JSA has promoted 12 to retained partner, 11 principal associates, 13 senior associates across lots of alma mater

JSA’s new batch of 12 retained partners
JSA’s new batch of 12 retained partners

J Sagar Associates (JSA) has announced the promotion of 12 of its lawyers to associate partner level.

Furthermore, 11 senior associates have been promoted to principal associate level, and 13 associates to senior associate level.

We understand that there no equity promotions were pronounced this year.

The JSA Gurgaon office is home to 7 out of the 12 new retained partners, followed by three in Delhi and two in Bangalore.

The Mumbai office saw no new retained partners.

Three of the 12 new retained partners are women.

In a press statement, joint managing partner Amit Kapur & Vivek Chandy said: “Our heartiest congratulations to our colleagues who have taken an important step in their career progression. We are sure they will continue to excel and do us proud. At JSA we continue to remain committed to extending equal opportunity to our colleagues in their professional journey with us.”

The new partners are graduates from a wide range of law schools, with two from Symbiosis Law School Pune. National law schools are represented by one each from GNLU Gandhinagar, NUJS Kolkata and NLSIU Bangalore.

One new retained partner each is an alumnus of ILS Pune and Delhi University.

New retained partners

  1. Bharat Bhushan (Gurgaon, Institute of Law and Management Studies Gurgaon 2008)
  2. Bharati Joshi (Gurgaon, Symbiosis Law School 2006)
  3. Manish Jha (Delhi, University of Delhi Campus Law Centre 1999)
  4. Manuel Jose (Bangalore, Symbiosis Law School 2005)
  5. Nikhil Sharma (Delhi, Army Institute of Law Mohali)
  6. Prakriti Jaiswal (Gurgaon, Mumbai University 2010)
  7. Rajat Joneja (Delhi, Symbiosis Law School 2008)
  8. Rajul Bohra (Gurgaon, GNLU Gandhinagar 2010)
  9. Ronak Ajmera (Gurgaon, ILS Pune 2009)
  10. Shantanu Jindel (Gurgaon, NUJS Kolkata 2010)
  11. Siddharth K Vedula (Bangalore, NLSIU Bangalore)
  12. Zain Pandit (Gurgaon, Cardiff University 2009)

New principal associates

  1. Adil Ladha (Mumbai)
  2. Gaurav Arora (Gururgram)
  3. Janmali Manikala (New Delhi)
  4. Kartikeya G.S. (Gurugram)
  5. KZ Kuriyan (Bengaluru)
  6. Pallavi Banerjee (Mumbai)
  7. Pracheta Bhattacharya (Mumbai)
  8. Rahul Kinra (New Delhi)
  9. Sherill Pal (Bengaluru)
  10. Swapneil Akut (Mumbai)
  11. Unnati Agarwal (New Delhi)

New senior associates

  1. Adhiraj Gupta (Gurugram)
  2. Akshay Bhagchandani (Gurugram)
  3. Anshu Bansal (Gurugram)
  4. Ayisha Mansoor (Bengaluru)
  5. Hema Priyadarshini Patnaik (Gurugram)
  6. Kumar Kislay (New Delhi)
  7. Lakshmi Ramachandran (Bengaluru)
  8. Pooja Thomas (Gurugram)
  9. Raveena Dhamija (New Delhi)
  10. Ronak Thakkar (Mumbai)
  11. Shweta Gupta (Gurugram)
  12. Tushar Nagar (Mumbai)
  13. Yajas Setlur (Bengaluru)

Comments

Congrats! 3 Apr 2019, 10:58
+6 -15
Congrats Rajul! Way to go, well deserved. Excellent lawyer.
Investment Banker 3 Apr 2019, 11:10
+7 -9
Many congratulations Mr. Bhattacharya. Truly well deserved.
NUJS Junior 3 Apr 2019, 11:30
+5 -4
Congrats Kislay bhaia! Super proud
In-house 3 Apr 2019, 11:34
+7 -9
Congratulations Rajul. Well deserved!
Guest 3 Apr 2019, 11:36
+14 -13
Congratulations Adil Ladha, very well deserved.
GC 3 Apr 2019, 11:36
+17 -12
Congratulations Adil, very well deserved
Silent Observer 3 Apr 2019, 11:51
+6 -2
Congratulations Zain!
Insider 3 Apr 2019, 11:59
+6 -2
Many congratulations Adil and Swapneil.

Hard work and dedication should always be rewarded. Glad to see that happening here.
Guest 3 Apr 2019, 12:05
+5 -10
We are proud of you Rajul, it's all because of your hard and dedicated work , Keep it up !
NLUO 3 Apr 2019, 12:09
+11 -2
Congratulations Adhiraj, Anshu and Hema! :)
Ghosh 3 Apr 2019, 12:25
+15 -9
Looks like JSA rewards loyalty more than excellency. Some on the list have been in JSA for donkey years. Congrats on finally making it to partnership.
Insider 4 Apr 2019, 07:36
+2 -1
That isn't the case always. Some people who had been here for long have not been promoted due to may reasons.

