Respect!🫡 Chad!

Reinforces that STEM is the way to go to make a lot of money young. Finance and MBA too. Don't think law comes close. We really need to reform the Indian legal system and give young lawyers more opportunities to make it big. They won't make as much money as Silicon Valley bros, but let them at least make enough to own a Merc and a good apartment by age 30/35?

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/who-is-aravind-srinivas-youngest-billionaire-on-hurun-india-rich-list-2025-9377349?pfrom=home-ndtv_topstories

I fail to understand what is keeping all these seniors partners from leaving this place. Do they have no dignity? No self worth or self esteem?

Why are they tolerating all this BS when they can very easily step out.

Mumbai office is entirely being run by BJ and his partners. All he need to do is to dissociate himself from S&P and rename the office from S&P to J&P. I'm certain almost all Mumbai partners, entire admin team, and even some Delhi partners will stick with him instead of staying back at S&P.

Reason: He actually has clients (and good ones). He has the business mindset, he knows how to generate revenue and despite being so senior, he always treats even his juniormost associates professionally and with respect. MS on the other side, doesn't even respect the senior partners. He thinks everyone is his slave.

At this point, it's kinda embarrassing to tell anyone that we work at S&P, after all that Legally speaking fiasco and now this. He never learns from his mistakes.

@BJ - this is my genuine advise and request that you break out and make your own firm. Nothing needs to be changed, except the name of the office. Entire staff, entire team, everyone is going to stay with you. You just need to take this bold step.

Cant understand why this comes as a surprise to anyone in this firm. This place has been being run in same fashion since its inception. Unlike most promoter drive law firms, books at this place are not driven by client of the promoter because there are none. Except for Banking and M&A team, entire firm is a place being managed for the promoter to satisfy his ego being a lawyer and a law firm promoter. He has provided a platform, but no revenue stream is being offered from the promoters side

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Yes, it's the bitter truth. You guys lack either the grades or the networks or the money to go abroad, be it for work or study. Hence the constant hate comments and sarcasm against people who do. Even Sudhir Krishnaswamy is not spared! Your lack of academic achievement or wealth or privilege is making you toxic and jealous, when what you should be doing is trying to look at constructive ways in which you can succeed in India. There are enough lawyers with only a local LLB who have done well. You are also welcome to augment your LLB with an MBA from an IIM or ISB, if you have the drive and ambition. Or try for UPSC or judicial services.

Shed the constant negativity. It's not good for your physical or mental health. Think positive and you too will be happy and successful.

If you have already had a good legal education already then it won't make you better at legal analysis (debatable how much it would help even if you have had a poor education). Would be good for networking I suppose and would also be a good addition to your CV if you want to litigate in the UK. However, in India it really won't be of much use besides signalling your privilege. May help you to get into the chambers of senior advocates but you can do that even without a BCL.

One thing is abundantly clear. NKC wasn't gheraoed. He embraced, marched rt into it and with Four Horsemen and their aides he outsmarted the hapless students and their shadowy faculty advisors. The latter till recently had a rosy relationship with NKC. How could students miss all that? Then again they trusted the SJA. Shouldn't the GB make SJA pay the price for their trickery?

The SJA has already failed the GB multiple times by failing to produce evidence of wrongdoing by the VC. They squandered their opportunity in the GC and then tried to wing it by organising meaningless protests. Now no one takes us seriously. We have become a laughing stock. All thanks to SJA.

If we truly want to go after a rotten system (and not just an individual) then we need to cancel SJA from the equation. It serves the interest of ▮▮▮ who have a cozy relationship with the powers that be. ▮▮▮.

look at the Academic council of NUJS. Bulk of them are insiders :https://www.nujs.edu/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/AC_new.pdf

barring SKD and Sinha the rest of the outsiders are are people who are hardly known.

may be the deteriorating academic standards are a product of the quality of insiders the place has.

Not Sudhir, the troll calls him "Messiah". Also belittles everything Sudhir has done and says his new NLU alumni faculty hires are "privileged", "overrated", "savarna" etc. Thankfully, people have now reognised this troll's BS for what it is.

