Nothing great on substance. Judges eye visibility for post retirement arbitrator appointments. Organising committee is another jamboree- same senior counsel and lawyers control who gets to be a part of the organising committee and who speaks what. You scratch my back and I scratch yours is very prevalent in this coterie. Foreign firms use this for visibility but the actual practising arbitration lawyers don’t really bother.

But is it really worth it? Why not buy an apartment in London or New York with that kind of money??

https://www.news18.com/business/real-estate/at-rs-500-crore-this-ultra-luxury-apartment-will-be-indias-costliest-ws-kl-9604238.html

First of all, MoGo has got to be joking if he claims that this TV interview is enough to file a curative petition.

Secondly, MoGo was a youth Congress activist in his student days and later headed the Congress-aligned think tank the Rajiv Gandhi Foundation. Also close to RaGa. Google and check it out.

MoGo 🤝 RaGa.

The only reason why the center right people do not speak is that they very well know their views are against everyone who is not them. So their basic human reasoning makes them mindful of the fact that if they speak things which are against everyone who are not them will be opposed by others. Otherwise there is no reason for an educated adult person to not speak their mind. They do not speak because they know down that they are wrong.

These are not good reasons and more importantly not legally actionable reasons. You could query though that UGC does not have a rep in the committee. But check given the numerous times state gov, governor and centre clashed on this.

The big question is where is the much promised smoking gun? Does SJA have it? Show it or resign en masse. Doesn't matter which faculty hearsay was acted upon. Out the faculty too.

And so the cat comes out of the bag and gets set among the pigeons. Clearly those chanting SC intervention can stop because the SJA completely messed up. Justice DD already suspects that this student action was motivated and when he asked the SJA couldn't deliver with damning evidence against the VC. Why do you think VC had his horsemen around him despite the hue and cry? Because they knew the corner spot DD had taken and the farcical fight of SJA, which clearly had no good intentions. Now the CJ designate is expected for convocation and the VC has signalled his intention to depart. So now he will be given an honourable exit by the VC as if this was all churlish stuff instigated by certain faculty members, which isn't exactly untrue.

The VC issue is kinda settled. It is now time to scrutinize the role of SJA brass. They should all be thrown out en masse. Because they are charlatans and allowed known manipulators in the faculty to sabotage GB. Most importantly their heads should roll for not producing documents that conclusively prove allegations of financial mismanagement by NKC. Just like no one believes NKC, it is equally hard to believe that SJA wasn't his conniving partner and a beneficiary.

Clear from the interview that he will resign only until a new VC is appointed, to avoid the taint of forcible resignation. Around 30 days to go, so he will drag and delay. But even if he did resign now, his term is almost over. The students are 6 years too late in protesting. They should have protested on day 1, when he was appointed ahead of VCV.

I agree that nkc needs to leave. But your questions aren't relevant in this context for him to answer. He didn't form the search committee, EC did. Most EC members are nominees of external authorities, VC doesn't appoint them, so the blame lies with such authorities for lack of quality nominees. No NLU or any other Indian university involves alumni for faculty recruitment or admin policies either. NUJS isn't the exception, but very much the norm. It should be changed, yes, but not doing so is not the same as not doing one's job. There are plenty of things that the VC was supposed to do, but didn't. Talk about those.

Blindly reproduces his version and doesn’t give the student point of view. Also leaves out three crucial points:

1. Complete non-transparency in VC appointment. NLSIU’s VC appointment panel had KK Venugopal, MP Singh and the DYC. Why not here?

2. Why the NUJS governing body had eminent legal luminaries of national standing in the Left Front years but is today filled with mediocre TMC lackeys. People on the governing body during the Left Front years included KKV, Justice Ruma Pal, former SG Dipankar Gupta etc etc.

3. Non-involvement of alumni in college functioning and faculty recruitment.

It’s such a tragedy that Kian isn’t around any more! During his time, LI was an activist website that held VCs accountable.

https://www.barandbench.com/interviews/law-school-interviews/i-have-proof-of-instigation-under-fire-nujs-vice-chancellor-prof-nk-chakrabarti

I can tell you are a law student given that you do not understand what PPP is. I know of people living in London working in banks who earn around 100k pounds a year and barely manage to save anything due to the insane cost of living when compared to living with your family in Bombay or Delhi and saving up money earned at a firm

1. About the difficulty in making partner in those kinds of firms, no doubt. Also no question about the "running at full capacity".

2. I think you know that the India part of this argument is not entirely true. The reality of how India works is that a lot of partnership sort of opportunities comes by licking the backsides of the right people and having the right contacts.

