Luthra launches radical strategy shake-up after ‘profitability beating’: promotes two partners, 17 associates

Saraf: Aims to increase margins
Saraf: Aims to increase margins

Luthra & Luthra has promoted two M&A and private equity lawyers – Damini Bhalla and Amit Shetye – to its partnership, as the firm has widened its executive committee and management outlined a strategic vision to ditch lower margin work and eschew big headcounts.

Bhalla initially practised in Luthra’s Mumbai office, then spent two years in Clifford Chance in London, before returning to Luthra in Delhi.

Shetye joined Luthra in 2007 from ICICI Bank in Mumbai.

Bhalla and Shetye both graduated in 2005, from Nalsar Hyderabad and ILS Pune respectively. Last year Luthra had promoted a total of six to partner.

The firm promoted eight lawyers to managing associate, and nine to senior associate level (see below).

Luthra also expanded its executive committee from three partners – managing partner Rajiv Luthra, senior partner Mohit Saraf, and Delhi project finance partner Sameen Vyas – to six, by adding Mumbai projects partner Vijaya Rao, Delhi corporate partner Samir Dudhoria, and Delhi regulatory partner Sundeep Dudeja.

Saraf said that Saturday (3 August) began with a “big town hall meeting”, with nearly all lawyers and support staff from all offices flying into Delhi. “Everybody got together, discussed directions of the firm, restructuring, and what we expect in the market.”

The promotions were announced later that day at an evening function held at the Sheraton hotel, at which several awards were also handed out to lawyers in the firm.

The intellectual property and IT team under partner Gayatri Roy won the team of the year, and Mumbai banking and finance partner Bikash Jhawar was given the ‘partners solitaire’ award – “the highest award we give to anybody” in the firm, said senior partner Mohit Saraf, for “the way he built the business, the way he built the team, the next level in client services, all those leadership qualities”.

Strategy

Earlier on Saturday Saraf said he had announced a radical realignment of the firm’s strategy after the firm had grown too large for the past few years, “spreading too thin” in terms of the work it did.

“Our profitability has taken a beating,” he admitted, adding: “We understand that in 2013 the level of things have to be far better if we want to be ahead of the curve. How do you transform this firm as a go-to-firm for all transaction matters in corporate law?”

The strategy going forward would neither focus on being the largest firm in headcounts nor offices – it currently has offices in Delhi, Mumbai and Bangalore – explained Saraf and Rajiv Luthra. Instead it would “do very niche transactional” work at high billing rates and not compete on price with rivals.

“The biggest pressure was that [other comparable-size firms] was dropping rates on anything, and we don’t want to stay in that market. That is not our market, not what we are known as,” noted Saraf. “Routine matters do not actually give you an opportunity of what value you can bring to the table.” Therefore, Luthra would get out of routine matters and “focus on very high-end transactional work”. [Clarification: Saraf has clarified that he intended to refer to pricing pressure across the industry, rather than just pricing pressure from one firm]

Rajiv Luthra commented that over the years the firm gradually started getting into bulk and lower-margin work. “Now we are trying to get out of that because it takes the same management time and rather than have a vision of a 1,000 lawyer firm […]. We felt, let’s focus on the 80/20 rule” – the principle that 20 per cent of clients in most organisations generate 80 per cent of revenues.

“[The idea is not] that we stop small work completely,” he clarified. “The idea is to do small work for big potential clients. But not do small work for small clients who have no potential. [To] focus on the 20 per cent, rather than the 80.”

[Detailed analysis of Luthra’s new strategy coming soon]

Legally India reported yesterday that one partner – Nivedita Tiwari - had joined smaller firm MNK Law Offices, and two others were due to leave the firm in the coming months.

J Sagar Associates (JSA) had promoted 18 into salaried partnership and two into equity, Amarchand Mangaldas had promoted 13 to partner in July, Trilegal none, Khaitan two into equity and five into salaried level, AZB a total of five.

New Luthra managing associates:

  • Anshul Jain (regulatory)
  • Kaushik Laik (capital markets)
  • Khushi Mishra (insurance)
  • Nirupam Lodha (intellectual property)
  • Vaibhav Suri (real estate)
  • Vishal Yaduvanshi (capital markets)
  • Atul Ninawat (direct tax)
  • Gunjan Mishra (indirect tax)

New senior associates:

  • Sujatha Balachander (litigation)
  • Garima Chauhan (tax)
  • Manshoor Nazki (capital markets)
  • Mayank Aggarwal (tax)
  • Komal Mehta (capital markets)
  • Priyanka Singh (project finance)
  • Vivek Aggarwal (corporate compliance)
  • Apoorve Vashistha (litigation)
  • Vardhan Tulsian (litigation)

Comments

edits 4 Aug 2013, 17:47
+5 -2
Its bikash and not vikash. Also damini and amit were promoted from managing associates to partners, not from partners to partner ship. Also its samir and not sameer.
kianganz 4 Aug 2013, 18:10
+5 -5
Thanks for pointing out the typos! We have tended to publish the first draft and then proof-read and spell check as it's live, but seems like readers are increasingly faster than us these days, giving us barely a 5 minute window... :)
BigDaddyWatcher 5 Aug 2013, 05:13
+22 -3
In modern history of law firms in India, there hasn't been a more Nero-esque policy than the 3 year lock-in. There is not a thing that it hasn't spoiled for Luthra - it's impacted hiring, it's bred fear in the employees and it has led to the accumulation of many reluctant lawyers too scared to quit - I think the first and the most significant measure that this firm can take to turn over a new leaf is to drop the lock-in. Till then they will be locked-in in negativity.
UncleFester 6 Aug 2013, 03:55
+24 -0
@BigDaddyWatcher - Absolutely correct.

