CAM expects +80% take-up of new flexi work policies post Apr ‘21 office re-openings • Chennai, Hyd to close offices [UPDATE-2]

Covid workflow may become post-Covid normal at CAM
Covid workflow may become post-Covid normal at CAM

Cyril Amarchand Mangaldas (CAM) has postponed the opening of its physical offices until 31 March 2021 “pending the resolution of the health crisis”, from when it will introduce a policy that will allow staff to work from home (WFH) and more flexibly, according to a press release from the firm earlier today.

We understand that the move follows several internal surveys of staff and law students at 16 law schools, which suggested that around 80% would like to take advantage of the option of working from home. And we had reported earlier this month that the firm had been working on such a policy, after having announced that offices would re-open on 19 October.

From 1 April 2021, this will allow several models of working flexibly for CAM fee-earners and staff, in addition to the firm planning to transition fully to being a digital and paperless office (the now age-old buzzword that the legal industry has never quite managed to implement).

Managing partner Cyril Shroff commented in a press release: “We have adopted dynamic working models that are aligned with the future of work, built on a world class digital infrastructure and aimed towards enhancing productivity and our talent experience.

“We are ready to bring in the transformative change to lead the legal industry.”

However, the devil will very much lie in the details. Traditionally a main impediment in lawyers working flexibly has been that take up may be limited unless it comes right from the top and with assurances that your career won’t suffer if you are not seated in the office all hours of the day.

Then again, some of that prejudice against WFH may have evaporated with Covid-19, in perhaps one of the few good things to come out of the pandemic.

We have reached out to Shroff for further comment and will update the article if we get more information.

Update-1, 17:20: We have updated the article with several more detailed explanations from Shroff below.

Shroff said: “I think this is the future of work which is going to happen anyway, but has now arrived and is better to embrace.” He summarised the five options as:

1. Work from office. My guess is 15-20% will continue with that option, especially the litigators

2. Hybrid. 60-70% will choose this. One day minimum you have to work from the office, and one day compulsory must work from home.

3. Short term work from anywhere option - either for childcare or elder care - once in five years, for 6 months. You don’t have to report to office once a week. It’s not taken as leave.

4. A more long term work from anywhere option. Do I want to work from my home town forever? We think there are some very very bright people who want to be associated with CAM and will choose this option. A combination of our alumni will love this, and also some of our existing people will migrate.

5. Flexi lawyer - gig-like, for three to six months, they will service us. And eventually if it builds up scale, some [of this service may be made available] to clients. This meets the ups and downs [and] demand].

In our view this kind of covers the potential universe of all options.

Flexible working

One option that will theoretically be available to staff will be flexible working, where some staff and fee-earners can opt to WFH between one and four days per week, being in the office the remaining days in the week.

Staff who would like to take advantage of the option can apply with their preferences, which would be evaluated by each team and management.

Those who take advantage of the option would not have a permanent desk in an office anymore but would be hot-desking, which means being potentially allocated a new workspace whenever they are in the office.

Some business services functions, for instance, might have to be in the office, and some fee-earners in areas such as litigation may also have to be in the office more than others.

“It’s not a birthright,” said Shroff about whether all lawyers could opt for more flexible arrangements, since entirely new contracts would be drawn up for those who take up the option.

However, he said that the policy stated that there would be no differentiation between fee-earners who opted to work from home or from the office. “Reward and compensation, all these [things] are equal”, he noted. “Everything is the same, no change. We are just accepting it [flexi working] as the model.”

But work demands would still be the final decider. “It’s a client first approach, if a client wants you [in the office].

“But subject to that, we will accommodate as much as possible because it is part of firm’s stated policy. We want people to work from home.”

Work from anywhere as a more long-term options

This will be an option for more senior specialist staff and fee-earners, who may be able to opt for longer term arrangements to work from home indefinitely.

They might even be working outside the country or in a city different from their home office.

