AZB cap markets count down (but not out): Delhi SA Nirupama Ramakrishnan joins JSA as partner with 3 • 3 exit in Mumbai-Pune for Trilegal

JSA boosts CM team with Niruphama Ramakrishnan from AZB | Trilegal also benefits
JSA boosts CM team with Niruphama Ramakrishnan from AZB | Trilegal also benefits

AZB & Partners Delhi senior associate Niruphama Ramakrishnan has joined J Sagar Associates (JSA) and its recently-expanded capital markets team as a partner, with three other fee-earners from Delhi from 1 April.

Ramakrishnan is a 2009 Nalsar Hyderabad graduate who had previously also worked at erstwhile Amarchand Mangaldas and S&R Associates, before moving to AZB in 2019.

She joins ex-AZB partner Madhurima Mukherjee, who had moved to JSA in mid-2020 as a consultant and became equity partner there last month.

Ramakrishnan was joined at JSA Delhi by two senior associates and one associate, all also from her team at AZB Delhi.

Delhi managing partner Ajay Bahl commented last month: “We wish them well whatever they do next and wherever.”

Mumbai region also loses 3 fee-earners following Choudhary exit

Meanwhile, two fee-earners have resigned from AZB’s capital markets practice in Pune and one in Mumbai.

All three are understood to be joining Trilegal, where former AZB Pune cap markets partner had Richa Choudhary joined in February as a partner.

The Mumbai partnership’s managing partner Zia Mody confirmed the departures and commented: “We wish them all the very best.

“We have successfully hired to fill the gaps. Our cap markets capabilities continue as before and will be back to full strength very shortly.”

According to AZB’s website, there are currently two partners remaining in AZB’s capital markets practice: Agnik Bhattacharyya in Delhi and Varoon Chandra in Mumbai.

Correction: In AZB Mumbai partner Lionel D’Almeida also practices capital markets and securities.

The AZB capital markets’ associate headcount is understood to therefore have been severely depleted by the moves, though Mody said that several offers to hire fee-earners had been made and accepted both in Delhi and in Mumbai.

Niruphama RamakrishnanWork history From: Apr 2021: Partner, J. Sagar Associates (Gurugram) Jun 2019 - Apr 2021: Senior Associate, AZB & Partners (Noida Area) Jul 2014 - Apr 2019: Associate, S&R Associates (New Delhi Area) Jun 2013 - Sep 2013: International Finance and Development Fellow, The World Bank (Washington D.C. Metro Area) Jul 2009 - May 2012: Associate, Amarchand Mangaldas (Mumbai Area)Education 2004 - 2009: NALSAR University of Law, , 2012 - 2013: NYU School of Law, Master of Laws (LL.M.),

Comments

Game of Thrones 12 Apr 2021, 14:29
+2 -3
Kian - please correct. there are three capital markets partners, two in Mumbai and one in Delhi.
Mother of dragons 12 Apr 2021, 16:46
+3 -0
Or may be two in Mumbai and none in Delhi... seems like it.
Why 12 Apr 2021, 17:25
+1 -1
Why does it seem like this?
AZB 14 Apr 2021, 18:38
+2 -7
Senior Partner - Srinath Dasari also does part time but heavyweight Cap Marks out of Bangalore. Has done many IPOs of many Bangalore HQ companies such as Cafe Coffee Day.
Guest 12 Apr 2021, 14:31
+1 -0
7 % increment de rahe hain kya waha bhi?
Atithi 12 Apr 2021, 16:24
+4 -0
JSA increments are in the 10-15% range but on a ridiculously below industry level base pay so it evens out
Guest 13 Apr 2021, 01:48
+2 -0
And then there are some with a good base pay getting bad increments and bad bonus,infact being "encouraged to leàve" for expressing dissatisfaction to the 5th floor about the increments/bonus.
Guest 12 Apr 2021, 14:32
+3 -3
Lionel?
BRLM 12 Apr 2021, 16:43
+3 -5
Happy for you Niruphama. It's always a pleasure to work with you.
Moving markets 12 Apr 2021, 19:36
+1 -0
Is there a specific reason why there is so much movement in capital marks teams? So many changes already this year.
Guest 12 Apr 2021, 19:46
+3 -1
Nothing happens for a while and then everything happens at a go. Bad years do this...
Question mark 14 Apr 2021, 11:22
+5 -1
hahahaha are you really a banker or a KCO lawyer who has applied for a job to various people? If you are.... then AZB is the place for you ....under the "star" lawyers. You know the market intelligence right? ..... how "desperately seeking associates" even though for LI articles all spots are "filled"!!
AkSha 15 Apr 2021, 13:28
+1 -2
lol why would KCO lawyer apply anywhere. Their capital markets team is a comfortable place to be.
MKAC 16 Apr 2021, 04:47
+0 -0
True. Also once the complacency sets in, it gets very difficult to get back to working hard.
Capital Market Insight 14 Apr 2021, 06:15
+11 -17
Normally, the work style in capital market teams across law firms has tight timelines and stressful environment. However, good increments with bonuses and work environments in certain capital market teams have changed the entire game.