When there is such vast variety of positions available for lawyers (we're talking creme de la creme of the recruit-able fresh graduates/ PQE 1+ laterals, not some hapless, witless lawyers), can one truly afford to cling on to a tyrannous mentality of squeezing them for every ounce of their blood, sweat and time for profit margins without treating them fairly? The firms which embodied this model are all either extinct today, or rotting at the bottom of every conceivable ranking/ table or on their way there. It is this 'sweat-shop' image that firms leaping ahead have done everything imaginable to shun in favor of a more generous, affable and fair image.

A simple 6 point check-list to know when it is time for a serious shake-up for your firm.

1. When you hire projecting yourself to be BigLaw or expect work done like it's one or snatch away lawyers from other BigLaw claiming yourself to be one as well, but pay inferior to your competitors.

2. When you promise salary revisions in offer letters (maybe even two such upward revisions in a single year) but after the lawyer joins you renege, and on being asked about it you arrogantly dismiss it.

3. When, year on year, you dole out pittances as bonuses to lawyers with pomposity who by then realize that their back-bencher classmates working more comfortable hours for your competitors get higher packages.

4. When you insist on a host of other 'Nero-esque policies' designed to make your lawyers more miserable and unhappy.

5. When you have to counter attrition by clawing-back your juniors' hard earned money and making them struggle and 'pay' for an exit instead of making them feel more fond and attached to your firm.

As a consequence while your intake may comprise of lawyers other top firms would jump at the opportunity to hire, only a slim percentage of that intake will actually stick around for any substantial time. For the time that it does, it will probably be restless and under perform because you've sucked the life out of them.

Sun Tzu once said - Keep your soldiers well fed, rested and in good morale or perish. In battle, they are the ones who'll fight to win for you and live on, and let you live, to tell your tale.
Mangaldas 4 Aug 2013, 18:09
+22 -4
It's a pity that one needs to blame other firms for one's own strategies gone wrong.
sff 4 Aug 2013, 22:03
+19 -1
Have they realized their practice of "locking in" to force young lawyers to work 3yrs breeds disgust & contempt across law firms? Truly wonder if in their strategy brain storming they stumbled on that little gem. I have known some good lawyers to have declined to work at luthra because who in their right mind wants to work at a low pay with bad hours, and then have to forfeit salary, bonus, dignity and good relations to want to leave before 3 years!!! Mass attrition time at luthra. On 1 hand you have the JSA model of treating lawyers superbly well and sending them off with a pat on the back and on the other you have the luthra model of threatening contract clauses and ugly fights! Clearly one of them works and the other fails miserably. Where does this firm go from now - sinks further or fixes things to rise back up?
Have details? 5 Aug 2013, 04:46
+5 -18
You speak of attrition at Luthra. How many lawyers have left recently? How many of them with less than 3 years at the firm? Has Luthra enforced this bond? I heard they have probably used this twice in all the years it has been. Learn to put things in perspective
@ Have details? 5 Aug 2013, 07:37
+19 -1
There have been some ugly fights with departing associates. Fights that showed poor taste. You are [u]either [/u] not aware of the details [u]or [/u] you haven't been around long enough to know [u]or[/u] you're simply bullshitting despite knowing it all!
ex Luthraite 5 Aug 2013, 10:38
+19 -1
They've threatened to enforce the notorious bond on several occasions. What this did was to create an atmosphere of negativity and fear. Attrition has been high but nearly all exits were prefaced by long negotiations on why the bond should not be enforced in a particular circumstance. Alas, that didn't work for some and salaries were forfeited and good relations turned sour. My exit from another tier 1 firm got me an expensive going away present, admiration for my services and encouragement to join back if there was an opening. To put things in perspective would be to say that the bond has been enforced in an arbitrary manner and has inflicted damage on Luthra to no end. Having said that, I do get a positive sentiment reading the interviews of the top brass and it is admirable that mistakes are being admitted to. How many firms can boast of leadership which is capable of that? Although I wish this had happened earlier, I feel this may signal winds of change and enable a more positive outlook towards the firm by the current stock of members and those who join the Luthra alumni. The reputation and messages that the alumni carry weighs extremely heavily and should not be underestimated - more so because those are the one's interacting with the industry outside of Luthra. The day an ex member encourages young lawyers to join Luthra and compliments the way members are tended to, it would be the firm which would have won respect, admiration and envy.

