Cyril Shroff to open Amarchand Delhi II in Saket next month

Cyril Shroff, Mumbai-based managing partner of Amarchand which is set to split in two, has finalised a lease in Delhi’s Saket area.

Cyril Shroff, the Mumbai-based managing partner of Amarchand Mangaldas, which is set to split in two between Cyril and his Delhi-based brother Shardul by 1 April, has finalised a lease in South Delhi’s Saket area, according to authoritative sources.

It is understood that the Mumbai side of the firm will open up an office on a floor in Saket’s Religare building, on Pt Trilok Chand Sharma Marg (formerly known as Press Enclave Marg).

The office will likely be inaugurated some time in April. The starting team will include local lateral hires as well as several lawyers from Mumbai.

Cyril Shroff was not reachable for comment.

The current Delhi office of the firm in the Okhla Industrial Estate, where Shardul Shroff is based, is approximately 9km away.

Legally India had reported late last month that both Delhi and Mumbai had now registered web domains and been given the green light by mediators to open up competing offices by 1 April, with Shardul in discussions to merge with Mumbai firms.

Mumbai region of the as-yet-still-combined Amarchand includes Bangalore, Chennai and Hyderabad, while Delhi includes Kolkata, Gurgaon and Ahmedabad.

Comments

Wild Child No.1 13 Mar 2015, 13:39
+25 -10
Guyzz, I had 1 question, nobody answer last tym prperly:

I have Amarchand tattooed on 1 arm, Mangaldas on another. Iz dere gonna be split of names??

Wat 2 do????
Legal squirrel 13 Mar 2015, 14:11
+13 -12
Haha, depends... which office are you in bro?
Wild Child No. 1 14 Mar 2015, 02:39
+22 -14
Khaitan
WTF 14 Mar 2015, 11:52
+11 -7
Save your wee wee
animal 14 Mar 2015, 12:34
+19 -10
cut off both your arms.
rofl 13 Mar 2015, 13:47
+19 -15
best of luck with the brt and saket traffic!! shows cyrils financial resources are very very stretched! will be intersting to see the terms of the lease... whether he is paying anything or its in lieu of services to be performed!!
Guest 13 Mar 2015, 13:50
+2 -1
Give us names of cam team pls kian
commentator no 1 13 Mar 2015, 14:04
+4 -4
Pharst comment :) please give me a reward kian
kianganz 13 Mar 2015, 14:04
+3 -3
Sorry, 4th only :(
commentator no 1 13 Mar 2015, 14:13
+29 -0
No prob next time :) (when otherchand opens in Mumbai)
Dhondu 13 Mar 2015, 21:00
+23 -1
Kian, give the guy his due man.

We know you have the power to make 1,2 ka 4 and 4, 2 ka 1.

:D
Amused 16 Mar 2015, 04:12
+10 -1
[quote name="kianganz"]Sorry, 4th only :([/quote]

He is Arsenal
commentator no 1 13 Mar 2015, 14:05
+2 -2
Bhat the phack kian website buggy show no comments
kianganz 13 Mar 2015, 14:08
+1 -2
The first comment might take 5 minutes to go through moderation queue, so until then, there'll be a count of 0, sorry. Will try to be quicker to avoid disappointment in future. ;)
Simba 13 Mar 2015, 15:13
+3 -0
Staaaalllee news
vantage 13 Mar 2015, 15:37
+5 -0
1. Return of the Amarchand
2. Lord of the Amarchand
these would have been better sounding names!
comm 13 Mar 2015, 16:48
+87 -1
Otherchand and Anotherchand
Outsider 14 Mar 2015, 05:57
+47 -2
Brotherchand is also a good option.
Naam 15 Mar 2015, 21:10
+3 -5
Keladhand and gajarchand..
Okhla owl 13 Mar 2015, 16:28
+3 -3
The Sam firm is also all set.t Sam will open at lloyds centre point . Frantic fit out work is underway . To meet the same April timeline. Initial hires are done and will be in place . Sam is actually ahead . Just because he is quiet does not mean preparation not done. Naval is leading the efforts and has been squatting in Mumbai to complete things in time . Pallavi and naval will run delhi office whilst hildul attacks Mumbai

Bangalore also in good shape.jatin Aneja is in charge . And will be south person for hildul.

