Clydes, Clasis to break off best friendship, as troubled ALMT-breakaway kept refusing to float by self

With Clyde and Clasis frandship no more, Clydes website India section will need updating soon
With Clyde and Clasis frandship no more, Clydes website India section will need updating soon

The nearly 7-year-old best friendship between Clyde & Co and Clasis Law is on the rocks, and due to not continue after 31 March of this year, according to multiple sources with knowledge of the development.

We have reached out to Clyde CEO Peter Hasson and senior partner Simon Konsta for comment.

A Clydes spokesperson said via email yesterday evening, that the firm “won’t be making a comment at this stage”.

It is understood that the break-up is triggered in part by perennial internal partnership and retention difficulties at Clasis under managing partner Vineet Aneja, in addition to limited cross-referrals, according to two sources with knowledge of the break-up.

Aneja today declined to comment on difficulties in the Clasis partnership, but said: “We have had had an association [with Clasis] since 2011, and like any other business we review the relationship from time to time, to ensure it will work for clients.”

He added that Clasis would continue working with Clydes, but said he would not comment further at this point.

While best friendships are usually not exclusive, Clydes, for one, has been working with several Indian law firms other than Clasis for a while now, such as Cyril Amarchand Mangaldas on public sector IPOs.

Hard Brexit?

Due to regulatory restrictions, law firm best friendships can range from vague to near-backoffice.

In the Clydes Clasis case, Clasis and its partners (at least one of whom has left) are still prominently mentioned by name on the India microsite of the UK-international law firm.

While the relationship had been getting cooler between the firms for a while now, and with Clasis’ website being an ‘under construction’ placeholder, the only overt sign of the break-up may be changes to Clydes website in the coming months.

It is also not the first (but possibly the last) of the best friendships to fall apart: AZB & Partners and Clifford Chance broke up in 2011 over a lack of referrals, followed by Trilegal and Allen & Overy for similar reasons in 2012.

Two pins on Clydes India map, as associated offices
Two pins on Clydes India map, as associated offices

Steering the ship

Vineet Aneja nearly the last man standing, again
Vineet Aneja nearly the last man standing, again

The relationship between Clyde and Clasis started even before Clasis was born, with ALMT Legal, in 2009.

Clasis, of course, was an offshoot of ALMT in 2011, inheriting the Clydes relationship.

The break-up happened only half-a-year after the hire of corporate partner Aneja from Luthra & Luthra in September 2010, which he had joined only a year earlier from rapidly disintegrating FoxMandal Little, as it then was.

Aneja commented at the time: “This is the kind of role which I had been looking at which gives me the ability and opportunity to lead and set up an office in Delhi.”

That opportunity did not turn out well.

Expansionist ambitions

Even in ALMT days, a problem in the relationship with Clydes had been a lack of referrals, according to ALMT after the break-up.

Since going independent, Clasis has not had an easier time of it, with a life marked by frequent expansion, followed by even more frequent exits.

Clasis started out strong, hiring Sumeet Lall as litigation partner from Parekh & Co in 2011, who is one of the few lateral hires who is still around to this day.

Later that year, best friend Clyde & Co senior associate Sidanth Rajagopal joined as an aviation partner, and shipping lawyer Harsh Pratap joined in 2012.

In 2013, the firm also hired from Grant Thornton indirect tax director Manoj Mishra, and Jay Cheema from Dhir & Dhir as an infrastructure partner.

It didn’t take long for everything to begin to unravel.

Co-founders, exeunt

In 2013, ALMT co-founding partner Shalini Agarwal, who had moved to Clasis during the breakup, left to go independent.

Rajagopal returned to Clydes in 2013. Clasis could have hoped to chalk this down as a quasi-secondment to strengthen the Clasis-Clyde relationship, but he ended up moving to Kaye Scholar in 2014.

In 2014, this was followed by Clasis co-founding partner Sakate Khaitan leaving with his Mumbai team to start Khaitan Legal Associates.

A short time later, Clasis’ entire Mumbai projects team under Ishtiaq Ali , who had also co-founded Clasis from ALMT, also went independent.

By November 2014, Aneja was the only original Clasis co-founding partner left at the firm, when Pratap, who had been hired in 2012, also departed.

The cycle repeats

Besides internal promotions, some external hires continued to happen though: Ashwin Sapra was roped in to head up its IP and healthcare vertical, and by January 2015, JurisCorp partner Mustafa Motiwala joined Clasis in Mumbai to rebuild the office from scratch.