[quote name="Have details?"]You speak of attrition at Luthra. How many lawyers have left recently? How many of them with less than 3 years at the firm? Has Luthra enforced this bond? I heard they have probably used this twice in all the years it has been. Learn to put things in perspective[/quote]
Guest 6 Aug 2013, 11:11
+0 -0
[quote name="ex Luthraite"]They've threatened to enforce the notorious bond on several occasions. What this did was to create an atmosphere of negativity and fear. Attrition has been high but nearly all exits were prefaced by long negotiations on why the bond should not be enforced in a particular circumstance. Alas, that didn't work for some and salaries were forfeited and good relations turned sour. My exit from another tier 1 firm got me an expensive going away present, admiration for my services and encouragement to join back if there was an opening. To put things in perspective would be to say that the bond has been enforced in an arbitrary manner and has inflicted damage on Luthra to no end. Having said that, I do get a positive sentiment reading the interviews of the top brass and it is admirable that mistakes are being admitted to. How many firms can boast of leadership which is capable of that? Although I wish this had happened earlier, I feel this may signal winds of change and enable a more positive outlook towards the firm by the current stock of members and those who join the Luthra alumni. The reputation and messages that the alumni carry weighs extremely heavily and should not be underestimated - more so because those are the one's interacting with the industry outside of Luthra. The day an ex member encourages young lawyers to join Luthra and compliments the way members are tended to, it would be the firm which would have won respect, admiration and envy.

[quote name="Have details?"]You speak of attrition at Luthra. How many lawyers have left recently? How many of them with less than 3 years at the firm? Has Luthra enforced this bond? I heard they have probably used this twice in all the years it has been. Learn to put things in perspective[/quote][/quote]

Now one can't just up and quit, associates are locked-in for 3 years and have been told that "enforcing the bond" in itself is almost non-negotiable.
Anon 4 Aug 2013, 18:35
+12 -7
Luthra did small work and stayed away from big work because that's the only work they got. They were never a premium brand like Amss or azb. They do not have lawyers remotely of he stature that Amss has. This is just a reaction to the severe bleeding of partners that they had. Too little too late . Also Amss charges high premiums . So it's a fallacy to say they dropped rates. Khaitan has a reputation for low balling . It's actually Khaitan that's killed the Luthra model beyond repair.
Anon 5 Aug 2013, 03:02
+5 -0
[quote name="Anon"]Luthra did small work and stayed away from big work because that's the only work they got. They were never a premium brand like Amss or azb. They do not have lawyers remotely of he stature that Amss has. This is just a reaction to the severe bleeding of partners that they had. Too little too late . Also Amss charges high premiums . So it's a fallacy to say they dropped rates. Khaitan has a reputation for low balling . It's actually Khaitan that's killed the Luthra model beyond repair.[/quote]
Khaitan picked up its strategy from its neighbours in Mumbai - Trilegal!! KCo has merely responded.
GPRS 4 Aug 2013, 18:36
+3 -3
heard that the firm has also revised it's salary structures?
really? 5 Aug 2013, 05:01
+2 -0
Will be a pleasant surprise. A concept unfamilar here.
Guest 5 Aug 2013, 06:24
+1 -0
[quote name="GPRS"]heard that the firm has also revised it's salary structures?[/quote]
Haha, good one!
Not been paid 6 Aug 2013, 09:59
+5 -1
[quote name="Guest"][quote name="GPRS"]heard that the firm has also revised it's salary structures?[/quote]
Haha, good one![/quote]

Yeah! They have. Its called cutting salary for obtuse reasons and holding bonuses for months at a stretch!!
Motorboat 4 Aug 2013, 18:37
+8 -3
The Luthra strategy is a joke . They do not have the standing to pull off a premium strategy . Which large and complex deal have they done in last few years? Any ?
anon 5 Aug 2013, 07:30
+2 -6
wake up mr motorboat. luthra is a powerhouse of complex M&A. They led the 4 billion USD abbot piramal acquisition, then the abbot solvay abbot matter which was also in few billion USD, tata starbucks joint venture, blackstone's multimillion invetsment in moserbaer, and the recent biggest IT contract ever- the PVR bookmyshow deal. the Firm is ranked highly by Chambers and Partners, IFLR etc etc and (infact was awarded Firm of the Year by Chambers and Partners) in 2012.
Dazed 4 Aug 2013, 19:02
+12 -2
Luthra claims AMSs dropping rates. And increasing headcount. Why doesn't Luthra follow Khaitan model which in 6 years has broken into the top league and develop their own strategy on what works best. Or the new JSA model of investing in niche practices and opening up the equity. All the best to Damini and Amit.
Just Curious 4 Aug 2013, 19:08
+6 -0
Kian -- so what awards did the best team and best partner get? More BMWs? Or has recession kicked in.
sparrow 4 Aug 2013, 21:23
+4 -6
What is this nonsense about small clients, big clients, small work of big clients etc. Their accepting a mandate depends on the 'potential' of a client becoming a big client! Are they lawyers or brokers? How will they get premium quality work--by showcasing Mr. Saraf or Mr. Luthra? Forget Amarchand or JSA or Khaitan; in terms of quality they are nowhere even close to Platinum or S&R or the Bharuchas. [...]
Khaitan & Qaulity???? 9 Aug 2013, 16:03
+3 -1
Goo One...what keeps Khaitan going is its motto of providing pocket friendly services. It does not care much about quality. Even its clients know that what Khaitan gives them is good clerical services devoid of any legal acumen
sff 4 Aug 2013, 22:02
+5 -0
Have they realized their practice of "locking in" to force young lawyers to work 3yrs breeds disgust & contempt across law firms? Truly wonder if in their strategy brain storming they stumbled on that little gem. I have known some good lawyers to have declined to work at luthra because who in their right mind wants to work at a low pay with bad hours, and then have to forfeit salary, bonus, dignity and good relations to want to leave before 3 years!!! Mass attrition time at luthra. On 1 hand you have the JSA model of treating lawyers superbly well and sending them off with a pat on the back and on the other you have the luthra model of threatening contract clauses and ugly fights! Clearly one of them works and the other fails miserably. Where does this firm go from now - sinks further or fixes things to rise back up?
Scooter insider 5 Aug 2013, 01:59
+3 -8
This is actually a clear contraction strategy. The opposite of growth. This will mean lesser practice areas lesser hiring lesser promotions. It will impact hiring of good people. The real story is that for personal reasons rajiv does not wish to expand. He wants to cut down. They have no succession plan . And he does not want to leave it all to MOHIT Saraf. [...] That is the real story.
insider as well 5 Aug 2013, 04:32
+2 -0
Scooter clearly you are not an insider, alternatively, you're clueless.
Nonsense 5 Aug 2013, 02:03
+17 -7
The real price competitor is Luthra itself. At least in capital markets Mesdame madhurima usually gives the lowest quotes. And screws it up for all. If she now has to quote full fare its doubtful she will win any business at all. The others will take the field . She who lives by the sword dies by the sword. [...]
Tutor 5 Aug 2013, 06:00
+0 -3
i recall CIL ....
Anon 5 Aug 2013, 11:20
+7 -1
Good memory you have. All government deals are awarded to lowest bidder. For every deal LL has not won, someone else has undercut! Compile the data and you will know who is undercutting. Quoting low one off could be strategic, and does not make this firm a 'real price competitor'. You dont go LL for capital markets, because they are cheap. That virtue is better saved for others trying to get into this space.

