I wish I had the money for it man, even if i started prep now due to my non math background I can probably get a tier 2 mba or a low end IIM where the loan will basically make my salary non existent and keep me unemployed for 3 years as i'll get admission next year and then 2 years of nothingness.

Just graduated from a T2 NLU. Let me give you some heads up - final semester is going to be f**ing disastrous w.r.to emotionally and psychologically.

Enjoy the time you have at the moment. It won't return. Life's going to be serious from that point onwards. But that's doesn't mean you can't have any fun. You would. But those would be on its own level.

I had a pretty happy ending but with a regret. When my whole batch was going through chaos, heartbreaks and all, I ended my part with a good note with everyone. Be it the people I hated, or I didn't knew, I made sure I spend the last days in the best possible manner to exist. I did. I forgot and forgave everyone. And thus ended it in such a way that my whole perception to my college life suddenly changed. And I longed, for it should not have ended so quickly.

When the Mahabharat ended, all the enimity, hatred, toxicity, badmouthing, anger, sadistic pleasures, competition, politics, and what not they all subdued. Suddenly they didn't matter anymore. Exactly the same feeling at the end of my college life I realised it. All those hate and toxicity they didn't matter anymore. All of my batchmates just felt like good friends at the end. It's just we got lost and busy with the flow of time, not realising what led ahead.

Does that mean I would love to meet my batchmates again? Mostly no.

Does that mean I would still be the good guy in their lives? May be.

Does that mean I would still try to be in contact with them? Definitely. In a way or another, life would come to a full circle. So why not be prepared for it.

Before ending this -

If given another chance to live the college life again, I wouldn't change anything. I would like to live the same life with those same set of batchmates and same set of friends again and again and again!

Note - experience like this won't be the same for everyone. It would change from perspective to perspective.

My friend, this is nothing uncommon. In fact, my view is that it is a sign of a healthy and growing (in the right direction) legal market. Read the Financial Times - concentrate on reading back issues over the last year or so. The number of headlines about how the London offices of U.S. law firms and their magic circle counterparts are engaged in "pay wars" for juniour talent crop up with such depressing regularity that the desire to scream when one sees another such headline is almost overwhelming.

Read Simon Kuper's book, 'Chums: How a Tiny Caste of Oxford Tories Took Over the UK'. Read especially chapter 17, where he points out that even if some aspects of the current social construct/order are not maintained, Oxford and Cambridge will have the advantage of age in beeing seen as top-class universities. Kuper's point can equally be applicable to India, with some variations: taking no sides, but a hypothetical example. NUJS, though a T1 according to many standards, could now be said to be declining toward the direction of T2, because of various nonsense happening there/related to it. Despite this, would any reasonable person advise against NUJS if you got in? I think not. Therefore, the point that Kuper illustrates - namely, that age is and will be a huge factor, other than a university's objective performance in various criteria - in peoples' perceptions still stands.

How do NLUs become Tier-1? What are some criteria, and what do the students have to do, alongside the administration? NLUJ and NLIU was established around the same time and became a Tier-1 despite not being in a relatively big city such as Hyderabad, Kolkata. While HNLU and NUALS, established just after a couple of years, is still considered a Tier-2 NLU.

GNLU was just in the right place at the right time to become a Tier-1 NLU.

NLUD was established much later in comparison, but ended up becoming a Tier-1 due to it’s locational advantage, while MNLU Mumbai doesn’t even it’s own campus yet, and is considered a favourite among aspirants due to the city factor.

Is all of this solely alumni and city factor, or is there more to it? (NLSIU can be excluded since it was the first “premier” law institution, established much earlier than it’s counterparts)

If yes, can current Tier-2/3 NLUs (i.e; NLUO, MNLU Nagpur, among others) become Tier-1 NLUs in the coming future if things go right for them?

I am really curious to know everyone’s opinion on this as it seemed like an interesting topic to me.

Sincerely

An Incoming Law Student.

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Classic question-deflection. This is textbook - putting words in people's mouths. Damn, the British have taught you that, have they? If so, they've done a good job - we must give them credit where credit's due!

The basis of this discussion is that those Indian students with the talent will get recruited by foreign law firms, usually in their London offices. The argument that is being made here is that there are plenty of very talented students who are missing out on a spot, despite deserving one. If there were just not enough places to give room for all the talent, then sure, that's fine. The conversation stops right there. But we must interrogate if there are unfair traps built into the system that create biases against Indian talent.

