Cyril Amarchand confirms: 2 Mumbai partners & Cyril, Vandana move to Delhi where 17 senior hires done, dozen in oven

Cyril Shroff, who will launch his take on Amarchand Mangaldas today with new partnership Cyril Amarchand Mangaldas, has confirmed the lateral hires made so far and partner moves to Delhi, while revealing that he planned to spend around half his time in Delhi in the first 12 months of the office.

Shroff said: “Both Vandana and I are going to be there 2 or 3 days a week [on average] for at least 12 months. 50% of my time (will be) in Delhi. Some weeks which need me, some weeks which need Vandana.”

He added that two Mumbai partners – partner and Mumbai region tax head SR Patnaik and projects and regulatory partner Ramanuj Kumar – would relocate to his new Delhi office at the end of May. The Delhi office would open doors for business on 1 June.

Direct tax specialist Patnaik had joined Amarchand Mumbai from Luthra & Luthra Delhi in 2013, having practiced since 1994, including as a chartered accountant for Luthra & Luthra Chartered Accountants between 2000 and 2008.

Kumar is a projects lawyer who graduated from NLSIU Bangalore in 2004, holds a 2008 Harvard Law School LLM and was promoted to partner in Mumbai in 2013.

Some departments will be smaller - capital markets will be bigger practice over here in Mumbai but since we operate as one firm, it doesn’t matter whether they’re in Bombay or Delhi

For the first time, Shroff confirmed the accuracy of all of the partner or senior level hires reported by Legally India to date since March 2015, namely:

Shroff said that some “very senior people” had been hired in Delhi so far. “The (average) age group of partners in Delhi is about 8 to 10 years more senior to the ones in Bombay. Bombay are a lot of young partners – therefore I think there’ll be some plus and minus – they’ll be more mature, but at the same time they’ll have stronger views on things.”

12 more partners, aims for 90 lawyer headcount in Delhi

“There are about a further dozen (lateral hire partners) in the works,” he added.

These hires June or July of this year would take the new Delhi office up to a 28 to 30 partner-level headcount, alongside a 91 lawyer headcount (including partners), said Shroff.

The total headcount across all offices (including the “legacy Amarchand Mumbai region” and campus hires who will join in coming months), would be 589 to 590 fee-earners, including 91 partners nationally.

“The ones (lateral hires) already out in the open, they have already all met in a group and the chemistry was fabulous,” added Shroff. “We got all of them together (about 14 days ago) and had dinner and they got along like a house on fire…

“It’s not a work environment – but it’s a good start.”

Until the office was fully set up on 1 June, partners who had already started in Delhi would work from home.

In addition to several new partners who “come with a book which will travel with them”, said Shroff, more junior Delhi partners who were good at execution would also work on Mumbai-centric work.

“It’s a misnomer to think if you are based in Delhi you should only work for Delhi clients. [We are] going to staff Delhi partners on Bombay matters and vice versa.”

“We want to function like a location agnostic firm,” said Shroff. “It’s the opposite of what has been happening.”

Shardul Shroff is the brother of Cyril Shroff and the former co-managing partner of pre-break-up Amarchand Mangaldas alongside Cyril.

Shardul launched his new firm Shardul Amarchand Mangaldas yesterday.

Cyril Shroff was speaking as part of an in-depth 60 minute interview with Legally India on the firm’s strategy, other parts of which will be published in Mint tomorrow.

Comments

Cakil 11 May 2015, 02:26
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Great work kian.

Was just wondering why is there silence from the other big gun.

Many may see this as shardul unready for the new system.

Which is a pity really considering he was the one who had the upper hand when all this started
kianganz 11 May 2015, 06:18
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Thanks!

Shardul is giving press interviews today... Will publish as soon as information is available.
SAM 11 May 2015, 06:38
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SAM three offices in Mumbai operational. CAM working from home in Delhi.
SAM branding etc ready. Associates and Partners had a grand party at the Hyatt yesterday. Also all members have received goody bags today with new firm materials, branded biz cards, branded power banks, t-shirt and coffee mugs. CAM nothing.
Who did you say is unready??
LAP 11 May 2015, 11:22
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Goodie bags et al dont get business. Grand parties dont get business. Branded power banks, T.Shirts, Coffee mugs etc dont get business.

Business comes from proper teams and team efforts. It is clear who is focusing on what.
frilly p 11 May 2015, 03:52
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if it us location agnostic what happen to nil?
logo logo 11 May 2015, 04:28
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Can't get over cyril shroff.Com. are you serious?
cam 11 May 2015, 05:26
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why is niti paul chawla never mentioned in any of the lists? she has been hired as a partner in cam. kian can u plz rectify this.
kianganz 11 May 2015, 08:50
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Thank you for pointing out, accidental omission, now corrected!
well well 11 May 2015, 10:39
+2 -1
Rishi Anand is a partner?
Aston 11 May 2015, 05:38
+1 -0
apart from Peninsula in Parel & Lentin chambers in Fort, any other new office space CAM has acquired?
REAL Partner 11 May 2015, 07:37
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"In addition to several new partners who “come with a book which will travel with them”, said Shroff, more junior Delhi partners who were good at execution would also work on Mumbai-centric work.