Hildul and his team ( Jennifer ) are doing a town hall on Monday 16 th to unfold the plans for Sam from April .

Cam may have lease now but hildul is not lagging behind.

Btw is saket a good area ?
Guest 14 Mar 2015, 06:04
+0 -1
Depends where you reside in delhi. Commuting is an issue if you live 15kms from the office anyway.

Saket is a decent area. And if this Building they are taking up as their office is the same buildinv I have in mind. Then It's a good area. Better than Okhla. There's a huge mall adjacent to the building. All in all its a gud place. But the area across the road is bad. Known as Khidaki Village :p
dont trash khidki 15 Mar 2015, 04:07
+2 -1
Khidki village is where the all the action is. especially now that AAP is in power.
Lucy Peck 28 Mar 2015, 13:37
+0 -0
Khidki is also an absolutely fascinating historical part of Delhi. There's great architecture, food, cafes, culture.

Of course that will mean diddly squat to SAM/ CAM or any of these other mowlers.
Guest 16 Mar 2015, 06:11
+0 -0
Decent building but horrible traffic around and impossible for litigators (if any hired by CAM) to reach court at short notice
Goswami 13 Mar 2015, 16:35
+5 -6
Has Sam finalised who will head the Mumbai office ? Kian please advise

What happened to Bharucha or almt merger talks ? Still on? Abhijit Joshi ?

Anyone moving from delhi? Naval ?

The nation needs to know !!!
robin hood 13 Mar 2015, 16:44
+35 -3
I think he chose Saket as his firm will predominantly do work in the Saket district court (after foreign law firms come in and poach all the bright young lawyers with HC, SC and arbitration experience).
Too good! 13 Mar 2015, 17:24
+0 -0
Great one
Byculla 13 Mar 2015, 17:31
+5 -2
Hope Hildul picks a legal location in Mum. Unlike Del as Okhla is technically an industrial area. Ironically the office is operating on illegal use in Okhla. I could be wrong but from what I know.
Guest 13 Mar 2015, 19:14
+0 -4
Saket is good. Trilegal's office is there too now.
Bhooka 14 Mar 2015, 04:10
+45 -4
Yes, that's because Trilegal's litigation practice is also now reduced to Saket district court only :-)
Guest 14 Mar 2015, 13:57
+1 -0
Perhaps you're right. you know, with Sreesanth being a regular visitor and people being fanboyzzzz.
Kitna? 14 Mar 2015, 07:48
+1 -0
How man square feet has lyril taken? Hildul has 100,000 in Okhla
Saket 14 Mar 2015, 11:28
+3 -2
10000 sq ft
tortoise 14 Mar 2015, 10:45
+1 -1
LI is really not up to it this time. This is really stale news. BTW latest rumour is that cam has announced its partner promotions.

Also more about recruitment please. Know of many lawyers who are looking to switch to sam-mum and cam-del.
Guest 14 Mar 2015, 12:36
+0 -0
Amarchand II would be a prequel or a sequel?
anon 14 Mar 2015, 13:01
+0 -1
Heard Cyril has raided KCO for quite a few hires - Kian, any info?
Bird watcher 14 Mar 2015, 15:07
+1 -4
Little birdie said that KCO Litigation has suffered major jolt.
Observer 15 Mar 2015, 07:10
+21 -3
If amss is hiring Kco Delhi people, then God bless Cyril's Delhi office
Curious 18 Mar 2015, 05:38
+0 -1
I'm curious to know why exactly do you think so about the people at KCo, Delhi? Considering the amount of people who've recommended your comment, it seems many share your thoughts. But, can you please enlighten me as to what reasons do you have in your knowledge to say so? Personally, what I've heard from many people working in other top firms in Delhi is that the litigation department at KCo, Delhi is in fact very, very good.
Hike? 18 Mar 2015, 05:58
+0 -0
Does that mean that KCo will further raise the salaries of its Associates?!
Can someone confirm if KCo really is, at this moment, the highest paying Firm in the country, at least as far as salaries of fresh graduates is concerned?
Outsider 18 Mar 2015, 16:52
+3 -0
They are currently offering 15 lakh p.a. to freshers; don't know of any other firm, with the possible exceptions of P&A and occasional offers from S&R, which is matching that.
Bonus 18 Mar 2015, 19:07
+0 -0
15L is inclusive of bonus, right?
Lyril 14 Mar 2015, 15:01
+0 -1
Any idea if Hildul merging his shop with Majmudar & Partners, Mumbai ?
Neema Rose 15 Mar 2015, 06:06
+2 -2
So convenient to put up anything a person wants. No one is going to verify, anyway.