No one will intervene when SJA was just being churlish. Also why bring the TMC v whoever politics into the campus? You think it doesn't touch the so called infallible SC?;

And when SC judge in the GC wanted evidence what did the SJA and the faculty do? I care abt the faculty as much they care about us. But SJA? They must pay the price of breaking out trust and making us run and look like headless chickens.

And now get to know that the headless chickens actually made 65 demands? Not that 47 demands made things sound or look better. Still what are these demands that couldn't even be mentioned in the media and not even when a student wrote on The Wire?

Where is the KO evidence? The lack of it clearly ensured that SJA was rightly fobbed off by the GC and now VC feels confident to organise interviews and dog whistle threats. He had indicated similarly through brief statements to Indian Express and TT.

Now the VC is unlikely to be given marching orders on Oct 16. So the farcical Oct 31 ultimatum of the SJA will fall flat. What then? Will it go against the EC? Will SJA litigate in Cal HC and SC esp when it cannot even produce the so called incriminating evidence before us; before GC; and before the media during the protests.

Kick out this SJA.

There is a single troll on LI who bears a grudge against Sudhir and obsessively posts hate comments against him. This person canvases for TLC VCs over NLU VCs for that reason.

Buddy, your propaganda ain’t gonna work. NUJS students and alumni unanimously want an NLU-alum VC. And yes, we would much rather have a “phoren” educated VC rather than one with a jugaad PhD from Hazra or North Bengal (the VC of the latter was arrested in connection with the West Bengal teacher recruitment scam).

For those looking to replace NKC with "NLUites" esp the "foren" silver tongued variety similar to Messiah lording somewhere south or some supposedly no-nonsense fellow up north and like; just don't get Damned. As with Hunger Games, the alternative to Prez Snow needn't be a bleeding heart. Look beyond the obvious and the sheen. Only an insider knows this place best at the moment. Any external candidate, will depend on the Four Horsemen and this vicious cycle will repeat. With each turn, the downward slide will acquire greater momentum till we end up in free fall. Only our skin is in play. So we must do what is in our best interests. Alumni, teachers etc all have their agendas and armchair punditry.

Do they matter? Also SJA has always been apolitical. Hopefully it will remain so going fwd. Also how does it matter who gives a like or tweet, where is the clinching evidence against NKC and his gang? Has the SJA gone off to sleep? How can GB just swallow the spiel of financial mismanagement without a shared of evidence that sticks? And SJA thinks it's farcical ultimatum will run on auto pilot?

Let's not kid ourselves please. Our student body does nothing but in-fight and gossip. It's embarrassing that as a top tier NLU our only claim to fame is a student body that does a half-hearted protest once in a while. Meanwhile GNLU with zero protests is climbing up NIRF steadily. Shame to let that RW cesspool overshadow us in rankings by simply existing while we have to beg for basic rights

NUJS also has an active student body, which often gets powerful enough to evict VCs. Shook up PIB intermittently during his first term and then evicted him early into second term. All this when the entire EC had unanimously gifted him a second term and he had full state and HC support. Maybe this time too the students will do it to NKC despite the reluctance of SJA.

Hard to believe this. Why will Trump allow this???

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/us-firms-to-consider-shifting-work-to-india-as-trump-hikes-h1-b-visa-fee-9369365?pfrom=home-ndtv_topscroll

As lawyers, we have to measure our words more than the others. Someone as senior as MS should factor that so more since a big part in running a law firm is to manage people (internal and external). Sometimes people get carried away while speaking and they don't realise what they have been saying. That shouldn't have been the case while writing this email.

Creates a very bad impression and will create only problems in future. It appears that he is looking at short term solutions and while doing so, he is aggravating the people who are actually bedrock of the firm.

Also just to add the owner himself never shows up on time. Dont think anyone would have seen him in office, barring very few exceptional days, ever at work before 1 pm or 2 pm. How about setting example from the top as his mail says! He can have important BD meetings outside work and not others, seriously! Who talks like that in today's times. This feudal mindset has to go

Hello everyone, I need some guidance. In my 2nd year, I was caught cheating in an exam. I had written some case laws on my hand because I was not able to remember them. I was caught and my paper was cancelled. However, I later cleared the backlog paper with good grades. Since then, I have never repeated such a mistake.

Currently, I have a good CGPA, I am among the top 15 students in my batch and I have built a good CV. I am now in my 4th year with 3–4 upcoming Tier 1 internships. My concern is whether this incident will create a problem during background checks by firms. On my marksheet, that particular paper shows an "R" (which simply means Repeat).

I would really appreciate any advice on this.

Can someone please explain to me what virtual internships are like? Specifically virtual litigation internships.

Like, what all does work usually entail, how demanding can they be etc.

