Luthra homegrown IBC + fin partner Avinash Subramanian joins AZB Mumbai • 7th partner exit during spat

Avinash Subramanian moves to AZB Mumbai from Luthra
Avinash Subramanian moves to AZB Mumbai from Luthra

AZB & Partners has hired L&L Partners Mumbai-based partner Avinash Subramanian as a partner in its restructuring, IBC and structured finance practice in Mumbai.

He is a 2012 NLSIU Bangalore graduate who had joined L&L out of college and became a partner at L&L in 2020.

He’s the latest of many homegrown L&L partners to defect from the firm during the spat between the co-founders, which despite the Delhi high court judgment ordering an agreed split has not ended but is now to start in earnest.

Co-founder Mohit Saraf has announced he would start his own firm, while the firm’s original namesake, Rajiv Luthra, would continue with the L&L brand.

Competition for the talent that is left is bound to be fierce.

The tally of exits during the dispute:

Avinash SubramanianWork history From: Jun 2021: Partner, AZB & PartnersFull-time (Mumbai) Apr 2020 - Jun 2021: Partner, L&L Partners (Mumbai) Apr 2018 - Apr 2020: Managing Associate, L&L Partners Apr 2016 - Mar 2018: Senior Associate, L&L Partners (Mumbai) Aug 2012 - Mar 2016: Associate, L&L PartnersEducation 2007 - 2012: National Law School of India University, B.A. LL.B. (Hons), Law

Comments

Bullseye 14 Jun 2021, 05:39
+21 -20
Have worked opposite him. Good guy, Good hire for AZB. Although what AZB actually needs in their IBC practice are 3-6 years PQE lawyers and a solid partner who has respect in the market as the second-in-command of Mr B (I am thinking of Cyril/LV- DJ and Shardul- Anoop combinations). The current line-up at AZB even with Avinash, with all due respect, is not really cutting it.
Hg 14 Jun 2021, 14:03
+11 -20
IBC CAM is a killer team. LV - GG - DJ - Das - Madhav are all stellar practitioners. ID, Animesh, Spandan complement on the disputes side.
Also 16 Jun 2021, 11:34
+8 -6
Also Lakshmi, Uday and Richa - each of them are stellar.
Also also 17 Jun 2021, 06:00
+9 -5
Also shripath ji, avishkar, pushpita
Guest 23 Jun 2021, 07:29
+4 -2
When is the luthra split finally happening? It's been a long time and we need clarity for batch of 2022 who have done callbacks and are awaiting recruitment
a3 23 Jun 2021, 18:11
+2 -0
the associates don't know anything yet and you think the management cares about recruitment for next year right now?
Guest 24 Jun 2021, 05:32
+1 -2
Why do you not know? You have been given a choice already. Choose either one or something completely else and continue working. What's there to know? What's this lashing out on kids man? Calm down.
a3 24 Jun 2021, 14:36
+1 -0
Don't assume gender. Seems like you're getting a good raise
Ok 14 Jun 2021, 05:43
+42 -6
This is more of a loss to MS' new firm rather than a loss to L&L. :P
Idiot 14 Jun 2021, 10:46
+6 -26
How can it be a loss to MS ka firm and not a loss to luthra and luthra ? Eventually he has left both Na ? Just shows the idiotic arrogance of RL camp.
Mentos 14 Jun 2021, 18:55
+20 -0
Bhai, mentos khao aur dimag ki batti jalao.
GoGone 14 Jun 2021, 06:52
+21 -0
NDA and LoL are competing
Kaun Gaya 14 Jun 2021, 08:32
+22 -0
LoL, every few days someone is leaving both
Digital June 14 Jun 2021, 09:23
+30 -1
Everyone will go.

Tum Kya Lekar Aaye the
Tum Kya Lekar jaoge
Organize karo Digital June Conference
Kaam Kahan se Laoge
Leader 14 Jun 2021, 17:11
+8 -0
Who is Digital Conference Leader?
Yoga se hoga 15 Jun 2021, 08:03
+8 -0
External consultant!!! the joke is on yoga!

