Khaitan requests people-friendly WFH policies with best intentions but can it work without teeth? Haigreve thinks it can

Khaitan rolls out new humane guidelines: But are they compatible with hard work and high profits?
Khaitan rolls out new humane guidelines: But are they compatible with hard work and high profits?

Khaitan & Co has internally rolled out a set of guidelines to improve staff and fee-earners’ well-being as the pandemic has caused turnovers and workloads to grow, while traditional physical office support networks and the ability to switch off have largely disappeared for many.

The principles, entitled “people well-being framework” in a document circulated internally by Khaitan director of human resources, Amar Sinhji, includes solid guidelines and pointers on how life in a law firm can be less stressful.

The document has been shared with us by the firm and the text is reproduced in full at the end of this article below.

The framework includes provisions for:

  • special 30 days of sick leave (in addition to usual sick leave) for when staffers or their family fall ill due to Covid-19 and “related complications”;
  • over and above that, any staff or fee-earner could request “wellness leave” for a period decided by HR and team leaders if the staffer were experiencing “mental health, burnout, anxiety, chronic stress or similar ailments”;
  • if someone works “extended hours for a prolonged periods”, partners are “expected to grant recuperation leave” of “two to three days” to fee-earners once a deal has ended or “critical milestones” were reached;
  • provision for weekly “switch-off periods” of at least 24 hours on Saturdays or Sunday to allow for “uninterrupted personal time” (but “depending on practice needs”). There would not be an expectation to respond to emails or calls “unless absolutely urgent”. This policy would initially only be applicable until the end of June 2021 for now;
  • partners were recommended to ensure workloads and timelines for clients would be “reasonable” and could be managed during the week. From 8pm on Fridays to Mondays 8am (i.e., the weekend) the framework recommended that emails and calls should be reduced;
  • the framework recommends that no one should call anyone else in the firm “without prior notice (ideally by email or message)” unless there was an “urgent client situation”;
  • team leaders were encouraged to have “weekly or frequent social catch-up calls” with teams.

All sounds great but…

The policy might seem like plain common sense on how to treat colleagues sensibly but that’s not a given in the corporate legal industry, necessarily (as also reflected in several recent LI reader discussions, including on how firms are dealing with Covid, and an unverified thread on Khaitan and a possible response).

Given that, the bigger question to then ask is: it looks great on paper, but will senior, junior partners and fee-earners - including senior associates - actually keep to the spirit of the policy.

After all, billings are still king and there will always be pressure on teams to generate maximum turnover on short timelines.

In other words, does the policy have any teeth?

“Whether our People Well-Being policy has ‘teeth or not’ will be seen by the spirit in which it is actually implemented,” said Sinhji. “Such initiatives can never be mandated for strict implementation. And we have enough faith in the maturity of our Partners to ensure implementation of this framework in the spirit in which it is meant to be.”

“There could be a couple of deviants but that happens with all policies,” he added, noting that the policy had “buy-in from all partners”, to whom it was first presented and discussed with, they gave input on and only then was it rolled out for implementation.

Partner buy in: Leading from the top?

When asked, the firm’s de facto (but not literal) senior-cum-managing partner Haigreve Khaitan told us that “you have to start at the top”, “set a certain culture and get-buy in” in order for the framework to actually work.

“This applies universally and this is intended really to be followed,” Khaitan said. “Nothing is perfect in this world but if we get 75%, 80% [compliance] I think we would go a long way.”

People would have to “set the culture”, which should be achievable because “we like to work with people, who are not only great mentors and teachers but also nice human beings who will look at this and accommodate”, according to Khaitan.

So what was he personally doing to set such culture?

“From my perspective, I will follow this policy to a T,” he said. “I can tell you when i call people, as we are speaking now, I would never call you randomly, I would always message you and check that you are free and want to speak and then speak with you, unless if there’s a fire.”

“Maybe 1 in 100 times I would pick up the phone and call you,” he added. “I would follow that across the board when calling partner, junior or secretary, I would follow that and respect that. If there’s an absolute urgency we stretch it out but everyone in the firm knows that’s my style and we follow it.”

Clients are a different breed?

Some associates and partners might reasonably say that all this is more easily said than done if you have a client decide to call you 11pm on a Friday shouting at you that they need some document urgently turned around by EoB (end of ‘business’) on Saturday.

