Unexpected last day today for 25 Ashwath fee-earners, partners at CAM, as AZB releases 6 of Percy's early

Billimoria (l) and Rau (r) may have set a new record for shortest associate notice periods ever
Billimoria (l) and Rau (r) may have set a new record for shortest associate notice periods ever

Around 25 fee-earners in the team of Ashwath Rau, who is set to join AZB & Partners Mumbai office with at least three partners from Cyril Amarchand Mangaldas, have been told that today will be their last day in the office, Legally India understands according to multiple authoritative sources.

That number includes two partners in Rau’s team, Anu Tiwari and Dhruv Singhal, while partner Ganesh Rao is still handing over matters at Cyril Amarchand Mangaldas and will not have a day off work tomorrow.

At the same time, six AZB & Partners Delhi fee-earners in senior partner Percy Billimoria’s team, have also been told that they could leave the firm today, ostensibly to join Cyril Amarchand Mangaldas in Delhi with Billimoria.

However, it is understood that leaving dates for Rau and Billimoria have not yet been agreed, though they are subject to negotiation.

Notice periods for associates at Cyril Amarchand are typically two months, while equity partners’ contractual notice periods at firms such as Cyril Amarchand can be up to six months long.

Rau’s partners announced their departures on 23 April, while Billimoria’s leaving for Cyril Amarchand became official only on 25 May.

We have reached out to Rau, Billimoria, Cyril Amarchand managing partner Cyril Shroff, and AZB Mumbai managing partner Zia Mody for comment.

Comments

Amused 31 May 2016, 13:58
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How is this news??
Muse 31 May 2016, 14:55
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Anything and everything about any of the Amarchand's is news my friend ! Legal blogs and the like survive and thrive on this, or how would they get site visits :-)
Humpty Dumptyy 31 May 2016, 15:15
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The downfall of an empire is always news. Remember Lehmann Bros.
Twinkle Twinkle 31 May 2016, 15:41
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Downfall of the empire happened last year dude. Does AMSS ring a bell? This compares with Lehman!

And folks thought with the exodus happening at AZB (Shuva, Joshi etc), downfall of an empire here, was imminent but what a come back, no? So time will tell, if ones falls to rise again ! Thoko Taali :-)
Replacement 31 May 2016, 13:58
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Percy's 6 member team to replace Uberoi's competition team. Cyril is making Delhi the focus.
Dark Knight 31 May 2016, 15:11
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Well to answer the query of Amused.. law firm community is very small in India. And if 25 ppl get laid off at a day's notice from such big names.. it is a pretty big news for the clat aspirants who have barely heard 4 names and CAM may be one of them.. it is a big news for that intern who just toiled his 3rd internship with the hope of getting a job to clear his loan.. and a pretty big news for that lateral who can now plan of applying at CAM..
Clark Kent 31 May 2016, 15:45
+24 -0
Seriously laid off? Didn't they resign one by one, slowly but surely...as per the master plan by AR to ensure his capital from equity is not hampered on account of solicitation ...
ashes to ashes 31 May 2016, 18:29
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*slow clap* You have an insider's observation! any more details on the next phase of the master plan?
Sangeet Practice... 31 May 2016, 15:35
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Yay... 25 peeps! So much space so soon. Surely this calls for Sangeet Party!
Bystander 31 May 2016, 17:37
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Oh God! What happened to you wrt the Sangeet Party! Just tell us and get it off your chest. But no more please.
Why so serious? 31 May 2016, 18:19
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Unless you were one of the dancers? Then it's understandable why the words burn you so. My sympathies.
Bystander 1 Jun 2016, 05:43
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It was funny the first couple of times. I'm just not a fan of beating a dead house I guess. *shrug*
Bystander 1 Jun 2016, 05:53
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*horse, of course
@Bystander 1 Jun 2016, 04:17
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Were you one of the valets who weren't selected to dance? Maybe next time ya. Bade family firms mei choti choti shaadiyan hoti rehti hai.
Bad News for CAM 31 May 2016, 15:41
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Bad news for cam and huge coup for Ashwath Rau and AZB. Top associates moving including starts like [...] (considered widely as Zia Modi of this generation...). Cam cant recover.
So 31 May 2016, 18:08
+4 -1
Hahahahahahahaha! Oh, that made my day!
Names please 1 Jun 2016, 08:45
+4 -0
I want to know who are the "Zia Modi" of this generation?!!
Guest 31 May 2016, 15:47
+2 -0
AZB Mumbai rooftop looks being set up for a party!!!
Rama Rao 1 Jun 2016, 09:34
+2 -0
Did you watch this from P Chambers :P?
Insider 31 May 2016, 15:58
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"Unexpected" for you Kian, not so much for most of us. Now you know why there was an "unexpected" blockade on legal news website sometime back. Save the backlash, save the King !
kianganz 31 May 2016, 16:06
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For "most of us" or "all of us"? :)

