CAM to move from 40k sq ft Delhi to 80k Noida office

CAM to move out of Saket home in Delhi to Noida
CAM to move out of Saket home in Delhi to Noida

Cyril Amarchand Mangaldas (CAM) will be moving out of its South-Delhi office of six years and instead has leased a nearly double-the-size office space in nearby Noida to move in from June 2021, Moneycontrol first reported in an article about businesses increasingly opting for more flexible office space set up to save on outgoings:

New properties are also being taken on lease to ensure hot desking. Legal firm Cyril Amarchand Mangaldas (CAM) is taking up a new property in Noida on lease from Max Estates, where new concepts of office design will be adopted.

Cyril Shroff, Managing Partner at Cyril Amarchand Mangaldas, said that CAM Delhi will be shifting to this property in June 2021.

“This is a newly built, ultra-modern building and our office will incorporate the latest concepts in office design. These include special spaces for informal exchanges and hot-desking for lawyers mainly working from home,” Shroff told moneycontrol.

Update 17:32: Shroff told us: “We are moving from 40,000 square feet (in Delhi) to 80,000 square feet [in Noida].”

Not more than 20% of the office would be for hot-desking, and the total size available would enable the firm to grow from its current tally of 200 fee-earners in Delhi/NCR to 500, said Shroff.

The Max office in Noida was near the DND flyover, where other firms such as Khaitan had also recently moved.

Besides more space, the location was also more accessible. “It’ll bring us closer to the courts and central Delhi, just in terms of driving distance,” explained Shroff, noting that the courts could be reached in 20 to 25 minutes.

Partner Vandana Shroff added that before leasing the office they had tested the travel times and the Noida office had actually brought them “close to the heart of Delhi”.

CAM’s move in Delhi follows an announcement made in October 2020 by the firm that it hoped 80% of fee-earners would take up a revolutionary flexible working policy post-April 2021.

The roll-out of the policy had seen the closure of the physical Hyderabad and Chennai offices from 1 January 2021 (though fee-earners would remain on the books of the physical Bangalore office).

From Saket to Noida (+ virtual)

CAM had opened in Delhi in 2015, in the Saket District Centre mall complex in South Delhi.

Hot desking has become especially popular in the pandemic, with many offices having been deserted to staunch the spread of Covid-19.

Hot desking usually entails a smaller overall office space, coupled with staff being able to work from home more easily.

But if they do turn up to the office, the idea is that they can sit at more or less any desk and just hook up their office laptop and begin work.

That may be easier said than done in more paper-heavy legal departments such as litigation but a lot of companies already work on that basis.

Shroff said that the initial expectation of up to 80% potentially choosing to work flexibly, may eventually turn out to be much lower once the pandemic was over.

“A lot of people want to come back to the office, after everything stabilises,” he said.

Comments

KCO 23 Feb 2021, 12:45
Troll
+22 -44
CAM literally just piggybacked on KCO's hardwork of finding a modern office space not too far from courts/other parts of Delhi. Such a rip off. Not too different from their professional matters too these days!
Ridiculous 23 Feb 2021, 13:08
+47 -7
Is that how it works? So all firms piggy backed on AMSS and got to Lower Parel with Zia literally in CSS backyard? Dude. You shouldn’t speak.
Ambulance 23 Feb 2021, 13:48
+6 -4
Dear Comment No. 1

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KCO Babu 23 Feb 2021, 13:28
+20 -0
Whatever this KCO guy is sipping/smoking...He is in an alternate reality.
Damn 23 Feb 2021, 13:59
+4 -0
Wikileaks level stuff! #slowclap
Scooter- 24 Feb 2021, 07:49
+7 -1
I hope they dont get legal memos done by you. Given your abilities with logic, KCO will run up a high insurance premium.
Expert Lawyer much? 24 Feb 2021, 08:50
+14 -22
Dude what are you smoking? Everyone knows that CAM innovates while others simply follow. KCO moved from decrepit Ashoka Estate office to plusher offices..CAM is moving from an already plush office to a bigger and more plush office (knowing them, it will be). Why didn't the Max share go up when KCO moved? It's because we all know who does quality oriented work and who does quantity oriented work. Premium work at premium rates vs chindi work on chindi rates. Bentley vs Maruti.

