1. Join another firm. There is a dearth of good people at the senior level. If your current firm isn't promoting you, some other firm will.

2-3. What do you mean by an equally successful litigator? An average first gen lawyer will not even come close to a salaried partner after 10 years of practice. Majority of first gen lawyers in litigation will still work under a senior or will just start their independent practice. Once you become a salaried partner, you slowly move towards building a book, it is tough and takes time. Unfortunately, not everyone can do it, similar to how it is for litigation as well.

4-5. Job satisfaction means different things for different people. It can come in the form of managing a team, ensuring that the deal you negotiated makes the client happy, or the contract you drafted, holds up in contract. I don't see why litigators glorify their work while diminishing the work of transaction lawyers. The work of a commercial litigator only comes in when a transaction lawyer has fucked up.

6-7. People have their own realities. Majority of the Senior Advocate positions are built on generational wealth. People who dont come from such background have no place in litigation. As you said, I can earn around a crore per annum without bringing in any business in law firms but I can't say the same about litigation. Clients don't come to you because you have done a superb job in some xyz case, they come to you because someone else has recommended you and that comes from generational connections which many of us lack. For us, earning over a crore per year, fulfilling all the childhood dreams and going on a foreign trip per year takes care of all the other negatives that you had just mentioned.

Now, you would say that we are dreaming too small. The answer is no. We are dreaming and targeting as per our realities. If you ask an IITian what he wants to do in future, he will probably say a job in Google and settling abroad is the main goal of his life. While for the Bill Gates' daughter, that is a reality that has been passed down by her father.

I agree with you on the T1, or even law firm structures being better. However, a few queries:
1. What would those who can't make it past SA/PA do? Leave firms, then what?
2. How is one even satisfied being a salaried partner and not bringing in business?
3. Sure, a salaried partner in a T1 would be earning 1cr a year [assuming everything in today's money]. An equally successful person in litigation would be earning perhaps 50-70% of it at that stage, and definitely much more than what that salaried partner, irrespective of whether he/she becomes a EP or not, would earn in 5-10 years. How can a salaried partner be happy with this? Any successful person in litigation at the same level would be outearning you.
4. How are people even satisfied in doing such clerical work for years at a stretch?
5. Even assuming that they are satisfied since it paid off their loans, or they actually like such clerical work, or they like the stability, or whatever, knowing that they are in a profession, and have become an EP, how are they even happy that their name is not on the wall?
6. Yes, correct - you become a partner, perhaps almost always a Salaried one in 10-12 years - wonderful. But sir, what after that? The road ends? Sure, one can become EP, become the head of the firm (like people head firms like EY) without having their name on the wall [only if its a family run firm, which is the case for most law firms in india, leading or not], but then what? You can't become a government counsel/AG/SG/Senior Advocate/Judge?
7. What are you even contributing? How are you even satisfied? Yes, you may close deals in M&A, but you are just a part of a larger DD. Yes, you may procure a license or advise them on some business deal. In disputes, perhaps yiu drafted something - but that got vetted by a Senior Advocate and their juniors, and definitely argued by someone else. Yes, you are contribuing to the society at large - but what contributions do you have towards law? afaik only a few certain heads of firms have become parts of govt set up committees, but that's it? In litigation atleast - your names are there in judgements and records - and your name goes down in law reports - for eternity to remember.

I genuinely want to know the answers. How are people even wanting to get into such T1 or in general such firms? Why? When you cannot have mental satisfaction and nobody would know you. Let it not be marked trollish, i seriously want to know why people want to choose clerical sectors like law firms which have all of these drawbacks.

He has also reproduced a report by the Anandabazar Patrika. Doing the math, AFAIK the TMC govt has also engaged people like Menaka G, Sanjoy Ghose, Suhaan Mukherji and of course Aquilaw and I think one of the Fox Mandal firms. Plus senior advocates in Cal HC and other people like Kalyan Bandopadhyay, Kunal Chatterjee etc. If AMS and Sibal charged 30 crores in all, does this mean all these others were paid from the remaining 70 crores? That’s a HUGE disparity! 2 people take 30% of the pot and the remaining 70% must be distributed among 20-30 people at least???

Any tea on this?

