Not surprised at all. Civil services are a much bigger craze in North India (UP, Rajasthan, Bihar, and Haryana), with Delhi being the pivot. People here yearn for social prestige and authority, with a deep 'lal-batti' culture ingrained in their DNA.

Barring rare exceptions, for a young person in Bangalore or Kolkata, civil services is NOT the default career choice.

NLUD— killing it as usual. 😎 Second-best overall after NLSIU and possibly first if your counting year is from 2015 onwards.

There was a post asking if any other NLU alumni in match famous NLSIU alumni. Watch out for the NLUD alumni in the UPSC. They are your future ambassadors, secretaries, and possibly future ministers after retirement.

1. Excellent news! Huge congratulations to the mentioned persons.

2. Adding to the list... Akshat Baldwa (AIR 173) of NLSIU is also to be added to the list of law students successful at this. His achievement is of particular significance, because of his complete blindness and his having navigated, despite that, a system which is structurally ableist and hostile to the disabled.

NB: Not from NLSIU at all - indeed, I didn't even attend an NLU. Just a blind law student highlighting the journey of a fellow blind person whom I hugely admire.

3. Is it known if any of these persons is likely to join the foreign service? Akshat would sure as hell get in with 173 - or am I being too sure of all this? NB: Don't jump on me, my knowledge of UPSC is very limited.

I am from a Non NLU (a well known college in my state, it mostly unknown outside). I have mediocre grades, 2 publications but 4 really good internships at 3 law firms including a callback. Currently I don't have a PPO at hand. What should I do, if I want to work at a law firm?

Can I intern at a T1 after graduation or become a paralegal? How is the job market?

Can I deny sharing my last drawn salary citing confidentiality reasons?

For context, I am an Associate currently at a Tier 3 firm who is looking to move out. I know that most HRs ask for past salary slips, whereas we don't know their budget for the role giving them the upper hand in salary negotiations which I feel is totally unfair. Additionally, asking pay slips is illegal in other countries but is not so in India due to which HRs continue to exploit us. Can I just not share my past salary details or would this be considered as arrogant thereby making me lose my chance entirely? Has anyone tried this before. Please advise.

Tweet from Shubhankar Dam:

At an event in ILI, someone called Prof MP Singh the Bodhi Tree of Indian academia, especially public law. It's hard to think of a better metaphor. Few will ever match his kindness & compassion. Today, a giant fell and left Indian academia poorer



https://x.com/shubhankardam/status/2030277605539119558

🕉️🕉️🕉️ 🙏🙏🙏

1. Madhava Menon: Opening batsman. An institution builder and great administrator. Set up the inning beautifully.

2. BS Chimni: Middle order. One of India's greatest legal scholars and someone with global standing. Continued Menon's tradition of having solid visitors and excellent people on the governing bodies. Not a hands-on administrator like Menon, but administrative skills are secondary when your opening batsman has got you off to an excellent start.

3. MP Singh: Middle order: Excellent administrator and a very respected scholar. Alum of Columbia University, many years of experience at DU. Hired Shamnad Basheer, Sudhir Krishnaswamy and many young scholars at the rank of Professor. Poached Sudhir (an Assistant Prof at NLSIU) and directly made him a professor, saving him 10 years of service. Same with Shamnad, who was still a PhD student. Many other good faculty hired: Sourav Bhattacharya (NALSAR-Michigan alum), Chinmayi Arun (NALSAR-LSE alum) etc etc. Encouraged tons of credit courses by alumni and guest faculty from law firms and industry. Gave full autonomy to SJA to decide these courses. The NUJS Law Review flourished under MP Singh and became India's top legal journal at the time. In the later years of his tenure, the TMC came to power. Mamata began by appointing her astrologer to the NUJS EC (see report below). MP Singh refused to accept this appointment and rejected all other types of interference from the TMC.

https://www.barandbench.com/news/mamata-banerjee-recommends-astrologist-nujs-executive-committee-nimai-banerjee-ready

Menon was like Gavaskar, Chimni was like Pujara or Dravid, Singh was like Tendulkar or Kohli.

After this, all VCs were appointed under the TMC: Ishwara Bhat, Amit Talukdar, NK Chakraborty and now Nandimath. Don't need to comment further. I will only encourage people to compare the composition of the NUJS governing bodies then and now. 🙏

Make this make sense?? Bro is from general quota and a rank of 402 will probably not give a general quota person IAS, IFS or IPS, since the competition is much tighter than reserved quota. Perhaps he will get IRS??? Why chuck a job at Google in the US to work as a sarkari babu???

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/lucknow/consistency-over-intensity-lucknow-boy-working-with-google-in-us-cracks-civil-services-exam/articleshow/129189480.cms

I graduated last year from a non NLU college and a few months back I joined the chambers of an independent practitioner who's pretty good, but he's young and has been independent for a few years now (don't really have a problem with that personally, as he's good and seems to know his stuff). The office is chill, there are good high stakes matters, there's decent learning, and I'm pretty happy, as there's also work life balance and decent pay. But the matters he takes up are pretty limited area wise, not full practice, maybe that may happen down the line, but right now there are no civil matters, majorly commercial matters.

