There is, in india, central university or Central jobs will always have more advantages especially when it comes to politics, power and leverage. We dream of Harvard, a private university, but cringe at actual good private universities in India. That's the mentality. Government is better than private for Indians. Even if the private is better for opportunities and reach

They wouldn't go into BHU since they won't get selected. That's the reality. Many of my seniors, batchmates and juniors have tried. It's pure politics to retain only central university. And who cares about syllabus or practices when you're being paid the 7th commission equivalent, a permanent job and immense power in the state through the judiciary and other competitive exams.

None are working in IITKgp. Also majority NLUs who are working in IIMs and IITs have a ug from NLU not a PG or PhD. Their PG or PhD is either from central Universities like IIT and IIM itself or from foreign universities. None have done their last degree, which is usually a PhD from an NLU.

I have already complained to SILF with the proof and the head of the firm with all the timelines of events and pointing out the behavior issues and the torture sequences of what is being done to the juniors aswell, where everything is always hanging by the thread. Need to sometimes cut the wings and break the confidence.

C'mon Mods. You know better than this. It's a derogatory, and explicitly racially charged word and you would never countenance a similar word being used about someone who isn't white. It's like calling foreigners gwailoh in China or gaijin in Japan. I bet you wouldn't call Kian a "gora" to his face, if he ever came back to LI.

You have shown exactly why it is the best reason. Your use of the 'g word'. We should apply the same standards to ourselves as white folks are expected to apply to themselves about Asian and black people, or as we are expected to apply to ourselves regarding black people. Thus, the 'g word' is the equivalent in this context of the 'n-word'.

Moderator, how you allowed this to slip through your processes is anybody's guess. Nevertheless, you should be doing something about it now. At the very least, marking trollish. Why hasn't this already been done?

TOI report:

"The Delhi high court said on Monday the country cannot be permitted to be maligned internationally as it listed for hearing on Aug 27 a petition by UK-based journalist Amrit Wilson challenging the cancellation of her Overseas Citizen of India (OCI) card.Opposing any relief, the Central govt tendered a report in a sealed cover before Justice Purushaindra Kumar Kaurav and said there were inputs from intelligence agencies against Wilson, which had a bearing on the sovereignty of the nation.HC examined the report and said there were allegations the octogenarian petitioner had participated in anti-India activities. "We should not be such a tolerant state that we allow our own country to be criticised, maligned on an international platform. There are some IB reports against you. There are not only tweets. There are allegations that you participated in anti-India activities," the judge said.However, the counsel appearing for Wilson questioned the Centre's claim that the petitioner participated in anti-India activities and contended that the show-cause notice given to her was devoid of any details."

Birkbeck page of Dr Kalpana Wilson:

"My research has explored the previously under-researched question of racism and racialisation in international development. I have examined the relationships between race, capital, embodiment and resistance in transnational historical and contemporary contexts. I put forward an approach which underlines the materiality of race in development as well as its discursive aspects, combining elements of postcolonial, critical race and feminist theory with political economy. I explore themes including global population policies, reproductive justice, (anti-)fascism and racialised diasporas in development.

Secondly, building upon long-term research on rural labour movements in India, I have looked at contesting understandings of women’s agency, in the contexts of neoliberal development interventions, and social movements and collective organising. I have also examined emerging representations of women and adolescent girls in the Global South as hyper-industrious potential entrepreneurs and how this ‘new’ set of gendered and racialised representations is linked to an intensification and extension of women’s labour under neoliberal globalisation."

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/cant-let-india-be-maligned-delhi-hc-tells-journo-in-oci-card-case/articleshow/128438042.cms

https://www.livelaw.in/high-court/delhi-high-court/amrit-wilson-oci-card-cancellation-centre-stand-cant-malign-india-abroad-523297

https://lawbeat.in/amp/top-stories/cji-surya-kants-uk-lecture-sparks-controversy-as-birkbeck-professor-questions-hostility-to-dissent-within-india-1599402

https://www.bbk.ac.uk/our-staff/8009423/kalpana-wilson

One off of it seems. I saw two the same day.