Having worked with the erstwhile AMSS (Capital Markets) for couple of years and now in -house (as a Banker), I think in the long run, Prashant & Nikhil (SAM), Manan (Indus) and Yash (CAM) are clear winners, as they care about their people, ensure timely increment for their teams. Also, heard that there is next to zero attrition in their teams (nonetheless, one of the lead bank has hired few associates from CAM, Mumbai capital markets, but this appears more of a choice than environment issues).

In CAM, Vijay, Reuben, and Abhinav (obviously, Yash is a star lawyer) appear to be clear winners, the way they are building their teams and supporting the juniors (considering everyone is overburdened with work in current scenarios).

Varoon & Lionel (AZB) are also star lawyers (I heard Lionel is a dude and one of the nicest person), but with recent exits, without any increments (not verified), things are not jelling well. Heard there are more exits (at least one as per rumors within the capital market circles) on the way.

Overall, the capital markets team at SAM, Indus, and CAM have benefitted the most. AZB capital markets team has good people, but it is the biggest loser in terms of experienced people leaving and the ones who stayed (I heard but not verified) are not given any pay hikes despite working their asses off.

Being a banker and closely working with these firms, I really hope these firms take care of their teams, considering the number of hours these teams are slogging and working round the clock.

Cheers and happy billing !!
Fact check needed 14 Apr 2021, 09:44
+3 -4
The comment here needs fact checking.AZB had a bumper year,and on people leaving let's cheçk up if there are associate revolts at firms other than AZB.
Not from AZB 15 Apr 2021, 04:12
+8 -2
This comment speaks about next to zero attrition because purportedly people are well taken care of and in the same breath it speaks of CAM associates moving to some lead bank "as a choice" than environment issues.......who you kidding with these contradictory statements ....to depict that only AZB is having people issues?Do you know what are the real reactions to bonus and increments at CAM?at SAM?at Indus?I think this is happening because AZB surpassed all the purported top firms this pandemic year in cap market deals,right?And this whole feminism angle bought in is a typical and so regressive reaction.
Guest 15 Apr 2021, 07:58
+6 -0
If you're a banker you know why its a dead practice. Nobody can and should do IPOs for 40 lakhs, unless you want to create a second class of lawyers in your firm who are underpaid compared to the rest.
Unfair 16 Apr 2021, 04:26
+7 -0
People shouldn’t be doing IPOs at 40 lakhs is an unnecessary dig at Khaitan.
carmother 15 Apr 2021, 13:28
+7 -0
But with all of this, I feel at the risk of becoming pretty top heavy, KCO manages to retain its lawyers no matter what.
Jsazb 13 Apr 2021, 13:57
+2 -7
Isn’t Azb paying the highest in the market currently at senior level? Does JSA have the capacity to pay them as much as Azb ?
From JSA 13 Apr 2021, 14:37
+0 -4
Whats AZB paying? JSA typically pays 38 - 45 to a mid level SA (say, SA2). The variation is due to 8%.
BallaBarotZiaFraud 14 Apr 2021, 02:10
+22 -0
Since October 2020, Z has been firing people without giving any reasons. Z doesn’t even reply to emails if reasons are asked for firing. And you expect Z to give increments!? The As and Bs of AZB are no better.
Agony Aunt 14 Apr 2021, 05:49
+7 -0
LoL - Worst kind of break up! :P
M all the way 14 Apr 2021, 05:56
+7 -10
Madhu is the best boss ever!
Haha 14 Apr 2021, 07:15
+5 -4
LoL! RoFL!
Pseudo Feminist 14 Apr 2021, 05:58
+23 -8
Is it only me or does anyone else see a pattern of only female partners/ partners leaving the capital markets practice at AZB? Is azb a boys club? I hear that her highness is no less, unlike why she portrays!
Pseudo Feminist 1 14 Apr 2021, 06:15
+2 -0
I meant female partners and associates*
Pseudo Maha Pseudo 14 Apr 2021, 06:17
+7 -4
Lets not even go on the pseudo feminism bit. Even the ones who have left have preferred male juniors over competent female juniors.