I say, Hildul be the shizz.
Duhh 15 Mar 2015, 11:29
+2 -2
Then Mumbai for hildul will close even before opening....lol!!
Lyril 15 Mar 2015, 14:14
+0 -0
Majmudar didn't recruit me...paying for its sins...LOL
Srk from okhla 15 Mar 2015, 03:49
+3 -7
Hildul is starting his Mumbai office at prabhadevi at the old office that lliril used before he moved to peninsula . Nice place but small.. Hildul has tplanned a small outfit. In line also with the level of acceptances from lateral. About 4000 to 5000 feet. Very sensible plan. Good luck hildul . We are with you .
Observer 15 Mar 2015, 07:10
+4 -0
5000 square feet?? Lol!!
Srk from okhla 15 Mar 2015, 08:13
+2 -1
What's so funny mr observer ? Sensible to start in a sustainable way instead of fantasy growth especially when foreign firms are coming in?

Hildul is a numbers guy and won't make crazy decisions. Starting small for few years is good and mature. Hildul is no fool.
Prem Chopra 15 Mar 2015, 18:35
+3 -0
Partner meeting at okhla postponed to Tuesday
Split will be officially told to delhi partners . Finallyyyyyy!!!!!
After the whole world knows it
Amss delhi partner 16 Mar 2015, 03:54
+24 -3
Wonder why none of the delhi partners have the guts to ask hildul what is the plan on split. The entire world knows split is happening from April. All the partners at Mumbai know its happening. All the partners in other firms know its happening because they are getting calls from head hunters. The ONLY ones who do not know at least officially are the delhi partners . Strange in the extreme. We will leave en masse after the split obviously. Impossible to understand the motivations it has become impossible for us to talk to our teams or to explain to clients. We are partners. Not employees

Hope SSS alias hildul gives the entire picture at the meeting on Tuesday . Or we are leaving in April . We need to know right now what the truth is . From the horses mouth or we will vote with our feet . And take our teams and clients with us.

Other delhi partners please join in. And raise your voice . NOW .
Laughing Buddha 16 Mar 2015, 06:31
+9 -2
Who should the other partners join? Why don't you designate a tea shop in Okhla where the mutineers can meet, if you are willing to start stomping your feet [b]first[/b] on Tuesday?

P.S. If partners at Amarchand had any clout, they would not be treated like doormats. Partners who [s]are treated like family [/s] matter have been given all the info. Big guns like Madhurima Mukherjee, Rahul Guptan, Bharucha etc. departed without creating much dent; so save the threat of leaving with clients. LOL.
Guest 16 Mar 2015, 07:08
+1 -1
That’s some mutiny being brewed. So the threat is premised only on knowing something from the horses mouth, which you anyway know. So much display of maturity on a Monday morning is just what Hildul needs. Clearly you aren’t a partner or if so, Hildul needs to clearly demote you.
Bling 16 Mar 2015, 09:21
+5 -0
Obviously he is not a partner- not even an associate at AMSS- whoever declares a rebellion on Legally India
Lyril stop! 16 Mar 2015, 09:58
+6 -0
Stop posting messages you bombay guys!
Read the court papers instead and if you still want to be with CSS and didn't take the warnings of Bharucha then you deserve your fate!
Partner in Crime 16 Mar 2015, 14:12
+5 -3
Jaane de, jaane de, thodi hawa aane de!
Haha! 17 Mar 2015, 04:23
+1 -1
Partner indeed! B-t-w AMSS Mumbai guys read LI as well for updates.
Himesh Lover..!!! 16 Mar 2015, 10:33
+1 -0
Making "Gadarchand" finallised HR to play Lyrilchand now looking for an appropriate actor to portray hildulchand.. any suggestions???
insider 16 Mar 2015, 19:19
+3 -0
tomorrow's meeting has been cancelled
Why? 17 Mar 2015, 07:24
+1 -0
Why changes ?
Observer 17 Mar 2015, 07:37
+0 -0
Is this meeting to announce any takeovers?
Champ 18 Mar 2015, 14:59
+2 -0
THERE IS NO PARTNER MEETING HAPPENING AT AMSS DELHI . THEY DONT FEEL LIKE TELLING ANYTHING. BECAUSE THEY THINK PARTNERS ARE ASSOCIATES FOR THEM AND ASSOCIATES ARE NOT REQUIRED TO BE INFORMED , THEY DONT GIVE ANY RESPECT TO THE PARTNERS OF THE FIRM. ITS ONLY FOR BILLING PURPOSES THEY MAKE PARTNERS. THE BONUS GIVEN IS NOT AT ALL GOOD .

