I'm sorry, I cannot answer about DRT. But if it helps, I can answer on the fees charged by NCLT lawyers and NCLAT lawyers.

I am from a T1 city, and here, majority of those who go to DRT and NCLT primarily practice at the HC, and then go NCLT, again, for the two reasons I mentioned in the comment above. The fees for such tribunal's appearances are usually 1.5x of what they charge per appearance for a HC. As for the fee structure, a raw junior with less than a years' experience charges about 1000-1500 (please note that the Solicitors directly pay the junior, there is no so called 'salary' system) and that of an advocate who is independent with 5-10 years' experience is about 8000-20000 per appearance. The 20+ year experience ones and designated seniors obviously start from 50k and it goes to lakhs per appearance. This was for NCLT. I believe DRT would be the same.

For NCLAT, I can only speak of the designated seniors. Its easily 3-4 Lakh plus per appearance.

I'm sorry for not ordering them properly, i should have been more mindful of the fact that there are people who, after working 15 hours a day, would come and read it, and hence, I should have made my comment in a proper order.

On speculation - No. 6 entails a whole spectrum of different things - from working as a journalist to being a content creator. There is no way to comment on that. Any rational person would understand that.

On the part where you say there is no coherence - let me make it clear if you failed to understand - those in litigation cannot be considered to be out of work - you are in a profession - you go to courts/tribunals/forums/arbitrations, do conferences, etc. - that's your work. The volume may decrease, like it did during covid - and as such, the earnings would reduce, because hey, they are getting less matters to do. As for salaries - the sentence is clear and logically sound - there are no salaries in a profession, there are only fees - this is a basic Class 11 business studies knowledge. Even if someone did not take commerce, as someone who did a professional course, like your goodself, you should be able to understand and KNOW that. What does that have to do with a recession - as I clearly stated - that during times of economic crises, for someone who is a junior, they may have less work because of the crises and as such earn less

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This was extremely difficult to follow. You've listed out options 1 through 6 and have then proceeded to completely throw out the order (6, then 4, then 3 and 5).

Even your analysis makes no sense. You say No. 6 is "too broad" so you wouldn't want to speculate. Isn't the entirety of your answer...speculation? Besides, if you didn't want to speculate, why write about it in the first place?

Your line of reasoning has no coherence. You've said "[w]hile they will not be out of work, their earnings may reduce, but since its a profession, they have no salaries" in a single sentence. What does part A and B have to do with part C and D have to do with...a recession. What does anything have to do with anything.

I'm sorry, I've had a fifteen hour day and I was trying to scroll through LI to take a break before sleeping. Your answer broke me. I couldn't resist responding. I hope you're not a lawyer yet. Dear God.

Did you ask him about this, instead of throwing around buzz words? Don't know you personally so making a general comment. There's always an attempt made to coach but some people aren't good in receiving and implementing feedback, despite all proclamations of being open about feedback. And its genuinely tough. Also, have you been seeking feedback from PA/SAs you work with? Not all partners would have bandwidth and training associates is really a job for the PA and SAs.

And so the cat comes out of the bag and gets set among the pigeons. Clearly those chanting SC intervention can stop because the SJA completely messed up. Justice DD already suspects that this student action was motivated and when he asked the SJA couldn't deliver with damning evidence against the VC. Why do you think VC had his horsemen around him despite the hue and cry? Because they knew the corner spot DD had taken and the farcical fight of SJA, which clearly had no good intentions. Now the CJ designate is expected for convocation and the VC has signalled his intention to depart. So now he will be given an honourable exit by the VC as if this was all churlish stuff instigated by certain faculty members, which isn't exactly untrue.

The VC issue is kinda settled. It is now time to scrutinize the role of SJA brass. They should all be thrown out en masse. Because they are charlatans and allowed known manipulators in the faculty to sabotage GB. Most importantly their heads should roll for not producing documents that conclusively prove allegations of financial mismanagement by NKC. Just like no one believes NKC, it is equally hard to believe that SJA wasn't his conniving partner and a beneficiary.