Motiwala is the only major lateral hire as far as we can see, who’s still around at Clasis today, but his joining was followed by the hire of Lakshmikumaran & Sridharan IP partner Rahul Beruar, who’s not.

Only two months later in 2015, Manoj Mishra and Jay Cheema, who had both joined only two years earlier, had quit Clasis, as IP head Ashwin Sapra was poached by Cyril Amarchand Mangaldas.

Beruar, hired in 2015, lasted a sliver longer than most others, starting his own firm in Beruar & Beruar in January of this year.

Clasis Litigator Jaideep Singh, whom Clasis Law had hired in 2016 in Delhi, is also understood to have quit this year, and re-started his independent practice, with offices in Jaipur and Delhi.

The Clyde & Co associated Delhi-office website, lists the following contacts for Clasis:

  • Vineet Aneja
  • Mustafa Motiwala
  • Sumeet Lall
  • Rachna Khanna
  • Gaurav Wahie
  • Shwetabh Sinha
  • Jaideep Singh (who has gone independent)
  • Priyanka Anand
  • Neetika Ahuja
  • Parul Kashyap

The Mumbai office lists Motiwala, Aneja and Vikram Bhargava and Barasha Baruah Pathak.

Comments

Ex-Clasis 22 Mar 2018, 09:02
+21 -10
Clasis is one of the worst places to work at. They very well deserve this.
Ex-Clasis 22 Mar 2018, 09:10
+18 -9
So funny. This had to happen. This is where arrogance would have taken Mr. Aneja led Clasis, anyway. You reap what you sow.
Chai Ki Dukan Wala 22 Mar 2018, 09:42
+3 -9
arrey baba hum toh bole hi thhe! Hum hi best hoon!
Random 22 Mar 2018, 09:57
+15 -9
I swear, being in that firm is a total horror show. Everyone I know in the firm wants to leave, they are only looking for better opportunities. They have called it upon themselves.
Classic Mild 22 Mar 2018, 10:29
+21 -7
Hope that bonus which you never gave to me sees you through this troubled time. Remember - karma is a bitch. You treat your people badly and there will always be someone who will give you a taste of your own medicine and boy that tastes bitter. #joyrideisover.
Pity 24 Mar 2018, 11:11
+6 -5
I pity everyone working there if they don't give full bonuses. I will never recommend anyone to work there. A lot of firms have this habit of promising something as bonus and not giving it. Lie during recruitment because you need someone but then fall back on such promises. Bonus being the best way to lie and not fulfill. It's not only shocking but even sick that a firm like clasis does not pay bonuses or full bonuses. Or else they are doing really bad financially. Either way, such a place is never a good career move.
Clyded 22 Mar 2018, 10:31
+11 -5
So with this relationship going into the dust, does this mean that he will no longer be a Clyde Partner as well? What next?
Happy-Ex 22 Mar 2018, 10:36
+13 -8
Oh! This place deserves every bit of it. How can one flourish when they treat their own people badly. By far, the worst law firm experience ever. Will never suggest anyone to join this place. Although, reading this article seems like it won’t be here for long anyway.
SC adv 22 Mar 2018, 10:53
+7 -6
Finally! No idea why was Clyde with Clasis at the first place?
Guest 22 Mar 2018, 11:40
+7 -16
It is surprising that all the comments are by ex employees of Clasis. But also since when would an ex have anything good to speak about their previous employer. All firms across have people who have been loyal and have worked hard and reaped benefits and similarly there are people who have left maybe because of their inability to cope up or ideological differences but anonymously vent out their frustrations.
In there 22 Mar 2018, 12:46
+10 -9
Problem is that no one has reaped any benefits there. No one except....
As for idealogical differences- There is a difference in bieng idealogical and bieng indifferent. You can't be both. Try to be both and this happens.
Guest 22 Mar 2018, 13:26
+8 -6
No one or one in particular. There are people here from ever since the firm started. So are you trying to tell me that with the exception of the ones who left all other are people are without ambition or ideology.
In there 22 Mar 2018, 15:15
+11 -9
No. The ones there are stuck and waiting for the first opportunity to get out
SC adv 22 Mar 2018, 15:20
+9 -8
As far as I know the ones with the firm from the beginning are maybe just 6 or 7 compared to I guess 20+ people who left in past one year. Maybe opinions don’t, but Figures DO talk.
No 24 Mar 2018, 19:57
+5 -3
We have seen more leave than join. Most big partners left. No big partner joined. since Khaitan left there is no corporate practice in Mumbai. Since Ali left there is no projects practice. All practices have shut down. Looks like the firm is downsizing rather than growing. No one wants to grow in the reverse. Seems Clasis is a pro at this. Also a pro at making people leave and not getting anyone new.
Alias 25 Mar 2018, 05:17
+4 -2
I am Ex Clasis too. And honestly, I hope they don’t take anyone new and people read this thread before even thinking of joining Clasis. I have had a very very bad time at the firm. When I joined, that place had some of the best and talented people and almost all of them have now left. That and the work culture are the reasons that I left. In my opinion too, they don’t value their people and treat them badly.
Moby 23 Mar 2018, 08:38
+4 -2
The same way you just vented your frustration?
Not Ex-Clasis 22 Mar 2018, 11:58
+10 -10
May be because only someone who has worked with a place would really know about it. Why don’t people talk like that about Khaitan, SAM, karanjawala, Phoenix, etc. I personally know a friend who left a renowned firm and later joined Clasis. Never said a word against the previous firm but couldn’t stop saying things about the pathetic work culture at Clasis. So, that’s a very lame argument.