On an ad hoc basis it is not entirely new for firms to have had lawyers operating remotely without an office on location - Khaitan & Co’s Paku Khan had moved to the US in 2016 to build its competition practice from there.

CAM’s plan would put such arrangements on a formal footing though again, much like with flexible working, it will be subject to approval from management and it will depend on how many actually end up taking it up.

There are “lots of brilliant brilliant people” available, for whom Shroff predicted this would be an attractive option. “It opens up a whole new talent market for me and creates more competition,” he said.

One-off remote working possibilities + short term gig-like flexi-lawyering

Once every five years, staff will also have the option to work remotely from anywhere for a period of up to six months, to attend to personal needs.

The firm would also take on fee-earner resources more flexibly for short-term assignments based on specific needs.

Office space less necessary

From 1 January 2021, CAM would also close its physical offices in Hyderabad and Chennai, with WFH becoming the default.

There are around 10 lawyers in both those offices. Shroff said that those offices would be “notionally on the books of the Bangalore office, but otherwise business as usual”.

Those who have to have meetings in a physical space, would be using business centres.

Shroff said that this would not only save costs but also gives more flexibility. “If this model can work, it would [work] for other places as well.” International firms such as Dentons had started similar policies for two of its offices, he added.

The firm’s Mumbai office - which is owned by the firm’s promoter family - would retain its current space to allow for future growth although there are plans to redesign the space for more meeting rooms and to allow for hot-desking.

Survey headlines of 650 staff: 55% more productive at home

Shroff explained that CAM had carried out four surveys on this, with the most important one having happened in September, in which around 650 anonymous responses were tallied making up around 90% of the workforce.

According to him, 80% said they wanted the flexibility of working from home as a long term policy, while the others were indifferent.

Out of respondents, 55% had said that their “productivity was higher” while WFH over the last seven months during the pandemic.

The third takeaway of the survey was about the issues with WFH experienced, which mostly concerned well-known problems such as separating work time from personal time at home, and how collaborating with teams could be more difficult from home.

Tech upgrades

The technology had been adequate for WFH for most respondents to the survey, said Shroff, though the firm would be working hard on upgrading its infrastructure further in the coming months.

Primary amongst those would be further upgrading of security protocols to enable remote working, including allowing fee-earners to use their own electronic devices rather than just firm issued machines.

Second, the firm had started a working group of six partners, as well as the heads of business functions like IT, HR and administration, to evaluate 30 to 40 applications to enhance collaboration, including whiteboarding and other software.

The roll out as a whole was also a huge managerial exercise. “We are starting small group consultations from next week,” said Shroff. “It is about four to five months of solid work that goes behind it.”

Expands on previous attempts at flexi working

In its press release, CAM had said: “We believe we are the first law firm to announce this and expect that this will set the benchmark.”

That said, it is not entirely new although it goes further than others have before.

The CAM policy expands on the footsteps of Khaitan & Co, which had in 2018 announced out flexible working as an option to court millennials, including “agile working” of up to 12 days per year and sabbatical leave of three months after five years of working with the firm.

We have reached out to Khaitan (which had in July of this year announced WFH to be the default until the end of 2020) for information on how many staffers have taken up these offers, before the pandemic.

We will update this article when we hear from them.

Update-2, 26 October: Khaitan HR director Amar Sinhji said: “In the last financial year i.e pre pandemic (upto March 2020), ~35% of our members opted to use our agile working and time-off policies, including WFH, recuperation and sabbatical leave.”

Shroff, for one, said that he hoped the approach to flexible working would catch on more widely.

“I would encourage everybody to do it,” Shroff said. “If the whole industry moves, it’ll be better for all of us.”

Photo by Shane Adams.