Now pass the dutchie on the left hand side.
innovation? 3 Apr 2021, 17:01
+9 -0
Its juat a change of office location and a move to an office double in size,That's not Innovation.
Nice 23 Feb 2021, 12:47
+15 -0
Sooooooper fancy office I hear.
WFO 23 Feb 2021, 12:48
+15 -2
This should help the growing office as not many have opted for only WFH. Hot desking is the future of all organisations anyway. Congrats.
Guest 23 Feb 2021, 13:19
+26 -0
Amen to that. Hopefully my decrepit fossil of a boss realizes this soon, instead of dragging us all to office each flipping day.
Bold 23 Feb 2021, 12:49
+18 -6
Cyril has always taken bold moves. Moving from South Mumbai to Lower Parel 2 decades back and today almost all tier 1 firms have moved in Lower Parel.
StockMarket 23 Feb 2021, 12:51
+15 -4
I heard Max's shares prices went up with CAM moving into their building...
Sam? 23 Feb 2021, 13:24
Troll
+25 -1
Are you coming? Or sticking to that dirt pit that is Okhla?
Ticket please 23 Feb 2021, 13:54
+9 -2
Is the bus service from Okhla to Noida still on???
Delhiwali 23 Feb 2021, 13:31
+14 -8
CAM will be largest law firm in Delhi now!!!
Haha 24 Feb 2021, 12:27
+9 -0
You mean NCR? ;)
Not happening soon 6 Mar 2021, 19:34
+10 -0
Mumbai might be CAM territory but getting Delhi is not going to be easy,it's more the hold of SAM or Old Delhi.
Well wisher 23 Feb 2021, 13:57
+6 -3
Congratulations CAM. Good move!
Wow 23 Feb 2021, 14:21
+14 -0
CAM and Khaitan in the same complex and AZB 5 minutes away. Who would have imagined 5 years back firms would be moving to Noida and not Gurgaon.
Hmm 23 Feb 2021, 14:32
+12 -0
Gurgaon might be too unaffordable by now. Also too far for the litigation folks unless firms want 2 offices.
Question 24 Feb 2021, 03:08
+1 -0
Are they (CAM/Khaitan) using Regus? I believe that they have a good one at Max.
Traffic police 24 Feb 2021, 06:28
+11 -1
Good luck traversing the barapullah or dnd roads during peak traffic. They are always jammed morning and evening. Plus for those coming from GGN, hope you guys pack a breakfast and lunch for the journey every day. This may help uplift the real estate (residential) market in the surrounding areas though! All that Amarchand partner/ PA/ SA money to spend on them fancy homes. Of course the associates would slum it out. Who gets the corner offices?
Guest 24 Feb 2021, 07:48
+8 -6
It's unlikely anyone would voluntarily like to live in Noida. Trump had a word for places like Noida...
Traffic stop 24 Feb 2021, 10:22
+5 -0
CAM Delhi had very few, maybe less than a dozen lawyers coming from Gurgaon. They'll probably switch to the hybrid model
Answer 26 Feb 2021, 18:37
+1 -0
Civil Lines is a good address for CAM Noida Lawyers. A nice big apartment with a garden wouldn't be hard to come by or beyond reach (to rent or buy). Not to mention, you get an A+ address with all the security that comes with the LG and CM as neighbours.
Vanndy 24 Feb 2021, 11:49
+6 -2
Tested travel time from Delhi to Uttar Pradesh where Noida is located. LOL.
Litigrator 24 Feb 2021, 11:51
+23 -1
“ the courts could be reached in 20 to 25 minutes”. Hahahhahaahhahaha. Does CAM have some secret tunnel from Noida to Delhi HC/SC? I’ve been doing Noida to HC/SC for close to 17 years now. The only way you can do that route in under 30 minutes is if you leave before 9 am or in the middle of the day.
Says it all 31 Mar 2021, 02:00
+9 -0
https://www.livelaw.in/top-stories/noida-delhi-travel-nightmare-supreme-court-notice-171898

Nightmare To Travel From Noida To Delhi Which Takes Two Hours Instead Of 20 Minutes': Supreme Court Issues Notice In NOIDA Resident's Plea
Back-pedaling much? 24 Feb 2021, 14:43
+17 -0
Not sure I understand how CAM went from 80% working "flexibly" to now bigger offices with only 20% hot desk set up. Seems like either they are not serious about their flex policy (i.e. lip service to attract talent and show how "progressive" they are) or the hot desk system was planned by someone really bad at math. Just seems like confusing and majorly conflicting messages.
Right on point 11 Mar 2021, 18:17
+6 -0
True ,and typical....
Jobsearch 24 Feb 2021, 18:57
+3 -0
So should I add this as +1 for my job search consideration? Who has the coolest offices?
Typical 25 Feb 2021, 03:09
+17 -3
Typical Cyril smokescreen.... his Delhi office has [...] no solid work. Now he decides to double the size? Where is he going to get the lawyers? Or wait.... since they don't seem to have any quality controls and India churns out lakhs of lawyers a year, filling hot seats shouldn't be a problem? BTW has Rishabh Shroff moved to Delhi as announced years ago?? What's the state of the 18+ committees?
Jhumla!
2.8 25 Feb 2021, 07:58
+0 -0
You mean - https://www.legallyindia.com/law-firms/who-will-run-cyril-amarchand-cyril-shroff-4-family-members-27-new-committees-pangea3-founder-umakanth-more-20150909-6558
Big office, no lawyers 12 Mar 2021, 09:57
+10 -0
If lawyers/associates keep quitting(or told to leave)...and your the first to announce pay cuts...your new joiners are last to onboard after all firms.............Then good lawyers wont join no matter how big and superb the offices are
NLU Bruh 25 Feb 2021, 15:35
+8 -7
I HAVE $$$ TO OPEN SINGAPORE OFFICE AND $$$ MOVE TO FANCY PLUSH NOIDA OFFICE, BUT WHEN NLUs ASK ME TO DO ROUTINE DAY ZERO RECRUITMENT, I HAVE NO $$$$, sCAM LOGIC 101
Guest 25 Feb 2021, 15:45
+20 -5
Routine Day Zero Recruitment? Your sense of entitlement is only serving to make you the butt of jokes here. A firm recruits if it needs people for its work. It doesn't owe you a job. It may seem like that to you given the brainwashing you have received from pre-CLAT days, but it still isn't the case. The tier one firms hire so many freshers every year only because of their high attrition rates. Basically, if your seniors don't quit, you don't get jobs.
Master Yoda 26 Feb 2021, 06:27
+6 -8
What makes you think you are entitled or for that matter, CAM HAS to recruit from your sorry a## school. You kids need to get over this incorrect sense of entitlement that is filled into your heads in these school. A position at a prestigious law firm/ lawyers office or company for that matter is NOT something that is a matter of right. It needs to be earned. Stop wasting time on Instagram, TikTok etc and start earning your points. If you continue on with this sense of entitlement, life is going to chew up and spit you out. It will. Trust me.