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=24813686121592858&id=100001344411545

In the early 1950s, while expanding his interests beyond pure science, Sarabhai set up the Ahmedabad Textile Industry's Research Association (ATIRA) to modernise India's textile sector. It was here that he first met Kamla Chowdhry. Vikram Sarabhai was married to Mrinalini Sarabhai when he met Kamla Chowdhry...According to Kakar's account, it was Sarabhai's desire to keep Kamla in Ahmedabad that led him to work towards establishing a management institute in the city. At that time, the Indian government and the Ford Foundation were exploring the idea of setting up institutions that could train managers for India's rapidly growing industries. Sarabhai seized this opportunity. Using his influence, his family's connections, and his persuasive intellect, he convinced both the Ford Foundation and the Government of India that Ahmedabad was the ideal location. Thus, IIM Ahmedabad, the country's second IIM after Calcutta, was born in 1961.Kamla Chowdhry became the institute's first faculty member and played a crucial role in shaping its culture and philosophy.

https://www.ndtv.com/lifestyle/how-vikram-sarabhai-affair-with-kamla-chowdhry-got-ahmedabad-indias-2nd-iim-9503723

Young and energetic team. Lot to learn. Since they are small, compensation may be not at par but enough to learn in a healthy environment. AZ has good law firm experience. Good for initial years of your career. They will encourage you to join bigger chamber or law firms if they see personal growth for you.

I have been offered an internship at both these firms. which one should I choose? I know on the fact of it LKS seems to be an obvious choice, but my topmost priority right now is to work with a firm with better chance of getting hired, and LKS does not have the best repute in that aspect.

Which firm is more likely to give me a permanent role?

On 23 October 2025, Gavai is in Bhutan.

On 14 May 2025, Gavai was appointed as the Chief Justice of India.

On 19 May, Gavai was in Mumbai.

In June 2025, Gavai went to the UK.

On 25 June, Gavai was felicitated at Amravati.

On 27 and 28 June, Gavai was felicitated at Nagpur.

Gavai was in Nagpur from 27 June to 3 July.

In first week of July, Gavai went to Mumbai.

On July 6, Gavai was in Kochi.

In the second week of July, Gavai went to Telengana.

In the last week of July, Gavai went to J&K.

On 2 August, Gavai was in Nagpur.

In the second week of August, Gavai went to Arunachal Pradesh.

On 17 August, Gavai was in Kolhapur.

In the 1st week of September, Gavai was in Nepal.

In the second week of September, Gavai went to Ranthambore.

On 27 September, Gavai was in Nashik.

In the 1st week of October, Gavai was in Mauritius

In the second week of October and on 11 October, Gavai was in Vietnam.

On 12 October, Gavai was in Mandangad and Ratnagiri.

None of the trips mentioned above were part of Gavai's duties as the Chief Justice. No wonder Collegium meetings are rushed, and no administrative reform in the Judiciary takes place.

A similar exercise for Chandrachud would be very illuminating.

I am a final year student at a T-1 NLU. I have, till now, only done corp internships and just one litigation internship in delhi which i really liked. I also sat for placements but no luck there, looking at the placement conditions everywhere. In my mind, I always had an idea that I would do litigation in the end but I just wanted to play safe which is why I wanted to pursue the corp side first.

I have no law bg in my family but have good connections in the city and my city has a HC as well. I’m not able to decide if I should go and learn the procedure and work in Delhi HC and District courts and then come back and work in my city or should I start from my city only?

1. Yogesh Pai's PhD thesis is one of the best in that area. (Standard essential patents)

2. Dr Saurabh's PhD thesis on sports law

3. There are few like Siddharth Chouhan who I haven't read but heard that they have done quite good work. Some are doing good work while doing PhD.

Avoid Abhinav, Armaan, and Ayush’s team. They are known to be robots with zero empathy when it comes to work.

The AZB culture is deeply ingrained in a tier 3 pay grade, which is unacceptable. This is why no one stays, and those who do are treated poorly (I’ve personally seen this happen). They lack the ability to even communicate properly. Save yourself and consider your options if you have them.