Clear from the interview that he will resign only until a new VC is appointed, to avoid the taint of forcible resignation. Around 30 days to go, so he will drag and delay. But even if he did resign now, his term is almost over. The students are 6 years too late in protesting. They should have protested on day 1, when he was appointed ahead of VCV.

I agree that nkc needs to leave. But your questions aren't relevant in this context for him to answer. He didn't form the search committee, EC did. Most EC members are nominees of external authorities, VC doesn't appoint them, so the blame lies with such authorities for lack of quality nominees. No NLU or any other Indian university involves alumni for faculty recruitment or admin policies either. NUJS isn't the exception, but very much the norm. It should be changed, yes, but not doing so is not the same as not doing one's job. There are plenty of things that the VC was supposed to do, but didn't. Talk about those.

Blindly reproduces his version and doesn’t give the student point of view. Also leaves out three crucial points:

1. Complete non-transparency in VC appointment. NLSIU’s VC appointment panel had KK Venugopal, MP Singh and the DYC. Why not here?

2. Why the NUJS governing body had eminent legal luminaries of national standing in the Left Front years but is today filled with mediocre TMC lackeys. People on the governing body during the Left Front years included KKV, Justice Ruma Pal, former SG Dipankar Gupta etc etc.

3. Non-involvement of alumni in college functioning and faculty recruitment.

It’s such a tragedy that Kian isn’t around any more! During his time, LI was an activist website that held VCs accountable.

https://www.barandbench.com/interviews/law-school-interviews/i-have-proof-of-instigation-under-fire-nujs-vice-chancellor-prof-nk-chakrabarti

In many ways. I shall address the nepotism part a little later.
1. Nature of work and Scope of Career Growth: Litigation, depending on any practice area, allows you to explore the nuances of the law in detail, argue the case for someone, or defend someone in say a losing case, and help contribute to the law and its growth. It is the reason why law is called a noble profession. Law firms, instead focus on work which are restricted to a set domain where you don't have any such serious application of mind and creativity, and mostly is monotonous in nature. On career, anyone successful in litigation has various doors which gets opened to him/her - empanelment, Judgeship, and the constitutional posts of AG/Adv General/etc. Of course, you also have senior designation coming their way. In law firms, you do nothing other than becoming a Partner.
2. Money - Yes, law firms usually pay much more, but that's true only for the first few years. Take any two similarly successful lawyers in a law firm and litigation - you will see the former outearning the latter by a huge margin in the initial years. However, 10-15 years down the line, that reverses. The counsels start outearning the partners. By a huge margin.
3. Nepotism - Law itself is a profession known for nepotism. Is nepotism now not there in other fields? Yes they are. Do they complain? Maybe, may be not. Irrelevant. However, you see the law firms are equally into nepotism since they are family run firms mainly and secondly, they would have someone coming from their family or have to please a client and hence bring in someone there. Litigation is a leveler - yes, nepotism gives a headstart - but they only help inthe initial years - you may get a chamber, may have money, may get clients/briefs - but, after a few years, if you, despite having all of these - still cannot work hard, you'll not succeed. So, despite the notion that nepo babies are lucky - which they are - they make their own careers. And it is not that every nepo baby has succeeded. There are multiple failures too. Obviously, names cannot be taken here, but you go to any court and ask around - you'll get answers.

As lawyers, we have to measure our words more than the others. Someone as senior as MS should factor that so more since a big part in running a law firm is to manage people (internal and external). Sometimes people get carried away while speaking and they don't realise what they have been saying. That shouldn't have been the case while writing this email.

Creates a very bad impression and will create only problems in future. It appears that he is looking at short term solutions and while doing so, he is aggravating the people who are actually bedrock of the firm.

