People use "the non nlu" tag more than the NLU tag.

It feels like people have made a conceptual victim out of the "non nlu" thing. You'd see conversations where people think that they deserve jobs because they are from an non nlu.

They make it seem like that the only thing stopping them from becoming a big time lawyer is their college. However most Senior Advocates, Partners, GCs are from Non nlus.

People mask their failures by blaming NLUs whereas the fact is most people from all colleges are largely just stupid

Absolutely not. You can stay here for decades and still "demand" respect in the society just cause you're a vakeeeel. It's the most pathetic profession that requires zero efforts. If people find out how better ADR is, they wouldn't need lawyers. Just like how corps are finding out CAs are better corp-tax lawyers than lawyers.

1- monthly salary which can be decent if they are well funded; and

2. - selling their shares and amassing a good sum in one go if people are interested in buying the shares at those valuations

that's it?

so they basically draw a normal salary till they can exit fully or partially? if they don't want to exit, they take loans against their shares and spend that money?

Format -- Income after tax: car/watch/perfume /shoe (e.g. 20 lakhs Dzire/Tissot/CK/Woodland)

So can you help me with these income levels:

Rs 20 lakhs: Which car/watch/perfume/shoe?

Rs 30 lakhs: Which car/watch/perfume/shoe?

Just trying to understand what brands one should use to fit in better with the crowd. Thanks.

Interned at a famous law firm's Bangalore office in my 4th year. I was in the M & A team and there was a new group of fifth year girls interning with the disputes team. The 40 year old bald and married partner had his eye on one of them right from the very beginning and was making very lewd jokes with them ryt from the start. By the end of my internship he got into some sort of tacit understanding with the girl, they came to office together and left together and had insane chemistry (tbvh) and I overheard insane rumours. When I went back there for my callback few months later, she had a job there, and I overheard a few seniors mumbling and complaining that she was untrained. Still continues to work there and I heard that the partner has basically seperated from his wife and not divorcing only to avoid hurting his reputation among parents/relatives.

I know a shady woman lawyer at Allahabad hc, lucknow bench who was the gf of a judge. She was her junior. The judge got her made a standing counsel. She remained a government lawyer for 20 years and retired as Additional government advocate, a kind of high gov post. She was very rude and downright arrogant. Even her name was sent for judgeship at one point but was rejected by collegium since it lacked merit. Now after retirement she comes to court and argue whatever few matters she had. Another such female lawyer was in live in relationship with an IPS and ALLAHABAD HC has pronounced a famous judgement of live in relationship on her personal case. She's currently dating another married Additional advocate general. She herself is married.

Apologizes in advance for this rant, but I had to vent this out somewhere. In 10th and 12th I had very good grades and was among top 5 of my batch. Due to various reasons including Covid-19 and online classes I became very complacent, and treated my first CLAT attempt as a joke. Then got into a state uni by acing state law entrance. Was not concerned about my future or higher studies, so did not retake CLAT again.

Currently I am on the brink of entering my 4th year and I have realized that I have no hopes in this sea of mediocrity. Whether it's for BCL or LLM from a prestigious university you need to have a good CGPA in your undergrad. My mediocrity when combined with horseshit valuation which rarely give marks about 70 to any student, means that max I can get even if I improve is around 6.4/10 CGPA.

Even my CV is mediocre with internships being with 4 goverment orgs + 2 Tier law firms, 1 publication in a mid journal and tons of free certifcate courses.

To make matters worse I am a first gen lawyer with no close relatives in law. Even the contacts I have are at SA level and at most can only arrange me an internship.

How I wish I could turn back 3 years into 2021...Or can I?....I have registered for CLAT 2025 this December. Here I require your opinions, what do you think I should do in the bleak scenario where I get NLSIU or NALSAR? Should I go? Also another question, this time to recruiters and law firms proffesionals, will my age at passing (26) be a problem during Day Zero?

This is true. This place has not learned anything from the EY tragedy. You are targeted, demeaned and ridiculed at, when you start taking care of your health. For them you are simply a machine who is supposed to work 18-20 hours a day or even more, without any weekend, sleep or rest. This way, not only your mental health (which for sure is going for a toss) but even your physical health goes for a toss. There are many recent unfortunate examples.

I joined a law firm about a year ago and was immediately put on several matters, which is exactly what I wanted. At first, I was really excited about the workload because it felt like a step up from my previous job, which was pretty bad. But things quickly spiraled. The long hours were tough, almost everything was unfamiliar, and I started making a lot of mistakes.

