You're delusional to think anyone puts school grades on a CV. Hopefully, by the time you apply for graduate schools, you have more stuff to put on there than school grades. I have never seen a CV of a real life law graduate with school grades on there. There is a form that comes along with every graduate school application, UK or US. they ask for any number of particulars they think are important. They ask for your under graduate degree, gpa, they ask you to list out publications; they ask you to list out work experience. What do they not ask for? to list out your school grades. There's no space for that on the form itself. You would know this if you had filled out a single graduate school application.

No foreign law firm is looking at school grades either. They conduct their own tests and assessments to figure out if youre worth a vac scheme.

I am not proud of it. I was simply trying to state the difference in the type of work. To do all the backend legal compliance work in a firm, you require more manpower. Litigation is more of an individual work, doesn't require as much assistance. Even counsels who are decent paymasters(the ones who pay north of 50k at least) do not employ as many people and bill high, ensuring greater margins.

I am in an NLU myself and am in law for the same reason as you. Yet, litigation continues to be a nepotist profession for the way it is designed. Firms give you an early standing, but you do not reach where the king's son sits.

That is nothing to be proud of dude. Idk but I think this law firm culture wherein juniors are paid in lakhs and not pocket money like litigation is the reason many middle class 1st generation students even aspire to study law. If top NLUs did not offer 15 lakh package job, I would not have done law at all. The senior counsels who take home all the money, pay literally pocket change to their freshers. It just maintains nepotism. Law firms with all their limitations, atleast places a non nepo kid at better footing. Btw I think this is mostly an Indian thing. I had friends from Germany who said they can venture into litigation chambers just like corporate law firms. Both pay equally well and are open to first gen lawyers.

Beta, u seem to be quite clueless. For a Sr Adv to make even 1 cr a month, he has to charge minimum 5 L per appearance and he must appear on every single court working day per mnth. How many Sr Advs do you know who have such a practice? Dr Singhvi, Mr Sibal etc are not the norm - they are exceptions because they are genius. In the entire country, there won’t he more than 100 Sr Advocates who make over 10 cr per yr. Sorry to burst your bubble beta :)

This is the most ridiculous hill to die on. What do you think is bare minimum decent life ? I know plenty of corp folks who make that kind of money - they know they’re living in absolute luxury. The article is ridiculous on its face. Dude made the big mistake of trying to buy a house that won’t be worth it ( because it won’t house a family) simply because it’s in navi Mumbai. I find it really hard to believe he’s going to ration stores instead of buying branded products too.

Stop cosplaying poverty when you’re in a very comfortable space. It’s disgusting and narcisisstic. And no one is buying it.

Bhai pagal vahal hai kya sab bache? 55 year old guy and 22 lakhs is the household income? Idhar 22 saal ke bache ko 20 lakh mil rahe akele. Bina biwi ya pati ke. You'll eventually earn more as you age. You'll have an earning spouse maybe. Teri household income ho jaygi 50 lakh plus aaram se by the time you're 30. Fir what bullshit you guys keep posting?

I came in Mumbai 3 years ago with a salary of 14 lpa. Enjoyed my time (whatever I got) without any cash crunch. Kids don't get it 100000s still a great amount to start off anywhere. My dad who was a grade B govt employee had us raised with a household salary of 12-15 lpa in a tier 2 city (govt perks included yes) - but stop cribbing. Unless you got married off in 4th year and your spouse is a dependent you need not worry. Itna time hi nahi rahega tere pass to shed the mint.

Granted, but I was just saying that the JSP compared to a JSD seems to have much more promising prospects for getting an American job. You are completely correct, getting in is a totally different matter altogether! And you're right also, I don't know of anyone who's done that!

Hi everyone,

I graduated from a tier 1 NLU in 2024 and worked for few months in a corporate role that eventually wasn’t the right fit for me. After careful consideration, I decided to take a step back and start preparing for competitive exams like the UPSC, and other similar ones.

These exams have long and uncertain cycles—it can take one to two years to secure a position, even if you’re successful. While I’m committed to this preparation, I don’t want this time to feel like it’s wasted if things don’t go as planned. I want to set up a backup plan that gives me a sense of security and doesn’t derail my career progression.