People from generational wealth don't work at Indian law firms. It's simply not worth their time socially or economicaly. Infact only in very few cases children of senior partners join law firms (unless it is their family's firm, but even then numbers are dwindling). Law firm work, in most cases, is mind numbing, intellectually unchallenging and most importantly, extremely time consuming, none of which would attract those inheriting real wealth. Hence law firms are occupied by middle class people only, who try to show off their tiny money on random pseudo luxurious items (watches, cars, shoes, etc).

Don't forget the beemer. Very sad that Lokpal got the bad press. But it was all DYC. He heard abt Beemer, Mercs on campus here. Saw more at Jiggles. Then the entire pride-envy thing happened.

But why single out the head of the cartel. There are many others as well including a Prof who got reported to the EC by NKC but later given an off ramp. Another AssP who protests too much. Got reported for truancy etc to the EC which ordered that increments, promotions etc be held up. So the self claimed anti-Empire protestor hit back by flunking or scaring a good chunk of students.

So don't let the beemer be a distraction. ▮▮▮ and gang shouldn't croon given their truancy.

why isn't SJA taking up the issue of alleged ▮▮▮ by certain faculty members? ▮▮▮.

Why are ▮▮▮, ▮▮▮ keeping quiet abt the cases that ▮▮▮ ?

And what about substance abuse and SH on campus that NKC ▮▮▮ ▮▮▮ because it concerned connected parents of alleged perps?

There is also some litigation going on in Cal HC involving NKC and JG. But it was never reported or discussed in the EC. How is the SJA allowing NKC an honourable exit?

Is this part of some deal with the so called instigating teachers?

LI redacts savagely like God. But I agree that they were the Chosen of PIB. Also isn't that hint so obvious?

But now a new cabal will emerge and how they play with Four Horsemen to game OVN will be the thing to watch. OVN is no pushover and far smarter than the combine which will buzz around him. In near future he will bring in his Hands.

And if things go really bad for OVN here, there is IIULER Amravati or Goa

While I completely get your point, but with the advent of AI, I'm very sceptical about the job security. Even now, ChatGPT writes my assignments, my case briefs and other internship related work while also preparing notes for exams. Clearing UPSC would be the cure of all the problems, also, how hard could it even be? I'm knowledgeable, smart, good background, 1 year won't hurt right?

This is such an unhelpful and disappointing argument, repeated unthinkingly by so-called fighters for social justice.

1. The law field in India and in most other common law countries operates in English, to a great extent. Yes, there are niches for local language work like in local state district courts etc, but English is still very much needed. We aren't like Canada, where English and French are both official languages. Due to our cultural setup, we cannot have an Indian language declared as an official language or given official language status equivalent to French in Canada. Therefore, we need to follow Lee Kuan Yew's example in Singapore and increase, not decrease, the prominence given to English, especially for aspiring lawyers.

2. Therefore, it is the on-the-ground reality that applicants to read law at university are facing. These are, as far as learning the English language or dealing with English is concerned, pretty shitty. Most students with school-leaving qualifications from Indian exam boards do not know how to structure, let alone write, an essay, construct a coherent argument, conduct a rigorous literary analysis... none of the techniques and skills in the social sciences and humanities that good educational systems consider necessary. A similar story applies to the sciences to the extent that students learn them at school, or why would the JEE curriculum be considered as advanced even compared to school? An Indian school-level history student, if given a proposition like factor x was more important to the rise to power of Hitler than factor y would, even if she had learned about Weimar Germany and the Nazi regime in the class, not be able to come up with a very good response, either in favour of, or against, such a proposition, because the buck stops at memorising the facts, rather than teaching people what to do with them! We all know this: school-level English literature and/or history exams look much more like comprehension/tasks of simple fact regurgitation, than any level of critical thinking or analysis. Such a thing should be within the capability of a five-year-old (and AI), not an 18-year-old! The School Review Commission for NLSIU, composed of three of the world's foremost legal academics, pointed this out in their report as a difficulty NLS is facing - with students of certain backgrounds having to be taught essay writing from the ground up, whereas those from others, very simply, don't. Change this reality first, and then we'll be in a far better position.