I can name the firms but it would get censored. One was a Mumbai T1 team fand other was Bangalore T1 team. Both cases the work was cross sold. Different POC and partner signing.

Entire briefing turned into a T1 bitching session from the clients side and chamber was the one left defending lawyers. Once they left my boss made enquiries as to who did the work on these.

Incredibly poor advisory work are being handed out. Its clearly coming out from kids and just signed by a partner without thought.The advise was almost ChatGPT-ish.

Wish I could post it here. Not for amusemenr but for some introspection. If I were T1 partners I would be damn careful cross-selling. Reputations are getting ruined in the market.

PS: Spent most of my career in a T1. The standards are dropping fast. The T2 and boutiques are giving much better work product even according to clients.

Average JGLS student: Rich. IB school product. Chauffer-driven Merc. Girlfriend looks like a model. Holidays in Switzerland. Uncle/family friend is a tier 1 law firm partner who told him a job in the firm is waiting for him after graduation.

Average JGLS hater: Middle class. KV or regular CBSE school product. Travels by auto and bus. No gf. Holidays in Manali and feels guilty because his peers are already preparing for next semester's exams. Struggles to get good internships because grades/contacts not sufficient.

What's not to hate? 😅

We have seen how the US Embassy is monitoring social media posts by visa applicants. Do HR people at law firms do the same?

For example, if one posts against politicians like Modi or Netanyahu? Or opposes projects by Adani and Ambani? Or professes support for Ambedkarite policies like private sector reservation? What if I criticise the judiciary and support the CJP?

Do HR people do such background checks? Is it advisable to lock one's social media account during placement season?

Bhai ye wohi law firm hai jinhone Trafiksol ka SME IPO kia. That is an undeniable, publicly known fact. DRHP Khol ke dekh lo.

Asha Agarwal only gets 1-2 mainboards a year (that too part scope, not the full book) from smart horizon because Asha is close to Parth Shah, the owner of the merchant bank and genuinely would have no legal clients otherwise.

You won’t see them on league tables anymore. ▮▮▮

I firmly disagree. Legacy has delivered strong Mainboard mandates recently (EMS Ltd, Vibhor Steels, Xtranet, Mann Fleet) and is also active in the QIP space. Yes, T&S Law has delivered Glottis, Manika, and a few others - but it’s critical to look at the pipeline of mandates and the names that the firms are working with.

Where are the T&S Law cake cutting LinkedIn posts now? “14 mandates”, apparently. Now ▮▮▮ .

All the others have the mainboards. Wait for June 30 and you’ll see them knocked off their high perches lol.

Only reason NLUD doing this is to make money. 20k students paying 4K each, making cool 8 Cr. 5-6 cr in profits at the cost of inconvenience to 20k young kids and their families wasting 20k days of the families for another entrance exam.

Till someone goes to the court NLUD wont listen. All NLUs part of CLAT, no reason why NLUD won’t join? Very bad precedent. If every NLU does this there will be 26 entrance exams like it was in pre-CLAT era.

High time NLUD joins CLAT consortium or let some court decides what they are doing is right?

if you read the Varun Bhagat v. Union of India it clearly states that all NLUs should consider joining a common entrance exam

all did except for NLUD, it was due to the intransigence of their then VC, each year during the CLAT meeting this is discussed, however, as NLUD is making a 3 crore profit each year they dont care

a new PIL is required, remember that SC had struck down the attempt by NLS during covid years to have its own entrance exam, so a PIL arguing for NLUD to join consortium or admit students through CLAT is likely to be looked upon kindly by the SC

Does anyone suggest a decent path for a B&F Associate (5-7 years PQE) to move abroad?

Would an LLM help and if yes which universities?

- Do they need a lot of publications even for experienced candidates?

- what kind of jobs can one get after that?

Or is there a way to get a job directly? If yes, then which countries?