Mohit seems to be suggesting undercutting generally in the market - which is a matter of fact and sad. Good move to acknowledge it and might augur well for the industry. Hope the peers have his resolve, and we could all be looking at better prospects.
Guest 5 Aug 2013, 06:02
+2 -1
Where is TRILEGAL???
In House Counsel 5 Aug 2013, 06:22
+5 -0
While I agree Luthra is (was?) a price warrior firm, it certainly isn't the only one and Madhurima is far from the worst example even in Luthra.
Guest 5 Aug 2013, 06:31
+5 -5
@ Nonsense. L&L Cap Mar gets work coz of their quality and not price cuts. They have always been involved in the top cap market deals and that cant be because of pricing. Has to be quality.
Objectivity 5 Aug 2013, 06:42
+4 -0
Really? You believe lowest quotes has screwed it up all and not the market? With associates moving away from capital markets, kaam kahan hai undercut karne ko?

As Rajiv would say - Wake up and smell the coffee, my friend! :)
Guest 5 Aug 2013, 06:57
+5 -0
[quote name="Nonsense"]The real price competitor is Luthra itself. At least in capital markets Mesdame madhurima usually gives the lowest quotes. And screws it up for all. If she now has to quote full fare its doubtful she will win any business at all. The others will take the field . She who lives by the sword dies by the sword. [...][/quote]
Glad you clarified the nature of your statement in your choice of name :) Clearly pricing isn't an issue, coz it doesn't work either way for you. Match the quality, and you'll see the field open up for you as well.
Reality Check 5 Aug 2013, 08:23
+5 -4
[quote name="Nonsense"]The real price competitor is Luthra itself. At least in capital markets Mesdame madhurima usually gives the lowest quotes. And screws it up for all. If she now has to quote full fare its doubtful she will win any business at all. The others will take the field . She who lives by the sword dies by the sword. [...][/quote]

Chappie, you're clearly out of your league here. I understand that the situation of the markets or perhaps the quality of your counsel may have affected whatever fledgling capital markets fraternity you belong to, but no point taking it out on the real big guns here. Don't think it behooves much explanation that the LL capital markets practice has always been, and continues to be expensive and sought after. The markets know it, the fraternity knows it, clients know it - tu bhi seekh le!

If you really wanna know whose undercutting, a trip to one of the DoD presentations for government deals would be a start, I say.....
Client says- Arrogant much?? 5 Aug 2013, 09:11
+7 -2
[quote name="Reality Check"][quote name="Nonsense"]The real price competitor is Luthra itself. At least in capital markets Mesdame madhurima usually gives the lowest quotes. And screws it up for all. If she now has to quote full fare its doubtful she will win any business at all. The others will take the field . She who lives by the sword dies by the sword. [...][/quote]

Chappie, you're clearly out of your league here. I understand that the situation of the markets or perhaps the quality of your counsel may have affected whatever fledgling capital markets fraternity you belong to, but no point taking it out on the real big guns here. Don't think it behooves much explanation that the LL capital markets practice has always been, and continues to be expensive and sought after. The markets know it, the fraternity knows it, clients know it - tu bhi seekh le!