Initially, my team was really supportive, trying to train me and get me up to speed. But after a while, I could sense their frustration building. I just wasn’t able to match the performance of other associates, and now I feel like I'm constantly walking on eggshells. I can see them losing patience with me, and I’m terrified that I’m on the verge of being fired.

Has anyone else been in this situation? Any advice on what I should do to turn this around, or how to handle the anxiety of potentially getting let go?

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For that we need internships. I had applied to hundreds of firms but got no response. I'm guilty of not applying properly though. I am improving my applications now and thinking only if I had applied appropriately earlier I may have got those who knows but no regrets. Whatever comes in, I'll pull through

Honest question; what do leaders and people in management value more- technical competency or syncopancy? In my limited experience it has mostly been the latter. You have given sound advice and to an extent I follow that, but I guess it has never worked for me atleast. It seems that quite often than not it's such class of individuals that succeed at the workplace. Honest and hardworking people always get mistreated by their superiors and nobody recognises their work unless they shout and tell the world. Law, in my humble opinion seems to be one profession where incompetence is rewarded more than anything else. Bear with me but I am just very disillusioned. If I could go back in time I would ask my younger self to consider not joining this profession because this profession is not about merit. It never was. People like me have no leverage in this profession because neither do we come from generational wealth nor do we have contacts/clout/social status. I try everyday to give my best in things that I have control over-hardwork and improving my art; just trying to be good at my domain, giving my 100 percent in whatever I do. It's an uphill task to maintain faith when the entire world seems to be conspiring against you. Thank you for your suggestions and for taking out the time from your schedule. Appreciate it.

I truely do not wish to dismiss your life experiences and can certainly understand that there is (and should be) genuine feeling here, but can I ask in good faith if I am the only one who feels like the author of this post failed to entirely resist the temptation of getting AI to help him?

1. Work life balance is pretty good compared to Indian tier 1. Most days are 10 hours or less.

2. Lawyers get paid equivalent to Investment Bankers and consultants. Basically MBA folks and law folks are equal.

True or false or a detailed explanation of it depends.

Most of the times, people who've been through shit and toxic bosses decide to pass it on to juniors. This is what happened with me when the SA I used to work with the most was passive-aggresive and routinely complained about me to the Partner, whenever given an opportunity, while never confronting me directly. She herself had been through major mental health issues in her previous firm. Instead of speaking to me, she decided to make my life miserable.

I fully understand how this is going to sound, but law firms need to start coming to terms with the fact they aren't the always the number 1 option. As someone currently in one of the T-1s it's legitimately just started to get frustrating how many times Recruitment Committees get flak from firms because the firm hasn't gotten applications from the "Top-20" students in a batch.

1. It feels like every firm wants the same 10/15 students to send their applications, and even taken at face value, it's impossible for the top rankers to apply for all of them. Because firms tend to get even more upset if someone withdraws after selection because they've got an internship elsewhere and don't offer replacement spots. So committees are forced to open internships only after

2. The focus on ranks is so unnecessarily arbitrary. It feels like all firms care about is the number next to your name, firms don't seem to care that a lower ranking candidate got a really good grade in the course of the field they want to work in / have prior work experience in the field, it's all just rank. Why does someone's corporate law grades / work experience matter less than their rank which gets affected by all sorts of irrelevant things - such as History / Sociology grades in BA LLB degrees.

3. It's frustrating to see that you generally have to be decently smart and hardworking to get into a T-1 law school as is, but even if you make it, that doesn't matter. Why is ranking let's say 50 at NLS/NALSAR/NUJS considered not good enough to be considered for an internship interview?

4. Some of these firms demanding top-20 ranks aren't even T-1 firms, which is when it gets especially ridiculous because they'll refuse to give a single spot to the people who did take the time out to apply to them on the basis that they didn't get top-ranker applications

Newsflash: they will simply never get top rankers because top rankers don't want to intern with them. And by rejecting the students that have taken the time out to apply (often times insulting them by fighting with recruitment committees on why no "good" applications have been submitted) and hope for an internship there, all they do is generate further bad-will in a potential future employees.

It genuinely just feels frustrating working hard, but being punished just because you aren't at the absolute top of your class. Someone is always going to be a lower rank - someone is always going to be outside the top-20, and firms need to start looking past this one goddamn marker because there is a talent pool that exists beyond that that's worth a shot.

Did you paid them the fee when you handed them the file? Because no one is gonna read the file for free bro. Be it allahabad or Bombay. Also being from a tier one law college won't do shit in litigation. I frequently see lawyers from tier one law colleges and they are destroyed here at HC. Seen numerous alumnis of Tier one colleges who joined litigation but chickened out and quit.