So lets put the pseudo feminism agenda to bed (there are many skeletons in every closet).
Pseudo maha mahapseudo 14 Apr 2021, 15:13
+3 -3
Clearly you are a male. The moment any feminism conversation comes up, let’s just put it to rest.
About people leaving and preference, there are more female associates who have left than the male ones. So obviously, your male preference information about the people leaving are incorrect.
MadameSir 14 Apr 2021, 17:09
+2 -0
Please ya! Let the sleeping dogs lie. Talking about pseudo feminism is a slippery slope. Kripya savdhaani barte.
Lock Down Low Down 16 Apr 2021, 06:27
+4 -0
HRH has 43 female partners for 120 total (i.e. 1:3 or 33% approx)

See FYI - https://blog.ipleaders.in/gender-diversity-leadership-indian-law-firms/

this is higher than CAM, JSA, KCO

does this seem like a boys club?
Kattappa 14 Apr 2021, 16:46
+0 -0
Yaar AZB toh pays that much at PA levels in star earning teams.
Azb insider 14 Apr 2021, 05:37
+6 -1
AZB is the lowest and has been for a while.
the REAL slim shady 14 Apr 2021, 05:53
+1 -1
why haven't you? waiting for bonuses? people like you set a bad precedent for everyone - so thank you insider!
AZB 14 Apr 2021, 06:22
+14 -0
To answer your question, no. Because at AZB you don’t get your bonuses until September, October and sometimes even November. So she makes sure you lose 1 year of bonus either at AZB or the new firm.

But more importantly, why shouldn’t I wait for my bonus? I have worked for it an entire year (a year where no increments were given). I deserve it and no one else should get to keep it.

And sorry - what precedent?
the REAL slim shady 14 Apr 2021, 07:23
+0 -14
are you really at AZB? is your sept example applicable this year?

precedent = bad behaviour, where people collect bonuses without clarifying intention of leaving - which is presumably what gives associates a bad name and prompts partners to push bonus declaration to Sept (per your compliant!) to stop people from messing with the firm.

bonuses are not only for past performance (notwithstanding what they SHOULD be for) - these are an effective tool for employee retention - so lets not mislead and then blame the system

lastly, I have heard of deserving employees who left in Dec/ Jan being given bonuses at AZB

moral of story - 1) leave if you want to, but be upfront about your intentions so the rest of us don't get a negative image, 2) really stop complaining - we have intelligence and the opportunity which offers more mobility than most - lets not pretend we're stuck at azb and continue to lament at its toxicity.

I hope you find a place which makes you happy and soon!
Azb 14 Apr 2021, 15:18
Contested
+12 -2
Hahah! I urge you to Just read your post again. It’s so funny and obvious that it’s no AZB associate (because we all know how associates feel about azb).
Didn’t realise AZB management was responding to legally India articles too.

Take a bow, Kian!
Lock Down Low Down 16 Apr 2021, 06:15
+1 -0
have you started a workers union - how you know how all associates feel please? also - what descriptive word for you am I thinking of right now?

pls do let me know how to connect with you - your views seem a tad bit misrepresentative!

also I am not super confident of your bonus deserving qualities - one, you didn't respond to any of the points made sensibly (negotiations nightmare sirji!), but diverted the focus entirely by this silly comment, two - you've spent waaaay too much time here. fingers crossed ha - all your belly-ached waiting shouldn't go to waste!

tell me did you NOT know that azb declares bonus in sept? Tina gussa kyun?
Azb 16 Apr 2021, 16:23
+1 -0
Why are you so angry?
Popcorn 14 Apr 2021, 15:26
+1 -0
LoL! Is your September example applicable ‘this year’ ! Wow! So it is true! Kudos to AZB for ‘this year’ ! 😂
Azb 14 Apr 2021, 05:39
+21 -0
Azb does not pay well anymore. Used to at one point but not anymore. And the work culture is so toxic, it’s beyond belief. Waiting to put in my papers!
Britney Spears 14 Apr 2021, 20:23
+8 -15
Pray, do tell - what is so toxic about the work culture at AZB? I’m genuinely curious to understand this is if you have actual examples of this “toxic work culture” - it’s a term that seems to be used a lot these days, so I’m just trying to understand, how the work culture at a law firm, can be toxic?