“This rule doesn’t apply to clients, it’s all internal,” admitted Khaitan. “In all of this we are not slowing down vis-a-vis our clients, whether in terms of delivery timelines, execution capabilities. That is not what is intended what is intended, we are intending a better working environment.”

That said, he added that there was also “no point in agreeing to unachievable deadlines with clients and then failing and giving an inferior product”.

If there was very high client pressure for instance, “we’ll cover for each other”, he said. “If there’s a lawyer who has a Saturday off, we’ll make sure there’s an auto-message, I’m off for today, please call so-and-so, or please email so-and-so, and the other lawyer on the project will cover up.”

“We are all understanding, intelligent lawyers,” noted Khaitan. “Let’s say there’s a project to be done and signed over the weekend: of course we’ll stretch, so there will be exceptions, all of these policies have these carve outs but this is the general policy.”

“On another note, you don’t want to have a firm or organisation of unhappy people every day, you can’t deliver good work if you have unhappy people.”

More work and overwork?

Again, this all sounds well and good, but what to do if there are simply not enough hands on deck to be able to handle all the work coming in and there simply are not enough hours in the day?

In March, for instance, the tragic death of young Khaitan associate Devansh Srivastava was in some messages on social media rumoured to have been related to work stress.

Khaitan said that the policy was not a reaction to Srivastava’s death, which had not been caused by specific issues of work-life balance but an underlying health issue.

“He was working from home, family was with him and we were in constant touch with the family,” said Khaitan. “We lost him and another 50-year-old lawyer, again a very nice person, [11] days ago, but those instances are nothing to do with this policy,” he explained.

However, by all accounts it is not possible to deny that the amount of work has increased.

We asked whether Khaitan too had a record year of turnovers (as rumoured of many other of the top corporate firms during the pandemic, such as Trilegal that had posted “exceptional” figures over the 2020-21 financial year).

“That is correct,” Khaitan confirmed but claimed that hiring of fee-earners had increased sufficiently to bear that additional load, and furthermore due to the use of technology things had become “a lot more efficient during these times”.

From an HR perspective too, systems would be put in place in order to make it easier to monitor compliance at different levels with the policy (despite the lack of teeth).

Sinhji said that those making complaints or extraordinary leave requests under the new policy would “approach partners directly”, and this would then be captured in a computer system. “We will have to make changes in the back end of our HRIS [human resources information system] to capture all such requests and update individual leave records.”

But even with best laid plans, as acknowledged by Sinhji and Khaitan, ultimately this is not purely an HR or technical issue, but will boil down to people and culture and leading by example.

From that perspective, it appears that Khaitan has laid out the plans as well as can be in the circumstances, at least for now.

Khaitan’s full well-being framework

PEOPLE WELL-BEING FRAMEWORK

The Firm values its people and their continued well-being is paramount to its ethos and long-term success.

The ongoing pandemic has resulted in tremendous hardship and stress being experienced by each one of us. With the second wave of the pandemic and resultant prolonged WfH measures, many of us are experiencing burn out, exhaustion and other forms of mental / physical distress.

In wake of this crisis and with the long-term wellness of its members in mind, the following policy framework is being implemented with immediate effect:

Special Sick Leave

1. A member can avail of Special Sick Leave for COVID-19, for a period of up to 2 weeks, if such member or her / his immediate family has contracted COVID-19 or related complications.

2. This (COVID-19 leave) will be treated as “Special Sick Leave” and will be in addition to the normal annual entitlement of 30 days of leave.

3. Immediate family will include all family members residing in the same house or where a member is required to travel to look after her / his parents or the immediate family in another city.

4. COVID-19 Leave will be effective from 1 January 2021 and will be in force until further advice.

Modified Recuperation Leave

1. Partners are expected to grant Recuperation Leave of 2 to 3 days to a fee-earner after end of a critical milestone on a matter or a transaction, where she / he has worked extended hours for a prolonged period.

2. Rotating fee-earners across demanding clients and matters is also recommended to allow for some ease up in workload and pressure.

Switch-Off Period

1. As extended WfH continues, the lines between workday and end of workday, weekdays and weekends have blurred.

2. To provide some sense of boundary, it is critical that each member respects the weekends and as far as possible, end of day timings, as personal time.