Waiting for the resident, pro-admin propagandist on LI to post something along these lines:

"We don't need Oxford-educated judges like Ruma Pal, or sophisticated lawyers like KKV on the governing body. We are happy with non-fancy, local people like Kalyan Banerjee and Sanjay Basu. Also, MP Singh is overrated, Sudhir is overrated etc etc.."

https://legalmaestros.com/current-legal-update/nujs-vc-prof-nk-chakrabarti-under-fire-sexual-harassment-case-quashed-but-students-demand-resignation/

Okay, so who is this guy? NKC should definitely do something about this? And notice how the surnames change in the same article?

Then again if NKC did look like this would things have been more.....

While NKC goes for a phased media campaign to counter student propaganda, the SJA remains engaged in thumb twiddling and making and making laughable threats. The GB cannot even throw these charlatans out despite the failure to produce the much hyped documents that conclusively prove financial wrongdoing by NKC. How abt getting the recently graduated Prez and her beau (VP) to come clean on accounts and details of IOU traffic with NKC?

A GB full of headless chickens and sheep is feast for the Lecters in SJA, faculty and admin ranks. On Oct 16 when the EC will do zilch and the VC will throw a few morsels to SJA for onward transmission to GB, then we will see how the planned student action begins from Nov 1.

NKC will not resign on Oct 16. He will be given an honourable exit. Even PIB got one and the illegality of SAK continuing as Registrar for years also did not get recorded in the minutes. Ofc it is a different matter what was verbally discussed and why SAK scooted.

It is time to disband the SJA.

So, after all the drama over Palestine, we are back to the age-old question of whether a university should teach theoretical humanities courses, or train people in skills suited to the job market. Sudhir Krishnaswamy was vocally in the favour of the former at the India Today Conclave, dismissing the IIT Delhi director's advocacy of skills training as promoting "a shallow version of craft". But Trump (like much of the right-wing globally) is pushing for skills training, to the point where Harvard will soon become a glorified polytechnic. Such training is obviously imparted without a critical thinking humanities foundation. But does that mean students will cease being political?

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/a-deal-with-harvard-university-is-close-trump-says

One - the bench wasn't led by DYC. Probably, he was junior most, I think.

Two - You aren't coming from a neutral space, you have a clearly biased view towards one side of the litigants and a possible fan worshipping for DYC.

And that's what all your statements are for.

Neither the one who made the post nor its commentators really went into the law. So I will do that, keeping other questions aside.

Curative petition can be filed on very limited grounds. The grounds to find it have to be found in the judgment, not by comments of its authors.

The intention of the legislature, for instance, has to be decided from the words in the statute, not a minister's address in the Parliament. (That's also one of the ways, but not the first way. )

If someone has to file curative, they'll have to find the grounds in the words of the judgment. Not in the words of the author given in the interview.

GNLU is sanghi and so they get rankings of higher marks each time and NUJS is the only NLU with human rights track and history. NIRF sabotages NUJS becuase of this one reason. GNLU is pro capitalism consumerism and so they are going up on perception score but NUJS is on the right side of humanity. Has anyone in GNLU ever held a pro palestine or lgbt protest? not even a chance.

"haven't ever" maybe work on the grammar first instead of making up arbitrary parameters? Has there been measurable societal impact from the research papers? How have you conducted a 1:1 mapping of faculty quality? What's the relevance of "non-law firm placement"? Hurts to see your legacy institute fade away in front of newer NLUs working their way up?

Buddy sorry you're clearly ill-informed about why Nakul became a KC. It was only for his int'l arbitration credentials in arbitrations based out of the UK - had nothing to do with his litigation or advisory practice, because he doesn't have any in the UK. Contrast this with GS's presence in the UK - the man barely does any arbitration based out of the UK, and will do even less of that now that he's moved to India (because of the non-dom abolition). Appreciate your confident answer, but it doesn't reflect any knowledge of how the KC application form looks like, or how the interview for a KC works.