Also, can people do 2 virtual internships simultaneously? or can they do one virtual and one physical internship simultaneously? (asking in terms of feasibility)

Also please suggest some good leads for virtual internships under SC or Delhi HC advocates.

How did he become a VC in a NLU after these allegations? Clearly he had support and political patronage and managed to hide and suppress all kinds of allegations .

Merit and scholarship has taken a back seat at NUJS ,the incumbent Vc has managed to bring it to the levels of a Hazra Law College of the 80-90s or Law Department of Burdawan University or a KIIT Law school or even perhaps a Hoogly Mohsin College.

From the hey days of Menon, Chimni and Singh to this.Its really regrettable.IIM Calcutta has never got influenced or pressured by the local State Govt or any other entities.NLUs should start looking at how IITs or IIMs are run and accordingly choose a managing model where there will be a better interface between industry and academic sans politics and people who have political agendas.

The money is no doubt lucrative. While I have very little knowledge about Mumbai, I have seen lawyers who do NCLT and DRT work in Delhi, Calcutta, and Madras earn alot - though they were seniors. Since I cannot comment about figures as I don't have them- I will not, but I'll say this - its very lucrative, everyone says so.

But I'll point out two issues with the same - if you solely do Tribunal practice, you will face the following:
1. Overdependence on the Tribunal and restricted scope of work - you may specialise and be the best there, but your scope of work is limited, and if someday the work order of the Tribunal changes, you'll be affected, like if the Tribunal is done away with and matters go to HCs/Civil Courts.
2. Being tagged a Tribunal lawyer and Senior Designation - being called/labelled a tribunal lawyer is frowned upon. Someone practising in HC/SC may be briefed in a matter in a Tribunal and while they may not have much knowledge, they'll earn their fees (which will be more than what they charge in the HC/SC/wherever they are practising) and steal the show, and second, senior designations are still based on the HC/SC practice. Very few tribunal lawyers get designated. So that risk is there.

When someone asks, I am taking Route A, to go from Y to Z, what are the places of interest, or why is the route infested with potholes, is it not the duty of anyone who is seeing that person asking the question, to tell them, that Route A is unsafe because there are gundas there, or alot of carjackers are there? It's someone's duty to mention the same. Similarly, that comment was an exercise to warn someone that the route they are taking is the incorrect one.

I get infuriated when someone says there is a 'salary' in litigation - sorry, there isn't.

Law is a profession. Litigation, of all career paths, is the only example of that - professionals charge 'fees' for their services. These professionals may have people working under and for them - commonly called chamber juniors. Only in Delhi do they have a practice, which IMO is the worst - where they pay the juniors and in most cases, don't allow them to take up matters on their own. Go to any other city, especially those with a chartered HC, they have a system where the junior charges his own fee from the client/solicitor - which not only grants them independence but also gives a sense of achievement. If you don't understand this feeling, it's fine, there aren't many who get it. Its not a parochial system so as to speak, but those who have been here - whether nepo or not, have appreciated it and considered it better since it allows for a healthy system of competition and growth. Hence, since these advocates, aka professionals, can charge fees, they don't have a salary. This so called industry standard may be in Delhi, but that's for there only with limited presence in other cities.

Second, yes, the earnings are low in the initial years. No doubt about that. But please appreciate - there is a tradeoff. Yes, you would rely on your parents money in the initial few years and earn peanuts, but after that gestation period is over, you will have no limits on how much you earn. Anyone decently successful in litigation earns more, if not equal to anyone in any other career path in law. You have a valid point on not wanting to earn peanuts after spending alot on college - but that was entirely your choice to go to a college which has such high fees, and second, to not want to trade off the low earnings in initial years for earning in crores later. Money aside, litigation is far better than any other career path in law - which other career path has made so many lawyers who are politicians, AGs/SGs/Judges, Senior Advocates, are people known to the commoners, and contribute to the development of law? You see money is said to be the only constraint in litigation - but that has been addressed - post gestation period, there is no limit to your earnings. Other than that - litigation in terms of the nature and scope of work, the respect in society, the other career paths it opens, cannot be matched by anything else in law.

I'm sorry, I cannot answer about DRT. But if it helps, I can answer on the fees charged by NCLT lawyers and NCLAT lawyers.

I am from a T1 city, and here, majority of those who go to DRT and NCLT primarily practice at the HC, and then go NCLT, again, for the two reasons I mentioned in the comment above. The fees for such tribunal's appearances are usually 1.5x of what they charge per appearance for a HC. As for the fee structure, a raw junior with less than a years' experience charges about 1000-1500 (please note that the Solicitors directly pay the junior, there is no so called 'salary' system) and that of an advocate who is independent with 5-10 years' experience is about 8000-20000 per appearance. The 20+ year experience ones and designated seniors obviously start from 50k and it goes to lakhs per appearance. This was for NCLT. I believe DRT would be the same.