Comments

Jai Mata Di 24 Oct 2020, 11:03
+33 -7
Really pleased with the move, and CSS' remarks from what I know in the firmwide conference call also seemed wholly encouraging of the move instead of a sceptical theoretical proposal with the veiled threat of consequences if people don't turn up to office. Having been a sceptical onlooker, have to say that the policy seems well thought out and based on a lot of consultation, both internal and external. The devil will be the discretion given to the partners and teams, and one would hope this would not end up being a paper tiger.

From what I hear, KCo.'s model seemed a paper tiger in terms of remote working even pre-COVID, and even during COVID, despite the firm's "WFH till 2020end" policy, understand that KCo.'s Bangalore office has even been threatening consequences for compensation and bonus if people don't turn up to office. This shows that the ground reality at most firms is different from the rosy public picture presented by press releases from the marketing/HR representatives. Hopefully CAM follows the policy in spirit and substance.

Hopefully this puts the pressure on the industry and others follow with proposals along the same lines so the industry as a whole benefits - we as lawyers have been getting away with being stuck in time and resisting change for generations now, and this should set the ball rolling for a more dynamic and interesting future for the legal services industry in India. There could be a few ugly fallouts, and the adjustment will be tough, but will be watching with bated breath.
KCO Client 25 Oct 2020, 06:28
+8 -1
Well, I would agree with the comment on KCO Bangalore. They were operating from their Co-working space which I got a glimpse of during my last telecon in the first week of September with them.
Ahead of the curve 25 Oct 2020, 08:55
+7 -6
Agreed. Model is great. But the implementation is definitely in question. It's the same firm that claimed to be the leading technological innovator but failed to implement the same world class technology while inducting new joinees ( btw, it has inducted only a handful)
Now that offices will be closed till a considerable time ( which is a great step), how are they planning to convert the 4th Jan physical joining necessity to virtual.
Will it get extended again ? ( While rest of the firms who don't claim to be world class have already inducted ALL their kids )
New recruits are truly at the bottom of the chain. And it's not a demand, just a request to induct ALL kids
Strategy Guy 24 Oct 2020, 11:32
+1 -9
Lawyers me survey, Campus me survey, kiske ideas hai ye sab?
Why 24 Oct 2020, 11:58
+23 -0
What's wrong with that? Better than an opaque decision without consulting stakeholders I presume
Strategy Guy 24 Oct 2020, 13:01
+3 -10
I just wanted to know who advises Cyril on these things. Clearly not you. Chill !
Adver 24 Oct 2020, 12:31
+0 -0
Dhoondtey reh jaogey.
Ahead of the Curve 24 Oct 2020, 11:39
+41 -5
This firm is truly ahead of the curve. You could clearly see the amount of work and thought that has gone into coming up with something as pathbreaking as this policy. Most of us are super excited to take advantage of this. While I’m sure there will be pockets where this policy may not work optimally, I’m sure it will be superb for the rest. CSS for the win!!
Impressed 24 Oct 2020, 11:39
+34 -0
Super impressed!! Not from CAM, but the decision to at least make a policy like this and be the first one to do so deserves applause.
FlyWall 24 Oct 2020, 12:30
+6 -6
The decision was made by CAM Sherlock!
Arre 24 Oct 2020, 13:03
+9 -1
"Impressed" meant they're not from CAM, not that the policy isn't from CAM
Noob here!!! 24 Oct 2020, 14:32
+4 -1
Who is CAM sherlock here??
UPI 24 Oct 2020, 11:57
+34 -1
Bravo. Absolutely fantastic. CAM got a lot of backlash for opening up prematurely but now they deserve all the praise. Brilliant stuff, and hopefully sets a precedent especially for some other law firms who've been calling associates to office a week before Diwali.
J.S.A. 24 Oct 2020, 12:01
+20 -0
Take note JSA!!
JMP 24 Oct 2020, 17:24
+19 -2
Rest assured, JSA HR is now drafting guidelines on the amount of seasoning permitted in home cooked food and how many times a week you are permitted to order in from outside.
Let’s Rock 24 Oct 2020, 12:01
+10 -3
Great initiative. Hope other firms follow suit.
Guest 24 Oct 2020, 12:18
+19 -1
I think this firm has shown again why it has been a market leader. Truly admirable and hope others follow. Based on today’s conference call seemed really well thought through
Ex - CAMmie 24 Oct 2020, 12:30
+23 -1
It’s a brilliant policy. None of the firms have come up with such exhaustive and thoughtful policy.