I have been working as a legal consultant in for a real estate firm. One fine day one of my relative who works as a sales manager in a real estate firm, approaches me with a proposal to start a channel partner company (real estate broker). Thereafter, I started researching about it, I get to know that this is a typical percentage-based broker business having good returns after closing high value deals in city like Mumbai. Considering the factor that he is a leading sales manager and I being the real estate lawyer could be the perfect mix of leaders to start our Entrepreneural journey and scale it to unparallel heights through our skill, expertise and knowledge of real estate industry. After considering all the factors and risks involved I left me reputed legal profession and started as a sales manager with a view to gain some expertise in sales and marketing profile for one year before starting our own venture. After joining the job, I am now getting mixed feelings, not because I'm not doing good in it but because I feel the loss of dignity, respect and social status I use to have as a lawyer. My family and wife have gone against me. I feel now that I have downgraded my profile and made a wrong decision as I am sitting and surrounded by people who are much less educated than me and lack class and wisdom. Though I am a misfit here, the only thing keeping me going in this profile is my larger objective to start an entrepreneurial journey. In view of the aforesaid, I am now confused as to whether I should face the brunt and risks coming in path to become an entrepreneur or shall I get back to my legal dignified reputed legal profession and continue to climb a stable, risk-free, secure corporate ladder. Note-financial status is ok, not sound.

I am 36 years old, was working as an in-house legal consultant for one of the real-estate companies and earning decent enough. I have a relative almost of my age, working as a sales manager in one of the real estate firms. We work in the same city, one day he expressed his intention to start a channel partner (real estate-broker) business with me. After researching the broker industry in Mumbai and considering the high returns through percentage after closing deals, it seemed to me fair enough and coming together of leading sales manager and legal consultant both from a real-estate companies seem to me to be perfect mix of leaders to have a partnership and start our own venture and scale it to unparalleled heights by using the expertise, skills and knowledge we possess. After considering all this, I left my reputed legal profession and joined a real-estate sales job with a view to gain expertise in sales and marketing for one year before starting our own venture. Now it's getting difficult for me to adjust in this industry, not because I am not able to do well in it, but because I feel that I have downgraded my life and profile for money, the kind of respect and company I use to have in my profession is missing, I am feeling myself as a misfit in this industry and I am sitting with less educated people with no class, wisdom and knowledge. kindly advise me that whether I should bear the brunt of my decision as the larger goals set by my relative and me, if accomplished will eventually make my decision look right and make me successful entrepreneur or shall I get back to my profession for the sake of respect, dignity, job security and climb my corporate legal ladder for stable career growth.

Are these Legal AI Techbros and Sisters just selling Chatgpt / Claude wrappers as Legaltech AI?

To me it seems a lot of these old law firm partner uncles and aunties with FOMO are falling for verbose and fancy marketing and just buying wrappers of existing AI. Its like Xiaomi or Samsung charging a premium claiming that their OS is better, when fundamentally its just android with a skin aka theme with add ons.

I ask this because, one Techbro on my LinkedIn keeps yapping about his product's capabilities. And I always end up thinking to myself, what more can it do that a Claude or a Chatgpt or Deepseek can't do? Its just a question of the correct prompt. Are you paying a premium because your associates can't prompt? Its the same as not being able to use Westlaw and Manupatra.

I agree, you can train it on your law firm's database and make it use "Firm Formatting". But dear law firm uncle, do you know that you can self host an LLM which will keep your data safe AND DO THE SAME THING?? All for free!? i don't know what you're paying such a Bajillion premium dollars for.

I remember talking to a fellow some years back, his aim was to collect all law firm precedents - surreptitiously, and feed to his database and create his own AI tech. So, uncles be careful and make sure data sharing is ironclad. Get it audited and all.

Disclosure:

I'd like to say I haven't used any AI tech. But, I would also like to tell you that I am a seasoned corporate lawyer with about 9-10 PQE. I also am a tech "enthusiast", meaning at a basic level I can code SBCs like Arduino, esp32. I am comfortable with deploying linux servers, docker, self hosted softwares etc. I say this to let you know, that I do know my tech. I have been using Linux by myself since 2008.