And why are you waiting to leave - there are plenty of law firms today that will hire you if you’ve worked at AZB. The HR department for a particular law firm, which comprises of former AZB HR personnel (most people at AZB will know who I am talking about) calls all associates at AZB and offers them jobs from time to time. Clearly, you haven’t been receiving these calls and you should most definitely wonder why. I sincerely hope you find happiness elsewhere post bonuses this year and escape the toxicity that has evidently been plaguing you.
Merchant 15 Apr 2021, 23:49
Troll
+14 -1
Dude - the AZB culture is so toxic that Bs son had to join SAM.
Lock Down Low Down 16 Apr 2021, 06:07
+1 -9
"A toxic work culture is one where the workplace is plagued by fighting, drama and unhappy employees to the point that productivity and the well-being of the people in the office is affected"

The comments on this post are more toxic than the work culture at most law firms!

I don't think the above applies across the board at ANY law firm - including AZB.

having worked at azb for 4 years - I am happy to say certainly that notwithstanding partners / team members getting stressed out from time to time (which should be commonplace) - the work culture in our team is largely accommodative; we don't have mad work hours - some days are tough - as in any law firm. we can't expect mummy to fix the client servicing nature of law firms (or the demands of bankers and clients!).
Mumma 14 Apr 2021, 05:40
+7 -0
No one gets paid there well as compared to other firms, except mumma and few equity partners.
the REAL slim shady 14 Apr 2021, 07:26
+6 -9
one more associate putting in papers is news?

did you also know that interns also leave azb on a monthly basis! must be because of the toxic work culture, pseudo-feminist bosses, stingy pay practices and super whiny associates!

kian pls look into this for some real value reporting!
Guest 14 Apr 2021, 16:59
+0 -0
Hahaha this is a joke
Jon Snow 13 Apr 2021, 14:31
+16 -1
Heard JSA and Trilegal have given 40-60% increments to people who joined JSA and Trilegal from AZB, which makes the pay package of AZB associates much below the market standards. Is it true that one more associate is putting papers next month?

Kian - can you check and confirm that AZB has not paid any increments for the last financial year and people are leaving across teams due to this.
Ygritte 13 Apr 2021, 15:24
+10 -0
Rumour has it: No bonuses were paid to the team and Lord Commander was in no mood to pay the salaries as well.
Is this why everyone is leaving?
Aegon Targaryen 13 Apr 2021, 17:16
+1 -2
You know everything, Ygritte.
Wo 13 Apr 2021, 17:20
+4 -0
Should have taken the coffee book more seriously, If you want to increments.
Lock Down Low Down 16 Apr 2021, 06:02
+0 -3
I received full salary promptly - how you have such insight into the mood of our Lord Commander? pray share !
Lord Commander 16 Apr 2021, 07:01
+2 -0
I am sure YOU have. May be that's why you are jumping on every comment Lock Down Low Down. Good job!
Dow Jones 16 Apr 2021, 07:23
+2 -6
if you do TS - salary is handled by accounts and paid - the request does not go to Lord Commander and she doesn't decide
if you don't do TS - then salary is not paid - the request does not go to Lord Commander and she doesn't decide
if you don't do TS at SAM - you are locked out of Citrix and not paid
if you don't do TS at KCO - you are not paid
if you don't do TS at Veritas - you are not paid
Lulli 16 Apr 2021, 08:45
+8 -0
Humare hi acha hai. TS bharo na bharo, paisa time pe aata hai.
Lalli 16 Apr 2021, 17:10
+0 -0
Aap kaun?
Lulli 16 Apr 2021, 19:58
+0 -0
Naam dekho humara. Humara naam do baar aata hai.
Dow Jones 18 Apr 2021, 16:55
+0 -0
obviously the response was only on 'rumours' of LC's 'mood' to not pay salaries per Ygritte
Lord Commander 16 Apr 2021, 09:10
+4 -0
Yes yes very apt response. An entire team got up and left/are leaving, because suddenly everyone stopped doing their TS.
LDLD 16 Apr 2021, 16:31
+0 -0
Hahahha! Seriously! This is funny. It’s like someone just got into work and started responding to emails not addressed to them ferociously!
Tehelka 14 Apr 2021, 20:29
+6 -5
What expose type of reporting are you asking Kian to do? Yes, AZB has not paid increments - like all firms for FY 20-21, there has been an increment freeze across the firm, which includes everyone at all levels. AZB has not finished their yearly review process, in fact it has just begun and is expected to end in May after which increments and bonuses will be decided. It is yet to be seen if they, like others, decide to do a retrospective increment, but that will not be determined until the review process for the year is over. I hope that satisfies your curiosity and you can go back to watching TMZ for your brand of Gotcha journalism entertainment. You really know nothing...
Walter White 13 Apr 2021, 14:42
+2 -0
Try some meth Jon, you will get good feel chills.
Soul destroying 14 Apr 2021, 06:39
+22 -3
In AZB I would make peace with the low income or the work hours for my career.
But she reaches into your soul and destroys it! It’s never good enough. Whatever recovery you make is not enough. Whatever work you do is shit. She gets the work. It’s her clients. You are just a machine, easily replaceable! A or B or the rest of the gang survive by keeping out of the way.
Soul almost destroyed 14 Apr 2021, 10:40
+20 -1
You just convinced me to not accept the offer I have. Thanks.
Mel Gibson 14 Apr 2021, 20:38
+5 -12
You have convinced me to quit and never let her take my freedom! Congratulations.