3. Client engagement and management: It is recommended that the workload should be managed such that it is limited to critical or urgent work during weekends. Partners should make sure that work is taken on and implemented in a manner that the timelines for client deliverables are reasonable, realistic and managed during the week. If required, partners should have an amicable conversation with their clients to set reasonable timelines or seek extensions where required or possible.

4. Switch-off Period: Depending on practice needs, each practice will be required to schedule a weekly Switch-off Period of 24 hours, either on a Saturday or Sunday, to allow uninterrupted personal time. During the Switch-off Period, members will not be expected to respond to emails or calls, unless absolutely urgent.

5. Reduced Emails and Calls: It is also recommended that members should reduce emails and calls during the weekends, starting 8:00 pm on Friday till 8:00 am on Monday.

6. Switch-off Periods will come into immediate effect and will be applicable initially till end of June 2021.

Wellness Leave

1. Any member who is experiencing mental health, burnout, anxiety, chronic stress or similar ailments, can request for Wellness Leave from their Team Leader(s) and Human Resources.

2. Period for the Wellness Leave for such member will be determined basis discussions between the Regional / Cluster HR Head and the concerned Team Leader(s), basis the need of the concerned member.

Recommended Best Practice for Communication

1. MS Teams, WhatsApp and other digital and telecommunication platforms have made it easy to reach anyone instantly. However, it is critical that members, including Partners, appreciate personal time during the course of the workday and otherwise.

2. Partners and members are recommended NOT to call other members, without prior notice (ideally by email or message). Of course, this does not apply in urgent client situations.

3. The Firm reposes trust in its members that they will continue to work in a professional and trustworthy manner, such that needs of the Firm’s clients are met.

Wellness Engagement

1. We are in the process of setting up Small Group Engagement sessions on wellness and work-life balance and all Members are encouraged to join these sessions.

2. Members should also reach out to Human Resources for any specific requirement relating to their individual well-being.

3. In the absence of collegial gatherings in office during WfH (formal / informal), all Team Leaders are encouraged to have weekly or frequent social catch-up calls with their teams.

These sessions will allow for some non-work related conversations and to reinforce a feeling of belongingness in team members and to allow them to share their experiences.

Comments

Exorcist 30 Apr 2021, 18:17
+22 -25
Fantastic interview. Reflects the quality individual Haigreve is. Even if Khaitan can achieve it for few people, it’s a win for at least those.

Measures like this require a mindset change, which policies can’t. Good effort by the firm. At least they seem to be recognising the issue and trying.
SAMMM 1 May 2021, 10:08
+7 -24
SAM takes mental health a lot more seriously than its competitors. All of Khaitan's new policy have already been in place at SAM since the start of the pandemic and the mental health steps (webinars/meditation) are part of a broader initiatives to identify and solve issues. Obviously this is not going to happen overnight, but at least there is a start.
Ab tak chappan 3 May 2021, 20:12
+1 -0
That's just one SAM partner in the last 8 years. People who have joined and left. So I am sure if someone does a fact check, it will be pretty clear, where things stand.

Glad SAM acknowledges the issue and is doing something about it. It's never bout the firm but select people. So if the firm is willing to call it out and effect change as lawyers let's accept it and better it, rather than having a debate on who has been shittier till date.
all-nighter 1 May 2021, 10:10
+4 -12
Fairly certain a meditation session in the evening before an all-nighter is better than an all-nighter without a break in the middle.

Is your problem that you have too much work while many have no work or that you don't think there is value in mental health webinars/meditation breaks?
SAM Okhla All 1 May 2021, 21:12
+18 -1
If you think that hosting mental health webinars is equivalent to taking mental health issues seriously, then you are delusional. SAM has none of these policies. The management at SAM has not evolved at all to take mental health issues seriously. Not to forget, it is now a norm to work 7 days a week. Some partners act as if SAM has done a favor but giving a 10% hike. Why are we made to believe that doing the bare minimum is sufficient. IT IS NOT!
SAMs still better 2 May 2021, 06:37
+6 -9
Maybe SAM isn't taking mental health issues that seriously but in today's environment where firms go advertising the bare minimums like something great ( and some are lies), SAM still a better one.From start of pandemic,their covid response teams been helps getting medicines,tests done etc.They gave some extra covid leave too.Frankly, the webinars can give a headache but at least their WFH model is decently in place,otherwise there are horrifying stories of employees being forced to come to office physically.
Guest 2 May 2021, 08:42
+19 -3
SAM causes the mental health problems of most of its employees. Ever since WFH began, several people have quit even in the pandemic-struck market because of bad treatment and unrealistic expectations.
SAM Okhla All 2 May 2021, 09:52
+7 -6
What is this nonsense relative comparison? Doosra firm kharab hai but SAM kam kharab. Bullshit!
Actuallyyyyy 3 May 2021, 09:41
+4 -3
Actually that's how relative comparison works,what/who's worse or better, less or more,kam ya zyada.
Angrezi Medium 3 May 2021, 19:39
+3 -3
You can't seriously be railing against SAM on an article about KCO, and also complaining about a relative comparison.

