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https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/a-deal-with-harvard-university-is-close-trump-says
Probably all people here who are saying GNLU is better is most likely from GNLU.
To me it seems a lot of these old law firm partner uncles and aunties with FOMO are falling for verbose and fancy marketing and just buying wrappers of existing AI. Its like Xiaomi or Samsung charging a premium claiming that their OS is better, when fundamentally its just android with a skin aka theme with add ons.
I ask this because, one Techbro on my LinkedIn keeps yapping about his product's capabilities. And I always end up thinking to myself, what more can it do that a Claude or a Chatgpt or Deepseek can't do? Its just a question of the correct prompt. Are you paying a premium because your associates can't prompt? Its the same as not being able to use Westlaw and Manupatra.
I agree, you can train it on your law firm's database and make it use "Firm Formatting". But dear law firm uncle, do you know that you can self host an LLM which will keep your data safe AND DO THE SAME THING?? All for free!? i don't know what you're paying such a Bajillion premium dollars for.
I remember talking to a fellow some years back, his aim was to collect all law firm precedents - surreptitiously, and feed to his database and create his own AI tech. So, uncles be careful and make sure data sharing is ironclad. Get it audited and all.
Disclosure:
I'd like to say I haven't used any AI tech. But, I would also like to tell you that I am a seasoned corporate lawyer with about 9-10 PQE. I also am a tech "enthusiast", meaning at a basic level I can code SBCs like Arduino, esp32. I am comfortable with deploying linux servers, docker, self hosted softwares etc. I say this to let you know, that I do know my tech. I have been using Linux by myself since 2008.
Now, I also love Chatgpt, Deepseek, Claude etc., I use them a lot in daily life instead of google nowadays. I also use them to draft and find references etc.
Personally, I have not really used an AI Legal tool yet. I have found existing free options more than sufficient. Neither for drafting nor for legal research, it's unlikely that I will use it or need to use it in the future, given the trajectory of my life.
Secondly, MoGo was a youth Congress activist in his student days and later headed the Congress-aligned think tank the Rajiv Gandhi Foundation. Also close to RaGa. Google and check it out.
MoGo 🤝 RaGa.
"We don't need Oxford-educated judges like Ruma Pal, or sophisticated lawyers like KKV on the governing body. We are happy with non-fancy, local people like Kalyan Banerjee and Sanjay Basu. Also, MP Singh is overrated, Sudhir is overrated etc etc.."
Okay, so who is this guy? NKC should definitely do something about this? And notice how the surnames change in the same article?
Then again if NKC did look like this would things have been more.....
A GB full of headless chickens and sheep is feast for the Lecters in SJA, faculty and admin ranks. On Oct 16 when the EC will do zilch and the VC will throw a few morsels to SJA for onward transmission to GB, then we will see how the planned student action begins from Nov 1.
NKC will not resign on Oct 16. He will be given an honourable exit. Even PIB got one and the illegality of SAK continuing as Registrar for years also did not get recorded in the minutes. Ofc it is a different matter what was verbally discussed and why SAK scooted.
It is time to disband the SJA.
The big question is where is the much promised smoking gun? Does SJA have it? Show it or resign en masse. Doesn't matter which faculty hearsay was acted upon. Out the faculty too.
And here's the one by HNLU, sung by Shaan. https://www.legallyindia.com/lawschools/hnlu-raipur-gets-its-own-law-school-anthem-20180806-9484
Who wins? 🤣
IMO both have cringe lyrics and a weak melody. But the one by Jindal is in English and has classy instrumentation (sitar and tabla), whereas the one by HNLU is in Hindi with cheesy Bollywood sax and keyboard. Also, the Jindal singers are students, whereas the HNLU VC paid money to Shaan to sing, which led to student protests.🥲 So Jindal wins for better use of resources and better instrumentation?
re OP, this has been discussed before: most RW vs LW vs blabla posts will be automatically marked trollish because they're usually off topic and not relevant or interesting to most readers, and are usually posted to provoke a flame war.
The SJA has already failed the GB multiple times by failing to produce evidence of wrongdoing by the VC. They squandered their opportunity in the GC and then tried to wing it by organising meaningless protests. Now no one takes us seriously. We have become a laughing stock. All thanks to SJA.
If we truly want to go after a rotten system (and not just an individual) then we need to cancel SJA from the equation. It serves the interest of ▮▮▮ who have a cozy relationship with the powers that be. ▮▮▮.
And when SC judge in the GC wanted evidence what did the SJA and the faculty do? I care abt the faculty as much they care about us. But SJA? They must pay the price of breaking out trust and making us run and look like headless chickens.
And now get to know that the headless chickens actually made 65 demands? Not that 47 demands made things sound or look better. Still what are these demands that couldn't even be mentioned in the media and not even when a student wrote on The Wire?
Where is the KO evidence? The lack of it clearly ensured that SJA was rightly fobbed off by the GC and now VC feels confident to organise interviews and dog whistle threats. He had indicated similarly through brief statements to Indian Express and TT.
Now the VC is unlikely to be given marching orders on Oct 16. So the farcical Oct 31 ultimatum of the SJA will fall flat. What then? Will it go against the EC? Will SJA litigate in Cal HC and SC esp when it cannot even produce the so called incriminating evidence before us; before GC; and before the media during the protests.
Kick out this SJA.