Learning-wise, in these areas it's good, but I'm worried that maybe I shouldn't restrict/narrow down my areas of practice so early, I feel like maybe i should try everything especially when im young and as i get old, I can't exactly experiment, so I need to figure out what i want and dont want, but on the other side im thinking the exposure pay and all is good right now, so once I learn everything here, I can leave for another office, or maybe if he expands his practice i can stay, as he's very considerate and also seems good. I'm stuck in a dilemma now; I definitely want to stay for a year, and I understand I'm young enough to experiment and all and figure stuff out eventually, but what if in a year people think i'm not employable enough elsewhere or something? any advice is appreciated

That last sentence was not as precise as it could have been. However, its preciseness levels have the potential to be important. Let's change that, therefore: "Such alumni need to be paid well, and/or they should be given more of a free hand in teaching and research." Need to be clear that many in the Indian legal community (not least the NLU alumni themselves) see the NLU alumni as the officer class of law teachers at Indian universities. If we agree with that proposition (which, largely, isn't too difficult), we need to express it in its strongest form.

I'll tell you what, being one of the longest serving associate of the firm's history and probably the only one to recieve a proper relieving letter (where others in my team were just fired unceremoniously or quit in a matter of weeks), the place is a gold mine if you want to start off in the domain. Yes, the firm has a lot of issues regarding it's family-run nature and office politics among the employees, to which even I feel victim to sadly, but if you can keep all those aside and work for straight 6-8 months, the world is yours. The amount of quality work you can learn there, thanks to the non-gate keeping policy in terms of work allocation unlike other similarlay placed firms, is unparalled. However, I would very much concede to the fact that the firm's reputation has donwgraded in the past due to several incidents, however, it is still getting decent clientele, recent additions being DAM Captial. So, if you can have a clear vision in the field, then only join the firm, otherwise, I cant say about other firms of this nature.

Yes it is true. However we do know where these kids go after jgls. Most of the students who comes to jgls wants the perks of having partnership woth foreign universities and law firms.

Many jgls students go for a dual degree programme or LLM with the help of reference from their collage professors and other alumnis and get scholarship. OCS in jgls is mid but the alumni and the professors gives a huge advantage to the kids.

I do know that 100+ students would be unemployed but many of em go for family business too.

So yeah while the placement numbers seem bad, yet many students go abroad. Jgls is ranked high in QS ranking for law cuz of partnerships afterall.

Yes, thank you. This really helps and gives me a clearer idea of how one should be. I will definitely work on it. Initially, I was a bit hesitant because I felt my people skills were not strong enough, but with the right mindset, continuous practice, and understanding how to manage stress, I believe, I can put myself in a better position.

Hi,

I have a PPO at a specialised team of a T1 firm I received last year and will be joining in July. Due to family reasons, I would like to shift my location to live closer to home, but I am worried about making such a request because of my team. Does anyone have any tips/experience with this?

I don't think an openly homosexual woman would find a lot of mass appeal in an Indian context. The real India is very different from the elitist linkedin bubble and the LI crowd. Wait till the BJP picks up on this and starts exploiting. I know this is going to be down voted or marked as trollish, but the reality is not the utopia we imagine.

Write it down: if President’s rule is imposed, the BJP will win hands down. Millions of Muslims have been deleted: doesn’t matter if they are legal or illegal, they are the core votebank of the TMC. An election where the Hindu vote significantly outnumbers the Muslim vote, coupled with the BJP’s control of the state administration, will hand the BJP an emphatic victory.

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Currently working in a chamber of established lawyer in MPHC having almost 4 Years PQE. The work here is majorly Civil, Criminal Litigation, Service disputes. I have a good exposure of Litigation. Regular appearances in Courts, Drafting High stakes pleadings, Replies, Written Submissions. Assisted Senior advocates in Court, Been praised for my drafting's by Judges, Senior Advocates. I also have limited independent practise primarily Service disputes, Small arbitration matters under the NHAI Act, Assisting educational institutes in matters relating to disaffiliation etc, Bail matters. I have worked closely with prosecution in P.C Act. Family disputes. TBH the work here I do is giving me decent recognition compared to my fellow collegues who are equally excellent. Its just the money which is coming slow because of which my other plans are getting delayed. Therefore I was thinking to switch to Law firm practice. Preferrably in disputes team. However I don't know from where to start, whom to reach out. Is it possible to get into TIER1/2 Law firm with past litigation experience?

AIR 1 - Anuj Agnihotri (General)

AIR 2 - Rajeshwari Suve M (General) AIR 3 - Akansh Dhull (General) AIR 4 - Raghav Jhunjhunwala (General) AIR 5 - Ishan Bhatnagar (General) AIR 6 - Zinnia Aurora (General) AIR 7 - A R Rajah Mohaideen (General) AIR 8 - Pakshal Secretry (General) AIR 9 - Astha Jain (General) AIR 10 - Ujjwal Priyank (General)

BALLB alumni from NLSIU and NALSAR are very snooty and like to gatekeep who is an alumni or not. The fact is that any certificate with a university crest qualifies you as alumni. It can be long distance also.

Some BALLB alumni from NLSIU and NALSAR are so snooty that they don’t even recognise LLM and PhD graduates as alumni.