Wow!!! If I wasn't totally blind myself, I would somehow, I am sure, have been able to respond to this answer using the emoji it deserves: the applause/clapping hands one. No words, beautifully written, hard-hitting, persuasive, totally logical. Thanks for injecting some highly desired common sense into this discussion.

Look man. If you wanted to talk about a particular case- the straight thing to do would be to talk about the case. not this nonsense where you pretend there's some puzzle and clearly are disappointed that someone has not given you the answer you want. Just try being upfront with people in the future.

A couple of points just after reading through what youve written:

1) CLAT consortium and the VC of NLSIU are completely different entities legally and practically speaking. Sudhir has repeatedly expressed that he disagrees with them on many accounts and even tried to find a way so he wouldnt have to admit students through that stupid and poorly run exam. He's in a bad marriage with the consortium, where he is blamed for everything they do wrong and also not allowed to leave.

2) This person you speak of honestly seems immature. Of course a university page is going to highlight students who have succeeded at different competitions and are optimistic and offer an aspirational example to other prospective students. Not just because those students are aspirational, but because it might be exploitative to put the trauma stories of students who aren't doing so well on the website. They might regret it; The internet is forever and a 19 year old may not be able to make a considered decision about whether to put their trauma up on a website for all to see. The university might just be protecting them and their future selves by keeping a light tone on its own website. It's got nothing to do with class or who gets encouraged at the university. A person who got into Yale for his LLM from NLS this year is a queer disabled first-generation learner who got tons of support from the university.
University website pages are also not there to "encourage" students. Not everything exists to encourage students. Students are not fragile little tinker bells who will die if they don't get applause constantly. University website pages are there for the university to publicly communicate with the public - they will put up calls for papers and applications, notices of news and events, faculty scholarship and an occasional fluff piece about new students or faculty. they only do that last so prospective students might draw some inspiration and consider applying. so crucial to that would be to point out all the opportunities NLS can offer them. It's not there to do the purpose you think it's there to do. This is not there to give validation to the students featured.
3) Are you saying that someone with an illiterate mother or a disorder of sexual development cannot compete with others on an equal footing? Are you suggesting that this individual is morally or otherwise inferior in her abilities? I don't think so. I've known plenty of people who were first-generation learners and did extremely well. Sudhir himself—his mother only has high school, and his father was a watchman. He went to school on scholarships and the charity of Christian organizations, and he made something of himself. And once he made something of himself, he was celebrated. The idea that people should be held to a lower standard because of their background - that they somehow lack capacity for brilliance - is honestly quite bigoted. I have known plenty of children from single parent homes, including yours truly, who thrived at NLUs, were not any different than anyone else.

4) What is the great source of agony here? What is it that we're supposed to get worked up about? The university website page that hardly anyone reads doesn't celebrate exactly the type of person you want and deem worthy? Because from your obviously biased summary, I gather that your candidate did not actually make it into NLSIU. So they very well cannot put up a profile of her as an admitted student. If it was money she was worried about, she could have taken loans, tried out for Aditya Birla, or reached out to IDIA. It seems she wanted a lowered admission standard and I'm afraid sometimes in life you have to take the L, or work harder to ace clat the next time. Thousands of students attempt clat and don't make it to NLS and move on with their lives. This obsession seems unhealthy.
5) Besides the laws can and do account for- you must admit disabled candidates who qualify, dalits and adivasis who qualify etc. She was not denied admission just because of her disability. What you're asking for is something else. You're asking for everyone in your life to celebrate and treat you like a hero because you have a trauma story that you personally think makes you superior. I'm afraid you simply cannot compel others to see you the way you want to be seen. Or at least that the university celebrate other candidates you deem worthy because of their traumas. None of us have that right. If we did, it would be a dystopia where speech and thought could be compelled.

6) If the assertion is that because your friend was not admitted—no one at NLS currently has trauma or comes from disadvantaged backgrounds and therefore it's an elite institution—that's honestly just ignorant. Hundreds of people on a university campus, many of them come from troubled backgrounds; nearly all of them do not make it their entire identity; they focus on self improvement and learning the law to help others. You might consider doing the same.

