Some teams have absurd attrition. It can't possibly be because everyone who joins such teams is incompetent. So what incentive do partners have to be better managers?

Side note: Why on earth doesn't Trilegal have management training for SAs and Counsels? They are, in effect, managing Associates and Senior Associates. For a forward thinking firm like Trilegal that has done quite a bit in other areas, this one seems like a no-brainer.

Hey, recently heard about personal remarks by HR on one of the retainers at ▮▮▮. “Lagta hai ki pit k aayi ho, but aaj kal ki padhi likhi ladkiyan to pati ko khud hi peet de”. Also “shadi k baad to kaafi dull lagne lagi ho, kajal ya eye liner to laga liya karo”

What’s happening in the small set-up?

Can anyone with experience answer my query please ?

Can our masters and PhD be in different subjects ? How will affect my academic career ?

If my LLM is in constitutional law and I want to pursue my PhD in public policy, is it acceptable?

Also, will I still get to teach in law Universities without a PhD in law ?

I have a LLM and NET, so will that be enough for NLUs, provided I have a PhD but not in law ?

Help ??!

The number of upvotes your post has received shows how much humanities-oriented this platform is.

Your comment would make a lot of sense in the year 2000. Today, things have changed. A generalist law degree (like a BA-LLB) followed by an LLM in a special area would make sense. Today, that differentiation is happening at the UG level itself. There is a reason why questions are being raised about having generalist civil service officers versus specialist ones. The need and demand for specialist roles are rising.

At the current moment, all top law colleges are managed and led by those who are products of the traditional BA-LLB-oriented thinking and approach; hence, they will resist change. For real transformation to happen, the current crop has to retire, and new law schools that are not bound by archaic thinking have to crop up. It is happening, and they are NOT going to be the state NLUs. Let's talk after 10 years. Sure. By then, it will be embarrassing to even say that one holds a BA-LLB degree.

This post should be marked as trollish.

Both Amit and Akhil have a top notch commercial litigation practice at DHC and SC.

It's probably that they are not that involved in political cases which becomes a good media masala unlike their father and they became seniors quite young, so KS not helping them seems hilarious.

Look, maybe Kapil wanted his kids to hustle on their own. Respect, honestly. Loads of high-achieving parents with evolved mindsets do this—think Bill Gates, Steve Jobs. Closer home, the Indian legal circuit has its own “no-nonsense, earn-your-stripes” success stories. Firms like JSA straight-up have anti-nepotism policies baked into their DNA. Even the OG legacy firms like CAM/SAM have managed to stay top-tier by not just playing the surname game—they’ve handed equity to the worthy and aced the art of parenting-meets-mentorship so their juniors actually earn their seat at the table.

Now coming to Gopal Sanks—LOL, comparing him to the Sibal Bros is apples and orangutans. The Sibals are swimming in the big-money stuff—commercial disputes, fat arbitration gigs, courtroom drama with corporate stakes. That’s not the SC’s usual vibe, btw. The Supreme Court is more into the aam janta space—public interest, policy, constitutional questions- and, yes - the occasional commercial appeal. Not where the money flows, but easier to enter if you’ve got, like, half a brain, a decent handle on English, and the holy trinity: unpaid work, a sponsor, and most critically—a GURU. Your ticket to the club is referrals, baby.

Gopal didn’t come from crorepati cash, but let’s not kid ourselves—he had elite privilege. Bureaucrat dad. KKV as his legal godfather. What he did have was serious drive—and he ran with it. That combo? Lethal. And that’s why he’s where he is.

GS is a purely Supreme Court lawyer, that does not mean he is being briefed in commercial matters - he appears in a lot of service and writ matters.

If anything both Akhil and Amit Sibal are doing both hardcore commercial matters before all Courts and Tribunals, and are probably earning more than GS.

PS - Earning more or working exclusively in the Supreme Court is no measure of success. My point is both GS and the Sibal brothers are doing well and are on similar levels - one can't compare

I know that the first is issued by the local authority while the latter by the Court.

In Mumbai most Advocates suggest to apply for Letters of Administration and not the Heirship certificate.

Can anyone please explain why is it so?

What is the practical difference between the two, and which would be more beneficial?

It is mid 2025 now.

Whats the Lit scene like in Chennai. specifically,

1. What are the starting salaries for freshers in the various law firms in chennai ?

2. What are the starting salries for freshers with senior counsels and independent lawyers in chennai ?

So I got a tier 1 , (not Nls or Nalsar) but I don't know why I don't have good feeling about it , maybe its far away from home and my parents are leaving or maybe I never really wanted to do law but just liked the concept of CLAT as an exam(I m a fool ik because I even took a drop for it)

please someone help me out with a fresh perspective

I was a dayz hire so I don't have first hand experience of this, but all the PPOs who I've talked to have said that they usually had confirmation/rejection within a week, with the average being about 3 days. This is for the bombay office, I have no clue if the timelines at other officers are different.

I'm from a "top three" uni myself and every single person I know from SLS, Christ etc who has managed to get even an internship alongside me at T1 firms, let alone placements, has done several months of internships at different firms ranging from T1 to T2 to local & boutique ones, across different areas of law coz they can't afford to be picky. Moreover, a lot of them need to do 6 month long post class internships to get placed unlike us who only need 1-2 internships or even just DayZ and post DayZ interviews to convert at a T1 firm. So maybe stop running your mouth about this and cooking stuff up; it's more likely that you have nothing while these kids have loads of internships (and just haven't filled out their LinkedIn or wtv).

