You think that a technical degree will make you Mark Zuckerberg but that's for markets not education. Do you see Harvard inviting him to be president? Western technological thinkers learn philosophy and other key parts of humanity. They are not being trained mostly for BPO work or building what some Silicon Valley white boy wants. One or two of them make it to thinking spaces but those always learn the humanities. It's okay if you don't want to be a leader but law schools train leaders and thinkers and they need the humanities. Everything else they can learn on their own depending on what path they choose. Modern Indian civil services definitely do not want officers with their own ideas so of course they will look for BPO type people who will do what politicians and the peope funding them want.

A law school, as you rightly pointed out, is required to teach law. But that is the only thing you analysed correctly in your defensive and frankly, misguided written diarrhoea. In a bid to justify why a BA degree makes sense today in a world where a BA degree (absent an LLB degree along with it) is not going to get you any job, let alone a good job, you conflated an LLB degree with a BA-LLB degree. Your entire tirade against people with actual bachelor's degrees (and NO - BA is not a degree, and you cannot convince me otherwise despite 90% of this forum comprising of people with these degrees), Like B.Com, BBA, B.Sc. is very ill-founded too. As you would understand, a bachelor's degree equips you with skills, and not just knowledge. A lawyer with a bachelor's degree in say, B.Sc. will inherently possess a better grasp of fundamental logic which is so crucial for any lawyer to be able crystallise legal points and make arguments or draft crisp agreements or memos. While with a BA degree you can indulge in mental masturbation and feel better about having read Marx or some other old fart, it is not going to help you make an argument in court nor draft an agreement. But the fact of the matter is, that law school and the profession of law is agnostic to your bachelor's degree (even though some bachelor's courses may actually give you an edge in real life lawyering - but any hardworking lawyer can and will reach the same level with a bit of brains and hustle regardless of his/ her bachelor's degree). Where regulators have felt the need for a specific bachelor's degree for a specific area of law, they have mandated so - viz patent law. But you seriously cannot make an argument that BA degree is better than B.Sc. or BBA or B.Com or any other 'actual' degree, unless of course, if yourself are a BA graduate and lack the proper analytical skills which typically only 'actual' degrees develop in students.

Also, the argument that what has worked for 10 years doesn't need to be changed is also a faulty argument from the perspective of pure logic - something wrong can keep working for years but still be inefficient - doesn't mean that we shouldn't make our systems more efficient. You may have overlooked this while you were romancing Marx in your reveries while typing out whatever the hell that flowery BS you wrote.

Your comment has a lot of value, but I don't think BA is that relevant.

1. In practice, whatever you have learnt in law school plays a small role. It's how much you put in, how far are you able to grind it. In a normal bail application before Sessions Court, how far are theories of Marx or legal writings of Upendra Back relevant.

2. A lot of legal work is compliance work, be it law firms or be it companies. You have to ensure compliance with law. A friend tells me that a Tier 1 law firm charges a lakh for their PSU and give legal opinion based on US judgments that do t even cover Indian laws properly. Another friend's relative who is a bigshot also wasn't happy with NLS grads of a Tier 1 firm, because they were asked to do compliance and they were doing overcomplicating things.

3. The other side is also wrong that you need a BTech for complex IP cases. You are arguing your case before a judge who isn't an engineer. The questions are about law, no matter how complex the subject matter is. These judgments involve a lot of economics, true, but even that economics is of a very advanced level. Most of the IP cases are simple trademark disputes, something for which not much of science is required.

4. Ultimately, I feel both line of comments are missing the woods for the tree. As Cardozo had said, most cases are trivial cases where a bad man wants to know how he can remain within the law. For very niche things, where there is a demand for barely 25 lawyers in the country, you can't train all 2000 students in NLUs. Similarly, the BA subjects are hardly relevant in actual practice, unless you are among those 50 people who argue exclusively before Supreme Court. Students are mature enough, they can start directly with law, and the degree can be shortened to 4 years.

All you need is to clear the AIBE. As long as you do that your degree doesn't stop you from working full time. Sit for AIBE with 9th semester results and put your degree when you get it. Many colleges have delayed results and degrees specially with public universities.

Above comment is incorrect, trainee as a position is not dependent on your degree.

Assuming that you're a first gen lawyer, it will be a very tough transition to leave a T1 law firm (something that people will kill for) and go for a chamber practice (where you will be killed). Better to take a smaller pay cut and move to the disputes team of a lower tier law firm / litigation firm and start your litigation journey there.

Would it be advisable for professionals working in corporate law to pivot to another practice area such as real estate, intellectual property, or commercial contracts? Also, what is your opinion on starting an independent corporate legal practice after gaining around 3 years of experience?