Also just to add the owner himself never shows up on time. Dont think anyone would have seen him in office, barring very few exceptional days, ever at work before 1 pm or 2 pm. How about setting example from the top as his mail says! He can have important BD meetings outside work and not others, seriously! Who talks like that in today's times. This feudal mindset has to go

LNL was seperated with SP because owner of LNL used to remain at foreign location the whole time. Also because equity was locked with RKL. This equity was called 'dead-equity' by the very owner of SP, due to which SP was created.

Now as Legally India fraternity, we ask MS - Whether the person holding equity along with you, and is also a female partner (Gitunjuli Sharaf) - will abide by this policy?

If not, why she has a cabin next to you. Is this how a professional firm built?

Also, have the shame and decency to announce the bonus and increments on time before sending such bs emails.

This is nothing. I have seen several such policies in other firms in metropolitan cities, both the good ones and the bad ones. It only shows that these firms are nothing and will suck your blood for nothing - no career growth and nothing to reward you other than money - with no way to grow up. This is why litigation is much better - real work is done there and there is no concept of leaves - everyone is their own boss and can leave work and take a vacation whenever they want

Prof. Mohan Gopal’s remarks – https://www.livelaw.in/top-stories/justice-chandrachuds-comments-could-be-ground-to-file-curative-petition-against-ayodhya-judgment-professor-mohan-gopal-305529

My hot take: Justice D.Y. Chandrachud was neither reckless nor out of line - https://youtu.be/vOKMaOhc_5E

To claim otherwise is the intellectual equivalent of throwing mud in a monsoon—messy, pointless, and revealing of the thrower. Where I’d fault him is in choosing his interlocutors: engaging with click-bait artists is like pouring champagne into a gutter.

What really rankles the self-styled custodians of “secular harmony” is that the SC Constitution Bench led by Justice Chandrachud has punctured their balloon of duplicity. For decades, a cynical lobby fattened itself by keeping Ayodhya as a festering sore—an ATM for appeasement politics and an annuity for electoral blackmail. Now that a definitive judgment has cauterised the wound, they’re sulking like pickpockets deprived of a crowded bazaar.

Let’s be clear: this isn’t about constitutional niceties, it’s about the collapse of a cottage industry built on permanent discord. And the tragedy for these merchants of misery is that, this time, the shop has shut for good.

There is a single troll on LI who bears a grudge against Sudhir and obsessively posts hate comments against him. This person canvases for TLC VCs over NLU VCs for that reason.

Buddy, your propaganda ain’t gonna work. NUJS students and alumni unanimously want an NLU-alum VC. And yes, we would much rather have a “phoren” educated VC rather than one with a jugaad PhD from Hazra or North Bengal (the VC of the latter was arrested in connection with the West Bengal teacher recruitment scam).

For those looking to replace NKC with "NLUites" esp the "foren" silver tongued variety similar to Messiah lording somewhere south or some supposedly no-nonsense fellow up north and like; just don't get Damned. As with Hunger Games, the alternative to Prez Snow needn't be a bleeding heart. Look beyond the obvious and the sheen. Only an insider knows this place best at the moment. Any external candidate, will depend on the Four Horsemen and this vicious cycle will repeat. With each turn, the downward slide will acquire greater momentum till we end up in free fall. Only our skin is in play. So we must do what is in our best interests. Alumni, teachers etc all have their agendas and armchair punditry.

Do they matter? Also SJA has always been apolitical. Hopefully it will remain so going fwd. Also how does it matter who gives a like or tweet, where is the clinching evidence against NKC and his gang? Has the SJA gone off to sleep? How can GB just swallow the spiel of financial mismanagement without a shared of evidence that sticks? And SJA thinks it's farcical ultimatum will run on auto pilot?

NUJS also has an active student body, which often gets powerful enough to evict VCs. Shook up PIB intermittently during his first term and then evicted him early into second term. All this when the entire EC had unanimously gifted him a second term and he had full state and HC support. Maybe this time too the students will do it to NKC despite the reluctance of SJA.