Yes, it is not for Cyril to justify why he gave the money to JGLS, but on the state NLUs to reflect on why Cyril did not give the money to any one of them. State NLUs are sinking ships. One cannot find a single NLU that has actually done well and improved in the past five years. While the ranking among the state NLUs may remain the same, that is because all NLUs have deteriorated. There has been a 'shift-left' in the normal distribution in all NLUs.

You are absolutely right. IISc received a total donor funding of ₹1400 crores (including ₹500 from the Tatas) for its medical school. This is just amazing. That is some serious money. A donor will / should always evaluate the recipient university about its ability to spend the money diligently and properly.

https://medicine.iisc.ac.in/

For a potential donor, the question is not whether a university needs the money (every university needs money) but whether the university has the ability and competence to properly use the funding. Many IITs would have loved to receive the ₹500 crores from the Tata Foundation, but the Tata Foundation gave it to IISc for its new medical school, because in its evaluation, IISc is the most capable of putting that kind of money to proper use. It is the same here. Cyril doesn't think any state NLU can use the ₹15 crores properly, hence he gave it to JGLS. Think like a donor before commenting.

Soo this year I am also thinking of giving the exam as clat results are being delayed a lot so not in a secure position rn i am mean i will get a clg but idk if the course will start on time. So did u do that 2 year IBL llm From Nalsar. How was ur experience n is it worth the fees?? Please tell no

The only thing I'd disagree about is the Mentorship scene. There is a decent one if you approach seniors. I have always gotten and given help/mentorship when asked and so has everyone around me. Although one can say the senior junior bonding isn't that great because of non existent hostels.

You should always try for a call-back. The big names are spread over. Anuj Berry & Kunal Gupta (Tri), Avik Biswas & Manavendra Misra (KCO), Alina Arora (SAM) hv large teams but don’t take a chance if you have a way into PBB. T-1s pay T-1 salaries. It’s a niche area difficult to get through & tough to survive.

While all other colleges have finished their courses, NUALS, and it's Harvard level education and it's ▮▮▮ inequipped professors, have decided to extend the course till the middle of June at the very least so they can leisurely conduct all the required vivas and exams which should have been done by April.

Any other NLU or law college facing this plight??

Beyond fucking tired of this college

Messed up clat so bad this year and with my ranking, I might have a chance with NLUO.

Didn’t wanna write SLAT, but did it anyway and got SLSN.

I’ve heard that SLSN doesn’t have a good ROI, and NLUO, while a tier 2 NLU, is miles better.

Thoughts on this? Please!

Really? Surely this is a joke at this point?

Have you been asleep since November 2024? In fact, have you been asleep for several years? If you haven't, I really can't imagine why you would say something as nonsensical as this, especially considering what happened in the U.S. in November 2024. And even if you discount the significance of that event, surely you are aware that the theoretical rigour etc of the U.S. LLM curriculums is far inferior to the BCL and their UK/international counterparts?

Is anyone pursuing a PhD or has pursued one from Jindal ? My query is on how the admission process works ? How is the written and interview? What's the total cost of living for the next 3-5 years ? How much does CV play a role ? How much does recommendations work ? Do we get a stipend ? If I am from a middle class family should I pursue a PhD from Jindal ?

Normally the fees for the first semester are payable along with admission, but if you have genuine financial problems, then you can approach the administration in advance and then tell them about it, so that they may give you advance documentation proving your admission, which you can use to get the loan in advance from the local SBI branch or the Union Bank branch that is located within the campus. It has been done before. After that, you may apply for scholarships, both in-house and external ones like Platinum, Aditya Birla etc. You may also get in touch with the IDIA people if you qualify the income criterion.

Umakanth Varottil is the youngest partner* at any Tier 1 law firm in Indian history. He became a partner at age 26 at Amarchand Mangaldas and Suresh A Shroff (before Sam cam era) Within an year he quit his job to teach in the US.

Youngest Partner* through merit - not related to same caste, family or power politics.