I do all of that; I prepare for classes, engage when I feel I have to put across a point (not random yapping) and turn in my assignments on time. I'll tell you what I don't do- I don't crack jokes with my teachers, I don't give fake compliments on how they have published groundbreaking research, I keep my conversations professional and businesslike. I didn't read the entire wall of text you pasted here and couldn't care less on what 'YOU' think happens. You might have been a bad student, I am certainly not. Flattery works more than hardwork. That is the cold truth. Plain and simple. I don't hold anything against them though, it is human nature and to resent these people for being human too silly to me.

I think there's good and bad to it. Bad in the sense that yes it's rigorous, good in the sense that you do take away a lot from it.

I think what tips the balance is institutional support in other avenues–NLS has notoriously bad funding, support in terms of condonation and project-exemption, faculty guidance, infrastructure and online database access, etc. for preparation for events outside. Minimal support for hosting external events and consequently minimal campus activity. Given that, this may just add to the problems students face. At the same time, I don't think the tutorial system is in and of itself bad. It's an innovative pedagogy that will strongly reward the interested.

Thanks for referencing Mitchell Obama. On days where I am baffled by the unfairness of this institution specifically and the profession broadly, I revisit her book because it resonates so deeply with me; perhaps because we are from the similar economic backgrounds. I have considered law school as a training ground and I don't expect professors and instructors to be paragons of virtue, without any bias because after all they are humans too. Prejudice is a part of human nature and I recognise that. I don't hold it against them. There seems to be a pervasive tendency amongst not just people on this website but in the real world too, to paint the entire student community as lazy, incapable and incompetent when this is far from reality. Things have changed and most young adults atleast in the 20-25 age bracket understand how important it is to invest in education given how competitive everything is. Every concern need not be attributed with bad faith, especially when it comes from students. It's not quite right to be dismissive of people's lived experiences. While I will always be thankful to NLS for providing good legal education ( and trust me I enjoy the rigour that so many people dread), my experiences with some bad actors will always be etched in my memory and that bitterness will never leave. Take this as an emotional, reactive response of a disillusioned hard working, honest student if you will, but I am not sorry for expressing it here. Allyship requires alignment of values. In my stay at NLS, I haven't found many who aren't morally corrupt to the core.

It really isn't- you realise this once you spend any amount of time teaching anything to a group of people. Most teachers don't know anything about their students' lives or identities and dont care to. They would turn their ears off to any gossip about students. and once a batch of students graduate- about 90% of that batch becomes a hazy memory where names and faces will start to go away from their mind. They are doing a job. That's all they're doing. The scale of it is so different that it's hard for students to imagine.

Students don't understand this because they have one tort law teacher and one legal methods teacher etc- so obviously they spend a lot of time thinking about that person and how they perceive each other. Teachers usually have tens if not hundreds of students per term. You just don't think about students until they're right in front of you. The only other time you think about them is if they're actively making your job difficult by being unprofessional in the classroom demeanour or making unprofessional/ unfair requests. The only students you will remember when you teach regularly will be students you enjoyed - and you only know enough about them to know- they seemed to enjoy your class, they were engaged and hard-working, they made your life easier and they made teaching easier and you'll remember particularly good arguments they made in class or in their written work. That's it.

I have had hundreds of students- from when I taught clat prep to when I was a TA in grad school to after when I taught in law school. I honestly can maybe name ten of them off the top of my head. How can I be biased against someone that didn't even register? I don't know the caste, sexuality, ethnicity, or background of any of my students- why would I? How can I be biased on those grounds when I don't even know the biasing information? The only thing I know is if they were consistent and hard working and if they made me excited to go to class and think deeply about my own work.

I understand that students are sensitive about how teachers might perceive or judge them- and they might feel hurt when they don't understand why they're not chosen and mentored and it can all seem so arbitrary. After all, the student knows how brilliant and funny and creative they are, and the student knows they read occasionally and pay attention in class, and the student knows/ feels that they are a better person than that brown-nosing topper. I know how this feels because I was a bad student before I was a good student. But honestly- once you have been on the other side of the podium- the teacher doesn't know about any of this. The teacher knows only that which is demonstrated to him in or outside class. If students are vocal and engaged in class the teacher knows that. If students have read or are bullshitting the teacher knows that. If students are excited about his class and turn up prepared meet deadlines and dont dowork last minute- the teacher knows that. The teacher doesn't know your brilliant smarts and wit that you haven't demonstrated. And really- its hard and pointless to differentiate between one seemingly disengaged student and another. And teachers usually know nothing about the characters of the students in their class. It takes years of sustained contact to know someone's character. Maybe your grad school advisor knows your character- maybe that one prof from undergraduate school who took you under his wing. But saving that- it is all about the work.

I went through 2 years of law school resenting the fact that I wasn't the teacher's pet- and then I decided to become a better student. I read before class, I put my hand up and answered questions and asked them, I went to office hours, I convinced myself to like subjects I wasn't naturally inclined to, I worked hard on my projects and it showed. I tried to keep my interactions with professors positive and professional. That's all it took. My grades jumped and I had several people write me LORs and guide my career since. Nothing else about me or my character personally changed except what I was presenting in class and interactions with professors. Thats all they care about. Make their lives easier.