Kudos to CAM.

Crying for shifting across the road.
Out of the box 24 Oct 2020, 12:44
+22 -0
A real game changer for the legal industry. Kudos to Cyril & CAM folks!
Comppp 24 Oct 2020, 12:55
Troll Contested
+3 -10
Has CAM also reduced 2020/2021/2022 comp like kco has??
? 24 Oct 2020, 13:15
+9 -2
What has KCo. done? CAM hasn't reduced compensation.
Guest 536 24 Oct 2020, 18:52
Troll Contested
+4 -0
They've reduced Freshers comp by 2L approx and same for 2021 joining batch for 2 years each
Kco a0 25 Oct 2020, 03:06
Troll Contested
+10 -1
More like 2.5L+ PA
And they only told us on the day we got our contracts and had tjj in sign it
Kept us completely in the dark till then
COMPLETELY UNETHICAL
Troll detector 25 Oct 2020, 06:22
+4 -1
Maybe it's been done just for you. It's the same as every year for everyone else.
Market 24 Oct 2020, 13:15
+15 -1
Legal industry please follow suit. As you always do. This is a much much needed change or at least an option to be given to all.
Wow 24 Oct 2020, 13:30
+26 -4
Excellent from CAM. Pleasantly surprised, unlike the fake PR scheme launched by Khaitan. This is real WFH, very happy that CSS is proving to be a real leader, unlike many other firms.
Guest 24 Oct 2020, 13:32
+4 -17
They recruit from SIXTEEN law schools?? What's the breakup? Which others apart from NLUs and JGLS? Are all on merit? Any Amity/GLC jugaadu types?
Guest 24 Oct 2020, 13:41
+52 -3
Upvote this comment if you think HR departments in all firms and companies are useless!!
Fact 24 Oct 2020, 14:19
+6 -1
True. Even CAM. This will happen inspite of HR not because of
Not CAM 24 Oct 2020, 14:19
+3 -22
Don’t confuse CAM with other firms with fancy “HR heads” who do little other than act as MP’s henchman. HR in law firms has always been a joke, esp if you’ve seen AZB and KCO at work. CAM on the other hand has HR that actually functions!
CAM HR 24 Oct 2020, 14:39
+18 -2
Not confused at all. Cam HR can’t comment on themselves please! They have always been MP’s henchmen and continue to be. This happened because of MP not HR!
Guest 25 Oct 2020, 13:06
+12 -0
HR in India is universally incompetent, for the following reasons:

1. Poor training
2. Worst students take it up (B-grade students from C-grade management schools)
3. Employers treat employees like slaves, HR merely follows orders from the top
4. HR suffers from an inferiority complex, so they need to boss around a bit
Realist 24 Oct 2020, 14:11
+28 -1
Really great move by CAM and probably one of the first in the legal industry anywhere in the world. Congratulations to CSS and team. Hope others will follow soon. Works best for lawyers with care-giving responsibility.

This is a real test for lawyering as a profession as well with the following questions:

1. As a young lawyer, can you afford to be away from your seniors from whom you learn the profession and from the office with proper research material like commentaries (hopefully most of these will become available online slowly)?

2. As a mid-level or senior lawyer (PAs and above), WfH/WFA works only if your clients also work that way. Else, if other lawyers are more regularly in front of the client they may win the work. Alternately, you do BD like now and execute from home.

3. If one is doing long term option for a firm like CAM from a tier 2 / tier 3 city - how do you build clientele and grow? Small town clients will never hire CAM. Although one way to look at it is if the execution is superb, the firm wins and client is only of the firm and not of the partners.