However, there is no point in calling out JSA specifically for this. ALL firms do the same wherein loyalty is also rewarded along with excellence.
C5 3 Apr 2019, 12:42
+14 -0
What pay scales are we looking at ?
Kian, your salary survey for law firms has been loooong overdue!
Himalaya 3 Apr 2019, 12:48
+9 -3
Well done, Jannu.
Guest 3 Apr 2019, 13:10
+5 -0
Congrats Ronak Ajmera

all the very best
Alias 3 Apr 2019, 13:18
+4 -6
Congrats Adhiraj! Very well deserved
RGNUL junior 3 Apr 2019, 14:53
+10 -1
Congratulations Gaurav. Well deserved!
accha 3 Apr 2019, 15:41
+1 -1
Looks like all partner promotions are for the Delhi/Gurgoan office. No new partners in Mumbai?
Promotions 3 Apr 2019, 16:00
+7 -3
After one becomes, say, an equity partner - then what next? Are there no further steps left in the ladder? Isn't the ladder really small? One's professional life spans over 35 years..and the promotions are over in your first 15-17 years!
Lol 4 Apr 2019, 06:29
+10 -3
Cause that’s all life is, isn’t it? A ladder to see yourself rise up so that you can see who’s below you and stay happy?
At 40-45, if it’s a promotion you need to make yourself feel better, shouldn’t have been a lawyer in the first place.
Vercingetorix 6 Apr 2019, 10:48
+0 -0
Completely agree with you. Whoever that duffer is (whom you replied to) obviously doesn't understand the profession or the longevity required.
Lexpert 3 Apr 2019, 17:04
+5 -1
Congrats Manuel & Sid Vedula!
Vercingetorix 6 Apr 2019, 10:57
+7 -0
Anyone who paints law as a litigation vs. corporate battle or vice-versa has a limited mind. IMHO, the "law" cannot be dissected between lit and non-lit. They both run concurrent with the other. Your lit experience makes your non-lit better and similarly, your non-lit/transaction/advisory work makes your lit game stronger. I don't think you can do either competently having experience in the other. I'm surprised at such a churlish attitude from you considering you are a self-professed litigator. The one stand-out for me whenever I brief senior counsels (which I do on a regular basis FYI) is their curiosity and eagerness to learn - this could also be a function of me briefing the counsels I like. The seniors whom you must be interacting with in Court started their career doing anything and everything, and didn't pigeon-hole themselves the way you are. And as far as arguing before Court is concerned - no one is a lawyer unless he/she can negotiate and argue. Sometimes convincing 10 people in a room of different mindsets is more difficult than convincing a single judge. So expand your mind dear friend - it's not an us v/s. them - we're in an ocean of knowledge and we get paid to learn and be creative.
Litigator 3 Apr 2019, 19:46
+15 -16
We have made a habit of over-glorifying these promotions - thanks to some legal blogs. At the end of day, some of you have been tricked into working as corporate slaves - for days and nights. No quality of life at all.

And who knows you? Is your neighbour able to identify your achievement on becoming a 'retained partner'? Seems very unlikely.

Stop running after these over-glorified designations. Real law is litigation. Try to sweat it out there. That's the real battleground. That is the real aspect of this profession. Not these made up designations at law firms.

In an institutionalised structure - the court identifies and recognises a renowned litigator (or say Senior Advocate). Not some equity partner of some law firm.
Okay 4 Apr 2019, 04:22
+10 -10
Tum Tis Hazari ke chakkar kaato, we're happy where we are.
Tis Hazari 4 Apr 2019, 05:26
+10 -4
Was that a comeback? No wonder, you are confined to four walls of a law firm. Kabhi maidan-e-jang mean aao. Don't underestimate yourself.

Have you even the guts to stand on your feet and argue before a bench in High Court? Unlikely.


Till then - be happy bouncing umpteen e-mails to each other. At least that's what majorly corporate firms are about. Trying to look fancy.
Okay 4 Apr 2019, 06:40
+7 -6
Arey yaar, what is this smug condescending tone? I thought you needed to know the law to argue before a bench, why bring guts into this? Merely because I work in a more stable set-up than you do, you're somehow better? This is the equivalent of bootstrapping entrepreneurs crowing #selfmade till they're hoarse. "Maidan-e-jang" hahaha are you hearing yourself dude, you're a lawyer not a foot soldier, get down off your high horse, senior saab ne chai-samose mangwaye hain
Corp 4 Apr 2019, 07:29
+6 -4
Guts do matter - to argue before HC. Thinking on feet does matter. But, sadly, that doesn't come from churning drafts and filling in blobs in shareholding agreements. :)
LOL 5 Apr 2019, 13:07
+1 -3
Looking at your English, you appear to be the same guy who couldn't get placed or whose college couldn't attract corporate firms.