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Kian bro 14 Jun 2021, 06:55
+15 -0
Pls get us an update on the split. It’s been a week since the money was paid off to MS as per court order. Which partner is going where ? By when will the names be out ?
BabaLall 15 Jun 2021, 14:08
+2 -0
Baby Lall Devi
Good hire for AZB. 14 Jun 2021, 06:55
+9 -21
Good hire for AZB.Thwy have really upped their game in the pandemic time in terms of market position.
BadFire 1 Jul 2021, 19:36
+3 -2
Oh yes! AZB has upped their game and now they don’t give any flying fork in firing people!!!
Associate 14 Jun 2021, 06:59
+4 -1
CORRECTION @KIAN - Apurva Jayant joined JSA after leaving Luthra
Guest 14 Jun 2021, 07:11
+40 -0
Chalo, good that another Luthra related article has been published by Legally India. Ek do din ka time pass should be good now based on comments.
Guest 14 Jun 2021, 07:13
+14 -0
True blue loyalist are also moving out. Signs of cracks in the new outfit already?
Heard 14 Jun 2021, 08:05
+14 -0
RLuthra has hired ex Trilegal CEO ? Can someone confirm ?
All the best 14 Jun 2021, 08:44
+18 -4
Congrats, Avinash and great decision.
Pro Bono Advice 14 Jun 2021, 10:20
+25 -12
Any sensible lawyer who cares about her/his career should jump Luthra right now! The music will stop playing soon.
No 14 Jun 2021, 14:09
+1 -4
Only time will say.
Finding Happiness 14 Jun 2021, 16:34
+44 -7
There is a new trend in Lu and Lu. Looking for the happiness quotient. The MP and his sidekick have announced a seminar on Happiness/Emotional Quotient. Dates are yet to come!
Dear benevolent dictator, we will be happy if you please pay our bonus. You have not even paid any increment for 2020-21, others have. We have weathered a year of pandemic and two of you fighting and destroying the firm we also worked to build. Now you have divided the rewards between you and your formerly favourite partner leaving us counsels without a proper place to work. The least you can do is pay us our bonuses to ease the pain.
Clearly you have no idea how the appraisals were done, either last year or the years before. Its not that you will learn and do the appraisals post this month or the next or anytime later. Why don't act on the benevolent part and not the dictator for once give us our due and we will figure out how to find happiness. You keep announcing things and not acting on anything substantial - employees and lawyers died in the pandemic and nothing was done for them apart from announcing some grand fund - which like other things will not be acted upon. No one asked for Yoga - it was organized perhaps because some friend of the leader had to be accommodated.
Please don't rob hardworking regular lawyers, we have given our best to the firm, the least you should do is give us what is our due. You will still have the money to build your new office etc, for us the bonus matters esp in the present economic situation.
Yes 15 Jun 2021, 04:23
+16 -2
If you pay people well, happiness will come on its own. If you don't pay, nobody will be happy despite you organising conferences/sessions on happiness and well being. People are bound to leave you. All these conferences and all work ONLY if you pay well.
Guest 15 Jun 2021, 10:13
+15 -45
The firm has been a family to us and has always encouraged us to speak openly and transparently. However, what you have written here is very unfortunate and in extremely poor taste. Haven't you cherry picked information and misrepresented it?

Despite the difficult times faced by the firm, including the pandemic – we got a 7% adhoc bonus. This was given before the appraisals were even completed. This may have helped so many ease the burden faced due to the pandemic.

Mr. Luthra has diluted his equity to two of our deserving partners and I am convinced that the plan is to continue.

As a L&L member I am proud to say that the COVID helpline we have, works round-the-clock, helping not just our family members but also our extended families, friends and clients too. I feel proud of the firm we have built together.

In the meanwhile, there have been so many meaningful initiatives the firm has put together for us to deal with mental wellbeing. The most recent, to name a few, are the yoga sessions by a reputed yoga instructor; we also had a webinar with Dr Arvind Kumar, Chairman, Institute of Chest Surgery, Chest Onco Surgery and Lung Transplantation and Co-chairman, Medanta Robotic Institute, Medanta - the Medicity, Gurugram. We had Vesna Jacobs, an accomplished fitness teacher, talk to us about the various breathing techniques and fitness regimes to help both physical and mental wellness.

Mr. Luthra on his personal capacity has started an Education Trust for children of the members of the L&L family who have lost a parent/s to COVID.

I have personally seen pictures of the collapsible prototype rooms the firm is working on to help us work better from home or a remote location.

As a firm we will not break by discourteous write-ups, I am a proud member of the L&L family and I believe we will build an even stronger firm with a stronger culture and values.

I wish you a lot of happiness and contentment.

Best wishes,
A proud L&L family member.
Guest 15 Jun 2021, 12:24
+1 -0
Very interesting.....
LuL 15 Jun 2021, 12:55
+10 -3
Kitta sarcasm...loved it!

But, for the record:

1. 7% ad hoc increment was for previous year. And that was only for associates not the entire firm. Nobody knows when current year's increments and bonus is going to be given. If I was RKL, I would announce a bonanza not just to retain people but also to reward loyalty.