GUYS AT DELHI GO TO SOMEONE WHO CARES AND RESPECT YOU GUYS

SHARDUL AND PALLAVI DONT CARE ABOUT LOYALITY, THEY GIVE A DAMM. ACCHE DIN NAVAL CHOPRA KE

CYRIL ON THE OTHER HAND KEEP S ALL PARTNERS IN THE LOOP OR INFORM THEM.
Curious George 17 Mar 2015, 03:19
+3 -0
Kian bhai

I have no doubt that you are aware of the new hires by CAM. Why you no report? Waiting for official confirmation?

Curious George
guest 17 Mar 2015, 08:02
+3 -0
Mixed bag of luthra kco kochar and alumni
gossip girl 17 Mar 2015, 11:34
+2 -0
bahut hard to confirm. Alumni is easiest to figure. Laterals not so much - everyone in khaitan and Azb claims that they have been contacted, but no one confirms that they have been offered.
For got 17 Mar 2015, 18:22
+1 -1
Luthra?? Really??
kianganz 17 Mar 2015, 11:37
+0 -1
We're working on it. :)

But obviously, everyone is keeping things very hush-hush right now, so things are hard to confirm. See Gossip girl's comment below also...
KCO 17 Mar 2015, 11:47
+0 -0
Are there any partners joining from KCO Corporate Delhi Team ?
Ramji Londonwale 17 Mar 2015, 16:16
+0 -2
YEES!!! (Un)Confirmed news of 3.
Vishnuji Amreekawale 17 Mar 2015, 18:00
+0 -1
Name them!
Shivji Singaporewale 18 Mar 2015, 05:03
+0 -0
Very Bad!!!
KCO 17 Mar 2015, 18:59
+1 -2
Who all ??
Ramji Londonwale 18 Mar 2015, 03:59
+0 -0
Yaar, you are in HR. Go do some work yourself!
KCO 17 Mar 2015, 19:04
+1 -1
how many joining from Luthra Corporate Delhi Team?
Guest 17 Mar 2015, 19:38
+1 -1
Kian Bhai, kuchh khabar dijiye - is this the beginning of the end? Two brothers fighting take down the empire and with them the market?
oracle 18 Mar 2015, 05:02
+16 -16
It seems like lyril camp has collected all the garbage for its Delhi office. There is a certain lack of vision and strategy and focus is just on creating the presence with some 50-60 good for nothing lawyers, most of whom (essentially the partners) are incapable of bringing new clients (or even maintaining the existing ones) and some of them are purely dumb. The quality of lawyers can easily be understood from the fact that they have been poached from kco Delhi office, which essentially is a dd team for kco Mumbai office and lawyers from Luthra Delhi office who were left behind by there own partners and not poached by any other firm. looks like the poor brother is struggling to get the real talent coz he can't offer good money and get good lawyers.
Lutyen 18 Mar 2015, 06:10
+2 -0
I think KCo and Luthra are the only Firms out of the Big 6 which have their offices in a good location and close to the main Courts, in the heart of the city. Rest, all seem to be in industrial areas, Gurgaon and where not!
Personally, it would be a big factor to incline myself to choose KCo over the others.
Oracle ka baap 18 Mar 2015, 09:23
+3 -0
Hey oracle can you share the names of the hires that cam has made at delhi ? ? That would give more substance to what you say.