Grapes are indeed sour.
Be Honest 4 Apr 2019, 05:42
+8 -1
Is litigation all about Tis-Hazari? You know so much about litigation! Impressive. Andar se tujhe bhi pata hai ki tu kitna khush hai drafting karte hue. Corp law is glorified clerkship.

Meanwhile - ek rent deed bana do. Or tweak that shareholding agreement.
Complacency 4 Apr 2019, 05:52
+4 -1
This comment reeks of complacency. That's what law firms are looking in - to retain you.

They want you to be happy drafting [or may I say - 'tweaking'] agreements for your entire life. That's clearly lowering the bar for yourself.
Litigation 4 Apr 2019, 05:38
+4 -2
That's right. Been there, done that. All that glitters is not gold. Freshers - if you don't doubt yourself, join Bar.

Corp law is - at best - for mediocre minds. Not challenging at all. Ask any HC judge - he'll say the same. You must realise that corp law guys have little respect amongst the legal fraternity, largely.

If not HC judge - ask any old warhorse at law firm. If he's honest - he'll tell you why he stuck in here.
Respectfully Disagree 4 Apr 2019, 06:37
+24 -5
I have been a litigator for over a decade now and have family members doing both lit and corp work. I don't agree with this sort of gate-keeping. Lawyers are not gladiators, there’s no battlefield. The thrill of the bar and bench game is unmatched, but to confine all law to courtrooms is foolish. The general aura of this whole comment chain is of smug condescension, pretending that litigation has no problems. As a no-last-name lawyer, I’ve had to struggle against nepotism, judicial arbitrariness and the general struggle that litigation lawyers tend to glorify. While not my style, I can see why bright young minds might reject the 12k pm offers and accept 18lpa packages. In the long run there’s pay parity and more but there’s no denying that the slog is far worse in a traditional litigation system.

Also, "Real law is litigation" is the most dishonest, problematic and absolutely idiotic statement I have ever read.
Disagree 4 Apr 2019, 07:22
+8 -2
Have been in a Big 4 law firm for 9 years, in supposedly one of the better teams there.

Largely, the work revolves around drafting - or maybe, some negotiations that involves very little law. All that happens there is - trying hard to look that you are busy + arguing over some foolish FEMA interpretations (sometimes) AND MAJORLY - drafting and tweaking agreements.

Can't see how a person 'learns law' in a law firm. He is an over-glorified clerk. That's an honest experience. The thrill of the Bar is not matched. Yes, there is struggle for the first 5-7 years in practice - but that is negated by the thrill that it brings in. Corp law is no match to lit.

The law firms lure youngsters for 12-18la/packages - only to make them lose on the initial learning curve (which they would have got as litigators). Only little later, the hardworking ones realise the loss.

Think big. Think litigation.
Do what you feel like 4 Apr 2019, 07:24
+9 -3
Have read some of the comments of the litigation folks here and all i can say is probably you guys are really fortunate to try your hand at "real law" and not worry about the monetary component associated with any profession. Unfortunately, some people have bills to pay which a law firm job can only help achieve.

Maybe your law firm peers aren't interested in arguing in court and prefer sitting and tweaking agreements in a cubicle for a living. Why hold a grudge against them? They are putting in the effort and the hours too. Probably not as much as a litigator or for that matter of fact any person who has to put in physical work in addition to using their mental capabilities - say an event manager, a retail employee, etc. And if and when they do get promoted, it is merely an acknowledgement of their efforts which should only be applauded and appreciated.

Maybe it would be a better idea to take up the disparity in salaries with your respective litigating seniors or keep this in mind when you become a senior yourself and be generous to your juniors and bring a change. I think that is the only way the gap can be bridged.

For now, many congratulations to all promotees!
Nopes 4 Apr 2019, 07:26
+4 -1
"to confine all law to courtrooms is foolish".

Kaunsa law chalta hai law firms main? Law firms are majorly about churning drafts. Very little law involved. They put in the values and commercials, as dictated by bankers/corporates. That's majorly what they do.

Its a readymade cloth. They tailor it, as the customer wishes so. That's corporate law in India.
Lol 4 Apr 2019, 09:23
+4 -2
Have you ever been in an actual law firm? You think 300+ lawyer firms like Khaitan do nothing but transactions? Corporate advisory is a big part of what firms do, which is as much interpretation of law as litigators have to do.
C5 4 Apr 2019, 08:02
+4 -1
something which i don't understand is, why the Litigation team in a Law Firm is always paid less than Corporate team !
I know Corporate brings in more moolah than Litigation...but still.
Lit 4 Apr 2019, 08:19
+5 -0
Because - litigation in a corp law firm means that you are stuck doing the right thing at wrong place.
True 4 Apr 2019, 08:46
+1 -1
True what the Litigator has to say.
Yes 4 Apr 2019, 11:28
+2 -1
Yes, the real truth about corporate law firms is out there to see. Looks rosy from outside - but ends up making you a clerk.
kianganz 4 Apr 2019, 09:05
+13 -3
On the other hand, playing devil's advocate (hah), litigation is also not all roses and wine, and a large number of litigators burn out and leave.