4. Litigators will really struggle. Both courts and counsels will not be ready for this style of working.
DDgents 24 Oct 2020, 15:40
+14 -1
All very good questions. One thing that helps is that a significant number of CAM teams work with foreign clients who don't have to be serviced real time and are never going to expect physical meetings, so remote working is definitely possible.
Ex-BigLaw 25 Oct 2020, 06:28
+10 -1
Former Tier-1 now in-house working with big law. I can answer some of these queries:

1. No you cannot. For the first few years, your learning has to be entirely hands on deck. Without a mentoring senior you cannot learn, it's simply a fact. Imagine doing your first diligence remotely.

2. What client today expects you to meet face to face? Even for years before Covid 95% of client work was done without ever meeting your client.

3. This query doesn't make much sense - how does working from office help build clientele? Clients send work to a partner/firm, not to a city.

4. The CAM policy acknowledges that litigators are going to have to be visiting more frequently. However there are days when the team is merely drafting, proofing and researching, especially the week or so immediately after a hearing, where WFH is doable.
Neversaynever 28 Oct 2020, 15:07
+1 -0
What has COVID really taught us if not that the impossible is possible? Please don't be a naysayer now. Was it not joyful spending much need time with your family during work breaks although WFH is toiling (yes, it is). But we can all work at setting boundaries for non urgent stuff. Other than that to all of your points above, impossible is possible. This is coming from law firms who would not trust their retainers who said they wanted to WFH for even a day when they were sick or had really bad cramps man. Most of us have efficiently proven it is possible. I'm a believer! All in for flexibility. Flexible is better. Flexible is long run :) Your laptops have the world, if all you wanna do is learn, really.
216 24 Oct 2020, 14:18
+26 -3
Visionary stuff. The shroffs dont sleep. Always always thinking about the firm.
Guest 24 Oct 2020, 14:26
Contested
+5 -55
The recruiting strategy is officially top secret, but it is rumoured to be as follows:

The Big 3 (i.e. NIRF top 3 stars: NLSIU, NLUD and NALSAR): Prized recruits, offered high salaries. Often put in out of the box and challenging roles due to high quality of faculty and intellectual culture at these law schools.

The Mid 4 (NUJS, NLUJ, NLIU, GNLU): Offered same salaries and Big 3, but often put in mechanical roles due to emphasis on rote learning in their education.

The Small 6 (MNLU, NUALS, RMLNLU, RGNUL, HNLU, NLUO): Little below Mid 4.

Jindal: Separate category. Some hired on merit at par with Small 6, some through contacts.

GLC: Separate category. Hired through lifelong internships by bunking classes.

The bonus 16th law school is one where requirements may be though contacts (Symbi, Amity) or another law school on merit (CNLU, DSNLU etc).

As I said, this based on hearsay as the firms will never reveal their formula
Guest 24 Oct 2020, 16:25
+33 -2
In no brand of hearsay other than in your weed-addled dreams do law firms care about NIRF ranking.
Abey 24 Oct 2020, 16:38
+18 -3
NIKAL L****

Honestly this is the most trolling and BS comment I’ve seen in recent times

Bhai kuch toh sharam kar liya karo

Please go back to the last 4 years recruitment figures and the “treatment” of those recruits and you’ll find out how FALSE this is
CAMmie 24 Oct 2020, 17:16
+25 -2
As an insider, can tell you that this is absolute horseshit.
Baapre 24 Oct 2020, 17:27
+13 -0
Bhaiya ye Wattpad nahin hai. Goodness me, this is some top quality, ripe bullshit. You think the Shroff family pulls out an Excel Sheet colour coded with NIRF rankings everytime they look at a potential fresher hire? Get the full and final fuck outta here you rancid buffoon.
Guest 24 Oct 2020, 18:07
+18 -0
High quality of faculty and intellectual culture at NLUD? Please go and check what happens in their Corporate Law classes. The brighter students already have to self-study, the others seek the help of either their own batchmates or friends from other NLUs. Any law firm job that those students get, they get it by their own merit and hard work, not because of any faculty contribution or institutional culture.
Pakizah 28 Oct 2020, 15:11
+0 -0
I vehemently oppose the hierarchy above. The story narrated above is not based on factual scenarios and any relation of the above to real life is purely coincidential. Reader discretion is strongly advised.