So, hold on, are you suggesting that the CAM block of legal websites was related to this?
Wtf 31 May 2016, 16:22
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What an abyss... from noble profession to this? Forget the civility and nobility, where is the professionalism? Why are top lawyers like Cyril, Shardul and Zia such bad losers?

I don't know why lawyers say it is a good time to be a lawyer? Dig deeper guys - u will understand what a bad time it is to be a lawyer. U will earn the money, but where's the respect? These so called doyens of the industry are nothing but scumbags who will not bat an eyelid before laying off people whose collective experience in the profession is well over 150-200 years!

When will law firm promoters learn to respect people, and more importantly, their career decisions ?

For someone who has 10 years of experience, I feel there is such a dearth of well - meaning and professional law firms - never felt so insecure of my future in this profession!!
kianganz 31 May 2016, 16:27
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You may be right, generally, but I feel that this is actually quite a positive story, to allow fee-earners to leave to a new job before the notice period is over.

If anything, it's a sign of professionalism, and maturity, no?
Wtf 31 May 2016, 18:33
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Really? To say one day that u will serve your notice period, and then on another day, when i probably woke up on the wrong side, i say my friend today's your last day here...is that really professional and mature?
Huh? 1 Jun 2016, 01:25
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Actually it's just a sign of wanting to save working capital and not keeping on people who are going to leave anyway on the off chance that they bond with some client before they leave.
Really? 1 Jun 2016, 06:28
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Truly Orwellian Kian!! Now firing people in polite language is maturity and professionalism. Not that I give a crap about this so called industry. But still!! What happened to calling a spade a spade? Oh, I forget I am talking to self important douchebags who think the sun rises and sets because of the legal profession.
kianganz 1 Jun 2016, 06:33
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Hehe. I think all things considered, you have to see it against the previous / (bizarrely) normal context, where people who leave law firms have traditionally either been locked in a dark closet somewhere in the basement for their notice period, been sent a legal notice, or been forced to work out every last minute of their 2 / 6 month notice period, working 20-hour days.

So, not saying this is necessarily the most professional code of conduct right here, though it's certainly an improvement on how things used to be done, no?
Wtf 1 Jun 2016, 09:13
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Unprofessional - period.

It's high time professionals are treated like how they should be. Imagine someone having worked his/her arse off for 10-12 years in a place like CAM - quite literally giving his/her life to the firm - only to be told on his/her 10/12th anniversary of joining the firm that he/she come in from tomorrow!!

Where's the dignity?
kianganz 1 Jun 2016, 10:24
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I think most BigLaw firm fee-earners know that they'll be leaving at least some dignity at the door when they sign up for most BigLaw firms... :)
wtf 1 Jun 2016, 10:59
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* needn't come in...
What? 1 Jun 2016, 07:28
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If the terms of Percy's and AR's exits aren't clear yet, then will the associates and salaried partners be joining their new firms without their respective equity partners? Or will they be out of a job for a few months?
TLC 31 May 2016, 19:01
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so the firm decided to exercise its 'call option' which seems fine considering the lawyers had already decided what they wanted and exercised their right.