Guest 22 Mar 2018, 13:23
+10 -5
Really that is surprising as I have never heard everything positive about either any firm or any lawyer. People have opinions and opinions are not truths but only opinions.
Guest 22 Mar 2018, 13:36
+12 -4
Also are you trying to tell me that no one has ever left Khaitan, SAM, Phoenix, Karanjawala or they all left as they were too happy and couldn't bear a moment more of such joy.
Thanos 23 Mar 2018, 01:59
+5 -0
Well, Phoenix (Delhi) ain't a great place to work. Toxic environment and lots of internal politics.
Brother 23 22 Mar 2018, 12:35
+7 -3
I believe Clasis is a Clyde brand. They have Clasis in Singapore also and London. Would the Vineet led outfit also change their name to mark a true separation? What about all the work that they were getting from Clyde?
Guest reader 22 Mar 2018, 17:12
+11 -27
I have heard It's a good law firm and they not only value their clients but also their hardworking employees ..Also heard that the firm's clients are happy and most of the clients have been associated with them since long ..
Random 22 Mar 2018, 18:09
+13 -5
Dear Guest reader,
Awwwww! You are clearly working there. Good luck!
Guest Reader 23 Mar 2018, 09:46
+6 -8
Not yet. but won't mind ... anyways you are clearly an ex-employee who has grievances against the firm .. must have had hard time there.. it happens . I am hopeful you are having a great time with the existing firm/office and your mind is at peace .. I am sure it is helping in your productivity.. good luck
WeedyWonder 22 Mar 2018, 20:04
+3 -1
Yes that's what everyone says about Clyde.
Are you high? 23 Mar 2018, 07:36
+9 -0
I would LOVE to have some of what you're smoking. Bring it on. Its the weekend.
Not high 23 Mar 2018, 09:40
+1 -5
Not high.. that's why talking sense ..enjoy your weekend bro
BabuBhaiya 23 Mar 2018, 10:15
+5 -5
Surprised to hear about the work culture in the comments. Interned here multiple times, and never felt/saw anything thats been mentioned here. On the contrary, the work culture seemed to be relaxed and friendly. I guess all thats changed now.
2EX 23 Mar 2018, 12:44
+4 -9
TRUST DEFICIT: The impending Clyde and Clasis break up was known to LAST MAN STANDING (VA) since Nov 2017, but the same was kept in wraps, so as not to cause mass exodus from Clasis India. However the indications were very evident, like removing the name of London office from the Clasis Law India newsletter (Nov 2017 onwards), shredding of Clyde Co. brochures, firing of associates, giving up two third office space (renovated in 2016 with state of Art conference room), firing admin staffs etc. - the writing on the wall was clear - mistrust breeds mistrust.
2EX 23 Mar 2018, 12:46
+4 -6
VA original team had Mohit Sharma who also left VA/Clasis Law India.
Guest 23 Mar 2018, 13:14
+9 -6
I think to be fair to the firm and the people, Mr Aneja is good at his work and that is why he was chosen by Clyde to spearhead the India project. Some of my closest friends work at the firm and they maybe aggressive work wise but are not unfair human beings at all. Mr aneja for one believes in sharing his pie and that is evident in the fact that they paid their lawyers really well. I'm not privy to what ensued in the last few years but I know he leads by example. From his humble beginnings to making it to equity partnership at Clyde it was his hard work and nothing else. Clients swear by him and I was fortunate to have learnt a lot from him under his guidance - yes, I am an ex employee and not at all disgruntled. Perhaps the firms dynanics were set as such by the Clyde people that only performers survive or for that matter the pressure flows top down. If you are getting paid tier one salaries and sitting in a lavish office in Barakhamba what else do you expect ? I wish there well in whatever they do next and I'm sure so do their clients.
2EX 23 Mar 2018, 13:23
+4 -6
ruse is the art, which VA played deftly.
Haha 24 Mar 2018, 11:18
+6 -7
Tier 1 salary? I joined from a better firm and I was still paid shit. I thought I might grow here but without work where is the growth? No use even becoming a partner if the work is crap. Their increments are bad too. Had to quit. Pity the existing lawyers. Forget your increment and bonuses.
Alias 23 Mar 2018, 16:21
+1 -0
A story where nobody in India cares about any of the firms. Clasis, Clyde & ALMT.
Guest 23 Mar 2018, 21:31
+7 -3
Two relationships of Clyde and Co going kaput in such a short span of time. And strangely enough all the negativity is directed towards Clasis . So makes one wonder if the problem is with Clyde's inability to keep its end of the bargain.
Alias 24 Mar 2018, 03:37
+7 -9
Maybe, but that doesn’t take away the facts as mentioned about Clasis. There has to be some truth in all these many people saying such things. I also had a friend who worked there, said they counted how many times people took smoking breaks, how many times people looked at their phones, how long were lunch breaks, etc. They are now so senisitive to people leaving that the moment someone resigns, they just ask you to leave right there. No need to serve notice period. Which firm does that? I have worked with a firm, fully served my notice, when I left I met everyone, went for my farewell party, the manager partner wished me luck. I have never heard such things about other law firms. This is so insensitive. No place can ever function with such bad attitude. I have seen my friend worried, sometimes crying and that person now has a job at a top tier firm and one of the smartest people I know. Something is so wrong with how Clasis functions.