.....Yoda knows it all and Yoda is wise!!

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Guest 26 Feb 2021, 07:50
+2 -0
Agree with the entitlement problem and that they have a lot to learn. However, it's not as if that the law firms would teach them much. The lack of resources devoted by most Indian law firms towards actual training and CLE of associates is shocking!
True 9 Mar 2021, 13:30
+1 -0
Frustratingly true .Training and learning is not a priority,"figure it out on your own,we don't spoonfeed"
$$ 27 Feb 2021, 10:09
+5 -0
CAM's spend on office rent wont increase much if at all - Max would be half the price of the Saket office.
More cartons cmng? 1 Mar 2021, 16:26
+11 -4
https://www.sundayguardianlive.com/news/nirav-modi-case-indias-unsanitary-jails-no-longer-valid-argument-uk-courts

A critical server in Dubai with records of all of NDM’s businesses was destroyed as were mobile phones and other devices; 50 cartons of critical evidence were removed from PNB, then concealed in the law firm Cyril Amarchand Mangaldas (CAM) with the intention of preventing that evidence being discovered by investigators.....

50 cartons?wow

Yes , need more space but alas cost control
No wonder they are doubling up office space....maybe more cartons on the way...lolz...
has CAM been named in NIMo chargesheet?
Cartoon is coming 2 Mar 2021, 15:53
+0 -11
Do you even know the facts or are you just going by hearsay and gossip? Because if it's the latter then your intelligence may be ....behooved!
Facts?Gossip?Hearsay? 3 Mar 2021, 13:48
+7 -0
Have you read any of the FACTUAL reportings and discovery of evidence on CAM raids?
Facts?Gossip???Hearsay??

Oh wait,let me ask
Can you read?
Seriously?? 6 Mar 2021, 02:22
+8 -0
It's fact that the CBI raid found thousands of documents related to Nirav Modi in India's biggest banking fraud at the CAM office.Its a fact that those documents were sent a week before in mini truck to CAM office by Nirav Modi's employees These are FACTS that were widely reported.
Not yet 3 Mar 2021, 20:47
+8 -0
CAM has not been charged yet but it's gonna be difficult to explain how and why was 50 cartons of paper related to a banking fraud placed in their office .Like, if they had really terminated their assignment with Nirav Modi as claimed by them then why would Nirav continue to keep 50 cartons of his papers in CAMs offices.
As a law firm, once the news of Niravs fraud was out they either should have returned the papers or turned it over to investigative agencies.There being raids at their office is a just a lot of bad PR for a law firm to make up in a competitive market, even if they don't get charged.
If they get charged................ although I don't think that's gonna happen
Not to be charged? 9 Mar 2021, 13:36
+13 -0
Why do you think they won't get charged?

With so many thousands of documents raided from the CAM office, makes a strong case for concealment.Its likely they will get charged, infact there was some CBI statement that CAM's still being investigated
Dazed and Confused 2 Mar 2021, 09:04
+15 -4
It's hard to describe CAM as a law firm any longer. They are far closer to an E&Y or a pure outsourcing model, so it's appropriate to find the cheapest office space possible. This goes for all the large firms in India, it's no knock on CAM particularly. They're simply leveraging more heavily, because the work outsourced to them by foreign firms requires very few people who can actually negotiate and draft, and many more who can simply assemble and check the work product. The real lawyers at the firm either live near this new location already, or will in reality spend very little time there. It's pure reportage and no snobbery to point out that Noida is really quite a dump. How lousy is it to work for one of these factories, and how unlike the experience at an equivalently sized foreign firm.
Unfazed and unconfused 2 Mar 2021, 15:13
+1 -2
Clearly you have no understanding of what work is done in a law firm.
Babaji ki booti 8 Mar 2021, 16:35
+14 -0
Anyone who says Noida is closer to the Delhi Courts than Saket is simply smoking some good Malana stuff.
Closer? 9 Mar 2021, 12:59
+2 -0
Noida is closer to Delhi.....sorry,the heart of Delhi?.......what jumla..