If you really wanna know whose undercutting, a trip to one of the DoD presentations for government deals would be a start, I say.....[/quote]

Being good and being humble about it is attractive to clients... being belligerent and arrogant about it.... turn off!!
This kind of arrogance is the reason why this Firm is suffering from a lack of work.. though they might seem to think or want to think otherwise....
If you're arrogant and you know it.. clap your hands.... WOW where did that noise come from?
Car man 5 Aug 2013, 02:07
+5 -0
What ? No more BMW gifts ? Heck!
Anon 5 Aug 2013, 03:23
+4 -3
For a number 5 pr 6 player this is exactly the wrong strategy. Moving to a premium strategy is a luxury only top two firms have. In a recessionary market with excess supply of lawyers , one has to be crazy to move to a premium strategy as a number 5 firm. . Very tough days ahead for the firm . This is an absolute disaster for Luthra. Expect massive more attrition which will Show up at Khaitan and Amss . The best will leave very quickly. Not that there are many good ones left.
Alias 5 Aug 2013, 04:02
+23 -10
Well to me Luthras strategy seems to be this - be lean, fewer people would mean less pressure to chase multiple deals, less pressure on margins. India is not going to see 5+ GDP number for a long long time and choosing to be lean in such a market is not really a bad idea. Also they may not have chart topping deals in MnA and PE for the last couple of years, but they remain a powerhouse in banking, projects etc. Also got to give the guys credit for giving an honest interview - how many managements will openly admit that profitability is a problem. I think accepting a problem is the first stage in fixing it. It also leads me to believe that Rajiv and Mohit may increase their own presence on deals. I know 2-3 years back Cyril was very worried about losing the MnA space to Zia and that brought back his focus to it - the results are showing today.
Anonymous 5 Aug 2013, 12:15
+5 -3
[quote name="Alias"]It also leads me to believe that Rajiv and Mohit may increase their own presence on deals. [/quote]

To do what? How will they (especially Rajiv) contribute? Don't you know Rajiv Luthra is a law graduate from Agra University (of all places)!
Way to go Agra! 5 Aug 2013, 18:15
+8 -4
[quote name="Anonymous"][quote name="Alias"]It also leads me to believe that Rajiv and Mohit may increase their own presence on deals. [/quote]

To do what? How will they (especially Rajiv) contribute? Don't you know Rajiv Luthra is a law graduate from Agra University (of all places)![/quote]

And yet he set up a Tier 1 firm of 200 lawyers! Clearly your degree from (presumably) an ivy league hasn't taken you too far.
Scooter 6 Aug 2013, 07:24
+0 -0
Such a foolish comment! go check out where these guys are from!
http://supremecourtofindia.nic.in/judges/judges.htm
xyz 6 Aug 2013, 19:07
+4 -0
so you do credit the current state of our judiciary to these colleges?
Scooter 9 Aug 2013, 06:50
+1 -0
If the the current state of the judiciary does not satisfy you (I would agree with you that there are valid reasons), check the background for the ones you do like....

I am from one of the N law schools, so I'm not making a case for myself. Just that summarily rejecting the competence of people who are not, is naive and arrogant.

As most other people, I know people from N schools who are lousy at their work, and people from non-N schools who are fantastic.
In House Counsel 5 Aug 2013, 06:20
+4 -1
Completely agree with Anon, and think that Luthra is making a strategic error here. Very few companies are looking to sanction premium rates for legal advice in this economy, and highly unlikely that there will be enough premium work in the market for 4-5 firms with the same strategy. AZB (most obviously), SNR, Trilegal, AMSS Mumbai, TTA, Platinum, Bharucha, all follow this strategy to a certain extent. Note that the firms in the list are either rated higher on pretty much every count on pretty much every ranking or are smaller than Luthra in terms of overheads, with strong foreign firm ties. Given this competitive landscape, focusing on high end work can only mean pain ahead for the firm in chasing big deals alone.

On Alias' point on choosing to be lean, there is absolutely nothing wrong with it, IF the firm is geared for it. Currently, I don't think it is, with far too much emphasis on the rainmaking abilities of a select few partners. As for admitting a problem with profitability, it seems pretty much standard these days, with every firm globally using this as a basis (justified or unjustified) to trim staff numbers.

Very interestingly, there are very few firms that seem to have thought laterally, and figured out different revenue raising models. While the LPO experiments seem to have not borne fruit, there are various other disruptive mechanisms that companies are happy to try out to obtain cost savings. Maybe a little actual thought leadership would help?
Anon 5 Aug 2013, 14:06
+1 -0
[quote name="In House Counsel"]Completely agree with Anon, and think that Luthra is making a strategic error here. Very few companies are looking to sanction premium rates for legal advice in this economy, and highly unlikely that there will be enough premium work in the market for 4-5 firms with the same strategy. AZB (most obviously), SNR, Trilegal, AMSS Mumbai, TTA, Platinum, Bharucha, all follow this strategy to a certain extent. Note that the firms in the list are either rated higher on pretty much every count on pretty much every ranking or are smaller than Luthra in terms of overheads, with strong foreign firm ties. Given this competitive landscape, focusing on high end work can only mean pain ahead for the firm in chasing big deals alone.

On Alias' point on choosing to be lean, there is absolutely nothing wrong with it, IF the firm is geared for it. Currently, I don't think it is, with far too much emphasis on the rainmaking abilities of a select few partners. As for admitting a problem with profitability, it seems pretty much standard these days, with every firm globally using this as a basis (justified or unjustified) to trim staff numbers.