FYI, all comparisons are relative, you can only be more or less kharaab than someone else.

SAM isn't perfect (noone is), just better (another comparative and so relative word).

They haven't forced or "encouraged" anyone to come to office since WFH started, and they also had covid leave in place from the first time people were getting Covid, not just the second wave. They also didn't cut salaries. That already puts them above all their closest competitors in terms of not stressing their lawyers out, without even going into the webinars or meditation.

Noone is saying that the webinars are a substitute for a sound mental health policy, but since you're also saying that people at SAM aren't educated about mental health, then they could help, no?
SAM Okhla 4 May 2021, 05:11
+0 -0
Thanks for explaining. But my point was *why exactly are we doing such a comparison*?
Reason? Obvious 4 May 2021, 08:45
+4 -3
Isn't the reason obvious?Comparison being done for finding out which firms still have semblance of humane behaviour surviving in them,so that people can think of leaving their current jobs and hope to land a job at the, even if ever so slightly, better firm.
SAM Okhla All 30 Apr 2021, 18:32
+35 -2
Maybe Shardul Amarchand Mangaldas can take a cue from this and implement something similar (which is actually substantial) instead of hosting USELESS mental health webinars/meditation webinars. Hosting a webinar at 6 pm followed by an all-nighter is not going to fix anything!!!! Not to forget 'attendance will be checked' emails are also sent to make sure that people attend such webinars!! A lot of lawyers KNOW that they are facing mental health issues but it's really important that their superiors (Partners) are trained to understand /spot such issues.
Notgonnahappen 30 Apr 2021, 18:54
+27 -1
Ain't gonna happen, so don't get your hopes up. I honestly don't think folks higher up give a rat's behind about what folks are going through. They're much more interested in their idiotic merger market rankings and fake rankings about having the best work life balance. Total bakwaas if you ask me. Still a better deal than some other firms but not by much.
Merger Market 1 May 2021, 10:13
+2 -6
A better deal than other firms, yet you "don't think folks higher up give a rat's behind about what folks are going through".
Bull 30 Apr 2021, 19:35
+18 -1
Can I have that printed on my 3 ply toilet paper please? Will be of some practical use there at least.
Dragon 21 1 May 2021, 06:47
+8 -1
Bro what firm? There is no firm left. Indus or Veritas will soon become the new Big 7.
Guest 1 May 2021, 11:04
+30 -1
This whole idea is disgusting and nothing but a ploy to fool innocent kids from law school to be enslaved.
L&L 1 May 2021, 03:04
+2 -7
Luthra should adopt similar policies to prevent the exodus happening from the firm. At least the retainers will have something to stay for!
Guest 1 May 2021, 03:44
+52 -1
Let’s be honest here. This whole public roll out of the policy is nothing but a publicity and PR gimmick. Anyone who’s worked in a corporate law firm will know that by definition, no firm can implement these measures. It’s not the fault of any one managing partner but an occupational hazard. What Khaitan (the firm and the concerned individual) needs to do is inculcate basic EQ to some of their proven slave drivers. It’s a question of rotten apples that is billing in crores and the toothless EC pussy footing the entire issue. Ask anyone in the mumbai, Bangalore or Delhi office, and 3 - 4 names will come up and that’s that. But hey, clear communication has never been the foundational strength of Kco.
Neutral 2 May 2021, 02:29
+7 -0
Its the same in other firms too. The more senior or in the middle EPs show decent amount of flexibility & concern but its the majority of the younger partners who are toxic & have no regard for the Associates. Ask anybody working in Trilegal, CAM, Indus, JSA & they'll all tell you the same thing.
Majdoor 1 May 2021, 05:19
+5 -0
Quoting Sam Wilson aka Falcon:
"Everyone's got a gimmick now!"
Enthusiast 1 May 2021, 05:20
+1 -2
These news are trivial which have no significance in the daily lives of lawyers or people, in general except who are directly involved/working here -- in this case, Khaitan.
Darkseid 1 May 2021, 09:02
+31 -1
Slave bondage culture.