Off the top of my head, as in part mentioned above, unscientifically:

1. Remuneration is mostly really bad, at least initially, and many seniors will treat juniors as clerks, basically.
2. Litigators (at least some) will be dependent on their law firm or in-house 'clerical' buddies for briefs.
3. A LOT of waiting around in courts doing nothing or asking for adjournments or putting up with bureaucracy or time-wasting opposing advocates, which is basically also 'clerical' work, though it involves speaking sometimes.
4. The bar is pretty damn sexist.
5. Judges are worse than most law firm bosses (ok, this one's arguable).
6. Dealing with the scorching heat / humidity and the dusty outdoors every day (at least in places like Delhi, Mumbai or Chennai), as opposed to a spending all day in a nicely air-conditioned fridge at your desk, with amenities like gym, canteen, etc.
7. Very hard to get into without a godfather compared to law firms.
8. Litigation is all consuming - work hours can theoretically be even more erratic than law firms (?), and achieving any semblance of work life balance may be easier in some law firms (though your mileage may vary there, depending on your firm).
9. Lack of a safety net (financial or otherwise).
10. Lack of career options: the only way is to keep doing what you're doing, perhaps in different fora. From law firms, you can more easily move to in-house, perhaps the business side or different professions?
Solid argument 4 Apr 2019, 11:20
+3 -3
"Dealing with the scorching heat / humidity and the dusty outdoors every day (at least in places like Delhi, Mumbai or Chennai), as opposed to a spending all day in a nicely air-conditioned fridge at your desk, with amenities like gym, canteen, etc..."

Is that a good enough reason? Wow - your arguments are pretty solid, Kian. :)

Basically - you gotta sweat it out in lit. And if you sweat enough - you will probably end better than being stagnant in law firms whole your life.
Tough but success 4 Apr 2019, 11:26
+5 -2
Yes - it's tough life, initially. Less remuneration, yes. But, that is part of learning curve. Ultimately - in the longer run - if you persist and have some perseverance, you are better off. Can say that with some experience.

The problem - is kids lack perseverance these days. Quick moolah doesn't help in longer run. If you want to make it big or harbour a dream for Senior gown/elevation - you gotta persist.

Behind every success, there gotta be some pain, said Bob Dylan.
Appeasement 4 Apr 2019, 11:44
+4 -2
Kian's comment seems to be an appeasement for his corp law firm clients. :)
Insider 4 Apr 2019, 09:23
+4 -3
Sir/Ma'am,

With due respect to your standing as a litigator, I hope you will appreciate that there are more aspects to practicing law than just arguing in the court.

Also, there is no harm in choosing corporate slavery (as you term it) over litigating. Regarding your choice of words, I am sure you know that "slaves" do not have a freedom of choice. Whereas anyone working in a law firm does it out of choice. Sure there are incentives which make it lucrative however the aspect of choice cannot be negated.

Further, do remember, that irrespective of whether you practice in the court or in a corporate office, you are still practicing the LAW. And calling your fellow brethrens "slave" is rather unbecoming of a lawyer (litigator or otherwise).

Regards.
Guest 4 Apr 2019, 11:17
+8 -3
Anybody who tries paint a holier than thou image of litigators are blind to the state of the bulk of the trial courts in this country. What happens there can scarcely be called practice of law at least. Which is why hundreds of lawyers who are still earning comfortable living down there still have very little knowledge of actual law. Same goes with a lot of judges there. I agree that things are much better in the high courts and obviously the Supreme Court, but the lawyers practising there still form the minority of the litigators in the country. And I believe arranging so that disputes do not happen are just as important as fighting those disputes in court in the broad framework of law.
Disclaimer: I'm not a law firm associate.
Guest 3 Apr 2019, 21:49
+4 -0
What prompted so many promotions in gurgaon. strange indeed.
Rohann 4 Apr 2019, 04:38
+1 -2
Can there be a comparison of partnership strengths in top tier firms like CAM, AZB, KCO, SAM, L&L & JSA-to see how many partners do they have- equity and non-equity. Total number of legal professionals employed. And also the packages offered at different levels. Believe CAM still rules the market. AMSS before its split may have been far bigger though.
John Doe 4 Apr 2019, 05:20
+0 -0
What is the salary growth rate at top Indian Law firms?
Corp law is no law 4 Apr 2019, 05:32
+3 -6
Corporate law is for lazy asses. Been there for about 8 years - I think I just wasted those many years.