Very interestingly, there are very few firms that seem to have thought laterally, and figured out different revenue raising models. While the LPO experiments seem to have not borne fruit, there are various other disruptive mechanisms that companies are happy to try out to obtain cost savings. Maybe a little actual thought leadership would help?[/quote]
Can't agree about Bharucha and Trilegal. Platinum, TTA, S&R and AMSS Mumbai, most certainly
Anon 5 Aug 2013, 06:01
+7 -3
Nonsense, seems true to the name! Clearly motivated with some personal agenda, Nonsense seems to be taking Luthra's Capital Markets success personally. Dude, if pricing was the only thing that won work, why were you not attempting to get some for yourself. Drop it man...and lets see you steal some work off Luthra?! Quality mein problem hain kya? sour grapes? bechara.
nanny 5 Aug 2013, 07:54
+7 -14
Luthra pays well and ensures good work for it's non-equity partners. You don't hv kids running helter-skelter for work internally. You don't have partners suddenly dumped with revenue responsibility and with no training other than execution. You have a culture where strong women are celebrated and not seemingly collegiate atmospheres formed by women dumbing down. You don't have hiring for show and then easing out slyly. All these are features of one or other of the competing firms.Luthra has done a lot for law school alumni in terms of compensation, training and dignity. Just putting a perspective.
Abandon Ship 5 Aug 2013, 08:47
+5 -1
[quote name="nanny"]Luthra pays well and ensures good work for it's non-equity partners. You don't hv kids running helter-skelter for work internally. You don't have partners suddenly dumped with revenue responsibility and with no training other than execution. You have a culture where strong women are celebrated and not seemingly collegiate atmospheres formed by women dumbing down. You don't have hiring for show and then easing out slyly. All these are features of one or other of the competing firms.Luthra has done a lot for law school alumni in terms of compensation, training and dignity. Just putting a perspective.[/quote]

I seriously hope that you are being sarcastic. What you said is the ACTUAL REALITY there.
my god! 5 Aug 2013, 11:36
+5 -1
[quote name="Anon"]Nonsense, seems true to the name! Clearly motivated with some personal agenda, Nonsense seems to be taking Luthra's Capital Markets success personally. Dude, if pricing was the only thing that won work, why were you not attempting to get some for yourself. Drop it man...and lets see you steal some work off Luthra?! Quality mein problem hain kya? sour grapes? bechara.[/quote][quote name="nanny"]Luthra pays well and ensures good work for it's non-equity partners. You don't hv kids running helter-skelter for work internally. You don't have partners suddenly dumped with revenue responsibility and with no training other than execution. You have a culture where strong women are celebrated and not seemingly collegiate atmospheres formed by women dumbing down. You don't have hiring for show and then easing out slyly. All these are features of one or other of the competing firms.Luthra has done a lot for law school alumni in terms of compensation, training and dignity. Just putting a perspective.[/quote]

how much did they pay you to write this? or is this the text of the resolution passed in the new exec committee???
Dazed and Confused 5 Aug 2013, 08:08
+5 -1
People should acknowledge Luthra's leadership in being straight about the economic issues the firm and the market faces. Their chosen re-direction may be wrong, their self-image inflated, but they deserve some credit for speaking clearly about market conditions and their attempts to respond to them.

The "leading" firms all get the bulk of their best domestic deals through ethnic ties, social connections and the power of monopoly. Rajiv can very well look at the landscape, decide on the right size for the firm, and scale back until better times return. It's a good call.

The folks in charge of day-to-day at the firm have lost the battle to be a workplace of choice, and so they are losing very desirable work to smaller outfits with better-trained and experienced associates who balk at old-fashioned naukri. They seem especially vulnerable to this trend.

Rajiv is probably better served by scaling back the law firm significantly and concentrating on government relations work that can sustain higher fees and a more flexible business model.

Frankly, this is just business. Anyone who is ranking the "top five" in a closed market lacks a basic understanding of how monopolies work. Rajiv's just re-calibrating his slice of a smaller pie. The market should appreciate his honesty (in this regard), which is distinctive in India.
Aside 5 Aug 2013, 09:19
+3 -3
Strategy aside, why is Madhurima Mukherjee not on the exec committee? Is she not one of the original BMW partners?
Guest 5 Aug 2013, 09:52
+3 -0
ya....but clearly not favourite enought to be on this committee.
to the point 5 Aug 2013, 11:28
+8 -14
ha ha ha..agree. did she not manage to suck up enough or keep her mouth shut often enough to be on the Exec Committee! Good plan not to get her on. She may have spoken the truth too often and that hurts, man!
anon 5 Aug 2013, 12:22
+7 -8
kian- u must censor random personal comments.
Wonderer 5 Aug 2013, 12:32
+15 -7
Its Luthra's loss. Madhurima on a exec committee is better than madhurima in some other firm. Wonder why she would tolerate this insult. Capital markets is down globally. Not her fault. I am sure Mohit cant deal with her IQ and is just plain scared of giving her more say...
Anon 5 Aug 2013, 14:07
+5 -1
[quote name="Nostradamus"]In five years Luthra will not even be in the top 15 firms. Having decided to stop growing its now a slippery slope. A small firm like platinum can grow big. A big firm can never become small without destroying itself. End of the road soon for them . Sad.[/quote]
[quote name="Wonderer"]Its Luthra's loss. Madhurima on a exec committee is better than madhurima in some other firm. Wonder why she would tolerate this insult. Capital markets is down globally. Not her fault. I am sure Mohit cant deal with her IQ and is just plain scared of giving her more say...[/quote]
She may not want to be on it as well!
strange 7 Aug 2013, 16:57
+1 -0
am i the only one who is sensing these comments are written by the same person?
Nostradamus 5 Aug 2013, 09:27
+8 -3
In five years Luthra will not even be in the top 15 firms. Having decided to stop growing its now a slippery slope. A small firm like platinum can grow big. A big firm can never become small without destroying itself. End of the road soon for them . Sad.
Robot 5 Aug 2013, 09:57
+15 -2
[quote name="Guest"]Where is TRILEGAL???[/quote]
Delhi, Mumbai, Bangalore and Hyderabad.
Anon 5 Aug 2013, 10:03
+2 -2
a partner bikash given some fancy-schmancy named award...was it a BMW or an Audi this time around?
Scooter 5 Aug 2013, 10:05
+0 -1
What ambition! Cutting down! wah.
RSG 5 Aug 2013, 10:51
+10 -3
No doubt Luthra has some big foreign clients with deep pockets, but will be very surprised if they can pull off this new strategy. I fail to understand how they intend to “do very niche transactional work at high billing rates" when two of their teams comprise of capital markets (ready to work for anything) and project finance (again, ready to work for anything).