Saw a reel by Arfa Khanum Sherwani of the Wire, where she is reporting that 20 million people support the CJP on Instagram, but only 1000 to 2000 turned up at Jantar Mantar. Also, several posts by girls are saying that there were a lot of chhapri guys in the crowd, who were just coming for timepass and staring at girls. 😞

I feel our Gen Z youth need better leadership. Why don’t NLU grads and students form a new political party? All the burning issues in our country right now are legal and constitutional in nature: caste, human rights of minorities, delimitation, free speech etc. In fact, the very origin of the CJP traces itself to a remark by the CJI. As the foremost legal minds, with an overwhelmingly secular and liberal bent, the NLU community is best placed to lead the party and explain these issues better on social media. The CJP is not doing this properly, sorry to say. This Abhijit Dipke guy seems kinda lame and cringe. He just picked up on one oral remark by the CJI, instead of trying to articulate a broad critic about the present situation of fundamental rights and social justice in India.

T1 NLU, starting my fourth year now. got extremely depressed back in my first year itself, Law school was a very bleak time for me- i dont remember a significant chunk of my law school career just tweaking between psychs and meds- and now that I have a medication routine which works, I am realising I have 10 backs which I need to clear. Now I am the anxiousest fuck out of all anxious fucks to have ever anxious fucked.

@Juniors: Genuinely rough it the fuck out no one gives a SHIT about health in this economy, and honestly why should they when there is always someone better and healthier and more knowledgeable to give work/money/referrals/help to

@Seniors: Can someone please advise me on what to do to recoup this- I have done some decent internships, a commercial law chamber, senior advocates doing crim law work, labour law (and in general theek thaak human rights work kiya hai)

but slowly realising all this doesnt matter if the batch rank is in the bloody 3 digits.

Oh give it a rest, sour grapes. NLS had over 20 years of a monopoly with no real competition as well as being able to grow at a time when the economy was expanding and liberalising.The second oldest NLU-NALSAR-doesn’t have the same kind of alumni base either for such reasons. Regardless of what the fools here debate and mods try to curtail, as things stand today, you’d be plain delusional to pretend that NUJS is better than NLUD. Even if placements are 0, NLUD is the better institute.

There appears to be a drought of PPOs even across Tier 1 law schools, despite firms apparently shifting towards a PPO-centric hiring model. The numbers so far are the lowest of any post-pandemic batch and, frankly, are cause for concern.

Macroeconomic factors such as the Iran conflict, a depreciating rupee, and the outflow of foreign capital from Indian markets may have some bearing on hiring decisions. However, they do not seem sufficient to explain the abysmally low number of offers being extended. Nor does the AI explanation carry much weight; at least for now, no AI system is capable of meaningfully replacing an A0.

Which raises an obvious question: what the hell is happening?

2026 batch with experience across Tier 1.5/2 and niche firms, good feedback, interested in commercial disputes. Started interning seriously only in my final year, so I missed the PPO pipeline. college placement support is practically non-existent. I'm confident in my skills, but being from a non-NLU and the current market situation, I don't have any offers right now.

For seniors who were in a similar position:

how did you navigate it?

what options should I be exploring right now?

My main concern is whether taking up just any role is worth it, or if it's better to wait for a good team/firm given how much your first job can shape your career. I'm already mass applying. Never really stressed about placements before, but watching everyone around me secure jobs has me questioning where I stand.

You are heated up about this for one reason, and one reason only: you don't read the amazing blog of the legendary realist philosopher of law at Chicago, Brian Leiter. Or if you do, you certainly aren't reading it carefully enough. If you did, you would remember the absolutely impossible-to-forget piece where Leiter severely rebukes those who level the "just-old-white-men-boring-to-teach" critique against jurisprudence curriculums that have a lot of Hart, Dworkin, Fuller and Raz in them. In that piece, because one of the ones Leiter is gunning for is specifically from Birkbeck, he allows himself to have some fun and describes it as "one of the UK's flakier law faculties" or something to that effect (don't have his piece to hand, so quoting from memory). As someone from one of the other London unis, call me biased if you like, but from my knowledge of UK higher ed, can confirm that Leiter's diagnosis is correct. Therefore, you can safely ignore these persons and move on. Hope this is helpful. All the best.

Recently, I came across a post by Nikhil at Trilegal for a unique role with his team which he described as "Tech Associate". First, do they actually review these forms as one can expect thousands of people filling them. Secondly, there was another such form released back in December which was also released for a fresher hire, so do they actually consider and review all these forms???