And you know what it actually is fun- teachers are usually big awkward nerds. There's something fun about seeing how grateful the teacher is because in a room of sleepy students, someone answered his question for once and that person had read the book and he knows he's not teaching to a wall. There's something fun about how reliant teachers get on seeing your head nod in the classroom. There's fun in seeing how excited a teacher type gets when you make connections between what was said in class to something they said in a prior class, or you read their work, or you point out a footnote that no one else has. And in how excited they get to discuss their favourite thing that they spend their lives trying to get other people excited about. There's something fun even about using all that classroom time to learn the law. My life got easier the day I stopped being resentful and started trying. I liked law school more that day.

Most teachers who I thought were biased and mean and judgy immediately became very nice to me once I started making an effort.

I will also say this- any teacher who is not like this, any teacher who is too invested in your life or who cares to ask you about your background or sexuality or caste or your health or your relationships or whatever, any teacher who seems invested in whether you like them or whether they are perceived as cool. Any teacher who does you unearned favour in exchange for your loyalty. Any teacher who does things to be popular- that teacher is weird and creepy and best avoided. I haven't met many like that at all. And even when I had those kinds teach me I usually did just fine in their class without getting into their fan club too much.

Sure. I would. Send me your mail and I will share allegedly wonderful research work which were marked low by teachers but was eventually published in a highly ranked journal, with the teacher in question acknowledging that it was good, albeit a bit begrudgingly. Unfortunately for me the damage was done and nothing they would say now repose my faith in them or the institution. I don't have the bandwidth to engage with trolls on this site and as someone pointed out we anyway don't have time at NLS. Peace out.

Moral of the story: Go Woke, Go Broke. The fact is that the Democrats have forgotten core bread and butter issues and instead become preoccupied with race, gender and identity. This cost them working class votes. I saw a post in X where someone said: “Democrats forgot that women buy bread more often than they get abortions.” Sums it up.

In fact, the only demographic where Kamala significantly outperformed Trump was Gen Z. But Gen Z just a fraction of the population.

Dr. Mirani is very distinguished acad whose profile goes beyond his google scholar achievements. please do not spread such misinformation.

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x98gina

You can have a look at his accomplishments from time stamp 50:48 in this video.

God knows what complexity it has. I'm already deep in this shit, was just warning you. If you want to do it sure go ahead but don't be in this delusion that you are, or you'll leave in less than a year. I guess you asked for what to do during the break, mentally prepare yourself for the boring work and mind numbing work which is coming your way. - T1 Projects A3

I'm a final-year student in a more than average law college (Non-Nlu) having interned at the trial court, High Court and the Supreme Court, being my final year I have an MZM legal (Mumbai office) internship lined up.

I want to know certain things 1. Is it worth interning at MZM in your Final year? 2. How much they Pay to A0 3. Work culture?

Kids on LI have a very poor sense of aesthetics. A large campus with a lot of facilities does not make it a beautiful campus. Look at GNLU: ugly af and that it sadly true for most Indian law school buildings. Even Jindal’s main campus, with glass and steel, is ugly looking. However, Ashoka is definitely aesthetic

Most attractive university buildings in India were actually those built by the British, such as IISC and Roorkee.

Links below. The video of Abhaya’s parents speaking is in Bengali. As for the “canteen gossip”, I’m not posting it here because I don’t want to get into trouble, but you can ask pretty much anyone in Kolkata (whether lawyer or non-lawyer) what is being referred to and they will tell you.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ujw3Gg2NIvw&pp=ygUGUmcga2Fy

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/rg-kar-medical-college-kolkata-doctor-rape-murder-chief-justice-dy-chandrachud-canteen-gossip-chief-justice-on-lawyers-judiciary-remark-in-rg-kar-case-6964951

MASSIVE if this really happens.

https://www.news18.com/india/an-opportunity-for-india-jaishankar-on-donald-trumps-second-term-9112484.html

I am a salaried partner in a T1 Firm.

I get a request for an internship every single day and a request for a recruitment once a week on my email. Even if I wanted to consider canditates through cold emails, its impossible to consider them because of the sheer volume of request that come.

I dont think cold emails to persons whose emails you got from the firm website serves any purpose.

Thanks

I feel you have let others affect your self-esteem more than your own perceptions and fundamental skills. You are where you are because you deserve it. Don't let others Psyop you. You might have different interests or not be interested in the co-curricular activities others are doing, but this makes you unique, not inferior. If you find your strengths, find your niche, and capitalize on it, landing a job would be the least of your concerns.

It’s only a data privacy team. Partner is brilliant, team members are knowledgeable, compassionate and easy to work with. Work is pretty good too involving a mix of top clients and growth startups. However, do have clarity on career growth (given the team structure) and compensation. KCO neither has pay parity across offices, nor across practices.

I have an upcoming internship at Khaitan & Co, Mumbai office in December. Have heard that they are offering hybrid (3 days WFH and 2 days on-site) internship only. Is it true? If yes, is it for all teams? I just need a fair idea as to how hectic will it be as I am already exhausted with my current ongoing internship at another T1 firm.