They seem to be going for a high risk - high reward strategy, given the competition and the limited options available otherwise. But at the same time, they ought to take into note that gone are the days when you could charge exorbitant rates in standard PE/ MnA transactions.
Yawn 5 Aug 2013, 12:59
+3 -1
This all sounds like very entertaining PR. Will Luthra actually start turning away work because of low fees. Lets wait and see.
Common man 5 Aug 2013, 17:31
+10 -1
Interesting that a firm other than Amss is getting stick on legally India comments. Luthra is strangely in good company by being a popular target this week. Amss needs a breather, nobody gives a damn for azb these days. Not sure Amss is too proud of the company though. Hilarious circus this is. Think of the mango public. Nothing changes for him. Life goes on as before. Kian next week do K co ! Need some fun ?
Genuine Query... 5 Aug 2013, 17:46
+2 -1
Apart from M&A and Project Finance, will Luthra be ramping up primary practice areas like litigation and conveyancing (real estate) in places like Mumbai as well or will it be limited to Delhi only? Does Luthra still aim at being a full service law firm or has it now turned into a corporate and finance boutique?
Mango Public Party 6 Aug 2013, 04:04
+4 -0
In Luthra's case this seems to be a different league of vituperative railing. Eye opener.
Duck 6 Aug 2013, 10:01
+4 -0
'vituperative '.... nice word that!
In House Counsel 6 Aug 2013, 09:39
+0 -1
[quote name="Common man"]Interesting that a firm other than Amss is getting stick on legally India comments. Luthra is strangely in good company by being a popular target this week. Amss needs a breather, nobody gives a damn for azb these days. Not sure Amss is too proud of the company though. Hilarious circus this is. Think of the mango public. Nothing changes for him. Life goes on as before. Kian next week do K co ! Need some fun ?[/quote]

Just wait for the next articles on Trilegal or Khaitan...
Insight 6 Aug 2013, 17:03
+6 -0
Seems to me most people here are ex LL/ LL. Trilegal/ Khaitan articles will have mudslinging across firms, not dirty laundry being aired publicly. I've read things here which've shocked me.. an article about strategy and promotions has become about revelations and very poor press.. you cannot slap around subordinates and expect them not to find a way to air grievances.. this was probably happening earlier, but now it's reaching a wider audience.. In some way - congratulations LI for many small 'breaking news' items in the comments!
Comments 6 Aug 2013, 08:00
+0 -0
Hi Kian. Is there any way to read the latest comments first (like a sort by date feature)?
kianganz 6 Aug 2013, 09:53
+0 -0
There is, sort of... Below the comments there is the 'comments RSS feed link', which gives you a reverse chronological view (or you can put it in your feed reader, to get an update of only new comments).

http://www.legallyindia.com/index.php?option=com_jcomments&task=rss&object_id=3886&object_group=com_content&format=raw
bull 6 Aug 2013, 08:14
+18 -1
Clearly messed up. Promise salary revisions that don't take place, arbitrarily enforce a bond that appears to be in restraint of trade, and hold these large meetings to air grievances, only to smugly rebuff everything said with 'be happy that your salaries aren't being cut in these times'. Luthra might as well scale back, it isn't fit to be a top 5 law firm, in terms of quality of management at least, even in a closed economy where the top 5 aren't exactly gold standard.
Get Real 6 Aug 2013, 09:25
+1 -0
[quote name="bull"]Clearly messed up. Promise salary revisions that don't take place, arbitrarily enforce a bond that appears to be in restraint of trade, and hold these large meetings to air grievances, only to smugly rebuff everything said with 'be happy that your salaries aren't being cut in these times'. Luthra might as well scale back, it isn't fit to be a top 5 law firm, in terms of quality of management at least, even in a closed economy where the top 5 aren't exactly gold standard.[/quote]

Add to that practice heads who are more concerned with their OWN personal agendas and selfish goals rather than the growth of their respective practice groups or members in the same.
Well wisher 6 Aug 2013, 09:09
+2 -3
Haha is luthra even in the top 5 its mumbai office is smaller than trilegal even
Shoot & Scoot 11 Aug 2013, 13:36
+1 -0
FYI Trilegal has fairly large & robust Mumbai office...
Donkey 6 Aug 2013, 14:14
+19 -0
You know something is fundamentally wrong with a corporate commercial firm when the team of the year is the IP practice, which BTW has lost more than half of its member including a partner and all but one MA (two now)!!!