Now, I also love Chatgpt, Deepseek, Claude etc., I use them a lot in daily life instead of google nowadays. I also use them to draft and find references etc.

Personally, I have not really used an AI Legal tool yet. I have found existing free options more than sufficient. Neither for drafting nor for legal research, it's unlikely that I will use it or need to use it in the future, given the trajectory of my life.

Here's the song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrBoTxdo36c

And here's the one by HNLU, sung by Shaan. https://www.legallyindia.com/lawschools/hnlu-raipur-gets-its-own-law-school-anthem-20180806-9484

Who wins? 🤣

IMO both have cringe lyrics and a weak melody. But the one by Jindal is in English and has classy instrumentation (sitar and tabla), whereas the one by HNLU is in Hindi with cheesy Bollywood sax and keyboard. Also, the Jindal singers are students, whereas the HNLU VC paid money to Shaan to sing, which led to student protests.🥲 So Jindal wins for better use of resources and better instrumentation?

another good example, this comment too is trollish. please examine your language and phrasing used, it is neither good Netiquette nor raises any actual bona fide counter arguments. we'll consider this case closed.

re OP, this has been discussed before: most RW vs LW vs blabla posts will be automatically marked trollish because they're usually off topic and not relevant or interesting to most readers, and are usually posted to provoke a flame war.

Define "foreign firm". UK firms in the UK have a relatively relaxed lifestyle. US firms in UK, slightly more heavier re: workload and BigLaw in the US (where i work), is extremely demanding, no work life balance and you're basically always on. This is for M&A (don't know about litigation or other specialist areas). UK has minimal visa issues. For US - just read the news, its clear.

The conditions in NUJS are very livable. The independence and freedom you get at NUJS is unlike any other NLU. There is so much to do here and the college is very culturally rich with alot of traditions. It is a completely student run campus which is honestly the best part of the college. Unlike other NLUs which feel like schools

Hi- I am having a glitch while filling the application form wherein someone else's documents are uploaded and address is added viz is not getting changed. I created a new application number still facing the same issue. FYI I saved my application and just payment was pending. Is anyone facing similar situation? Any idea how to get this corrected?

In the matter of my habitual actions, I, the undersigned, do hereby present the facts of a longstanding behavioral practice that has become deeply ingrained due to the exigencies of my living conditions.

Whereas, during my tenure at an institution of higher learning, I resided in a shared dormitory with communal bathroom facilities that were, in many instances, not subject to adequate maintenance or cleanliness standards. In light of these circumstances, I, in my capacity as a person seeking to maintain both hygiene and dignity, took measures to alleviate the discomfort caused by the unsanitary state of the aforementioned facilities.

Specifically, I engaged in the practice of disposing of certain bodily fluids in the basin, as this method was, at the time, the most reasonable and effective means to fulfill my physiological needs, given the prevailing conditions. This action, though initially performed out of necessity, has since evolved into a habitual behavior, carried over into subsequent living arrangements, including my tenure at a paying guest accommodation ("PG") and my current domicile.

Today, while engaged in a separate and unrelated activity (specifically, the consumption of food), I found myself once again executing this action, which I now refer to as a "milestone" in the continued existence of this routine. The act of liquid waste disposal, though performed without deliberate intent, has become a matter of reflexive action—an automatic response to a long-standing habit formed under specific environmental conditions.

While the action itself is not inherently damaging or unlawful, I hereby seek counsel on the appropriate course of action to terminate this persistent practice. I request insight into whether this behavior may be categorized as an "unlawful habit" or whether there exist any established psychological, behavioral, or rehabilitative methods for the cessation of such a deeply rooted routine.

Further, I am interested in determining whether such habitual conduct might be construed as a defense to negligence, should it ever come under scrutiny in a future scenario.

I await any expert opinions or precedents that may assist in resolving this matter.