Genuine Question - I am a senior associate at a tier 1 law firm and have been applying to job postings from various top companies - especially Google - for over three years now and it never proceeds - not even for an interview.

Any one have any idea on what basis they reject and whether it only works on the referral process and if you don’t have an in it’s not even worth applying.

Read up on Maharashtra Tenancy Act specifically focusing on Sections 32G, 32M, 43, 63, TOPA, DCPR Regulations, Hindu Succession Act, Maharashtra Land Revenue Code, Urban Ceiling Act, Stamp Act, Societies Act, Registration Act. Read up about conveyancing as well. Get a basic understanding of re-development of society, slum re-development, CIDCO Land, MIDC Land.

You should know the different types of revenue records, 7/12 extracts, Property Cards, mutations etc etc.

Since you're a fresher they won't ask you all these things in details but it's better if you know in case they decide to test you.

I genuinely do not understand comments or the general narrative that there is no “learning” in an in house job. What learning are they referring to really? As if law firms don’t have mundane and repetitive tasks. Not everyone in a law firm™️is doing something Earth shattering in the legal domain all day everyday. The pay is high due to the role being client facing, the pace of work, and the consequent pressure. But, work is work. It’s about an individual’s preference on what works best for them and what they choose to make peace with. Simple as that imo.

TLDR - You're stressing unnecessarily.

A. The job market isn't as bad as you make it sound.B. For a T1, freshers are (obviously) least expensive and hardly make too big an impact for them to withdraw offers.

C. The firms will get you and ensure you resign if it has to happen or fire you after probation. This is due to D.

D. It's a huge reputational issue for them to withdraw PPOs - law colleges looking at them differently + market impact for them to get freshers.

I am from NLUD'25 and many of us got placed after just 2-3 internships. Our placement figures are pathetic because many people with absolutely no interest/internship experience sat for placements and, as predicted, got nowhere, racking up the denominator. Also, we don't have anyone with "stints" at foreign law firms who did not get placed.

If you had actual vac schemes abroad, you would have either converted them or been snapped up by Indian firms by now. So, everyone knows your "stints" at foreign firms are probably just online stuff conducted by Forage, which is not taken seriously past the second year, or stuff like the A&O IFCC course or HSF's ILP. Maybe stop trying to market yourself so much to an audience which is not as idiotic as you assume, highlight 5-6 internships out of the 12 based on your contribution and learning, and you might get somewhere.

The thing is that i am very confused now if i should take nmims right now and do bballb degree for 5 years or do bba somewhere and then prep for clat pg alongside and give clat pg and then do llb for 3 years seperate. My friends and family are suggesting to just take nmims because doing it seperate will waste 1 year of my life and i am planning to do an llm abroad anyways so they are like just take nmims right now.

what do you think is the best? Clat pg (maybe get a t1nlu that way) or nmims right now?

I have been looking into tech law internships and came across Dialogue, CIS, Esya Centre, Koan Advisory, and SFLC. Would love to know which of these actually involve interns in meaningful work and not just research summaries or clerical stuff. Also, does Internet Freedom Foundation take 2nd years? I am genuinely interested in working with them and would appreciate any tips on how to strengthen my application or make the most of the internship experience.

PwC Mumbai has good DT lit team. IDT lit team is largely in NCR and some in Chennai and Mumbai. EY also has good team. KPMG was never that big in litigation nor Deloitte.

Generally the tax lit teams work as delivery teams for actual engagement teams. They draft, brief counsels etc. And in few cases, appear.

According to his academia.edu profile, the title of his Ph.D. thesis is 'Juridical Engagement With Electoral Reservations'. Those who have read the full draft are saying it is one of the best pieces of doctrinal legal research produced by a serving Indian law teacher in decades. The word is that he has had the full draft ready since the first half of 2022 but had a tough supervisor who has made him go through several revisions since then. I hope he sends it to a good publisher and does not waste his efforts as he did earlier with the report on the NLUs (sometime in 2018) and the extensive ghost-writing that he has done for judges and senior academics over the years. It is time for all that effort to bear fruit and for him to catch up with his immediate peers such as Arghya Sengupta, Madhav Khosla, Neha Mishra and Prashant Reddy, all of whom have published extensively over the last decade.

The law school hasn't done anything yet, it's just trolls like you which keep highlighting it by tagging it along for the forensic department's work. Why don't you mention a single good faculty member of the NFSU law school, the research that they have published, or the recognition that they have fetched? The only people displaying idiocy here are you, who don't have any clue about legal education.

Your comment is absolutely right. He was not getting BJP government briefs. Opposition governments in states were also preferring other lawyers. In any case, he was becoming completely partisan. As one comment rightly days, he will be AG if RaGa becomes PM in 2029. I wouldn’t even rule out President or Vice President, though a Rajya Sabha seat is more likely.

Two minutes silence for those who think Mumbai and Gurgaon are like New York and boast about buying 100 crore apartments at DLF Camelias. Also to those using titles like “Harvard of the East” for NLSIU.

Get real, guys. Asia is well ahead of India, with the exception of Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal etc.

Absolutely right, no doubt. The Indian cities are totally crap in this regard.