I’m looking for advice from those who have been in similar situations or have insights into making this phase more productive and meaningful.

I’m currently enrolled with the Delhi Bar Council and exploring the idea of working under an advocate in my tier 3 town. My primary intention is not to dive deeply into litigation but to create a fallback plan. By gaining 4-5 years of experience alongside my preparation, I’d be eligible to take the AOR exam, which could provide a cushion for my career if needed. However, I want to prioritize my exam preparation and don’t plan to devote myself fully to litigation at this stage.

Another option I’m considering is pursuing an LLM from a local college in my town. While it wouldn’t be from a prestigious institution, this would qualify me for exams like the UGC NET and open up the possibility of becoming a law professor. This feels like a more structured backup plan compared to litigation, but I’m unsure if it’s the best use of my time or whether it will detract from my primary focus on competitive exams.

At the same time, I’m wondering if there are other paths I should explore to ensure this period is productive and that I’m building a stable career trajectory.

For those of you who’ve been in a similar situation or have experience navigating these uncertainties:

Please advise if there are any other strategies or opportunities I could pursue to make the most of this time while ensuring I have something concrete to fall back on?

I’d really appreciate any advice or insights you can share about managing this phase of my career and setting myself up for long-term stability. Thank you in advance for your help!

Every developed country in modern world had to do forcible integration and erasure of identities within their borders in order to increase social cohesion. China did same with Pro Han policy.

Diversity became a price to pay for progress , after the concept of nation states were invented

i'll be joining a t1 nlu coming AY, and had a question: is it alright if i don't use my legal name in law school/on professional platforms?

i borderline loathe my legal name, and i have various reasons for it. recently decided that i would not use my legal name anywhere except important documents/ids, and stick to a name i chose for myself. keep in mind that i have no intention of legally changing it, not only because the process is extremely complicated, but also because my family is very much against it; i can't even if i wanted to, so i decided to find a way out by having "two names" (the legal one, and the one i prefer). now my concern is if it'll be alright for me to use this picked up name professionally (on cv, resume, linkedin, internship certificates). i've already started introducing myself to my batchmates w this name, so there's no problem there, but i don't know if there will be any identity mishaps if i use this name for my internships.

any help/advice/solution (?) would be greatly appreciated lol

Can confirm this. I am both shy and disabled (totally blind). Many people who know me now say that they "wouldn't be able to detect" I am or ever was shy but it is still something I struggle with. Mind, I am often accused of lying since I have played the piano at large concerts, so people think I must be joking about shyness. But it can be overcome or at least controlled. For me, the way I do it is that if I know I have something of substance to say, I go up to someone and say it. I know my limitations. As a result of virtually no childhood friendships either at school or in my neighbourhood or any other setting, I am horrible at smalltalk (just can't do it). So I don't. I also know that, in in person large social gatherings, I'd rather get some help from someone I know being introduced to somebody else, rather than fumbling and trying myself when it may seem like I am talking to the wrong person. So expose yourself, see where your problems are, reflect on those and fix them (getting ideas from other trusted people where and when you can!). Not too different from academic strategies for exams (fundamentally), you see?

One of my best friends is very confident in social situations involving one or two people and is a genuine fountain of wisdom and kindness. But put her in a larger setting with more people and she becomes uneasy and withdrawn, with her efforts at attempting to hide/mask her shyness sometimes coming across as rudeness or snobbishness. But she is truely one of the nicest and most smart people I know, has worked successfully for six years in a law firm and is now moving in-house not because of any social difficulty but because her move to the unnamed company she will work for moves her closer to a sector she has been interested in since childhood.

In my experience, 7 out of 10 people who call themselves introvert are just plain dumb. Your lack of knowledge on basic topics (politics, sports, etc.), which disables a meaningful interaction, does not makes you an introvert.

To any real introverts (including you), sky is (not) the limit.

Bear in mind, there's a difference between introvert and shy. Introverts can make it in law easily, yes. Shy? Difficult. You'll have to push yourself out of it. And I mean this in the nicest sense possible. I was a very shy kid in school, and had a difficult time having normal social interactions.

Some of the most prominent advocates are introverted. So let don’t let that bother you.