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Law is a profession. Litigation, of all career paths, is the only example of that - professionals charge 'fees' for their services. These professionals may have people working under and for them - commonly called chamber juniors. Only in Delhi do they have a practice, which IMO is the worst - where they pay the juniors and in most cases, don't allow them to take up matters on their own. Go to any other city, especially those with a chartered HC, they have a system where the junior charges his own fee from the client/solicitor - which not only grants them independence but also gives a sense of achievement. If you don't understand this feeling, it's fine, there aren't many who get it. Its not a parochial system so as to speak, but those who have been here - whether nepo or not, have appreciated it and considered it better since it allows for a healthy system of competition and growth. Hence, since these advocates, aka professionals, can charge fees, they don't have a salary. This so called industry standard may be in Delhi, but that's for there only with limited presence in other cities.
Second, yes, the earnings are low in the initial years. No doubt about that. But please appreciate - there is a tradeoff. Yes, you would rely on your parents money in the initial few years and earn peanuts, but after that gestation period is over, you will have no limits on how much you earn. Anyone decently successful in litigation earns more, if not equal to anyone in any other career path in law. You have a valid point on not wanting to earn peanuts after spending alot on college - but that was entirely your choice to go to a college which has such high fees, and second, to not want to trade off the low earnings in initial years for earning in crores later. Money aside, litigation is far better than any other career path in law - which other career path has made so many lawyers who are politicians, AGs/SGs/Judges, Senior Advocates, are people known to the commoners, and contribute to the development of law? You see money is said to be the only constraint in litigation - but that has been addressed - post gestation period, there is no limit to your earnings. Other than that - litigation in terms of the nature and scope of work, the respect in society, the other career paths it opens, cannot be matched by anything else in law.
Whereas, during my tenure at an institution of higher learning, I resided in a shared dormitory with communal bathroom facilities that were, in many instances, not subject to adequate maintenance or cleanliness standards. In light of these circumstances, I, in my capacity as a person seeking to maintain both hygiene and dignity, took measures to alleviate the discomfort caused by the unsanitary state of the aforementioned facilities.
Specifically, I engaged in the practice of disposing of certain bodily fluids in the basin, as this method was, at the time, the most reasonable and effective means to fulfill my physiological needs, given the prevailing conditions. This action, though initially performed out of necessity, has since evolved into a habitual behavior, carried over into subsequent living arrangements, including my tenure at a paying guest accommodation ("PG") and my current domicile.
Today, while engaged in a separate and unrelated activity (specifically, the consumption of food), I found myself once again executing this action, which I now refer to as a "milestone" in the continued existence of this routine. The act of liquid waste disposal, though performed without deliberate intent, has become a matter of reflexive action—an automatic response to a long-standing habit formed under specific environmental conditions.
While the action itself is not inherently damaging or unlawful, I hereby seek counsel on the appropriate course of action to terminate this persistent practice. I request insight into whether this behavior may be categorized as an "unlawful habit" or whether there exist any established psychological, behavioral, or rehabilitative methods for the cessation of such a deeply rooted routine.
Further, I am interested in determining whether such habitual conduct might be construed as a defense to negligence, should it ever come under scrutiny in a future scenario.
I await any expert opinions or precedents that may assist in resolving this matter.
https://www.news18.com/business/real-estate/at-rs-500-crore-this-ultra-luxury-apartment-will-be-indias-costliest-ws-kl-9604238.html
https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/us-firms-to-consider-shifting-work-to-india-as-trump-hikes-h1-b-visa-fee-9369365?pfrom=home-ndtv_topscroll
Currently, I have a good CGPA, I am among the top 15 students in my batch and I have built a good CV. I am now in my 4th year with 3–4 upcoming Tier 1 internships. My concern is whether this incident will create a problem during background checks by firms. On my marksheet, that particular paper shows an "R" (which simply means Repeat).
I would really appreciate any advice on this.
Like, what all does work usually entail, how demanding can they be etc.
Also, can people do 2 virtual internships simultaneously? or can they do one virtual and one physical internship simultaneously? (asking in terms of feasibility)
Also please suggest some good leads for virtual internships under SC or Delhi HC advocates.
Merit and scholarship has taken a back seat at NUJS ,the incumbent Vc has managed to bring it to the levels of a Hazra Law College of the 80-90s or Law Department of Burdawan University or a KIIT Law school or even perhaps a Hoogly Mohsin College.
From the hey days of Menon, Chimni and Singh to this.Its really regrettable.IIM Calcutta has never got influenced or pressured by the local State Govt or any other entities.NLUs should start looking at how IITs or IIMs are run and accordingly choose a managing model where there will be a better interface between industry and academic sans politics and people who have political agendas.
But I'll point out two issues with the same - if you solely do Tribunal practice, you will face the following:
1. Overdependence on the Tribunal and restricted scope of work - you may specialise and be the best there, but your scope of work is limited, and if someday the work order of the Tribunal changes, you'll be affected, like if the Tribunal is done away with and matters go to HCs/Civil Courts.
2. Being tagged a Tribunal lawyer and Senior Designation - being called/labelled a tribunal lawyer is frowned upon. Someone practising in HC/SC may be briefed in a matter in a Tribunal and while they may not have much knowledge, they'll earn their fees (which will be more than what they charge in the HC/SC/wherever they are practising) and steal the show, and second, senior designations are still based on the HC/SC practice. Very few tribunal lawyers get designated. So that risk is there.