PS- This is a personal opinion that I have developed basis- being by the side of a friend who went through a very difficult time in that firm.

Maybe it’s the best firm ever, but honestly, it just doesn’t look so and it would be even more difficult to believe so too.
2EX 24 Mar 2018, 11:13
+5 -9
The 'Best firm' is so sensitive that they follow you and count minutes of your stay on the floor post resignation, cause your freedom would make the not so free lawyers of the firm feel bad. So sensitive toward their lawyers and their ex.
Balm 25 Mar 2018, 08:23
+5 -2
Kian I must congratulate you on the catharsis that you provide to students and lawyers through the comments section. You are doing great social service.
geninue advise 24 Apr 2018, 19:02
+4 -0
There were two managing partners in this firm. One sitting in the administration managing the resources and the other one sitting in the management managing the administrator and the sovereign decisions.

Key to success offlately was to impress the administrator and you would be automatically managed nicely by the management. Hope someone (who was as an ideal person,human, boss and a managing partner long time back) realizes that.
Amboooks indeed 3 May 2018, 09:23
+2 -0
Interesting the way you wrote it
TRUE 28 Sept 2021, 10:15
+0 -0
AGREE
Ambikacian 13 Sept 2018, 09:55
+0 -0
its not often that people want the worst for someone. i recently met a bunch of ex-clasis employees, and man.... i now feel that Clasis is a military hostel where you are kept under track for even a sneeze. quality of work is one thing, but behaviour and attitude towards your own employees is another. How is Clasis still floating? oh wait, they are half the size now (in terms of lawyers and space both). How is Clasis still half floating? only a matter of time.
ExClassis 24 Jan 2019, 19:38
+1 -0
Oh! Just read it once again. Having worked at quite a few firms based in Delhi, this firm is seriously pathetic. Aneja doesn't even treat his existing partners as partners forget about the junior and senior lawyers. People literally have to beg for bonus including the partners. Only those who do not get anything better in profession are stuck there, at the mercy of VA.