Not sure what is being harped about here? Try and avoid calls between 8pm Friday to 8am Monday?

One is supposed to be available between 8am-8pm 5 days a week and then even more for emergencies?

This is sad. Shows the terrible work culture that exists in law firms.

2 week leave for covid? Most people who are getting affected are unable to do anything for at least 3 weeks. Even after that, they have fatigue for a long long time thereafter.

If I take leave for my family, I can't take leave for myself later on?

It is a concession that I should get a message / email before getting a call? Wow!

It is a relief that partners should be accommodating? Wow!!

It is recommended that weekends should be for myself? Did no one even read the dossier? This is utter nonsense. The entire document.

These are things which I remember. I was disgusted by every single statement that I read here.

I dare you to tell me that is how lawyers should work!!

This policy which is 'relaxed' leaves no scope for a life outside law firm. 24 hours uninterrupted personal time on weekends is not a luxury. It is bondage.

Why do people even work in law firms man? Why is money more important than living like a human being?

Shame shame shame!!! Khaitan and every other law firm with similar policies needs to introspect. Is this what life should be all about?
Some sense 1 May 2021, 17:23
+9 -1
Well atleast this will be of respite for some, atleast some newly made partners who try following policies will consider implementing. While most of the things mentioned here are basic human/professional courtesy, unfortunately corporate lawyers and specially Tier-1 lawyers don't think that any of this is necessary.
What is the issue! 1 May 2021, 09:16
+8 -0
Everyone recognizing mental well being of colleagues and team is a welcome step.

However, these policies (which have been set up to overcome such issues and challenges) can only work if the work load itself is reduced and people are allowed time off when they don't have to worry about the client and their expectations. Most of the stress is caused by pressure to adhere to deadlines (which results in people working inordinate hours and weekends (if weekend is a concept to begin with!)), if this pressure can be eased, lot of issues wouldn't arise to begin with. It's a call that every senior must take in terms of how much work can be handled by the team and that law firm heads do not have the entitlement to dictate the work hours.

I agree it is easier said that done, but if the approach is not changed and seniors don't step up to client to manage the expectations, we are only treating the outcome of the problem and not the problem itself.
Guest 1 May 2021, 11:09
+10 -3
You’ll be surprised to know that most of the partners got to know of this 5 mins before it was released to LI. Ye lo inki “partnership”. Poori vanar sena hai bhai.
Amartya 1 May 2021, 09:24
+52 -2
This is a hilarious policy - the rounds of review by partners are evident, that's where all the "subject to urgent work" got added. As a result, its entirely useless, and doesn't change anything (most work required to be done over the weekend is couched as "urgent")

