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The main issue is with me as a person. I was never a very serious person in life. I take things casually, I procrastinate a lot, I am often late, and I don’t take warnings or responsibilities as seriously as I should. Even now, this habit is affecting my career.
Academically, I first completed PCM and then did B.Tech because I thought that was my interest. Later, I realized I was more interested in politics and law, so I went on to complete my LL.B. from CLC. It has been about a year since I finished my degree.
I had some good internships, and I believe I have decent knowledge of law and a good understanding of the basics. I usually know what the law requires and what arguments should be made. But when it comes to actual work, I don’t feel serious or driven. My senior gives me work, but I am very slow in research and drafting. Even when I understand the issue, my output is not up to the mark.
Office life also feels very monotonous. There are hardly any juniors. Mostly it’s just me, and another junior who comes only once or twice a week. There is very little interaction or discussion, and that makes the work feel even more dull. I don’t know whether I don’t like litigation or whether I just lack discipline and seriousness.
Financially also, I am not earning much right now. Still, I don’t push myself to work harder or improve my speed. Instead, I end up wasting time on my phone, scrolling reels, and avoiding work. After that, I feel guilty, but the cycle repeats.
Another big concern is family responsibility. Soon, my family may depend more on me, and logically I understand that I should be serious about my career. But even after knowing this, I don’t feel that sense of urgency from inside. That scares me.
When I look at my friends and batchmates, many of them are very serious about their careers. They are constantly discussing cases, law, opportunities, and growth. I don’t feel that same drive, and I don’t understand why.
So I want honest perspectives:
- Is this kind of phase common in the early years of litigation?
- Do people become serious with time and experience, or is this a personality flaw?
- How can someone build discipline when motivation is missing?
- How do you know if you genuinely don’t like litigation, or if you are just struggling with work ethic?
I am not looking for sympathy. I just want to understand whether this is something others have faced, and how they dealt with it.
A good tweet from Abhijit Iyer Mitra.
https://x.com/Iyervval/status/2016034652360999022
Just look at Gujarat. True there is anti incumbency. But look at the opposition.
Remember the famous SOB quote of FDR?
It is equally well documented that RSS members are free even encouraged to join any political party they desire including GOP and Reds. It was designed to do this. Vajpayee was brought down by RSS. Advani too got shorted later by RSS when he tried to do a Vajpayee after visiting Jinnah grave.
Strongly recommend that you actually read serious literature on RSS, including the critical (not polemical) works but also interact with different levels and outfits of the saffron network. You will be surprised that there is quite a mass who are quite open (you needn't agree with them) and not loony jingoistic caricatures.
I am politically agnostic and a realist. And I was very surprised that I faced least shoe horning by RSS. Yes, certain factions are louder right now but there is always someone in the network which quietly wields and uses the stick.
anyway, seniors in chennai do pay, and some pay 50kto 90k per month
Just enroll in a Bar Council where your law school was, or an efficient one like BCMG.
What really pisses me off if that the Congress never raises middle class issues like this — only Adani, Ambani, woke culture wars and Jai Bhim slogans.
2 saal lagenge for implementation
Even the UK FTA has not been ratified by parliament!
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Errors are regularly attributed to juniors in order to shield senior team members from responsibility. This has become a recurring pattern rather than an exception, resulting in a working environment where accountability is unevenly applied and junior associates are left exposed.
The approach to discipline further reinforces this dynamic. Associates are contacted immediately—sometimes within a minute of the reporting time—if they are not physically present, and are threatened with financial consequences for arriving after rigid cut-offs. These measures appear disconnected from actual performance or output and contribute to an atmosphere of surveillance rather than professionalism.
Levels of dissatisfaction among associates are visibly high. Characterising this as a mismatch between generational expectations and law firm culture overlooks the fact that associate attrition has been a longstanding issue in this team, well before recent cohorts entered the workforce. The underlying issues are cultural and structural.
A recurring concern is the absence of upward accountability. While mid-level resources are frequently asked to leave the team for lapses (1 SA and 1 PA in the last 1 year), feedback on partners and favoured resources is routinely dismissed or minimised, and leadership avoids examining its own role in the current state of the team. Without genuine engagement with these issues and concrete changes in behaviour, particularly at the leadership level, the existing environment is unlikely to improve.