also, i think someone needs to prepare a memo between deciding an exit date for people who have resigned and 'laying off'. Kian, the comments are getting confusing! That too this is from a bunch of lawyers!! If this isn't clear then yeah clearly the profession has a lot to worry about.
Dhandha 2 Jun 2016, 14:54
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Totally agree - it has literally become a 'dhanda' now - but then so has medicine...
Firangi bhaiyya 31 May 2016, 16:41
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Foreign law firms where art thou? I cant believe this irony that nearly 60 years later we would be calling back firangs to liberate us from this family run tyranny.
menu 31 May 2016, 18:55
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what? last i checked you could resign if you had a problem? what do the firangs have to do with this? unless you need them to draft your letter for you. The market is ripe with opportunity- and you can pick from lady hitler, family, non family, pseudo democracy, dying firms, start ups, one man army, firms that are actually just LPOs, sweat shop firms, firms that say they pay but won't- unless you sign a blood bond. ...You're probably in a good place right now.. lesser of the other evils.
SAMMY SAM 31 May 2016, 16:51
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Why is SAM quite? Would be good to see SAM in action poaching from CAM, AZB and KCO...
lol 4 Jun 2016, 18:59
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Quite or quiet?
Meger 31 May 2016, 18:08
+2 -0
Merger coming. . Enough said!
Shocked 31 May 2016, 18:20
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So contracts in a law firm mean nothing and poor associates can be asked to leave the firm at a moment's notice?! Could also be an attempt by CAM to save salaries as things are not too good.
AZkaBan 31 May 2016, 19:50
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AZB also doing the exact same thing!! Are you an AZBite? omg are you Zia?
Hmmm 1 Jun 2016, 07:01
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Contracts always never meant anything at CAM / AMSS I guess. The contracts had one of the managing partner's father as the de-facto sole arbitrator for the longest time in the old set-up. At the new firm, the list of arbitrators one can choose from is about 5 in number, 3 of whom have featured in an internal firm-wide video release on the managing partner and how he/she is the M&A king of India. As for salaries, the firm back-pays increments in September for the March promotions and in the next year's September for an out of turn promotion in September of this year. Probably saving on interest, probably waiting for attrition to take the resource away, probably....sigh. Firms always try to save on salaries what with the increased focus of the human resource departments to justify their existence.
cupcake 31 May 2016, 18:50
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shubh kam mein deri kyun?
Shizz 31 May 2016, 19:08
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Kian,

As much as we love to hear about top-level departures from firms, it would be interesting to get some reportage of the number of first year associates who have left firms within a few months of joining. CAM Bangalore has seen more than half of its first year joinees (including myself) leave. Maybe that is something to look at as well?
Guest 1 Jun 2016, 06:07
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A very good suggestion!
Why Shizz 1 Jun 2016, 07:35
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Why don't you enlighten us with the reason Shizz of why first year joinees (including yourself) are leaving CAM Blore
Scooter- 1 Jun 2016, 07:59
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You are [...] and not important
Team??? 1 Jun 2016, 05:24
+1 -0
So who all are moving with Percy
Guest 1 Jun 2016, 08:59
+0 -0
Yeah...is the competition team moving out with him ?
No 1 Jun 2016, 10:16
+0 -0
No
Mr. X in Bombay 1 Jun 2016, 09:51
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One day there will be a merger of SAM & CAM and the venture would be named SCAM!
The king is dead.. 2 Jun 2016, 03:23
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admonished in a day....a general who served more than a decade for the empire! Shabby behaviour, There is not a single redeeming thing about cam.
The googly eyed calphurnia spoketh and the blind king doeth.

Le roi est mort, vive le roi!
X 3 Jun 2016, 09:37
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Did the general serve for free? and if a general betrays and joins the enemy's army what should the king do?
Betray? 3 Jun 2016, 12:35
+2 -0
How is this betrayal???
X 3 Jun 2016, 14:53
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Betrayal not in the context of law firms, it's perfectly fine to leave and join a rival firm. But betrayal in the context of analogy used that of an army general. If he was like a general in cam then he joined the army of an enemy nation so the king is right in admonishing him. I criticised the analogy not the individual. I hope that clarifies.
alias 3 Jun 2016, 17:16
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So, a competitor in the market is your enemy ?
Agree but Wait 5 Jun 2016, 15:53
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Since you've only picked up on the General point, should we take it that you agree with the "googly eyed Calphurnia" and "blind King" bit?
X 4 Jun 2016, 01:56
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Bhai saheb, Logon ne ek laaw firm ke partner ko General bata diya aap ne kuch nahi kaha. Logon ne ek laaw firm ko emppire or uske mukhiya ko King bata diya, aap ne kuch nahi kaha. Humne jara kisi ko enemy kya kah diya aap to...hain! Alias bhai ko esa selective Gussa Kyon aata hai? Pls. Tell us the Nation wants to know tonight.
Shroffie Toffie 4 Jun 2016, 12:51
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CAM is crumbling..poor remuneration, poor to average quality work, bad financial condition. Asking clients for huge advances on matters. Deficit funding in play. All the starry eyed associates will soon find themselves out of jobs.
YZ 4 Jun 2016, 19:48
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What CAM has done is in such poor taste. Penny wise pound foolish to fire 25 associates. Then again they lost the empire by selling Mummy's dining table.