- Your small six girl making her mark. While you are at it, try and do some quality work at courts, companies or law firms. Always putting people down, judging a book by it's cover or being a first year law student doesn't pay those bills, son.
Insider 24 Oct 2020, 14:35
+57 -1
Has Mohit Saraf started working from home?
Guest 24 Oct 2020, 16:50
+3 -0
[img]https://media2.giphy.com/media/SwyTq2jJxc9im6BYnN/200.gif[/img]
Averse 24 Oct 2020, 17:03
+0 -0
Does he still have work?
Effing Brilliant! 24 Oct 2020, 14:35
+29 -1
Thank you Mr. and Mrs. Shroff for this extremely detailed and well-planned flexi working model. More importantly, I'm relieved that unlike a lot of your peers here in India, you recognise the continuing health risks posed by Covid-19 and have officially extended WFH till March 31, 2021 (similar to what has been done by a number of Silicon Valley corporations).

Also, big shoutout to Ms. Rashmi Pradeep and her fantastic team for their work on this!
Fannie Cam 24 Oct 2020, 17:05
+21 -1
Well done Rashmi. Only you could have pushed them to do this. Dhanya ho devi.
Kudos 1 26 Oct 2020, 11:08
+3 -0
Left to HR, they will police you by installing spy cams on CAM laptops, track your social media posts and report to CS, to ensure their bonus is safe.
Kudos 24 Oct 2020, 14:41
+15 -1
Kudos to the employment team and Rashmi for this. This is not HR or would be a botched policy much like the “come to work before Dussehra” one.
Harshad Mehta 24 Oct 2020, 16:12
+9 -0
Abhi time hai, khareedo property Goa mein, prices gonna hit the roof baby. Cyril sizing up bungalows in Calingute.

Risk hai toh Ishq hai.
Hearsay. 24 Oct 2020, 17:03
+3 -3
While this move is commendable, must point out that NDA has also done this. From what I heard, they're even sending infra like 2nd screen, etc to all staff, including accounts team, IT. Hope the industry does move towards this and this becomes the norm rather than the exception. Heard similarly good stuff about Rajaram as well.

Cheers
Hmmm 24 Oct 2020, 18:33
+19 -14
Weird that he asked everyone to bombard this page with positive comments. Weird-er that people have obeyed.
Hain 25 Oct 2020, 03:51
+18 -2
Well, that's a way of twisting his words - he was responding to a question from someone who asked for a clear press release because there is always mudslinging going on, he in turn said that is unavoidable and that he's given up because anonymity helps trolls. He only responded to that person and the firm saying if you like this, you should comment positively, hardly an instruction to everyone to do anything of that sort.
NO NAMES BASIS 25 Oct 2020, 02:54
+3 -12
When they were to induct less than 100 graduates this year, they made excuses and pushed their joining. They boast about being technologically advanced, ahead of the curve etc (seriously, please leave some space on the letterhead so that we can fill actual contents), but still deferred freshers' joining. So I really dont know if they have really "adopted dynamic working models that are aligned with the future of work, built on a world class digital infrastructure and aimed towards enhancing productivity and talent experience"

I am also sure that there would be disparity among those who choose to wfh and those who actually work from office, no matter the actual amount of work done...just because I am wfh doesn't mean that I haven't burnt my ass on a transaction!! we have discussed this issue SO MANY times (among ourselves - you can't say anything which might not please the shroffs! Dont get fooled and start being honest with them, unless you want them to fire you).