Why are you afraid of such scrutiny? Are you afraid that you may (unknowingly) have been the beneficiary of some inequity that may have allowed you to be successful, but not others? Remember, getting a university place or a covetted job or whatever, in no country, is purely and exclusively the result of merit, though in most robust systems, merit and talent play a gigantic part. A healthy sprinkling of luck and a deal of privilege (of various kinds) also play a part in all this. How much have those things benefitted you?

Hey bro,

No point going into TMT right now, I'd say focus on building your fundamentals first. Go to court with a good advocate and just help as much as you can, go to a firm and start figuring out how to contribute in a law firm setup. You can only be a good TMT intern once you're a good intern right?

It seems like SKDR has stuck again, and the NALSAR Students are up in arms about the extremely short notice about the Convo. The dates were announced on 30 June only.

Now, students are preparing a protest letter to the Chief Justice of India, and the SBC has refused to assist with convocation logistics in protest. The batch calls the move “unplanned, exclusionary, and disrespectful.”

depends on you and the firm entirely, but can be any of the following in the order of likelihood:

a. firm disregards the 1 pqe at the boutique firm and you start at a0 (sometimes at all t1 firms, depends on the boutique)

b. firm gives you a percentage increment on your previous salary (s/cam, kco do this at times)

c. firm brings you on at the a1 band (rare but ideal)

Which is more lucrative in nature I'm talking about monetary terms keeping in mind that GSTAT will become functional may be in next 6 months and the lucrative practice of CESTAT now only deals with fresh customs matter but customs matter will get you a very good fees too even though the volume is low ? So what's more lucrative IDT or DT

I request students not to discuss this issue in public and I request LI to please take down this topic. This is strictly an internal matter of the college. Please do not harm the reputation of the college like this, it will impact you as well during placements and LLM applications.

Hey, appreciate you bringing this up. When we mark something as “contested,” we’re not saying it’s false or that it doesn’t matter. It just means that, for now, we don’t have a solid enough way to verify it independently. That’s it.

We know that being in an anonymous space adds complexity. People share things in good faith, and community testimony absolutely matters. But sometimes, especially when topics get heated or political, we also have to think about how quickly misinformation can spread, sometimes unintentionally. So “contested” is our way of saying: this might be valid, but we need more to go on.

And you're right, our sources aren’t perfect. That’s why we don’t delete the content outright unless it’s provably false. “Contested” is more like a sticky note saying, "hey, double-check this before you go ahead with this."

Volume yes but not necessarily in terms of pay. Lots of NCLT matters are just for passing of orders wrt ROC compliance and most RPs will go for senior counsels. If you can carve your niche into NCLT/NCLAT you can easily earn 20-40k per matter as a relatively young litigator (In Tier 2 NCLT benches it would be lower). The actual money lies in NCLAT litigation fyi :))

A senior told me as he himself has been working in a botique firm in ncr that work life balance is 10 to 5 approx. And pay is not that bad. All I want is to have space for myself when I can not only enjoy my work but also do what my heart desires to read to watch movies and shows and anime and so many things. Is this true? He told me that this is the case in so many such firms. Do such places really exist?

ive noticed sam, cam, azb are very closed off. they dont really give a chance to just anyone, mostly people who apply there have both good cv's and referrals as well, so its okay makes sense. it is extremely difficult to crack, until and unless you have a golden cv and connections. even their hr's are very unhelpful, i get it since the sheer amount of daily applications is humanly impossible to go through. but is it possible to get good tier 1 firm internship (in delhi ncr) which is a little more open and flexible, willing to give freshers a chance. i have a good cv, few tier one internships, decent grades, but i feel like ive wasted a lot of time targeting the wrong firms.

can someone please help me with a good hitlist for internships where i can have a shot (tier one and upper tier 2 only) especially the ones with responsive hr's.

A0 (turning A1 in a month) at a T3 corp firm. Age - 25

T3 law school. Male.

I mostly listen to old school rock, metal, country music and some jazz.

My fav artists (in no particular order or category) -

1. The doors

2. Cream

3. Rolling stones

4. Led Zeppelin

5. Mandragora

6. System of the down

7. Limb bizkit

8. Korn

9. Slipknot

10. Metallica

11. Ozzy osbourne

12. Nirvana

13. Indian ocean

14. Blur

15. Metallica

16. Michael Jackson

17. Pink floyd

18. Aerosmith

19. ZZ top

20. Kiss

21. Megadeath

22. Tool

23. Rage against the machine

24. Black sabbath

25. AC/DC

26. Linkin park

The above are names I can recall at the moment otherwise the entire list is quite long.