Buddy, vague assurances of a PPO are NOT a PPO. Maybe should've kept your RCC in the loop or been clear about the steps from the beginning, demanding a PPO in writing which you confirm via email, and you wouldn't have been in this situation. Maybe learn about the process before trying to get others to fuck up their own PPOs by sitting for placements against express instructions of their firms, m'kay? 😘

No sorry, this doesn't make any sense. If you've actually got written confirmation that you are GIVEN A PPO (not some vague assurance that you might be considered or you will be interviewed for one), you're usually asked to respond to the same in writing CONFIRMING that you're ACCEPTING the same. Once you do so, you'll be bound not to sit for any other placements and if you do so, your PPO will be revoked. This is how it works at every T1 firm and with every college. So please don't come in here and try to mislead people saying "oh, don't trust the PPO offer, sit for other placements" because that's the procedure followed and can have disastrous consequences. Maybe blame yourself for miscommunications/misunderstandings about something this important, i.e. they never actually offered you a PPO in writing and just told you not to intern elsewhere?

Anyway, what are you even reaching out to them for once you have confirmed the PPO (i.e. what are they ghosting you about)? If it is about the internship, again, have never heard of anyone from a T1 uni being asked to do a rolling internship for a year. If it is about a one month internship or about location etc, maybe they need more time and they'll tell you a few months later. Have never heard of this happening to anyone else.

If you have mail confirmation, try getting in touch with the HR and see what they’re saying.

Perhaps try to get some information by asking an indirect confirmation like: “When will I approximately get to know regarding further joining details?” or “Will I be directly joining (X) Partner’s team itself?” to gauge the current status of the PPO if you can.

Hang in there though!

Does anyone know firms doing good competition law work that hire freshers, or people with less than a year PQE without contacts. I have a decent CV that shows I am interested in competition law with internships in the field and I am currently working with a boutique law firm (relatively unknown) in competition law as well. Does anyone have advice on how to go about making my CV more attractive for recruiters or firms that would hire without contacts?

Ramanathan and Vahanvati I would say, and for the commentary below since when is Desai & Diwanji boutique? Having interned at D&d's mumbai corp team I would recommend to go for something else if you have the opportunity you learn absolutely nothing at d&d as an intern and their hiring practice wrt to interns is dubious

"I am from a good college in Mumbai with a good CV"

= "I am from an allegedly good college in Mumbai with a good CV, but my college is not an NLU"

If the big day doesn't work for you, take NLSAT and try to get into NLS. Otherwise, go for litigation for now.

Kids, there's no easy way to say this - this profession in India was meant to consume a much much smaller number of lawyers that could meaningfully work and rise through the ranks to become future partners. I see it everyday - principal associates are regularly told to pack their bags. At that time you are what 31, 32? in any other profession you would be just starting out, finding your footing. Here? Complete eradication. I say this with zero malice, think about something else. Not because of AI, not because of pressure but because if you truly try to understand the depths of corporate law - the paying capacity of clients, the actual revenues of Indian law firms vs foreign law firms, the partner track as of TODAY - you would actually do much better literally in any other profession. Ask any principal associate or even retained partner and they will tell you the exact same thing.

Have interned in their Bengaluru office. If you got through reference, then you won't be getting any stipend exception being if you perform really well. Before the commencement of your internship, they ask for preferred practice area and will allot you accordingly. Also pro tip if you are looking for a ppo offer then please don't choose transaction team as your chances of getting ppo's are less there compared to other practice area. Hope this helps. Best of luck.

How many times did you fail CLAT? You seem to have some extraordinary grudge/feeling of hate against T1 Indian law firms that those who passed CLAT usually don't.

NB: To be clear about definitions, "[passing] CLAT" = "admission into T1 NLU", nothing more, nothing less.

Hi, I am an A0 at a Tier 1 law firm in Delhi. I have been working for a few months now and have participated in a few DDs as well. Since the past few weeks, I have been making so many mistakes, it’s eating me up from inside. I have been making small and big mistakes, both, even consecutive mistakes in the same matter at different points.

My seniors, including the partner I was working under, are nice people. I think that’s why, it feels worse disappointing them everytime. Moreover, I have been working hard, staying late in the office to get work done. However, that hasn’t helped me deliver a decent work product. As a result, I think, I haven’t been getting as much work either in the past week.

A few weeks ago, I thought I was getting a hang of everything and I was getting a lot of work, but now I don’t know how to proceed. A major part of me now thinks that this profession, because of it’s requirement to attention to detail, isn’t for me. I don’t even understand where my concentration goes or/and how I end up making an error. Also, I don’t feel like working, because I know that even with my best efforts, I am going to deliver a substandard work product. Even so, I like law and transactions in general. Part of me wants to be in the profession for whatever reason.

I need guidance as to how to proceed. I saw another post here on making a checklist. What should the checklist consist of? Is there anything else I can do to help myself? I am trying to take my work slow, but even then, I catch some things amiss on a re-read when the document has been sent out. After that, my morale reaches a low point and I don’t feel like working all over again. Because of this, I have been feeling very anxious as well, which was not a problem as much even when I was burdened with a lot of work.