2. Dilution of equity is a sham. Always was, and will be! Those who stay back just need to negotiate good packages, that's it (wohi milega)! Also deserving or not, let's just not talk about those 2 so called equity partners!

3. Covid helpline, education trusts for children of those departed, HR sessions and all are very good initiatives - but these are extraordinary times (more so for the firm currently)...all that brings comfort is MONEY...so, RKL, if you're listening, please give attractive bonuses and increments!

4. Collapsible work-rooms/desks and all is BS. Nobody wants it!

5. L&L Family and all - please stop this nonsense: everybody has seen how the 'family' fights publicly. Only way to salvage - reward loyalty handsomely, make some heavy-hitter hiring. And, yes, RKL - you will have to give equity to those who command it if you want to get lateral heavy-hitters. A 10-12 member tier-less firm is not 'heavy-hitting', so, please...
Thanga 15 Jun 2021, 14:28
+1 -0
Did they not slash bonus payments? Are the lit guys getting salaries? Have they not changed the policy again?
Totally Rakhee 15 Jun 2021, 16:48
+3 -0
Mere Karan Arjun Aayenge
Hum saath saath hain, Karan are Arjun ko koi judda nahi kar sakta

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Guest 16 Jun 2021, 05:25
+1 -0
anyone leaving from lit?
Sherpa 16 Jun 2021, 09:54
+7 -1
Several... from the IBC team, all who felt they were conned by the Senior Partners in the garb of the pandemic.
Lit 17 Jun 2021, 11:26
+3 -0
HSC has notice already and senior partners plan to not give any increments or target based bonuses (which some are entitled to, basis targets met during last year) to anyone in Lit. Senior partners are now trying to concoct stories that they want to see who joins Saraf and they will pay up increments or target based bonuses for last year, only to those who stick around. Just another excuse to not pay up.
Liti 17 Jun 2021, 16:38
+1 -0
Maybe they are trying to make people stay in anticipation of bonuses, increments etc till HSC notice period gets over and there is complete downfall
Pls clarify 18 Jun 2021, 11:28
+2 -1
HSC has given notice means ? Bobby sir is quitting luthra ?? Or is going with MS ?
Guest 19 Jun 2021, 04:32
+0 -0
The author of 12.2.4.A.2 to clarify but this is impossible that HSC will leave RKL to join MS.
Liti 18 Jun 2021, 03:57
+1 -0
Is there any in principle agreement that they will pay up after Saraf starts his own venture. Not to my knowledge

Is there any timeline within which they will pay up amounts. Not to my knowledge

VS, HSC, SS and RKL have been saying for a while they are considering and will do the needful soon. There is no answer to how soon. It seems like a dilatory tactic
neo-Luthra loyalist 15 Jun 2021, 17:36
+0 -0
Does anyone remember when we got our increments in 2019 or 2018 or 2017 etc. ?
Relevance 17 Jun 2021, 18:03
+0 -0
Why do you ask??? Irrespective of what happened in the past, why wouldn't you release 2020-21 increments even after the FY 2021-22 has started???
Guest 15 Jun 2021, 18:31
+9 -0
Congratulations Kutty! All the best
Frustrated 17 Jun 2021, 15:49
+8 -0
Text book case of 'how to fuck your business and careers of all those who placed them in our hands'...what has happened in the last 1+ year (and is still happening) is just appalling! These guys are only fit to run kiranas...
Titanic 17 Jun 2021, 18:00
+21 -1
This entire fight and split has shown one thing very clearly, Luthra as a firm, has really no vision or clear management.

Ever heard of a firm holding back increments for FY 2020-21 which are to be announced based on the appraisal of FY 2019-20, because the appraisal form for FY 2020-21 has not been completed. My partner told me this and I was like, Listen, never mind my bonus, you should leave this place as quickly as possible. While at it, tell Luthra to get a basic lesson on law firm management.

He tried1 to tell me how I should treat this a minor event in the life of a law firm. I said, buddy, you have messed up your career in shop with no equity in sight, why are you trying to spoil mine. Have you ever heard of a firm asking for applications for equity??? And exactly what was the result of such applications?? It's there for everyone to see. About the results, the less said the better. It was quite evident from the email exchange with MS.