Should have started practicing soon after law school. Please please don't get tricked by such promotional features.

Promotions are a promotional features of law firms. If you have the slightest talent - join the Bar and start practising in the High Court. Pays you much more in the longer run.
Partner 4 Apr 2019, 07:39
+6 -3
Tend to agree with what people arguing in for litigation have to say.

As a corporate Partner in Big 4 - I wish I had joined the Bar before. After spending 20-22 years in my small cubicle - I honestly, sometimes, regret my decision. Bored of doing the same work, day in and day out. There's stagnancy, after a while. No denial in that.

Meanwhile - my batchmates - who did struggle initially in lit (that's inevitable) - are raring to go. 3 have been elevated to the Bench, others made Seniors, and still others raking in a lot more moolah now (even though I started with a better package, initially).

Even though won't admit it in open - but litigators close in very quickly and race ahead of you.
Lol 4 Apr 2019, 08:52
+10 -6
Yeah you're definitely a partner with 22 years of exp and not some rando kid fresh out of college telling yourself that not getting placed was a choice you made.
Leon 4 Apr 2019, 08:03
+4 -4
I hardly think a partner in a Big 4 law firm will comment here
big 4 law partner 4 Dec 2020, 10:13
+0 -0
you will be surprised how much we love gossip...
JS pays less 4 Apr 2019, 08:21
+4 -2
Is it true that JSA pays substantially less to retained partner than other Big 5/6? Atleast, that's what the market murmurs have to say.
Yes 4 Apr 2019, 09:02
+3 -1
Yes. There's huge difference - about 30-40% less.
Ex SAM/ CAM 4 Apr 2019, 11:00
+3 -2
Definitely pays better than the AMSS twins and L&L. Not sure abt Azb, Khaitan and Trilegal.
No way 4 Apr 2019, 11:21
+5 -3
NO WAY! Who are you kidding. JSA pays the least out of Big 6. EVERYBODY knows that.
-- 4 Apr 2019, 14:49
+5 -3
Actually, that's a popular misconception. JSA's pay is way below the other 5, yes. But they more than makeup for it with the RevShare system, with around 10 (or 12, not sure)% of their hourly billing credited to them directly. More often than not this leads to a double or sometimes 2.5x of their base retainer every month, which will handily make JSA among the top paymasters at that level.
Insider 4 Apr 2019, 15:06
+2 -2
Insider here again.

Although not 2.5x, however from known experience, I can say that if your base is 15L PA, you can end up making around 25L PA (inclusive of your bill sharing and bonus).
Insider 4 Apr 2019, 16:06
+4 -3
I am also an Insider

End up making 25L PA (with 15 PA base)..at JSA? What are you smoking, bro?

Just have a look at 4PQE salaries + bonus. JSA doesn't come near CAM/SAM/Khaitan!
JSA insider 4 Apr 2019, 19:30
+1 -2
Hey, that's not accurate scale. As I understand PAs start with around 25-26 as base and get an additional 6 odd as bonus and get about 8L - 10L minimum as bill share every year.
Ex SAM/ CAM 5 Apr 2019, 06:28
+0 -0
Then you (personally) got a bad deal. (No pun)
Insider 5 Apr 2019, 12:22
+2 -0
I am sure you are an Insider too. (working at JSA? let's catch up).

Just clarifying that the stats mentioned in my OP are actually true, I have made those numbers.

Regarding what I am smoking, join me at Pandey sometime if you are around. Will share the good stuff.
No way 4 Apr 2019, 16:08
+3 -3
Just have a look at fresher recruitments. It's a known secret that JSA partners return from Day Zero recruitments - with no kids accepting their sub-standard salaries.

Of course - they claim that they have abandoned the practice of going to Day Zero.
Proof? 5 Apr 2019, 04:52
+0 -0
Can you quickly name 1-2 colleges JSA has gone to for rec in the last 5 years? AFAIK they have completely stopped the practice after they faced QC issues with some NLU grads
kianganz 5 Apr 2019, 05:02
+1 -0
This is correct, JSA is not doing campus recruitments anymore, as far as I'm aware.

https://www.legallyindia.com/home/9-top-firms-hire-10-more-214-from-campus-for-2018-khaitan-goes-80-20-jsa-opts-out-of-campus-circus-nujs-keeps-shtum-again-20170428-8479
Reply to Kian 5 Apr 2019, 10:42
+2 -0
Check from NLU -Delhi batch of 2016. Also NLS, Bangalore.

They will confirm that partners did come there - only to return empty handed. They gave out 3-4 offers - but ALL rejected. Major embarrassment did happen. Being a placement member (of NLS Bangalore), I can even confirm the names of those partners in private.

