-Grade rip off of GMAT and LSAT (US), even then the exam was doable.

I want to ask that is it possible to atleast get a 30- 40k job after completing college if you are a decent student from a private law college. Like in engineering the average students at least get placed at places like TCS etc for a similar salary what about law. What percent chances do I have for the same.

In the Bombay office, the associates and the senior associates who were handling most of the matters have already left. Remaining are on notice.

One of the high revenue earning partner also just left and joined other law firm.

Be it associates, be it partners. People at no level are happy with the pay. I'm really hopeful about this year's increments. If at all this turns out to be disappointing, I'm out too.

Mohit Sir,

You are investing so much for co-pilot training so that people adopt this. All of this would go to waste if those very people are not retained in the firm.

This firm had potential because people are good, culture is good, partners are nice. People won't leave if only the firm paid salary as per the market norms. Please take care of that.

And also, a firm retreat is also required on 3 year anniversary.

Compensation for 2024 batch - 16L
for 2025 batch - 18L

Parity across Delhi and Mumbai

2024 Hirings as under:

SLSP - 7
OPJ - 5

NALSAR - 3

GNLU - 2

NLIU - 1

WBNUJS - 1

DSNLU -1

DNLU - 1

Argus is now pretty lucrative for the 2025 batch

The other issue is the place of a management professional taken by an auditor. There will be serious cultural issues, the firm could truly end up being history due to the catastrophic approach being taken now. In hindsight some very shortsighted decisions have been taken. Could end up becoming a b-school case study

I passed my law 2 years after my batch owing to severe depression and health issues. Post that, I have been working in Tier-2 city and working in litigation chamber for 2.5 years. Chamber work is decent though erratic in nature- many days I don't have any work and needless to say there is no monetary compensation. My chamber has very little exposure to commercial dispute, however, i have done a diploma course from NALSAR to enhance my skills. I also independently have drafted commercial rental agreements, sales agreement.

At the moment I am doing one compliance course. Now the problem is after much thought process I have realized that litigation is not my cup of tea. I believe that inhouse role is something that perhaps would suit me better.

However, I don't know how should I approach the companies as they would be hesitant to offer me any job at first considering my lack of proper corporate exposure. Please suggest:

1. Should I approach them as Legal trainee hoping to get it converted to legal associate job?

2. would companies even bother to approve my traineeship, given the fact that i am not a recent law graduate?

Thankyou for going through this long paragraph of the predicament that I am right now facing. I hope that you all can help me out in figuring out the right possible option.

Thanks for being patient:)

I am from tier 2 city. I passed my law school, 2years later than my batchmates because of health reasons and depression. Post it, I have been working with litigation lawyer for 2.5 years. The work is decent though erratic - somedays i don't have any work and needless to say, I don't get paid anything. Also, my chamber practice is niche and not much commercial litigation exposure. However, I have done 2 courses additionally and have independently been drafting rental agreements, compliance of a small smse.

After much hard thought-processing, I have realized that the inhouse position is something that suits me best-not that I am lazy or something but I enjoy to be more on the decision making aspect of things rather than executing them. I don't know how to approach a company as all my internships have been in litigation only and I lack a proper corporate exposure.

I am aware Companies would be hesitant to directly take me in for job and that's why I want to approach for assessmentship. My questions:

1. would doing an assessmentship be good in my case?

2. how do i convince or what approach should i adopt as most of these beginner positions are exclusively for recent graduates.?

Thanks for going through this all and am really hoping that I can get some answers to my query from here.

Abey 3rd yr ke bache, padhai Kar exams ke liye. SAM aise bolrahe ho jaise tere liye teen saal baad ke liye red carpet banake rakha hai. Just 21 peeps were offered Argus, and it's well known there are just 2 rainmaker anyway, so most will be fired or be deadweight and won't be paid bonuses. BB won't publish that, they're the PR drive for law firms. SAM ka 16 is real 16, they hire 100s of peeps. But continue trolling around here, dono hi tujhe internship bhi nahi denge

Are you that same guy posting long cringe descriptions of internships in never heard firms and attaching the confirmation mail and certificate and also clicking photos? Bhai first learn English and original content creation without chatgpt. Second, the boutique firms ripping you off pay you nothing for the internship and will certainly never hire you

I am trying to register as a user and it shows me the error message that my first name is not as per my PAN details, but it is. I went to the income tax department and verified this, and it is the same as what is on my PAN card. Have any of you dealt with this? How do you fix it?

Exactly my point. The partner herself told me this very exact thing when I was poking her after my interview. I just relayed the same. Obviously HR will play an important part in the decision-making mechanism of the disbursement of increments, salaries and bonuses. An HR has many responsibilities under their belt, even in an organisation completely run by lawyers.

You need urban infrastructure which is clean, safe and of high quality. Does Ahmedabad really have that?

https://indianexpress.com/article/opinion/columns/why-india-has-no-reason-to-be-shy-while-pitching-for-yoga-in-olympics-2036-9433674/

Lets discuss the experience of different practices you know of or have experienced personally.

Currently what’s the best practice to follow where work is not too mundane, good money and can exit 10years down the line.

B/F, PE, TMT, IP, Gen Corp people please share your experiences.

Joined a T3 law firm 1 month ago. The seniors expect me to have the knowledge they acquired in 4-5 years without any guidance. I feel dumb and anxious all the time as I'm left to deal with complex documents on my own. The other associates are bitchy for no reason and expect me to stay in office before my team gets in and leave after the whole team leaves. The partner is unbothered about the situation and has no clue as well. I don't feel comfortable taking my problems to him as he is old and quite senior, I don't feel it's appropriate to bother him with these petty issues. However, I'm a sensitive person who observes a lot and it ends up running my day. It's been hardly a month and I don't like the workplace, it's not welcoming to new joiners. I'm constantly being taunted for not knowing things. Whenever I have a doubt, they refuse to explain it and ask me to study on my own in unattainable deadlines as it's the "norm". And everyone especially new joiners should be punished for as the seniors had to deal with it too.

Thank you for reading this. Good night.

ask any RGNUL kid about what Prof Bajpai did to that university. He just milked RGNUL for his career progression. He left the place in the middle with the university almost bankrupt now....introducing useless programes and spending crores on renovating a reception!!! He is a pretty useless person leave alone a LEADER.

Plan 1

If you are interested and determined to do law but can't go against your parents....then prepare for CLAT along side your engineering first year. Consider your engineering as a partial drop and work hard. Apart from nlus give exam for SLS, du 5 yr LLB, LSAT.

If somehow you aren't able to clear it then stick with engineering and explore engineering options.

Plan 2.

Treat your engineering as a graduation degree that makes you eligible for 3 yr LLB.

In your final year prepare for LLB entrance as now a days NLUs are opening 3 yr LLB courses such as NLSAT conducted by NLS,

NLUO conducts its own exam.

Another college is LLB from iit KGP that is only for engineers and provides placements into law firms and other companies in IP field.

P.S. I was in a similar situation and went for Plan2 and it is worked.

All the best.

It is possible but it’s pretty hard because once you get into in-house the work is monotonous and stagnant. I suggest you read up on recent developments in the field u want to pursue and know important things inside out. Because as far as ive heard the interviews are lil tough. A known of mine shifted from in house to T-1 few years back, these were his insights.

Naag Uncle has asked to respond you here. Please tell us the real price of the car and the music system. Please tell us amount spend on convocation and CCTV Camera.

We all have right to know.

If he maintain the transparency and trust, no one would have asking here.