Having worked here from the start of my career, I can tell you, the place is losing its sense by the day. Stupid, employee unfriendly policies are being introduced each day. There is an annoying accountant who is stupidly called a CFO, has no idea what his role is. He wastes lawyers time and would be taken to task by MS for doing that. Now he tell all sorts of stories to Luthra and acts as if he is running the place. Luthra clearly can't get his head around anything but 3X as a means of appraisal because then he can get away without reading the forms and rely on some dashboard and AI. Seriously, he wants to run law firm evaluated by software. Ever heard of this stupidity before??
HSA 20 Jun 2021, 18:02
+1 -0
Hamara naam suna hai?

No increments no bonus. Retainer toh mil raha hai time pe, khush raho
Blackjack 21 Jun 2021, 16:35
+0 -1
As someone who has worked here since my batch joined here, I am shocked to see how a partnership of 26 years broke up in less than a year. But now I want to crowdsource some really insights, I hope LI readers will help.

Thankfully l have not taken sides in the fight between these two and now have to evaluate the two sides.

One a FMP who has put 25 % equity for professionals, but has not clarified how people will be inducted into equity. Last time he asked for applications and less said the better about the equity partners he chose. So what confidence should I have in him.

Another who has put 66% equity for professionals, but has also not clarified how he plans to share it with the professionals. Plus he has clarified that he chooses one are 23 only. But I have been offered a good raise and also most of the people I have worked with over the years are moving to this platform.

Please help, fellow readers.
ZRSBOM 22 Jun 2021, 03:09
+0 -0
I don't trust MS to ever be transparent. I can hold RKL to be negligent.
As I see, if you have a better financial package with MS, then join him since at least immediate financial scene improves.
Do Not Say That 22 Jun 2021, 16:02
Contested
+11 -4
[img]RKL is nepotism unabated. If you are a relative or a family or a friend or a son/daughter of parents in a high position, you have RKL eyes and ears. For him, talent and hard work mean nothing unless you are connected or his family friend. He has stuck to this philosophy even after the latest debacle. This is worrisome for the counsels. All talented and hard-working people, please save yourself heartburn as RKL isn't doing anything for you. Leave the dungeon while you can - too many bats around, including the retired ones.[/img]
Growl 22 Jun 2021, 04:33
+1 -0
You are like that young child of a divorced couple who knows not that living with a foster family could be an option.
Young chap 22 Jun 2021, 11:53
+5 -17
Go with Mohit. He is a serious, no nonsense, hardworking man. You may agree with his views or disagree with his views. But you know he gives his 100% to whatever he does. Fact is he was 99% sole incharge of the Corp practice at the firm for the past ten years if not more. Just go with him.
Guest 22 Jun 2021, 15:06
+18 -0
Yeah, and during the time that he had been in de facto charge, half the rainmakers quit. So probably not that great a leader as some people portray him to be. The decline of Luthra as a firm started when RKL handed over most of the responsibilities to MS and started focusing on the rest of his life.
Right 22 Jun 2021, 15:36
+12 -1
Correct...so what if he throws you under the bus at the earliest available opportunity, so what if he promises you the moon but delivers dust, so what if he doesn't lose an opportunity to play favourites, so what if the guy is so shameless that he discredits all the amazing business opportunities that RKL got him due to which he is sitting on more money than he earned from the firm, so what if he is so happy to see the house burn because he's insured, so what???
Promotion Ka Nag! 21 Jun 2021, 16:48
+7 -0
Any news on appraisals, increments or bonus? I heard Lulu is not planning to give bonus to anyone and also eat up increments? I have now been through 2 appraisal cycles, got promoted and still have not got proper increment. If someone knows, whether equity partner, external consultant, external papaji, miyaji, chawala ji, please tell me. I don't have a Bentley or BMW, but I have a new car and petrol is Rs. 100 plus / liter. Pls help, benevolent dictator. I have started eating chole bhature too.[img]https://media4.giphy.com/media/3oeSABEFqFnTMpOw12/200.gif[/img]
carr 26 Jun 2021, 22:03
Troll
+5 -0
sell the car or soon you will be seen at a pump fuelling the cars
Sunn 23 Jun 2021, 11:49
+2 -2
Does anyone when the Batch of 2021 recruits will be allowed to join Luthra?
KianJi 24 Jun 2021, 22:03
+2 -2
LI has stopped reporting about who is leaving NDA. No time for Love.
The Departures 2 Jul 2021, 09:03
+4 -1
What about the spate of partner and senior departures from AZB? Piyush Misra, Sayak M, Rinki G, Palak V, Pankhuri etc etc. in the last two months?
Thespat 10 Jul 2021, 21:33
+1 -0
And Richa?
Wha? 12 Jul 2021, 08:34
+3 -0
Rinki left?