Luthra Lit retroactively ‘defers’ 15-35% salaries, EPs promise to take home 0

L&L lit is the largest of the big firms to defer fee-earner salaries due to Covid
L&L lit is the largest of the big firms to defer fee-earner salaries due to Covid

L&L Partners’ litigation partnership, which is one of four separate partnerships that the firm operates under one brand name, has effectively cut fee-earner salaries by at least 15% and 35% via deferrals of retainers, which would operate retrospectively from 1 April, according to two sources with knowledge of the measures.

Meanwhile, the five senior partners at the litigation firm have internally said they would not draw any profits from the litigation firm, which consists of more than 100 fee-earners and in which they are the only equity partners.

The deferrals, which will operate with retrospective effect but be blended and spread out over the coming months, will not affect any fee-earners earning less than Rs 1 lakh per month, which would include all newly-qualified lawyers at the firm.

However, after that at least 15% of retainer fees paid to fee-earners will be retained by the firm, potentially to be repaid at a future date when the slump in litigation work due to Covid-19 has eased, though we understand that no concrete date or metrics have been communicated to that extent internally.

That percentage would increase with seniority, with the largest cuts-cum-deferrals hitting the more 30 salaried partners in the litigation partnership, who may face up to 35% of their retainer fees being deferred.

Several of the firm’s equity partners, including corporate firm managing partner Rajiv Luthra and senior partner Mohit Saraf, and litigation senior partners HS (Bobby) Chandhok and Vijay Sondhi, declined to comment when contacted or did not respond to requests for comment since yesterday.

A tale of 4 partnerships

L&L Partners is an unusual firm in that united under one umbrella there are at least four partnerships with quite different ownership and management structures.

Correction 9 July 2020: There are four partnerships, not three as originally reported.

At Luthra - as it was formerly known - the corporate partnership that specialises in transactional work is in many ways the business that has put the firm into the category of the full-service corporate Marquee Firms. Managing partner Rajiv Luthra and senior partner Mohit Saraf are presumed to be the sole holders of equity in the corporate partnership.

We understand that the corporate partnership has paid out full salaries to all fee-earners, including all salaried partners, on time and not announced any measures to date.

We also hear from sources that internally, the corporate partnership management has been cautiously gung ho about the potential opportunities for business in a Covid-world, though billings have obviously been hit at L&L corporate, as they have been at every firm.

The other three Luthra firms are the litigation partnership, which has as strong a brand as corporate in its own right as a litigation powerhouse, as well as a separate partnership that deals in intellectual property (IP) and one that does tax.

Luthra and Saraf are equity partners in both of those partnerships too, alongside litigation equity partners HS (Bobby) Chandhok, Vijay Sondhi and Sudhir Sharma.

Those three non-corporate partnerships, in contrast to the corporate one, have been having detailed deliberations at least since April about whether deferrals and cuts are required.

Early murmurs

Salaries in L&L’s IP and tax firm partnerships, for instance, had been due on Friday 1 May 2020, much like the corporate partnership but an internal announcement at the IP and tax partnership from senior partners, ahead of the 1 May date, had caused some early flutters amongst fee-earners that there might be cuts.

The email had announced that only 50% of retainer fees would be disbursed for now over the weekend, while those earning less than Rs 1 lakh would be paid in full over the weekend.

The balance would be credited after a town hall meeting, the email had noted, without specifying an exact date.

The email had added that “whilst we are certain that we will emerge well, and God Willing, soon, out of these difficult times, until then, the Firm seeks your cooperation and patience for delays in addressing any of your issue/s and concerns”.

We understand from several sources that the delay had in part been caused by the passing away of a family member of a senior litigation partner, with the traditional several-day mourning period having meant that the firm’s senior partners’ committee could not meet to sign off on releasing the full disbursements.

However, those issues were eventually sorted out on Monday 5 May, after a crisis meeting of the senior partners’ committee, which includes Luthra, Saraf and the three litigation equity partners, and full monthly retainerships were then paid out to the around 15 fee-earners each in the intellectual property (IP) and tax firm.

While there were some concerns back then that litigation was also considering a deferral, retainers there were eventually paid when they were due (which is on the 7th of every month in Delhi).

Discussions continued

As is to be expected (and has been happening in law firm management all over the country and, indeed, the world), such internal deliberations never did end though.