Law firms also have "out of sight, out of mind culture"..if you don't show your face on time, you are frowned upon.

I look forward to receiving a fair policy that does not prejudice my choice between wfh or wfo.
Ahead of the curve 25 Oct 2020, 18:53
+6 -3
Correct. New Joinees are just the trash of the food chain.. Calls to HR are never picked up. Mails not answered.
But at the end of the day, they are ahead of the curve. A different curve where your batchmates join and you wait till the joining date gets postponed again.
Perspectives 25 Oct 2020, 02:58
+7 -0
My POV is that whichever model the CAMmie chooses, it will all depend on the partners whims & fancy and on how it is implemented.

Sometimes these models sound amazing but are left only on papers because bosses expect employees to come to work and can generally known to be unreasonable. It’s a boss thing I guess and we all need to live with it.

As long as the firm can implement it, it will or should work.

By way of an example many companies have unlimited leave policy but that worked against them. One couldn't avail even the standard 21 leaves after they implemented unlimited leave policy.

And sometimes it is the other way round...the employees take advantage of policies....so one will have to find a middle ground and see what works best for you and hopefully your partner would allow it to work for you.

Happy Sunday !
Amen 25 Oct 2020, 06:31
+9 -2
Law firm leave policies are such a joke to begin with. 6 years into my career and I've only seen 21 day leave being availed by, at most, 3 people. Law firms will juice you to a pulp and throw you out the minute you show the first sign of burnout. CAM is no exception
Juck Duniyal 28 Oct 2020, 15:17
+0 -0
If that is how you have spent your six years, think think think my friend. Move to greener avenues.
PA from Big6/7 25 Oct 2020, 07:01
+18 -0
I never though I would say this, but I think post April 2021 (and assuming the policy is rolled out in letter and spirit - which I suppose it should be, given CSS' backing/ resolve) I will apply to CAM. Have worked for long with the amarchands before I decided to say goodbye couple of years back. But this is a potential game changer for me. I can think of staying in the game for the long run and not move out to a GC role subsequently, as I was planning.
Guest7 25 Oct 2020, 07:24
+16 -0
@JSA JMP's - could you please reach out to CSS to borrow that survey and conduct the same here in JSA? Had Jyoti been here, JSA would have been the first one to conduct such a survey. This place (JSA) was supposed to thrive on culture of innovation and first-in-industry steps. It was supposed to become an island, a beacon.

Now, instead, several teams work like an island! This is not a general statement, but JSA folks will understand.

@JSA JMPs - Take lead guys, do innovative lawyer friendly stuff, and JSA will be back to full glory. Else you are destined to slip down to tier-2. I am not trying to do doomsday-prophecy-trolling. Just do this and keep doing other innovative stuff.

P.S. - Remove the JSA tag, rebrand to something new. Build you own identity. Get a neutral name. Jyoti would love this.
Amen 26 Oct 2020, 04:33
+4 -0
JSA has handled this whole pandemic in the most absurd of manners. Random townhalls, no actual communication, haphazard reopenings, trainings on family law and work place bullying they've been all over the place. The only surveys we receive are whether this week's completely random firm-wide training on making wills was "efficient".

On a side note honestly I am very impressed that for better or worse, Jyoti stays true to his word and completely refuses to ever intervene in JSA proceedings, other than to share lunch with new associates, such a sweetheart.
JSA2 26 Oct 2020, 04:38
+11 -0
JSA has been multiple firms within a firm for a long time but this year has made it very very clear that there is no one cohesive firm leadership. JSA has slowly but steadily become a fractured mess of individual teams that share a building and little else. JSA should have been the first firm to push out a survey of this kind and not be beaten by a family run firm, but what a sad state of affairs.