Even the waitlisted candidates rejected the offers.

AFTER THAT FIASCO - they abandoned Day 0.

Kian, please at least confirm before you shoot it out. Responsible journalism, please.
kianganz 5 Apr 2019, 10:51
+2 -1
Please do read the article I linked to, which is from 2017, after JSA had decided to try out campus recruitments for the first time ever. Quoting:

"The campus recruitment process has turned into quite a circus these days,” commented JSA co-managing partner Dina Wadia. “We took a call that we would recruit primarily through our internship program as that allows us to assess the students, their abilities and how they fit into our culture in a far more effective way,” she added.

No doubt their reason not to attend may in part have had to do with the 'circus' competition in starting salaries, where they may be a bit lower, but I do also believe their reasoning that they've had good success with their internship programme.

Why?

1. NLU grads ain't necessarily all that.
2. Lots of firms that recruit heavily from campus on Day Zero end up losing a large chunk of them after a few years, which costs quite a bit of money.
3. Can you really judge whether someone will make a good associate (or future partner?) from a 30 minute interview on campus?
Prejudice 5 Apr 2019, 11:51
+1 -1
Kian seems to be on to support JSA and hate Luthra. Because JSA replies to your fast?
kianganz 5 Apr 2019, 11:57
+1 -0
Hate is definitely the wrong word to use, but in part what you say does play a role in PR and journalism: it's actually possible to defend JSA because they have generally been very transparent shared information - such as about their choice to ditch Day Zeros - which makes it much easier to defend :)

On the other hand, except for a few puff piece interviews Luthra has given, there is very little information about Luthra in the public domain that would allow anyone from outside the firm to jump to its defence.
No Kian 5 Apr 2019, 15:37
+1 -1
You don’t have to believe all what they say. The real reason why JSA has ditched day 0 is because they can’t afford it. The whole JSA knows this.
Fiasco 5 Apr 2019, 11:53
+1 -2
JSA pays substantially less. Good talent rejects the low salaries. Long story in short.
Not bit lower Kian 5 Apr 2019, 11:55
+2 -2
Not bit lower, Kian. ‘Substantially’ low start salaries at JSA.. on par with tier 2.

Of course, the camouflage with the so/called bill sharing system, which youngsters never really get.
No? 5 Apr 2019, 12:08
+1 -2
I was in NLS in 2016, albeit not as a P com member. The two (not three if i recall, I could be wrong) students who were selected were offered a "permanent intern" (ridiculous name) post at JSA hence why they rejected - nothing to do with payscale. I do remember one chap who had been offered JSA then went to Khaitan instead based on payscale because at A0 level, Khaitan pays nearly double but JSA catches up within 6 months when revenue sharing starts.
Permanent Interns 5 Apr 2019, 17:08
+2 -1
Permanent interns get around 50k at JSA - post which they get around 95k after 6-8 months (which is again very less). Basically, start at a very low level.

Kian doesn't know all of this at JSA. He likes to believes whatever is told to him by JSA PR team. :)
Quick reply 5 Apr 2019, 10:38
+1 -0
NLS/NLU-D/NUJS in 2014, 2015, 2016 - for sure. Can say this with surety. Ask NLU-Delhi batch of 2016. They'll tell how they rejected all the 3 offers.
Ex SAM/ CAM 5 Apr 2019, 06:26
+2 -1
Exactly what I meant. Overall yearly rem. exceeds atleast SAM, CAM & LL.
True 4 Apr 2019, 19:05
+0 -0
It’s true.
A2 4 Apr 2019, 08:32
+2 -4
Filling in blobs in SHAs is what corp law firms do.. totally agree! I am currently doing that..
7 PQE 4 Apr 2019, 08:46
+8 -1
Hate to admit it - but whatever has been said about corp law firms is, more or less, true. My lunch went bad, thinking as to where I am stuck in. Too late to change now, though. :(