Specifically, evaluations of revenues had been ongoing amongst the firm’s equity partners, coupled with discussions about whether and what kind of cost-saving measures the litigation partnership would take, if any.

In part, the decision to now defer salaries in litigation had been made in light of the continuing cost of business of Covid, particularly on the litigation practice, which has meant pretty much a complete eradication of more profitable “outstation” work, except for in very urgent matters, for instance.

As many different strokes as folks right now

L&L litigation is not the first firm to feel and make the pinch.

First was near-pureplay advocate-on-record (AOR) Supreme Court powerhouse Agarwal Law Associates, which very early on had seen filing work fall off a cliff with shut-down courts, and had announced 30% cuts for fee-earners on retainers of more than Rs 40,000 per month, as we had first reported on 27 March 2020.

Many other top corporate firms followed, with the depth of cuts and measures varying considerably in each case:

Comments

Guest 8 Jul 2020, 06:42
+3 -72
I warned many months ago on LI that Covid will ruin the legal economy and prospects for NLU grads. All NLUs must unite and lobby the government to create an Indian Judicial Service modelled on the IAS. Paper setting should be delegated to NLU professors/alumni and questions should based on the NLU curriculum rather than rote learning (i.e. emphasis on critical thinking, comparative law, case law method and writing skills).

NLUs can ignore my warning and advice at their own risk.
Nalu 8 Jul 2020, 09:04
+56 -1
DUDE. stop making this about NLU.... this is bigger than some university propoganda. What does your comment have to do with the salary cut?
Understand 8 Jul 2020, 10:17
+19 -1
We ignored you then, did you not understand? Now we are telling you categorically that we are ignoring you (at our own peril). Thanks much.
Jackal 8 Jul 2020, 17:04
+1 -1
Grow up. Stop being lame.
wut 11 Jul 2020, 02:02
+1 -0
An Indian Judicial Service along the lines of IAS/IPS does not even make sense. Trial court judges, by the very nature of their work, are required to be extremely well versed in the local languages and dialects, as well as local laws. I really cannot expect someone who has spent all their life in Ludhiana to understand the local dialects and contextual meanings in Kerala, and ensure proper records of, say, witness testimonies.

This is not to say your comment is otherwise useful or relevant to the issue at hand.
Guest 11 Jul 2020, 09:39
+0 -1
In All India Services, the officers alloted cadres other than their home state are taught local language of that alloted cadra state. That is part of the training. Otherwise say for example a newly appointed officer of the IAS/IPS who hails from north India will not be able to function in south india and vice versa. The IFS are trained in foreign languages. Then why can't a judical officer be trained? Unless you are suggesting judicial officers are any less competent. IJS is about transperency and equal opportunity. Else, for all times, we will find judges mostly from a certain background reaching the higher judiciary.
Troller buster 13 Jul 2020, 11:13
+2 -0
Dude how does this relate to the article? Stop with the trolling. You're just giving your school a bad name.