Soul destroyer? I seriously think you have a ridiculously thin skin and I’m sorry, but that will really hurt your chances in whatever you do. Agree that her ways can be demotivating and her words can be mean - but if this destroys your soul and you’re being criticised or marginalised to this extent, then perhaps look inwards. Or look outward and leave and find something or someplace else that makes you happier.
Mangalkadaas 14 Apr 2021, 14:20
+11 -1
Even our mummy is like that! All mummies who own law firms with daddies are like that only.
Eye Opener 14 Apr 2021, 09:38
+7 -1
The comments above are an eye-opener! Sounds like a terrible place to be at and also bolsters the hypothesis that law firm(s) are not kind to non-partners. Is this culture (bonuses delayed till October, unexplained firings) common to both, Mumbai and Delhi offices?
Eyes closed 14 Apr 2021, 11:52
+8 -2
Was part of the Delhi office for a long time, Delhi office pays bonuses and hikes on time. Never was it once delayed. What I hear it is the same even now. Not sure of AZB Mumbai. Have heard scary stories.
Wear glasses also 14 Apr 2021, 20:45
+3 -7
Now that your eyes are open, please do also check with people who actually work there and are willing to speak without anonymity and back things up with examples. Please stop judging a firm by anonymous comments on a website forum - 50% of what is written here are lies, 30% exaggeration. 20% is likely to be true, but it is someone’s personal perspective and is not representative of a firm. Every firm has its own issues and incidents - boys’ clubs, sexual harassment claims, low pay, serious lack of transparency, etc. and isn’t a fair yardstick to measure the entire firm and many many good people who work there and who have a lot to offer, both seniors and juniors. For your own benefit - please stop believing everything you read and i some market research outside of this forum and talk to real people, instead of anonymous trolls and keyboard warriors.
Doston 16 Apr 2021, 05:21
Troll
+0 -1
Hahaha

This Wikipedia level of research does not bode well for any law firm friend - better you don't take any law firm offers
Get me a job in AZB 15 Apr 2021, 10:59
+8 -0
Keenly watching the space to see who is "filling" the "gaps".

Seems like a gaping hole right now? Must watch the space to see the talent the "star" lawyers who lead this practice, attract. Heard almost everyone who came with Ashwath is gone.... now Entire Capital markets team gone! i hear Mummy insisted people come back to Mumbai in the middle of this horrific second wave of pandemic. So they may have quit.

Now who will do the work that Mummy bullies people into giving? will [...] finally have to work!!! hai hai....very sad day indeed.

will wait for some answer from the so-called "banker" who understands the market so well... bhai job laga de. promise i will not demand anything including basic human rights.
AZB HR 15 Apr 2021, 20:12
+13 -0
No human rights will be provided. Please apply accordingly.
Associate fever 15 Apr 2021, 11:43
+0 -0
Whic of the associates left Azb? Anyone senior?
SCAM HR 17 Apr 2021, 08:15
+8 -0
Whatever this article captures and the number of associates leaving (see comments above) or already left is true. Heard few more resignations are in pipeline (at least one I am certainly sure about). Team from Peninsula Chambers send its regards.