“It's a misnomer to think if you are based in Delhi you should only work for Delhi clients. [We are] going to staff Delhi partners on Bombay matters and vice versa.”"

This is the simple statement of the truth of Indian law firm partnerships - most are simply (over/under)paid "employees". Wear the tag and bill more...wag the tail and get more.

Question: How is someone without a "book" even a "Partner"??
Answer: Simply because he/she is in the good "books" of the Promoter (aka Managing Partner).

Sadly, this model ain't going too far in raising the bar for the profession in this country!
What is a book 11 May 2015, 08:40
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The question is what is a "Book" - what you have are relationships, say with a KKR. But if KKR is not doing any deals what can you do? Also, if someone has been working for AMSS for say 10 years and services Cyril's book/relationship - don't you think they have added to those relationship as well?
CEO 11 May 2015, 10:30
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Kian, whether this interview with Cyril is the result of leverage of your association with a mainstream media ? You have ensured that you can't be ignored..
kianganz 11 May 2015, 10:44
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In part, yes, it definitely helps but, throwing all modesty to the wind, I don't think LI can be ignored either :)

In fact, we actually tend to be quite picky about interview targets, in that there usually needs to be a news hook or something else that justifies a big interview since doing an interview properly is also a significant time investment for us.
CEO 11 May 2015, 11:03
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But Shroff's were showing you cold shoulders after your extensive reporting on the will issue and for mudslinging that happens on your comments section. You need to be bit more clear on your moderation policy. Sometimes, it does appear ambiguous.. As a Li well wisher, I am advising you this and I have nothing against you.
kianganz 11 May 2015, 11:16
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Thanks for your comment.

You'll actually find that the Shroffs during the mediation were showing everyone the cold shoulder, as they were required to do under the terms of the mediation, I believe...

Our moderation policies are fairly clear - criticism of law firms' head honchos is generally permitted (as long as not defamatory) and I think the Shroffs are mature and battle-hardened enough to be able to take criticism, even if it comes anonymously on a website...

Here is the sneak preview counterpart interview with Shardul:
http://www.legallyindia.com/Law-firms/shardul-amarchand-bombay-bangalore-plans

We'll be publishing a fuller version shortly in a bit.
CEO 11 May 2015, 11:27
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Excellent, but try not to miss the train.. Sometimes, esp in your sector, it is no point publishing after it is out and read elsewhere.
kianganz 11 May 2015, 11:32
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Thanks, though I disagree, there are 2 points.

1. I consider LI a paper of record for the legal industry and a one-stop shop someone should go to if they want to know what's going on in most sectors. If someone else reports a piece of news first, we'll document that report and give due credit before it disappears into a paywalled garden, so that people can continue to find the information if they need it without paying for it.

2. We don't usually republish things that are iffy or thinly sourced and in more complex stories, such as Shroff v Shroff, we usually err on the side of caution and double check with our own sources before re=publishing.

I think you'll find that in retrospect our track record on [url]http://www.legallyindia.com/tag/shroff-vs-shroff[/url] stories has been pretty much 100% in the last six months :)
Magic Tomato 11 May 2015, 11:48
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I love the way people give the Legally India folks advice on how to run their business. Excellent display of condescension and Iknoweverythingbetterthanyouness.
CEO 11 May 2015, 21:03
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It is neither. Jus a word of caution from the people in the same business. Have treaded the same path and suffered the same issues..
Mammon 11 May 2015, 17:51
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Any plans for Cal? Since SAM has an office there
Pious 11 May 2015, 18:14
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The lesson I would draw from this episode is that nothing - no relationship - is permanent in this world. Certainly not in the murky world of law firms and in politics. Mostly it is about what works for a professional at that moment. Friends turn foes, brothers become enemies and family becomes a mere word in the battle to reach the top. Bit sad because this takes away the whole joy of working together in a team to achieve something great. But then u dont expect lawyers to do that, do you?!
AMSS Alum 12 May 2015, 06:10
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Undoubtedly CAM has made some brilliant hires (and some not-so-brilliant ones) but it is debatable whether their strategy of a single figurehead will work better in the long run than SAM's delegated book. CSS' pitch to new joiners has been very clearly that they don't need to bother building a book and should only be willing to execute well. This works well for some organisations (think Virgin) and not so well for others (think UB Group). Doesn't make it any better or worse. What will decide the winner in the long run is if Cyril can keep the more ambitious and independent-minded partners happy with their slice of the pie and if Shardul can motivate some of the brand-riders to be more proactive in getting clients.
Projects? 12 May 2015, 09:41
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No major hires by CAM in Projects and Regulatory for its Delhi push - Its a focus area for most delhi firms
bored 3 May 2016, 13:18
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Hi Kian,
Could you enlighten on CAM's Ahmedabad office?