Get a life!
Ex Luthra 8 Jul 2020, 07:40
+34 -5
Luthra litigation has always been the step child of Rajiv Luthra with much less pay as compared to Luthra corporate. With this step it seems that either Rajiv Luthra has gone into retirement mode and completely withdrawn from the management or the litigation senior partners have stopped listening to him - either way its bad news for the litigation side. Its convenient for EPs to say that they will take zero when there is no way for anyone to check.
Current Lit 8 Jul 2020, 08:12
+27 -3
Rajiv Luthra actually supported the decision. When numbers were sought to be presented, he allowed Bobby etc to shout the same down. Belatedly he is creating a drama of his ignorance and calling up select partners and associates. His jagat-friend image is a sham; he actually only cosies up to money. How can it be that he wishes to go a particular way and so does Mohit, and the 3 can force their decision. It only happens when the Big Man’a support is there. He has clearly learnt a lot from Rajmata Scindia - who used to be his client. For the unaware types, please google Rajmata and Madhavrao and Vajpayee election.
Cashy 8 Jul 2020, 09:06
+23 -2
A few crores less this year wont matter for the EPs because they are already sitting comfortable on multiple crores. But a few lakhs less will matter to the others. Easy to have bread when you got cake in the fridge.
Ghamchakars club 8 Jul 2020, 07:41
+41 -3
Why retrospective from April 2020????? Is this a joke. Shameful..... Why not from April 2019 when L&L senior partners made spectacular profits in 2019-20 and did not share a dime as there was no equity or even any performance linked bonuses. How come a law firm which have not share any upside in last 10 years but it started performance link pay by reducing the last year guaranteed amounts legally committed to its retainers from the very first minute of the beginning of year (on retrospective basis) where senior Management could potential see dip in their profits and mind you - not likely to be in loss situation in 2020-21. Its shameful on part of management particularly Mr. Luthra. Partners meeting was a sham to justify consultative process when senior management was not listening at all to the views of salaried partners. Has Mr. Luthra and Mr Chandhoke not earned enough in last 20 years to take care of this situation..... why partners are buying Bentley by taking covid cess including from associates......
Zilch 8 Jul 2020, 07:49
+28 -4
There has been no communication whatsoever from the management to anyone other than to retained partners - appalling to say the least !! The associates have got to know from their partners. The management did not even deem it fit to apprise the firm of the move or the circumstances which have necessitated the move. No policy on when or how the deferral will be made up. Its seems to be a cut in the garb of a deferral. This place pretends to be a tier 1 firm but in reality functions like a district court chamber.
Lootera is the name 8 Jul 2020, 07:54
+25 -1
Shocked???? No. [...] In guise of Covid and managing cashflow, have protected their take. Stinks to high heavens. The 3 from litigation shouted down any debate while the Big Man disappeared from the scene. Literally shut his video. Spineless. Only the much maligned and abused Saraf stood firm that this is not needed and firm has enough cash to support all for next few months easily.
Update 8 Jul 2020, 08:00
+11 -0
I’ve heard cut for partners is 50 percent. Kian please update.
BBC 8 Jul 2020, 09:25
+3 -0
Yes, true!
Gareeb vakeel 8 Jul 2020, 08:06
+22 -6
Luthra is a sinking ship people. Jump off.
Just between us Girls 8 Jul 2020, 10:02
+22 -3
The Firm has sunk. There is nothing left.
Hehehe 8 Jul 2020, 10:33
+12 -1
Man, "Just between us Girls" would give 'heebie jeebies' to all well meaning professionals at L&L. The utter crassness and insensitivity of this. [...]
Luthra & Luthra - remember the world of today is not a place [...] I wonder if they even have POSH compliance and no Bentley doesn't count as POSH compliance.
Just between us Girls? 8 Jul 2020, 12:33
+4 -1
Hi, what is this "just between us girls" thing about? - concerned employee
Loo manners 8 Jul 2020, 14:26
+3 -1
It is Loo’s preface when he thinks he is passing on state secrets. Makes all people squirm with the blatant sexism.
Really pathetic move b 8 Jul 2020, 08:12
Contested
+15 -1
They have cut the retainership amounts retrospectively without informing anyone other than partners. Even partners were not properly heard.

Further there is no policy in place to define how claw back of cut portions would be done. This shows self centred and high handed nature of senior partners who have not only cut the retainership amounts retrospectively but also not made a policy regarding claw back. Not making such policy takes away the power from those whose retainership portion are cut and puts the senior partners in a position to dictate terms and ensure that they hold all the cards. Their whole agenda is to ensure that they make as much profits as they made during non-covid times. They have to fulfill this agenda cut retainership amounts (even when firm continues to make profits, mind you) and have also taken away JOBS OF TEN OFFICE BOYS, whose services should not have been terminated. They will go to all heights to get all the dimes.
Scooter wale 8 Jul 2020, 08:43
+4 -1
Why didn't rajiv luthra shared his views on LI. Why is he shying away..... why cannot consistent policies be applied as both the firm share one common brand. Why such disparity.... is rajiv not managing partner of both the firm....
Disappointing 8 Jul 2020, 08:25
+3 -0
Very disappointed
Ex Luthra 8 Jul 2020, 08:29
+9 -1
Mr. Luthra/Firm should review the working of one another 'practice area' that sits on the [...] floor ([...]), where the so-called 'heads' spend most of their time either away from the office or doing personal work. The work/revenue is mostly generated by younger partners. The 'heads' are adept at concocting billings to justify their presence, albeit at the expense of other hard-working counsels. The management of the firm has turned a blind eye simply because of sweet talk and family equations with the 'heads'. It is time for the management to carry out an audit of this practice and take immediate action to remove the rot in the system. As an ex-member of this practice area, I can assure that this team can be highly profitable minus the 'heads'.
Good idea 8 Jul 2020, 08:39
+3 -2
Their people would leave. Maybe that’s what they want.
Junior Corp Slave 8 Jul 2020, 08:55
+13 -1
Hoping my seniors at Corporate are not rejoicing that they are better placed relative to litigation. Ultimately Rajiv is the grand master there also. I am friends with some “Equity Structuring” committee and they said that there is no workable plan for dilution and professionalising the firm. Rajiv is so near retirement and suffers from bad health that all he is concerned about is his wealth. He has apparently made a proposal which would essentially bankrupt every junior partner in even a slight bad year and in good years assure his progeny continued money in the bank - waiting for details to come out. Its very very crazy. Everyone is waiting for Covid to get over. Rajiv is convinced that only he matters and others live off him and therefore there is no real partnership since he is the only one.
Comrade 2 8 Jul 2020, 17:29
+1 -0
Comrade at 15.2 is upto something about L&L. The sheer silence which has greeted JCS' comment is amazing. Heard in todays Corp Partners Meet also, no one raised equity issue.