1. About the difficulty in making partner in those kinds of firms, no doubt. Also no question about the "running at full capacity".

2. I think you know that the India part of this argument is not entirely true. The reality of how India works is that a lot of partnership sort of opportunities comes by licking the backsides of the right people and having the right contacts.

An (entry) equity partner at Indian law firm makes less money than a Senior Associate at a foreign law firm. Also, whether a salaries partner at Indian law firm is actually a partner or a glorified PA (we can debate about this but everyone knows).

If Partner tag is important for you, then yes please stay in India but if excellence, exposure, learning and real time growth is important, then there is no doubt.

JGLS students are no longer allowed to take more than 1 class off for Moot Courts. The previous policy allowed 3 days leave for memorial submission, and then leave for travel and the same. Mind you, the same applies for international moot courts, i.e. 1 leave per subject. How is this asking students to take their education seriously? The funding for the moot courts has also gone down, which used to be one of the biggest reasons to join JGLS. You pay exorbitant fees, but you get fully funded Moot Courts.

How are people supposed to do an assessment internship? (The student council is arguing heavily on this and should be changed, hopefully).

The marking scheme is being changed heavily; however, no consultation of the student base has been done in any manner. With more than 13 sections in a batch, the fluctuation of CGPA differing from classroom to classroom has been an issue. Some professors give inflated marks hoping to get good feedback (tlfq review), while other professors refuse to give anyone a perfect grade, believing it to be against their policy. This has led to CGPA becoming meaningless as a matter of comparison.

This problem is not present in NLU becuase of its small batch size but increasingly prominent in JGLS. DJ's solution? Bell Curve... Now you will see 6 students ONLY can get perfect grade while everyone else gets A+ for the good

1. How difficult is it to get in? Does he have any fixed number of juniors and takes a new one only when one of the current juniors leave the chamber?

2. How much does a junior in the chamber get paid? Does it go anywhere close to how much B&B reported?

3. Apart from data related and electricity matters, what other matters does Mr. Poovayya appear in? Is he looking to expand his subject base or is he specialising in niche?

4. What are the timings in the chamber? Cause if it as per How B&B reported it, it would be the most chill IMO.

5. What are the prospects of professional growth in the Chambers?

6.How is he as a mentor?

Nothing great on substance. Judges eye visibility for post retirement arbitrator appointments. Organising committee is another jamboree- same senior counsel and lawyers control who gets to be a part of the organising committee and who speaks what. You scratch my back and I scratch yours is very prevalent in this coterie. Foreign firms use this for visibility but the actual practising arbitration lawyers don’t really bother.

Your SA was absolutely correct. You see there are a few mistakes your SA made, and principally, two of them - one, to join a law firm, regardless if its a T1 or not, and second, to choose to continue there. Working at a law firm does not affect your skill sets at all - they remain stagnant, and you end up in an endless loop of doing the same work again and again. To choose to continue there - where you have to ask for leaves, have people to report to, be in a desk job, call yourself an "employee", doing a "job" after having done a professional course is nothing but sheer stupidity. Law is a very difficult profession, and the saying goes correctly - law is a jealous mistress. You make choices in life on the basis of the situation you are in. Say, you got really bad CLAT rank and have to choose between a T3 NLU or a private law college. You take a call on the basis of the situation you are in. The SA here made the mistake most bright people do - to work in a law firm knowing fully well that their career would stagnate in 10 years. They'll either be thrown out or continue to do the same thing again and again. Do litigation, you'll only face issues w money in the first few years, but thereafter the sky is the limit - you will be in a profession, you will be your own boss, and can charge as much as you want and work whenever you want while actually applying your mind.

So take more of it..,..,

Genz or whoever the fresh entrants are have a problem with “practice”. It takes time to learn something and acquire a skill which they have no patience to do. Since they want things faster they will probably leave the race, or end up doing things like fraudulent stuff more easily just get that A1 life!