Can just imagine the conversation:
HR: We think we need to roll out a policy that sets out boundaries on work timings, and requirements of the associates. There's a lot of burnout
Equity Partners: We pay them, don't we? They should be so grateful! Mental-health is all rubbish. These millenials are all snowflakes
HR: But we're looking bad - that kid died last year, and people are blaming us
Equity Partners: Nobody cares about some random comments on Legally India. Our clients still want us because we get them quick, cheap results (and they don't notice the quality issues)
HR: But if we don't do this, we'll have to pay them more to show we're better than SAM/Trilegal/etc., who have hiked salaries. This way we can say they have a better life here.
Equity Partners: Oh, okay - you should have led with that then. Fine, we can do it.
Salaried Partners: But these millenials will just throw the policy in our faces when we try and get them to do any work? it's unreasonable to say that they can't be contacted for an entire 24 hours over the weekend, or at night on a weekday, and that they're not required to respond before 8AM on Monday? How will we work like that?
Equity Partners: Sure, maybe you guys can take a look and suggest modifications. Should we change 24 hours over the weekend to 12 hours? Give them one night haha.
Salaried partners: Won't work. Sometimes work has to be done on Saturday night only. Heavens will fall if it happens on Sunday morning, because that's what the client wants, and I couldn't be arsed to do it instead of the associate.
Equity Partners: Client is king (or his money is). Of course if the client asks for something then it must happen immediately. Add that into the policy, that it is subject to all client deliverables being managed
HR: But you could speak to the client and check if it is actually urgent?
Partners: Hahahahaha lol. Sure, add that in as well. We will "check with the client" lolol
Witness 3 May 2021, 10:46
+1 -0
Dude, it's like you were there in the room (or teams meeting or whatever...).
JSA 1 May 2021, 09:54
+0 -5
What about JSA? Aren’t they supposed to be market leaders (at least) in showing well being towards their attorneys?
Guest 1 May 2021, 11:02
+10 -0
Bruh, how do you think the entire 20 something HR team of Khaitan headed by the ByeBye Immortal justifies its salaries? They’ve gotta do some such, hai na.
Old days 1 May 2021, 11:16
+21 -0
Fresher lagte ho. The days of Jyoti are long gone. This week we received three obituary emails and then a sign up option for 25 weeks of corporate law trainings on weekends one after the other. Interspersed with vague EP messages about taking care of mental health. Even with how bad it is in Mumbai and other places right now, JSA leadership has no tact or anything meaningful to say or offer.

There's no time to grieve. Covid positive associates are working on matters as usual with no leaves. JSA of old doesn't exist anymore it's another halwai firm now.
Really JSA? 1 May 2021, 17:27
+4 -6
Lol, is it even a Tier-1 any more?
Old days 3 May 2021, 04:51
+13 -0
Yes that's partly the reason why the work culture at JSA has nosedived over the last half decade. Jyoti never let go of his people and was willing to put pure profits second to good governance. Now it's every EP for himself or herself and many of them are poor administrators who will sell their firstborn for a hourly billing mandate
Shaitan 1 May 2021, 10:03
+29 -0
Congrats on the creative writing exercise, Khaitan HR. Maybe law firm HR types forget that they work with people trained to look through slimy crap like this all the time. Typical fluff put out to counter the negative PR from the death of a human being. In fact why is a purely internal policy decision being put out as a "release" at all? If transparency is so important to Khaitan, where are the latest retainer amount tables and yearly earning data?

A careful reading will show how much nonsense is jam packed into this. Let me take a quick jab:

1. Where are the reduced targets? For all this verbosity about preventing burnout, why is there no actual addressing of the problem? We have had two straight years of a relentless pandemic. Why are billing targets the same as always then?

2. Who is enforcing all of this? Will Khaitan monitor the ERP systems to make sure that if a Resource has billed over X hours in a month, they've been given the mandated 3 days off?

3. Spare me the wellness leave nonsense. I have to speak to a team leader and HR, who will then speak to the cluster head before giving me approval? I'll need two extra days in therapy to deal with the fallout of that.

For law firm partners creeping around the comments sections to show screenshots to your other EP buddies (yes we know you do it, you're not fooling anyone), do something substantive. Just for example, leaves are recorded with painstaking precision. List out all attorneys who took less than half their leaves, i.e., 15 days or less, and penalise their partners. Identify partners with the highest attrition rates and pull them up. Do something meaningful for a change. Until then, Indian law firm work culture will continue to be what it is today and the next death will also be on your hands.
Better firm 1 May 2021, 10:08
+1 -15
Singh and Associates has the best working culture and policies. Doesn’t give any mental pressure.
Lol 1 May 2021, 11:23
+24 -2
Weekly switch off - you don't call me on sunday only in May? Outrightly recognising that if it wasn't for covid, we're not allowed to switch off? Giving it off to us like it's a gift, it's not. It's something you're supposed to give with or without the pandemic. Also, it's Friday today don't work on the weekend but why don't you send this to me on Monday morning first half! Big joke.
! 1 May 2021, 14:05
+4 -3
no words.
to little too late.
if the management truly intended to implement this, they would not embarrass themselves with such a memo.
it is a fine firm that has taken great strides but the will to evolve is missing
Disagree 1 May 2021, 15:00
+8 -3
Thank God Khaitan is leading such a policy even just as a paper tiger.It will do a world to lawyers at even other firms where we associates are looked at as disposables.This policy puts some pressure on all these immortal firms. Overworked and underpaid when we catch a breathing weekend ,don't dump ridiculous ideas of old big boss like sangeets ,book readings and what not on us.We will do all that when we reach that age.
Former tier 1 1 May 2021, 18:06
+25 -0
The fact that they had to come out with an emergency policy to have switch off periods on Saturdays and Sundays speaks a lot about the toxic culture. Didn't they know people will notice this? May be they don't care
MexicanCorona 2 May 2021, 07:41
+1 -1
What about NDA and Banglur Laa Shops?
LaaShop 2 May 2021, 11:09
+9 -1
Laa Shops are closed due to lackdown in Banglur. They are not essential.
Papermache 2 May 2021, 15:42
+18 -1
This just means partners will push you more during the week. And when shit isn’t done by the weekend, they will say you could’ve been more efficient during the week. I dare this policy to call out the fake deadlines that partners make up for the lack of a hobby.
Surprised 3 May 2021, 06:01
+11 -16
I'm just surprised at the number of people raising issues with corporate work culture and references to slavery etc. Why is any of this a surprise to law students? I graduated almost 20 years ago and I know that my classmates and I were all aware of what we were signing up for. Yes, there was the expectation of having a relaxed time on weekends, but as time progressed that expectation became lesser and lesser. Let's not kid ourselves -