Don’t join this team unless you’re willing to work 16 hours a day 7 days a week.
Incompetence at any level is a reflection of incompetence of hiring managers and their inability to teach. No one learns merely because they are "willing to put in hours". Such a millennial thing to say. Solution lies in simple things on part of managers i.e., be less condescending, be more humble, take out time to explain (and yes different people learn at different pace so be little patient), invest in each associate and identify each associate's strength and weakness and work with them on those (rather than setting them up for failure from the beginning). In the end it will only help the managers to pass on some work stress if they manage to train some juniors well. If not then feel free to continue working like a execution partner since you are happy to work in a "PE" team doing "volume heavy" "decent work".
The team does decent work. Nothing very high level. Nothing very complicated and if the juniors are not able to keep up that means their quality is truly questionable
The team is actually a brilliant place to learn. If you're willing to put in hours and use your mind on some days at least
Gen Z dreams about life and law firm realities will always clash and you always know what prevails
However there were few things that didn't cut it for me. One of the associates made my life difficult. This person was so passively aggressive and made absurd comments regarding the output. The work was not explained by this concerned person and when reached out to, was so indifferent about it.
One of the partners also has a habit of making rude comments unknowingly. He/she may not notice it, but it surely does affect a person.
Getting back to the work hours, you may leave at 2-3 but there is substantial amount of work, especially in the gen corp and banking teams. The exposure is great, but do not expect a chill time.
The pay is okayish, around 12lpa, I don't know the pay at higher levels.
The funds team seemed very chill and the people were nice too. Wish I interned with them, would have changed my perspective.
Now majority of the people around me are choosing NUJS/NLUJ. Plus general seats there are also more than GNLU as GNLU has massive reservation.
Should I switch to NUJS in Vacancy ? Will it be worth it ? Are the problems their being solved ?
can someone tell me how their internship experience has been at IC RegFin Legal?
Does the firm give stipend to the interns? And what is the salary paid to A0s?
Thank you!
to ▮▮▮ who have a problem with this. First see someone terminally ill or someone with dementia, and then talk.
"Girish Mahajan didn't take Dr Ambedkar's name in his speech, whereas the names of those people who were not responsible for democracy and the Constitution were frequently mentioned. Why was the name of the person who deserves the real honour of the Republic Day not taken during the speech?" she asked.
She accused Mahajan of trying to erase Dr Ambedkar's identity. "People like me can get government jobs because of Dr Ambedkar. I will not apologise," she said and dared the administration to suspend her...
Vanchit Bahujan Aghadi (VBA) chief and grandson of Dr Ambedkar, Prakash Ambedkar, spoke to Jadhav over the phone. Taking to X (formerly Twitter), he wrote, "Today, I spoke on the phone with Madhavi Jadhav (a forest guard), who publicly protested against the vile mentality of BJP minister Girish Mahajan in Nashik. During the call, Madhavi Jadhav narrated the entire sequence of events to me. Minister Girish Mahajan's actions constitute a crime under the Atrocities Act. The Vanchit Bahujan Aghadi Nashik West Committee is currently attempting to file a complaint with the police regarding this matter."
He added, "If the police do not register this case, I myself will draft the necessary legal documents and compel the police to register the crime. The RSS-BJP is consistently insulting Dr Babasaheb Ambedkar. We publicly condemn the actions of the BJP and Girish Mahajan," he added.
https://www.freepressjournal.in/pune/who-is-madhavi-jadhav-nashik-forest-officer-who-interrupted-girish-mahajans-speech-for-not-mentioning-dr-babasaheb-ambedkar
More like a fantasy story, but if it ever happens it would be fun to watch the drama.
Do you see the AG taking notes in every hearing? TM? How about ASM? The issue about KS not being there while the other side is arguing is a sad story telling of the traditional Indian senior's practice -- which GSN etc. are changing, sure.
He does not read, yes... I don't know what prep he does the morning of, but he is an effective lawyer; has been since before most of us were born. You talk of 370, ED, Umar Khalid, or the SIR cases as if his arguments will change anything. As anyone who's read the Umar Khalid judgment will know, most of these judgments on contentious political issues are bereft of legal reasoning. The SC has been politicised and at this point, KS, AMS are the only ones from the old bastion whose voices cannot be silenced by the Bench... for now.