I remember Jane Gardam's fictional character, the barrister whose real name was Sir Edward Feathers but who was known as "Old Filth", with "Filth" standing for "Failed in London, try Hong Kong" because of his move from London to Hong Kong during the time when the British still had an empire (minus India). Always loved the Gardam novels on Old Filth. Seeming like Gopal Subramanium's case is exactly the opposite of Old Filth? :)

He always wanted to reach the levels of Salve and Rohatgi but could not. So, he might have thought of getting out of this race which he was never going to win. Not everybody is going to reach the top of the profession.

Dave was one of the top seniors. He should lead his retired life with content.

The government is the biggest litigator in India and counsels make hundreds of crores representing them. But the BJP has denied central government briefs to pro-opposition lawyers, and instead give them to pro-BJP lawyers. At the state level, this has been done in states where the BJP is in power.

The only hope for pro-opposition lawyers is to get work from certain state governments where opposition parties are in power, like Karnataka, Telangana and West Bengal. But is this enough to sustain the pro-Congress ecosystem?

i dont mean to sound shady at all, but this is 100% true

atleast initially they make a great first impression (until and unless they are extremely bad)

they are well spoken and extremely polished

and being presentable is a big part of working in a corp firm, people really treat you differently otherwise

i’ve seen some very hardworking children not being able to make the cut because they don’t have command over english and dress shabbily.

(being kicked out for not being a “culture fit” is more common that one would like to admit, sly way of saying work on your appearance and your soft skills)

also, we don’t expect freshers to know everything, most of it is taught on the job, so after they’re recruited, they are pretty much all at the same level (brains wise atleast), from that moment onwards your soft skills do take you ahead w considerable amount

in a rather disheartening anecdote, i was told by a partner to not let one A0 sit in a big stakes meeting because of this very reason

i’d like to add this is not just a jindal thing, being polished and well spoken in general (regardless of your institution) gives you an edge, and a big one at that especially in big law

i’ve only interacted with freshers so can’t say about the long term impact but good first impressions, confident speaking and firm handshakes def make me remember their names

First of all how class is determinant of hardwork and dedication...

I believe that it totally depends on a person personality and vision which he or she see's for themselves....

And if you are deserving and passionate enough then definitely you will ace the process don't matter whether one is from jgnu or Jindal...

Law firms turns on screws that (mostly) does not take college into factor.

Getting in is the easier part, going up is not.

Your college may have contributive factor in getting you in, but getting clients, being net revenue positive is for the most part college agnostic.

Happy to be wrong.

He was above average at best. His main practice was in DHC. Used to brief seniors like Kapil Sibal. But slowly started getting his own cases because of political connections. He messed up Advani's case in Jain hawala dairies. So, BJP had to bring in Sibal as Advani's lawyer who also fighting for Jain brothers.

When he became ASG in 1989, Mukul Rohatgi had to beg DHC judges to make Jaitley a sr. which presents a sorry picture.

I think people should calm down with the GOAT talk. He was an excellent lawyer no doubt - just that we've had and we continue to have many excellent senior advocates. When you talk of GOAT, names like Nani, Seervai, Fali, MK Nambiar, Daphtary, Anil Divan, KKV, Ashok Desai etc come into play. Jaitley was an erudite and strong lawyer but probably a notch below the stalwarts mentioned above.

It’s a practice almost entirely focused on advisory work. If you like research, especially caselaw research, you will like this practice area. Scope is almost always there as you can shift into in-house roles easily. Firms wise, very few teams have a standalone practice so your mobility is fairly restricted. Trilegal Bangalore, Kco Bangalore and CAM Bangalore have the best teams, in that order. AZB Mumbai also does some substantial work in this practice since Vikram Shroff moved from NDA.

It’s a good, interesting practice area with quite interesting work everyday but the volume is almost always very high.

yuck. Have you attempted NET? its the worst exam ever that tests nothing except rote learning and luck. There is ZERO reason to believe someone passing an exam like that is better equipped to PhD. PhD admissions are supposed to be subjective in some senses. There are values other than facial impartiality. Research fit with supervisor for example, proven research experience, clarity in research question/methods all go a long way toward ensuring you actually complete your PhD than simply passing some idiotic exam. We have to get out of this colonized mentality. Not everything is IAS, not every hiring decision needs to be about equity between competing groups, and exams are not the only solution, especially not for high specialisation jobs like PhD. More important to get the best candidate with the best fit into the program.

advanced degree from a reputed university abroad will help your chances to get hired anywhere at all.Think HYS+Columbia+certain NYU and Berkeley programs and oxbridge. But that is not what the question is asking. the question is asking about an ADR LLM from jgls. I have yet to meet a person who will affirmatively say that degree helped them get jobs they otherwise wouldnt in industry. Any indian llm just doesnt have the same value at all.

Let me share my experience. I am a graduate of a tier 1 NLU. I did an LLM abroad and it helped me a lot. Apart from the experience of studying at a good international university (which you will not get anywhere in India) my LLM helped me secure a job at a niche law firm in India, followed by a very good in-house job at a top MNC. I was interviewed by the GC of this MNC, who is based abroad. I’m pretty sure having an overseas degree helped my selection. I don’t wish to give away my details, but let’s just say that my job is one that a lot of people would love to have.

I see a lot of scepticism, even hate, on LI against those doing an LLM abroad, for some reason. Sure, maybe it doesn’t work if your goal in life is to be a partner at CAM. But there are also other rewarding careers in law and there are also people who have benefited from an LLM abroad.

Hi everyone,

I’m a recent law graduate trying to get my first proper break into the legal field. My CV is pretty average. I don’t come from a top-tier law school and I don’t have a long list of prestigious internships. But I’m serious about my career, willing to work hard, and just looking for the right place to start.

Right now I’m working with a team in any capacity I can, just to gain some real-world experience and keep learning. I know I still have a lot to prove, but I’m committed to growing wherever I get the chance.

I’m open to any full-time opportunity, whether it's in a law firm, chamber, or even a corporate legal department. Pay isn’t a priority for me at this stage. What I really want is a proper full-time role where I can learn, contribute, and gradually build my skills.

If anyone has suggestions on which firms are currently open to hiring freshers, especially those that are open to training and giving chances to people who may not have a gold-standard CV, I’d be really grateful. I’d love to hear about firms that value dedication and potential more than just grades.

Please feel free to share names of firms, teams, or even people I could reach out to. Any advice, recommendations, or leads would mean a lot.

Thank you so much for reading.

Quality of life from what I have observed.

Even after earning 100s of crores, senior advocate's have a non existent work life balance add to that pollution, traffic, broken/clogged roads.

Don't forget UK also has many filthy rich Indians which require legal assistance for their company and themselves so Indian lawyers do come in demand due to a strong diaspora.

The direct recruitment is very less. Not sure about Haryana. Delhi is far more regular with promotions, also because there are many specialised courts now which require ASJs and ADJs like commercial courts, POCSO courts, CBI and MLA MP Courts. I know these courts have resulted in more vacancies in Higher Judicial Services in Delhi for sure, again, cannot say about Haryana.

No. A tier-1 NLU brand is not overrated. Haters who flunked CLAT/AILET will argue that it doesn't matter, but a brand from a top NLU opens many doors and opportunities . More importantly, it's an indication of credibility especially given the fact that law is longer degree of 5 years. I would personally trust anyone from one of the top 5 NLUs over any other law school, or atleast give them the first-hand benefit of doubt, over any private college including your dear JGLS, Symbi and whatnot. And how on earth is SP Jain and Lancaster, etc., tier-1 for MBAs, lol? These places are the JGLS of IIMs. They suck, basically.