In my final year, placements are coming. im from and avg nlu w avg marks and 8-9 decent internships in gencorp and disputes. im interested in disputes but i have no idea what that life will be like and i know that jobs are relatively easier to get in gencorp but might not be as interesting. i havent been able to gauge enough in my internships (as they generally only give research work to interns).

PLEASE HELP, absolutely any insight will be appreciated!!

Hey, final year student here, tier 2 nlu avg marks, with an intent to get into litigation in mumbai. PLEASE let me know of senior advocates who might be hiring/ offering assessment internships. would also appreciate if alternate paths to having a successful commercial litigation practice in mumbai are discussed here.

thanksss

I think your response is a bit premature and you need to take a step and calm down.

If this is jsa or for that matter any firm, in my experience at rcc, firms do not respond unless they need something from the college/student. A lot of them go awol until the very last minute. Take for example tri internships, once they confirm, unless an rcc member calls and follows up for whatever reason they do not get back to the student until the time of orientation. It's the same case for a lot of firms, sometimes they may not even pick up our calls and go completely awol, but in my experience they always pull up at the last second.

You still have a year left till you need to join, if you're from a t1, I'm assuming NLU, a lot of the rccs across the NLUs work similarly, they would either be looped into the ppo offer, or the ppo offer was routed through them, or if as the firm requested you to sit out the placements, rcc might've been involved in procuring the undertaking. If your rcc has failed to do any of the above, then frankly raise hell.

But first and foremost reach out to them and ask them to get in touch with the firm, firms often discourage students reaching out to them

some people in the firm seem to be nice but are extremely toxic and back biters even with one another. one of the associate also shifted all the blame on me and laughed about me being incompetent behind my back. just my opinion tho.

the partners are great mentors for sure. the deals are also very good (at least were when i was interning there)

why do people think they wont be found out, it's so obvious to spot AI generated english. and if people are ok sending AI generated stuff without making an effort humanising it, why are they afraid of speaking in hindi? either way we get to know that the person isnt proficient.

In just the last one year, Gsanks appeared in the Jet Insolvency for Jet, Byjus for an OC, and yesterday was a fantastic performance in the gaming and casino matters before Pardiwala. So you don't know what you are talking about if you say he doesn't do commercial matters. As for KKV being a godfather, that's true of many others who don't match up to Gopal as well - Parag Tripathi, Jaideep Gupta, Guru, Uttara, Liz are all from KKV chambers and all made senior. KKV did nothing special for Gopal

Coming to KS not promoting his sons, that's plain nonsense. As they started, Amit and Akhil had offices in Jor Bagh and Chanakyapuri. How do you think that happened? They both got designated very young, and even now Sibal has convinced Justice Varma to engage Amit to represent him in the impeachment.

Is it possible to switch from an in-house role at a tech start up to TMT teams at law firms or teams that deal with data privacy ? And is there anything that one could do that potentially increases their chances of successfully switching to such teams ? Or other data privacy focused roles in the legal industry ?

Can this be a ground for commuting a death sentence? I thought factors were age of the convicts and nature of the crime?

In the present case, the convicts seem to be in their 30s, looking at images being circulated in the media. The crime consisted of violently raping and murdering a child (including penetration with a bamboo stick).

https://www.barandbench.com/news/calcutta-high-court-commutes-death-sentence-of-two-men-convicted-for-rape-and-murder-of-5-year-old

As a first gen law student studying at a good NLU ( interested in taxation ) & might pursue LLM in International Taxation from an UK university, what is the scope of taxation law in India if I am intending towards getting into law firms,

Also in after 9-15 years of practice ( standard time to make partner in my research ), what are the challenges one faces while getting to that post of partner are there instances of people are working for years and still don't make that position?

Hi I am a a final year student, super close to day zero, I have a very weird varied experience in terms of internships, I have done Real-estate, Disputes, IPR, Corporate, Indirect Tax. all in tier-2 firms, I still remain very confused as to which area to choose, but the bigger question rn for me is that generally when companies come over for placements they look at a more streamlined CV, mines all over the place, so if they ask me something about it what do you think should be my best answer adding all of these experiences up ?

Legal sector liberalisation is excluded, right? SILF’s arguments were accepted? Too late for Gen X, Gen Y and early Gen Z to benefit anyway, but any hope of late Gen Z and Gen Alpha grads starting their careers in the Delhi offices of Clifford Chance etc? The last Gen Z batch enters law schools in 2026 and graduates in 2031, by my estimate. The first Gen Alpha batch enters in 2027 and graduates in 2032.

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/pm-narendra-modi-lands-in-uk-long-awaited-free-trade-deal-expected-today-10-points-8936421