There have been partners packing the poorly ventilated floors since June and denying medical leave to associates and without a proprietor at the top, there's nobody to ask questions of such inhumane behaviour. Sad!
Sad indeed 30 Oct 2020, 09:29
+0 -0
Seems that the role of the Managing Partners has been reduced to overseeing the HR team.
Since the management team of the firm is elected democratically, I believe the elected management doesn't want to take steps that will anger any of the partners. Not sure if they're doing this to get re-elected (not sure if re-elections are allowed anyway) or simply to not come off as too overbearing.
Ex KCO 25 Oct 2020, 08:18
+5 -4
seems like an extension of what KCO proposed to do earlier (but could not implement). Now CAM will show them how to implement such policies.
#WhatCAMDoesTodayKCODoesTomorrow
Real Estate 25 Oct 2020, 09:59
+0 -1
Didn't CAM just move into a very large leased office space in Bangalore? What would be the strategy on that? Would they be downsizing their leased premises?
Nope 25 Oct 2020, 17:27
+2 -0
No cut back on space, CSS confirmed. Only stopping any future expansion.
comment 25 Oct 2020, 16:34
+12 -1
Kian, bro the new font size for the comment section is damn irritating. Please revert to the earlier design.
Alias 25 Oct 2020, 19:11
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Who is CSS? Cyril Shroff will be 'CS'. It can't be L&L's CSS.
Guest 26 Oct 2020, 05:07
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Cyril's full name is Cyril S. Shroff.
Guest7 26 Oct 2020, 10:11
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Its Cyril Suresh Shroff. Similarly, its 'triple S' for the bro.
Life Hack 26 Oct 2020, 12:51
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There is so much focus & emphasis on input always. High time law firms take note of output, results and quality of the same, in a time bound manner too.

Saying you work hard isn't enough. It's all about the results you bring !
Bachat 27 Oct 2020, 04:11
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Some savings happening by closing hyderabad and chennai office:

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/industry/services/property-/-cstruction/cyril-shroff-paridhi-karan-adani-buy-rs-36-crore-apartment-in-mumbais-worli/articleshow/78878987.cms
Altamount Road 27 Oct 2020, 04:32
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You also save brother by selling your undergarments, and go ahead & buy. Reduced stamp duty too
Mera Bharat Mahan 27 Oct 2020, 09:07
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https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/magazines/panache/vinayak-burman-is-all-set-to-reopen-office-post-covid-with-staggered-shifts-social-distancing-well-being-sessions-for-employees/articleshow/76133261.cms

Brilliant initiative, always ahead of the curve !
Tere Dimaag Kharab 27 Oct 2020, 10:03
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What’s the relevance of a June article in October ! So dumb ! Behind the curve ...
Mera Bharat Mahan 27 Oct 2020, 12:10
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To show that where the original thoughts belong. Check with any of their current retainers and alumni as to how well the firm is taking care of everyones best interest during this time of pandemic.
Erm 2 Nov 2020, 05:52
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Thanks for this PR exercise and HR trying to take credit etc. Now that the comments review would be complete and the 36 crore house has been bought, can you send us our arrears of our deferred salaries that have been held since April - October end has come and gone!
Nope 2 Nov 2020, 07:49
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Were you paying attention during the Zoom call? No arrears will be paid for April - Sep. the only money you will possibly get is for October. Your increased pay will flow monthly now prospectively.
Haha 2 Nov 2020, 08:37
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Stock smoking whatever you have been and call up HR. They will be happy not to pay you but the rest are getting their money in “one bullet”.
Naagin 27 Jan 2021, 17:15
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@Kian - heard AZB has asked all those who left their cities of work to return in anticipation of a Feb compulsory 1-day-a-week attendance - any news?? Wonder how other firms will react to this....
Trump 2 Mar 2021, 17:47
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This was all a gimmick. An attempt to show that the firm is really progressive. However, truth is that ppl are being forced to attain office atleast 3 days a week as the management thinks that a team cannot work from home. @kian - next time around please do follow up on stories that u post i.e. whether it’s actually implemented or just announced to make headlines.