As for the other international cities, I'm a bit surprised that London is in the top five, having lived there myself. Don't get me wrong: it's a wonderful city, but on "affordability", the marks can't be high. It was only because I am disabled that I was allowed to live in on-campus, government-subsidised, housing at my university throughout my studies there. If you're not doing that, you're certainly paying a lot more. I'd personally have put London at 6 or 7 (or maybe even a little lower) because of that (but not willing to lower it to below top 10).

Top 5:

1. Seoul

2. Tokyo

3. London

4. Munich

5. Melbourne

Among other Asian cities, Singapore at 11, KL at 12, Beijing 13, Taipei 14, Hong Kong 17, Kyoto 18… and many more cities. Even Amman (Jordan) at 64.

In contrast:

Mumbai - 98

Delhi - 104

Bengaluru - 108

Chennai - 128

That’s it. No Pune, Hyderabad, Ahmedabad etc.

😭😭😭😭😭😭

Parameters used were:

- Student perception

- Student mix

- Presence of recruiters in the city

- Desirability

- Affordability

https://www.topuniversities.com/best-student-cities

C'mon we all know that they won't OPT for litigation but they'll HAVE TO do it coz they didn't intern and secure their chances of a job (not that it matters because these colleges aren't active enough to get companies to campus for hiring)- no one WANTS to to do litigation and work for peanuts except when you come from a family of lawyers

Women are not far more emotionally mature than men on account of any actual study, this feels a narrative perpetrated by predatory older men who are shunned and ignored by women their own age.

@OP, it's because senior guys are turned down by women their age/older than them, so they turn to the younger ones, leading to the cycle repeating ad infinitum.

For the older lawyers here, who all remember the sangeet dance gang at (what is now) CAM? Jog my memory - who all were in the Sangeet Gang? Initials can be dropped to avoid naming names.

How are they doing now? Did dancing for Small Daddy invite the benevolence of Big Daddy? How many of them ended up leaving for other pastures?

If I were a university leader from one of the IITs or IIMs, this sort of thing would snatch away a lot of my sleep. Many of the combinations you mentioned are distinctly unappealing:

- NUJS with IIM C or IIT KGP: Thanks, but no thanks. NUJS has enough nonsense of its own. A bonfire of academic standards has destroyed any semblance of its former glory. TMC has made enough of a mess with it.

- NLUO with IIT Bhubaneshwar: Heard NLUO VC is behaving in a very stupid way, pretending to implement "academic rigor" when there is actually nothing of the sort at that uni.

- RML (and NLU Prayagraj) with IIM Lucknow or IIT Kanpur: Both NLUs mentioned are very average universities. If I were IIT Kanpur, I wouldn’t want the baggage of these average-to-borderline-between-average-and-poor brand names hooked to me.

- TNNLU with IIT Madras: Same as above.

- MNLU (all three campuses) with IIT Bombay: Same point as the proposal re RML.

- NLU Sonipat with IIM Rohtak: Certainly not! Nobody has ever heard of “NLU Sonipat”, well I haven’t. Risk is too great.

- HPNLU with IIT Mandi: HPNLU isn’t even an attractive university for the state it is in, no. No. Ain’t happening.

Hey "buddy", if you've never been in the system please don't misguide.

I do not disagree with your comment, however promotions are not decided based on what we think is suitable or not for law. In the larger scheme of things, definitely scholars from across the world will respect your quality publications more. However, the promotions system and structure built is still a government job, and we know how that is. If it's not official, no matter how great the journal, it will not be counted.

Secondly, yes some journals are listed in Scopus. I never denied it. But the whole list isn't. And if some young acadmic is mistaken that by publishing in them will get work for them, then it unfortunately won't. So it's the onus on the acadmic to see to it that the list and Scopus match.

Thirdly, you are overestimating NLSs influence on the government. The government and its bodies hardly have any NLU alumni, let alone from NLS. The majority are from TLCs like DU, BHU etc. So even the legal community would not care as much, it's called TLC blackballing anything of significance NLUs do. Wait till the new list comes out, and you will find that majority of journals for promotion are going to be thrash, since the whole process is a nepotism favoured structure for the ruling govt.

Fourth, I am in no way demeaning a great initiative. I think for the younger academics it's a good initiative. However, I stress on the fact that it's not "official". It does not have the Central Govt, Ministry of Education or even UGCs approval. So the younglings should not take it as the end all and be all for publishing. It may help improve your credibility but since when has government promotions focused on credibility and quality.

Fifth, it's good for personal growth and development to publish in these journals. However at the end of the day, promotions are not dependable on quality, unfortunately. This govt is hellbent on discrediting anything with "quality". That all I stated.

Waah, Kya baat hai!!!! Look at the sheer scale of funding. State NLUs are not even aspiring to grow - they seem to be happy in their ditch and are content with that. The NLU-fixated junta on this platform is happy with its own rankings/tiers, engaging in endless and meaningless discussions around the same. There is not a single instance or example of transformational change that NLUs are bringing to the legal ecosystem. Every state is busy launching its own NLU and propagating mediocrity. The unfortunate part is that state NLUs are not even trying - neither students, alumni, faculty, nor the administration. Everyone is equally complicit in this failure.