Btw does anyone know if hildul is going to hold a partner meeting at all? And if so when? Oracle what are your views on hiring by hildul ? Has he got anyone at all? Market rumour is that nobody is closing with him . For obvious reasons . Abhijit fell through. Radhika pereira also fell through. All capital market hires said no thanks. Wadia also declined. Not a soul wants to join hildul Oracle please enlighten us you seem to know everything . And will surely know this
I know who you are my friend! 18 Mar 2015, 09:47
+0 -0
So obvious!
Anon 18 Mar 2015, 09:31
+4 -1
After getting so much money why does hildul want to work. I better call it a day Maybe that's the plan. Hand over to son in law and then retire . No point managing a complex firm that has slipped out of his hand. . Will lose money
Rather enjoy the money. And relaxxxxxx
London observer 18 Mar 2015, 16:04
+14 -0
I am surprised (perhaps, not) by these comments of the "son-in-law" being the heir/ leader of Mumbai or Delhi office, etc. etc. What a patriarchal view. Shardul and Pallavi have a daughter who is a partner in her own right, why isn't she considered as the successor in the commentator's view? Do all inheritances have to be left to sons or son-in-laws in India these days too?
Country girl 20 Mar 2015, 05:21
+3 -5
Need I cite some examples of sons-in-law at Brit companies/wealthy families for you to get the point??!! Indians are not suckers for patriarchy - there are obvious instances of that though, but we rather live with that than being subject to your hypocritical, self-righteous comments.
London Observer 20 Mar 2015, 12:29
+3 -0
Yes, please do cite examples where the daughter of the owners of such Brit companies/wealthy families are also in an equal level/position in the relevant field to the son-in-laws, but the inheritance has gone solely to the son-in-law. Even assuming you do come up with one or umpteen examples, I still think it is a shame (and not like I think no one any where else in the world is patriarchal – how I wish though).

Also, I don't have any view on whether Pallavi and Shardul (i.e. a wealthy Indian family) feel that Naval should be their successor or not, my observation was on the views of the commentators. I believe Shweta and Naval are both good lawyers so I can’t understand why every single comment (to all articles) I have read about a leadership position in the firm / inheritance has always said that things will go to Naval!

Making a personal attack against me (probably because I am based in London) is a bit strange – I think you are missing the point Country “Girl” (really?). I am no less patriotic about India than you are; but that doesn't mean I won’t express my allegedly “hypocritical and self-righteous comments” rather than “live with it” like you. Wow, that’s some angst you feel about my comment!
Khaitan insider 21 Mar 2015, 09:49
+4 -2
I want to respond to comment 28 from Oracle about KCO Delhi being a DD back office... the deal quality in Delhi is very good..ask the associates/SAs working there.. its not dependant on only what Mumbai gives and unlike Lyril or Hildul KCO partners do share mandates across Delhi and Mumbai and even Bangalore for that matter..second pay scales for associates in Delhi corp is the same as Mumbai..no Delhi discount so obviously Delhi corp is doing well cos no one is going to fund growth indefinitely.. infact it has been very profitable in the last 5 years. Most importantly, if you know anyone in the delhi office ask them how they are treated.. and you will get your answer to why people chose to work at KCo. So clearly not oracle of Omaha..more like the oracle in the matrix baking cookies and talking shit..
KCO insider from Mumbai 21 Mar 2015, 10:36
+2 -4
Senti mat ho yaar..DD kar kar ke tera dimaag pak gaya hai..BTW good salary is not equal to good laywer..But so long as you are happy in KCO Delhi and the fact that you do not even realise (or understand)what is quality work, life enjoy kar.
guest 21 Mar 2015, 13:19
+0 -0
Kian, are you blocking comments pertaining to the cam recruits. Y no names yet.
thali ka baigan 21 Mar 2015, 17:45
+0 -0
mmmmm
Khaitan insider 23 Mar 2015, 05:47
+0 -0
Kian/Prachi why aren't you adding any more comments?
kianganz 23 Mar 2015, 06:56
+0 -0
That thread was a bit trolly-countertrolly, so locked it down, sorry.
Khaitan insider 23 Mar 2015, 09:14
+0 -0
so you allow people to make specific comments about a firm's office without knowing S#@t and when an insider reacts you consider that trolling?
kianganz 23 Mar 2015, 10:17
+0 -0
If you can set the record straight in a more civil way, that'd be great...