The attrition in L&L has been accelerating year on year...the management finally smelt the coffee and decided to call it 'strategy'.
Querist 6 Aug 2013, 15:26
+0 -0
[quote name="Donkey"]You know something is fundamentally wrong with a corporate commercial firm when the team of the year is the IP practice, which BTW has lost more than half of its member including a partner and all but one MA (two now)!!!

The attrition in L&L has been accelerating year on year...the management finally smelt the coffee and decided to call it 'strategy'.[/quote]

Why have so many people left? They had quite the formidable IP team.
S 6 Aug 2013, 18:06
+5 -2
"Formidable" - exactly which domain of IP were they formidable in?
avr 7 Aug 2013, 09:36
+1 -1
[quote name="Donkey"]You know something is fundamentally wrong with a corporate commercial firm when the team of the year is the IP practice, which BTW has lost more than half of its member including a partner and all but one MA (two now)!!!

The attrition in L&L has been accelerating year on year...the management finally smelt the coffee and decided to call it 'strategy'.[/quote]


3 MA's from IP so far ;-)
RocKandrolL 6 Aug 2013, 20:09
+2 -0
Wake up and smell the coffee, my friends. Yours must be getting cold. Can't blame ya. It must be the storm on our horizon.

http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2013-07-30/news/40895629_1_banking-licence-job-market-fresh-hiring
Anon 7 Aug 2013, 03:24
+0 -0
:-) :-)
LI ki le li 7 Aug 2013, 13:22
+4 -5
Go Mohit

One of the most honest interviews given, by any senior partner in the recent past, and I am sure Mohit with his flair, aggression and brilliance will pull it off, again. He is clearly acknowledging that profitability has taken a hit and putting in place a course of action which will enable Luthra to see the storm off. Guys – if you recollect, just a decade ago, L&L was only know for projects related work and it was Mohit who had the vision to make L&L a full service firm and started mobilizing resources and now they are in the top league (i.e. - a decent alternative to the AMSSes and the AZBs – both for clients and lawyers alike). A firm which grows aggressively is bound to face consequences – and this is more of a consolidation period. I think by emphasizing on the focus on niche work and profitability he is intending to get rid of the deadwood in the firm and put the firm back on track.
Hold on hope 7 Aug 2013, 14:38
+4 -0
[quote name="LI ki le li"]Go Mohit

One of the most honest interviews given, by any senior partner in the recent past, and I am sure Mohit with his flair, aggression and brilliance will pull it off, again. He is clearly acknowledging that profitability has taken a hit and putting in place a course of action which will enable Luthra to see the storm off. Guys – if you recollect, just a decade ago, L&L was only know for projects related work and it was Mohit who had the vision to make L&L a full service firm and started mobilizing resources and now they are in the top league (i.e. - a decent alternative to the AMSSes and the AZBs – both for clients and lawyers alike). A firm which grows aggressively is bound to face consequences – and this is more of a consolidation period. I think by emphasizing on the focus on niche work and profitability he is intending to get rid of the deadwood in the firm and put the firm back on track.[/quote]


Define "Deadwood"!!

[...] There is no doubt about [Mohit's brilliance]. His vision is dynamic. The only problem - He relies on people ... who have clouded visions driven by their own illusions of self proclaimed grandeur ...some even by their own demons of insecurity. If Mohit can look beyond those people and appreciate others independent of pre-painted biases, his vision will surely become reality... as it has been the case in the past when he used to think and act of his own accord.

There has been a ton of negativity professed by so many about this firm...if they can realize how their people feel about how things are running there.. and take positive cues from this... amend their "strategy"... this firm has enough brain power left to rise above other firms... provided they act now.. else the brain power (and rainmakers) will eventually leave and then all will be lost.

Holding on to hope and waiting for the sun to come out!
LL ki bhi 7 Aug 2013, 19:59
+12 -0
Fair. Give him credit for honesty. Also must blame for the downfall then? The "flair, aggression and brilliance" may well have got them here. How much of luthra's growth story was an offshoot of being in a booming economy? If someone claiming great market understanding fails miserably, wouldn't think of that as his strongest suit to clean up the mess. Who's to say if things are to go from bad to better or worse? Must wait n see what they do now.

If you implied luthra downsized to rid the deadwood, you're mistaken. On good authority- mass exodus of Partners, PAs, SAs, JAs on unprecedented scale was voluntary n lack of heavy recruitment because of slow market n inability to find people unwilling to accept the ridiculous 3yr jail term.
Duck 8 Aug 2013, 13:31
+4 -0
Go Gunjan!
Fan 20 Aug 2013, 04:38
+2 -0
Madhurima not being elevated to executive committee. Definitely there is a story there. Though I wonder if exec committee will have any say since Rajiv and mohit will always call the shots. Smart move by luthra - still no equity or lockstep but a nominal and ceremonial exec committee position.
Was profitability hit because of madhurima's practice. Is she on her way out? Kian, any interest to carry this story further? You also mentioned in the above article that a detailed analysis of luthra's strategy will follow. When is that coming?
kianganz 20 Aug 2013, 04:40
+1 -1
Yes, still planned and scheduled but got side tracked a little... Hope to publish something shortly...
still waiting 27 Aug 2013, 13:01
+0 -1
still waiting for the analysis kian
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