I am very infuriated everytime I see people encouraging litigation. How can anyone who doesn't want to or cannot live on their Baap Ka Maal, earn a decent salary in litigation where the maximum amount these lawyers can pay is mere 20k aka the industry standard. Honestly it feels so unfair to spend 10lakhs in law school to not even get 6LPA

Lmfao, funny how I read this and knew everything was 100% true because it matches with my experience 100%, I hope this comment helps prevent this comment from being taken down because the Tatva Legally India manager flags it as contested and cries about the truth.

If that person actually does flag this and try to censor it like every other comment on how difficult t▮▮▮he ▮▮▮ please give the interns and students a chance to share their voice rather than running afraid from their legally india manager.

That’s generally the case with most in-house roles. Annual appraisals usually range between 10–15%, and if you’re already on a higher pay scale, it’s typically around 10%. The upside, however, is that by switching roles every 3–4 years, you can secure a 25–30% hike with each move.

Not everyone is looking to hire all the time. If you approach someone through a reference, they may sit down with you or speak with you on the phone as a favour to the person giving the reference. This does not mean that they are looking to hire someone at that moment. So really, you need to do a few of these interviews before you find someone who likes you and is looking to hire at the time. My advice would also be to ask the person who you interview you with for feedback or if they can possibly refer you to some other person who may be hireing.

There are definitely some good things about working in a law firm. The pay is steady, especially compared to starting out in litigation. At a young age, you can be financially independent and even support your family if needed. The learning in corporate law is structured—you get trained in processes, drafting styles, and deal management in a way that’s systematic. Exposure to big-ticket transactions is real—you may work on billion-dollar M&A, financing, or tech deals that shape industries. The network you build in firms—clients, foreign counsel, partners—can be valuable if you ever branch out later. The brand name of a top-tier firm on your CV can open doors globally, even if you decide to shift careers. That said, the drawbacks are equally real. At the end of the day, the work in most teams is repetitive—document review, diligence, mark-ups, and compliance drafting. Even negotiations, once the novelty wears off, follow a template. You are executing deals, but not really shaping the law or creating anything uniquely your own. Then comes the lifestyle. A 10- to 12-hour day is normal, nights and weekends often get swallowed, and boundaries are blurred. The pay is the justification, but it comes at the cost of health, time, and sometimes even personality. Many corporate lawyers will tell you they didn’t “choose” this life as much as got used to it, because the money made them too weary to imagine something else. And beyond the hours and the monotony, there’s also the fact that in firms, your name rarely matters. The credit sits with the firm or the partner. Even if you’ve slogged on a deal for weeks, no one outside will know your contribution. It’s a career path that gives financial stability but doesn’t necessarily give personal recognition.

Litigation, on the other hand, is a different kind of life. The money doesn’t come immediately, but the work is real, dynamic, and your own. You’re not boxed into clerical tasks—you draft, argue, interact with clients, and solve problems head-on. Every brief is new, every courtroom exchange is different, and every appearance builds your skills. You’re tested daily, not by the length of your working hours, but by the strength of your preparation and arguments. Most importantly, in litigation you build your own name. Clients come to you for your reputation, not to a firm logo. Over time, the financial rewards surpass what most corporate lawyers will see, but beyond the money, there’s the thrill, the independence, and the sense of ownership over your career. For anyone who can afford to invest two to three years in building a practice, litigation offers not just a job but a profession in the truest sense.

You did the correct thing. Please brace yourself for two things - one, the lesser pay in the initial years as compared to the law firm counterparts, and second, the success that you will have after a few years.

Litigation is not so rewarding in its intial years, but as has been said and proved time and again, it is much more intellectually rewarding, makes you well known in social circles, and gives you complete independence - everything that a corporate law firm does not provide, and where your career and skills would have stagnated because of the clerical nature of the work there.