Though don't have family backing for litigation - I should have done an MBA. These MBA smugs dictate commercials - and we, most of the times, work around to adjust them. It sucks to be stuck.
Sad but true 7 Apr 2019, 05:10
+0 -0
Sorry bro. Feeel thy pain
Guest 4 Apr 2019, 08:46
+1 -0
lol
Corp 4 Apr 2019, 08:49
+5 -1
Gopal Sankar - or some retained partner of some law firm? Who's more famous? Decide for yourself. :)
Guest 5 Apr 2019, 06:02
+3 -0
You are comparing one of the best in the litigation business, so it's only fair you compare him with one of the best in law firms, not just any random partner. And since when is fame a measurement of quality work? Only glory hogs think like that. How many people know of the stellar work that some lawyers have been doing at the grassroot level in Chattisgarh? Does that mean their work is any less important that what Gopal has been doing?
Best 5 Apr 2019, 10:43
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Aren't retained partners in Big 6 one of the best in their business? Yes, you said it right. They aren't.
Satisfied client 4 Apr 2019, 10:55
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Congratulations, Yajas. Truly well deserved.
Impressed Sardar 4 Apr 2019, 11:05
+2 -2
Congrats Sherill! She’s a brilliant lawyer.
Aspiring big6 lawyer 4 Apr 2019, 11:16
+2 -1
Congratulations Sherill! We miss you in Indus
Big 6 4 Apr 2019, 11:20
+1 -0
Is Indus Big 6 ?
Law School 4 Apr 2019, 14:13
+2 -3
The Big 6 consists of SAM, CAM, AZB, L&L, Khaitan and Trilegal
Unfair 4 Apr 2019, 14:36
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A tad bit unfair, considering that this post is about JSA. What do you think JSA’s rank be.
Really? 8 Apr 2019, 11:27
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I thought this (Big 6) was an old (pre 2014-15) phrase, i.e. AMSS (SAM+CAM), Trilegal, KCO, L&L, AZB and JSA. Correct me if I am wrong.
kianganz 8 Apr 2019, 11:32
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Sorry, you're right of course. That should have been Big 7.

Though, does anyone remember the conspiracy theorists who speculated that CAM-SAM was a ploy to create a bigger firm that would merge again in a few years? But who knows, stranger things have happened in Indian BigLaw ;)
Lit 4 Apr 2019, 11:31
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If you want a comfortable - but monotonous, boring life - choose corp.

If you want a challenging - yet, more rewarding life - choose lit. Hiccups initially, but truly rewarding. You get the feel. No ceiling for success - if you persist and make it big.
Guest 4 Apr 2019, 12:32
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Again people trying to paint the picture of litigation as a bastion of glory. It isn't. Some make it big, earn money and fame. Some don't get either, but still help people at grassroot level and gets the satisfaction. Majority still engage in drudgery, frustration and are surrounded by mediocrity, just like most other professions. If you want to consider popular opinion about litigators, why don't you ask clients? How many do you think would have a good word to say about lawyers they have gone to? Even the ones who got wins for them?
Right 4 Apr 2019, 16:10
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Just read up above comments on lit v. corp. True, that corp is more rewarding, initially. But yeah - only initially.

But lit folks who go independent (and of course, who plays their cards well - that's a given) end up going far ahead in the longer run.

If you want to play a big game - lit is the way. Of course, initial hurdles are there. But then, you gotta strong to emerge a bigger winner.
JSA pays really less 4 Apr 2019, 16:13
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As a member of Recruitment Committee of top 3 law schools - can confirm that JSA offers one of the lowest retainer amount. A major reason, why people don't accept their offers and the Partners end up returning empty handed.

I have my doubts, as to whether they can actually be termed as one of Big 6 - given the huge difference between what they offer and what CAM/AZB (and others) offer!
JSA insider 4 Apr 2019, 19:32
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True. But that is only because freshers do not get bill sharing. Once they start getting 8 percent of everything they bill which is recovered, it more than makes up. Additionally, it is a much nicer work environment.
Guest 5 Apr 2019, 04:47
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Less money for much nicer environment? Social service?
No 5 Apr 2019, 05:15
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This bill sharing stuff is HIGHLY exaggerated. Most of the times, the partners usurp all the sharing and they play with our timesheets - with youngsters getting not much of the pie.
kianganz 5 Apr 2019, 05:33
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If true, that sounds like you're padding your bills or are really slow at your work and they don't want to pass that on to clients ;)
Logical 5 Apr 2019, 06:55
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Juniors can't be billed at actuals because no client will pay 6hours x blended rate hourly fee for a research query or contract mark-up. I've personally put in 42 hours into SPAs and had them slashed to 6-7 at most. Sure, I'd love to be paid for all 42 but you've gotta be realistic. At any rate the bill share at the the very least matches up to retainer amount, so no complaints.
Vetrangan 12 Apr 2019, 11:29
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42 hours into an SPA? you wrote a thesis or drafted a document?
RC Mem 5 Apr 2019, 04:42
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If you were actually any sort of RC member you'd know that JSA hasn't done campus placement for the better part of the last decade. AZB and JSA actually start off with a somewhat similar pay package.
True JSA pays less 5 Apr 2019, 05:10
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That was a good joke. AZB and JSA pay same? What smokin'? Please tell the stuff.

There is atleast a difference of about 30-40% in AZB/CAM/SAM and JSA salaries. JSA actually pays much less.


JSA hasn't done campus placement for better part of last decade? Ask the Equity partners who go and come back without an offer accepted. To lessen the embarrassment, they have opted out. Since of course, they can't pay as much. After all..to what extent 'good work environment' can work?
Intern-al 5 Apr 2019, 08:34
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JSA has a formalised intern absorption framework in place, they don't need placement drives.
Haha 5 Apr 2019, 10:32
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Yes - they have it. Because - most of the DU interns settle for what they are offered, which is very less.