(i) most graduates from law schools know what work culture at the top firms is going to be like - they've done internships at the places they're joining or similar firms so they're expected to know.

(ii) no one else is going to pay you CTCs of 13-16 lakhs to join as a fresher who knows very little - that is the USP of the top tier of firms and the reason their jobs are attractive. That is the trade off. 9-6 jobs at 50k are also available - but a lot of students don't want that.

(iii) this is not a problem confined to Indian law firms - the top echelon of law firms and investment banks across the world (think Kirkland, Skadden, Goldman Sachs, Credit Suisse etc) have crazy work hours and expectations on folks being available round the clock - does this lead to burnout? Of course it does. Do the people joining these places not know about it? Of course they do.

(iv) no one is forcing you to do this - there are smaller law firms folks can join, litigation work they can take up and multiple in house opportunities now available. This is not slavery - attitudes of seniors could certainly be changed for the better but people are free to leave if they don't think a place is right for them. And a lot of them do end up leaving realizing this is not the life they wanted. At least a lot of them have considerable savings (compared to their peers in other sectors) because salaries are high.

Is there a duty on these firms to make things better - they should because attrition is expensive for them. What can they do? The only practical solutions - Hire more to create more bandwidth and push back on irrational timelines set by clients.

But can this work? Hiring more means less profitability which means lesser increments. Half the comments and threads on this website are about people crying about small increments of 10% or about small bonuses (which are a few lakhs in the top tier firms). You think people are happy with lesser pay year on year? It's easy to say yes but more than half the folks who move jobs do it for better pay. So I'm not sure this necessarily works out for law firms.

Pushing back clients? Sure that can work if the industry is united on that front. Here you have Khaitan push back a client and they'll go into the arms of SAM who'll say we'll give you that round the clock service. If SAM doesn't do it, CAM will. And so on. That's the nature of the market - Indians are competitive and do not have any respect for their own time. So there will always be an alternative available for pushy clients and since no one wants to lose business, very few partners will push back.

Which is why we're left with firms doing lip service by putting out such policies. They know there is a problem but there is only so far they can go to remedy it. So the hours will continue and so will burn out. But unless the top tier of firms comes together to decide that working on the weekends should be anathema and that none of them will do it so all of them can give their associates time off, I can't see this working. Not at large scale anyway. But then hell may well freeze over before that.
Guest 3 May 2021, 07:11
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Law schools pamper and pander a lot to students these days than they used to 15 years back. Some of it is good, some not so. Hence they remain unprepared for the actual rigor.
Guest 3 May 2021, 11:18
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Were you writing an essay to defend capitalism as a necessary evil where it's fine to choose profits over people always? Remember that subject called human rights?
Typo 4 May 2021, 06:46
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Kian - a correction, you start by saying 30 day COVID leave, but the e-mail below clearly says two weeks in addition to the *existing 30 day entitlement*
Typo interpretation 4 May 2021, 07:28
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Covid leave can be taken twice. Self as well as family member. 2 weeks. 28 days.