For NCLAT, I can only speak of the designated seniors. Its easily 3-4 Lakh plus per appearance.

I'm sorry for not ordering them properly, i should have been more mindful of the fact that there are people who, after working 15 hours a day, would come and read it, and hence, I should have made my comment in a proper order.

On speculation - No. 6 entails a whole spectrum of different things - from working as a journalist to being a content creator. There is no way to comment on that. Any rational person would understand that.

On the part where you say there is no coherence - let me make it clear if you failed to understand - those in litigation cannot be considered to be out of work - you are in a profession - you go to courts/tribunals/forums/arbitrations, do conferences, etc. - that's your work. The volume may decrease, like it did during covid - and as such, the earnings would reduce, because hey, they are getting less matters to do. As for salaries - the sentence is clear and logically sound - there are no salaries in a profession, there are only fees - this is a basic Class 11 business studies knowledge. Even if someone did not take commerce, as someone who did a professional course, like your goodself, you should be able to understand and KNOW that. What does that have to do with a recession - as I clearly stated - that during times of economic crises, for someone who is a junior, they may have less work because of the crises and as such earn less

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This was extremely difficult to follow. You've listed out options 1 through 6 and have then proceeded to completely throw out the order (6, then 4, then 3 and 5).

Even your analysis makes no sense. You say No. 6 is "too broad" so you wouldn't want to speculate. Isn't the entirety of your answer...speculation? Besides, if you didn't want to speculate, why write about it in the first place?

Your line of reasoning has no coherence. You've said "[w]hile they will not be out of work, their earnings may reduce, but since its a profession, they have no salaries" in a single sentence. What does part A and B have to do with part C and D have to do with...a recession. What does anything have to do with anything.

I'm sorry, I've had a fifteen hour day and I was trying to scroll through LI to take a break before sleeping. Your answer broke me. I couldn't resist responding. I hope you're not a lawyer yet. Dear God.

Did you ask him about this, instead of throwing around buzz words? Don't know you personally so making a general comment. There's always an attempt made to coach but some people aren't good in receiving and implementing feedback, despite all proclamations of being open about feedback. And its genuinely tough. Also, have you been seeking feedback from PA/SAs you work with? Not all partners would have bandwidth and training associates is really a job for the PA and SAs.

In many ways. I shall address the nepotism part a little later.
1. Nature of work and Scope of Career Growth: Litigation, depending on any practice area, allows you to explore the nuances of the law in detail, argue the case for someone, or defend someone in say a losing case, and help contribute to the law and its growth. It is the reason why law is called a noble profession. Law firms, instead focus on work which are restricted to a set domain where you don't have any such serious application of mind and creativity, and mostly is monotonous in nature. On career, anyone successful in litigation has various doors which gets opened to him/her - empanelment, Judgeship, and the constitutional posts of AG/Adv General/etc. Of course, you also have senior designation coming their way. In law firms, you do nothing other than becoming a Partner.
2. Money - Yes, law firms usually pay much more, but that's true only for the first few years. Take any two similarly successful lawyers in a law firm and litigation - you will see the former outearning the latter by a huge margin in the initial years. However, 10-15 years down the line, that reverses. The counsels start outearning the partners. By a huge margin.
3. Nepotism - Law itself is a profession known for nepotism. Is nepotism now not there in other fields? Yes they are. Do they complain? Maybe, may be not. Irrelevant. However, you see the law firms are equally into nepotism since they are family run firms mainly and secondly, they would have someone coming from their family or have to please a client and hence bring in someone there. Litigation is a leveler - yes, nepotism gives a headstart - but they only help inthe initial years - you may get a chamber, may have money, may get clients/briefs - but, after a few years, if you, despite having all of these - still cannot work hard, you'll not succeed. So, despite the notion that nepo babies are lucky - which they are - they make their own careers. And it is not that every nepo baby has succeeded. There are multiple failures too. Obviously, names cannot be taken here, but you go to any court and ask around - you'll get answers.

1. How difficult is it to get in? Does he have any fixed number of juniors and takes a new one only when one of the current juniors leave the chamber?

2. How much does a junior in the chamber get paid? Does it go anywhere close to how much B&B reported?

3. Apart from data related and electricity matters, what other matters does Mr. Poovayya appear in? Is he looking to expand his subject base or is he specialising in niche?

4. What are the timings in the chamber? Cause if it as per How B&B reported it, it would be the most chill IMO.

5. What are the prospects of professional growth in the Chambers?

6.How is he as a mentor?