3. One way to pressure exam boards to change is for universities to play hardball. For a good university like a top five NLU to be brave enough to stand up in front of them and say, "Yo mate, your standards are fucked up, so I am re-designing the playing-field" would be the principled thing to do. When the exam boards feel the pressure that the good universities in our own country are operating at a level we aren't preparing the students for, that's when, IMV, things will begin to change. You can have as many students as you want going to foreign universities at postgrad or, nowadays, even undergrad, and then saying that school educational standards in our country for humanities and social sciences are, to an extent, at the bottom of the drain. However, that ain't gonna influence nobody, until we start operating like the systems we want to get ahead of.

bonus 10% variable for freshers, but mostly people get at least 70% of it, could be more depending on performance. 20% bonus from A2. insurance upto 10 lakhs. 10% TDS deduction, you will get the full refund at the end of ITR assuming you hvae no other income and don't cross the thresholds.

Getting worse by the day!

https://www.indiatoday.in/amp/trending-news/story/air-india-youtuber-mahinergy-threatened-woman-passenger-not-speaking-marathi-mumbai-flight-badtameezi-2807538-2025-10-24

I had mailed them last month for a december internship, HR replied saying my application has been noted, and they would revert in November if they decide to take me up for the virtual interview round.

tbh, that's quite late, and I now already have an internship for the month :/

I was in your position three years ago. I completed my undergraduate degree from a lesser-known college and aspired to work in the corporate teams of a law firm. To increase my chances, I decided to pursue an LL.M. from an NLU (Top 5).

Fast-forward to today - I am working in the transactions team of a Tier-2, pan-India law firm.

Now, did my LL.M. or the NLU brand directly help me get this job? Absolutely not.

Law firms do not hire from LL.M. batches through campus placements. I’ve been at an NLU, and I have close friends from SLS and JGU - we all started with the same expectation.

However, what my LL.M. did give me was clarity, it helped me understand what skills and knowledge I needed to be employable.

So,

7. If your intention is to learn, build strong fundamentals, and genuinely become good in your chosen field, then an LL.M. from an NLU, SLS, or JGU is an excellent opportunity.
8. But if you’re expecting that law firms will come to campus to hire LL.M. students, that is unlikely to happen.

Hi,
I’m currently pursuing my BA LLB and considering doing an LLM after graduation, preferably from an NLU in India. However, I’ve often heard people say that an LLM doesn’t really add much value in the Indian job market unless you’re planning to go into academia.

I wanted to understand from people who’ve actually done it or work in the field. What do hiring and job prospects really look like for someone with an LLM from a reputed Indian university (especially an NLU)? Does it make a tangible difference in terms of career growth, pay, or opportunities in law firms or corporate roles?

Basically, what benefits (if any) does it add for someone who isn’t looking to teach but wants to strengthen their professional profile?

Would love to hear your experiences or insights.

OP here.....

https://www.deloitte.com/content/dam/assets-zone1/in/en/docs/services/risk-regulatory-forensic/in-rrf-indian-digital-forensic-market-report.pdf

beware this is mostly going to be ranting so sorry in advance for that ~

I have always been a good student, and good as in the top 5 of my batch. But ever since I stepped foot in an NLU, everything vanished. I have no identity of my own, got average marks in midsems, scared as hell for my first ever moot and already know I am going to get average marks in endsems as well. I already know how mediocre and average the next 5 years of my law school are going to look like because if I compare myself with others in my batch, there are people who somehow are acing literally every single thing they do, how is that even possible? I've been living in anxiety and paranoia for so long it has already had an affect on my physical health. My main point is how do I be ok with mediocrity after the kind of performance I used to pull during my school days? Even better, how do I pull myself up to the standard of these people, because everyday I wake up scared to go to classes and sleep, crying my eyes out. I need to know whether this feeling persists or does it ever change. How do I prepare myself for "average-ness" for the next 5 years and simultaneously not meeting my parents expectations?

Hi, I'm assuming you have a Mac and Ipad, and an android phone. Have you encountered any difficulties with regards to the transfering of files, or dealing with work matters, when dealing between the 3 devices? OP here. Since I'd have only my Ipad as an apple ecosystem device, and someone commented here that Liquidtext is supported on windows, I think I might continue with my current windows laptop. But honestly, would I be facing any issues? I think i might eventually change to the entire apple ecoystem, but before that, my concern is if i'd face any issues, nothing else. Money is not that great of an issue [to buy a Mac and an Iphone], but I don't want to unneccesarily splurge on something which may not be neccessarily required.