As someone with over a decade of experience and doing quite well in my field (T1, litigation), I believe being introverted is a blessing. My seniors appreciate my brevity and enjoy talking to me because I’m straightforward, and it gives them an opportunity to speak more.

As legal professionals, we frequently encounter a vast number of outdated laws and regulations, many of which are remnants of the License Raj era. While these laws provide us with ample work, they are often detrimental to the economy, particularly from a liberal free-market or libertarian perspective.

Are there any organizations or groups actively working to identify and advocate for the removal of such obsolete laws?

I am in a serious dilemma at the moment. All my school life I had been a topper and great in extracurricular activities. I was training in ▮▮▮ dance so in grade 10 my parents gave me the option of either pursuing a career in dance or academics. Being the topper, I chose academics. I got 99.▮▮▮ in class 10 and chose humanities because I did not like physics or math. I really wanted to be a doctor but saw no point studying physics for 2 years. So I chose humanities and prepared for clat for 6 months and got a decent rank in first attempt. Finally, I am in a tier 2 NLU and am utterly confused because I had never contemplated myself studying law and being a lawyer. Being extremely studious right from the beginning, my social skills are average and I can’t really give witty and eloquent answers in front of the Judge in moot court competitions. I work very hard, am among the top 5 students at college but I can’t seem to love participating in any law-related activities. I feel like I’m in an arranged marriage with my degree of law. All my life I have always pursued what I have genuinely loved and mostly excelled. Here, I need to put in that extra effort because honestly I don’t know if I’m really made for law. Sometimes, I feel like I took the wrong decision by opting for humanities in grade 11. Since grade 7-8 I aspired to be an IAS so should I start with my IAS prep, considering I love studying about polity and current affairs (one of the reasons of liking clat prep). I am in my 2nd year. Should I focus on moots and ADR that I don’t enjoy doing, or directly start with UPSC prep?

As a law student on the peak of graduating and entering the workforce, I'm wondering what it's like to be a woman in the workforce in 2025? Can women have it all or are the traditional stereotypes still underway i.e. can a woman be successful only if she puts family/children (if that's something she wants), on the back burner? even during my internships I struggled to find female role models who had achieved their success without having to sacrifice these things. What is it really like on the ground level and what can I expect?

Update your socials and let people know what's going to happen. Use your student body page on various social media and share it because this is needed. People outside of this circle have to know, especially those who are planning to join. Bring back the dead accounts and make it work in your favour.

There is a comment above, to be fair, saying that they plan to conduct a protest. I think, also, that the keyboard rage has its place too. A reasonably (among the Indian legal community) well-read (if not a very reputable) gossip blog is a good platform to let people from other unis or practitioners know what is going on, which is also a valuable thing to be doing - trashing the reputation of their administration. True, that can be more effectively done by a massive protest which the news might cover, but let us not be so harsh on the students.

hi all

What databases do y'all use to do research? I used google scholar and hein rn in my first sem but they have a lot of bad literature which i was called out on for citing in my vivas

JSTOR has quality literature but not that much law stuff (what what there is usually is related to public law)

Our college does not have access to OUP/Bril/TandF

I'm currently a 3rd-year student of a middle-tier NLU and confused about whether I should opt for corporate or judiciary. With almost every factor, it is clear that I want to pursue judiciary, except for the aspect of money.

I always think that law firm life is challenging in the initial years, but by the end of 10 years, I'll make ₹1-3 crore per year. With the judiciary, this amount can be touched, maybe through corruption (does it happen?).

So, my questions:

1. 1. Do law firm partners make such an amount, and can an ordinary person with zero legal background achieve it?
2. If they make, is it the money after the deduction done by paying the expenses of firm.
2. 3. If yes, how many years would it take if I join a Tier 2/3/Boutique firm after graduation as an associate?
3. 4. Comparison with Judiciary: The corruption part.
4. 5. The factors behind making that ₹1 crore, and how much of it is saved compared to the judiciary, considering that after 10 years, the post will likely be CJM (in our state, promotions happen fast).

I am sure people here are tired of such rants but finding a good internship without connections especially without being in a T1 is so fucking hard. Everyday I mail the firms and none of this shit works whether it's a cold email to the partners or to the HR, I know my application isn't even being opened. I graduate in 2026 and don't know how will I ever get a job like this