JSA can't afford Day 0 top law school placements. EVERYBODY knows this.
DU and JSA 5 Apr 2019, 05:11
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Just have a look around in JSA. How many freshers come from top national law schools? Most are DU stuff.
PQE 2 4 Apr 2019, 16:18
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Okay, I am sitting here, filling out blobs in SHA and SPAs. What the hell am I doing with my life?

Yeah, corporate law sounds cool - but it isn't.
Guest 4 Apr 2019, 16:58
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If you'd rather sit in your own chamber and make false claims in contested divorce matters, or want people to stop playing PubG or ban tick-tock videos instead, who's stopping you?
Stay Classy 4 Apr 2019, 17:08
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http://youtu.be/FONN-0uoTHI
Rupee 4 Apr 2019, 19:23
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These comments are very entertaining. Probably the only entertainment meted out to law firm folks. Most of these partners are doing incorporation of companies rather than any actual corporate law. Good luck for the one at least fillings blobs in the SHA and not an incorporation checklist. Will the guilty partner making these incorporation checklists please stand up.
-- 5 Apr 2019, 04:40
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Stop, you're embarrassing yourself.
Entertaining 5 Apr 2019, 05:13
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It's entertainment - but mostly true. Ok, have another SHA to make (or tweak). Such challenging stuff, I do.
Please do advise! 5 Apr 2019, 06:20
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Hello kind people out here!

Really need your valuable suggestions regarding my career.

I graduated from one of the top NLUs, and currently work in a tier 1 firm (3 years PQE). I am finding it monotonous, but not considering litigation (can't afford 15k per month at this stage).

I am considering MBA from ISB (assuming that I will get through).

What do you suggest? I feel I am ambitious and don't want to get stuck in a monotonous cabin life.

Please do give your inputs!

Thanks.
Congrats 5 Apr 2019, 10:33
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Congrats on realising this. Most don't realise until faced with mid-life crisis. Go for ISB.

Atleast in management, you take strategic decisions, unlike what you do in corp law [filling in blobs or getting dictation from top management bosses]
Judwa 8 Apr 2019, 11:45
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Bhai! Tum kon ho? I have exact same aspirations (including ISB) and background (with one diff. - I am 6 yrs PQE).

My aspirations got a boost when I read about this guy from RGNUL who cleared ISB while in clg. - Sanchit Aggarwal. Guess you would have already read about him.
From JSA 5 Apr 2019, 06:36
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Congrats to all promottees! Special mention to Ronak Ajmera. Best amongst all partner promotees.
5000 ka bail 5 Apr 2019, 13:14
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Most of the litigators commenting against law firms are those who couldn't manage to get placed or whose colleges couldn't attract law firms.

I personally know people who "preferred" to litigate after they couldn't get a job.
Bleh 5 Apr 2019, 15:33
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Most of these are those have worked in law firms - and left after they refused to be part of filling in blobs business. Top law school graduates - who are even a bit enterprising - would prefer a bit challenging role. Filling in blobs is too boring a job to for their entire lives.

Just see the trend - they leave because they don’t want to do this demeaning job. I, personally, know a lot of batchmates from NALSAR who have left corp firms - to take up litigation. And they are truly loving it.
Guest 5 Apr 2019, 16:28
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So clearly fame isn't the only criterion, because I am yet to hear of any famous litigator from NALSAR. Not even those who've quit law firms.
Hain? 5 Apr 2019, 15:35
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5000 mein bail? Kitna janta hai tu litigation ke baare mein? Proud of you.
Guest 5 Apr 2019, 17:27
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Congrats Rajat!! Well deserved!
LIT or No LIT 6 Apr 2019, 07:13
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Have been reading the comments and more than anything , I am amused at both the lack of respect that people have for others and the immaturity of many of the comments.

Let's put this is perspective, whether it is a contentious practice or a non-contentious practice, at the end of day, a true lawyer has to build a practice.

So even if you do corporate work, you still have to build a practice which entails, amongst other things, building a book of business , building a network of contacts , being engaged with the network constantly , executing work , team managment etc.

Knowing the law, opining on the law, drafting documents, negotiating transactions, strategizing etc. are pre-requistes.

Corporate practice atleast at partner level is not about filling blobs or placeholders and anyone saying that is just delusional, it is about building your profile/your firms profile and billing.

All this again is done on the basis of sheer hard work, basis of knowledge sharing, networking, reading, stratetigizing, connecting people etc.
Not really 7 Apr 2019, 11:32
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The lit practice - if successful - does not revolve around the same circles. At the same time, after you have done blobbing business all your entire youth - and are finally elevated to a retained partner, you STILL have to do the same old things. It's not very often that you are faced with a challenging aspect of law.