Comrade - you are an insider at L&L and seen the plucking of the chickens.
kya shuu! 8 Jul 2020, 18:34
+1 -1
Why is Luthra and Saraf delaying equity? Lack of vision/trust/competency/profits?? All?
insider L&L 8 Jul 2020, 08:56
+3 -0
gayi hathi pani mein!
Jacko 8 Jul 2020, 09:20
+10 -0
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Client view 8 Jul 2020, 09:14
+17 -1
How can a firm that does not take care of its people take care of its clients? Also, if this makes their people lose motivation then how can these de-motivated people service the best interest of the client. I want my lawyer to be sharp and ready for action, not worrying how to pay the next installment- which will affect his ability to get me what i want. Time to rethink my association with them.
Guest 8 Jul 2020, 09:15
+7 -42
All those people who are not part of L&L can say whatever, but I would say “it’s none of your business”. Life is much easier in L&L when compared to all the other firms where your income always depends on how many clients you get. On the other hand L&L is no pressure zone. If the senior partners now want to introduce a different system, it’s their call. What needs to be appreciated is that the partners were heard unlike other places where the decisions are simply imposed.

Mr. Luthra is the best and according to what we heard, the process was absolutely democratic. The other senior partners also took pain in explaining the process and gave a fair opportunity. The very fact that people with salaries less than 1 lakh have not been touched shows the greatness of the firm.
Russia is democratic!! 8 Jul 2020, 10:00
+14 -3
You have to be out of your mind and clearly identify news from sniffing the Lord's farts - and there were times when people would see smoke and pass messages - how skillsets improve.

Anyway, RKL has been on a cut salary move for over 4 months. He tried at Corporate and his facts and attempts got taken to the cleaners by Mohit, Bikash, Sundeep and Vaibhav. Was so embarrassed that for over 3 months has not slowed an EC to happen. Forced one at Tax / IP and had to back off within a day. But now has managed to reach his [...] by joining in an orgy of unethical and immoral behaviour schemed by B, S and V. Shameful. RKL is anything but best. [...]
PeePee 8 Jul 2020, 10:33
+7 -0
Luthra has an IP team? Wowsa!!

What do they do?
Scent 8 Jul 2020, 10:34
+2 -0
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Comrade 8 Jul 2020, 15:38
+11 -0
It is said that Stalin (replace the name with the name of your fav dictator) forcefully clutched a chicken and stripped the squawking, struggling bird of its feathers.

He then set it down.

“Watch,” Stalin said, as he dropped small amounts of grain on the floor.

The bird began following him around the room, pecking up the grain.

“Do you see how that chicken follows me for food?” he asked his followers. “People are like that. Even if you inflict great pain on them, they will follow you for food the rest of their lives” And “That,” he told his follower, “is how you govern our stupid people".
La La Land 8 Jul 2020, 09:16
+14 -2
This only goes to show that the promoters/ EPs only want more money to buy their Bentleys, 7 Series, farm houses, homes in hill stations (and foreign destinations), cigars, single malts, designer track suits, t shirts, belts, shoes, expensive pens, gym memberships and what not, while the others slave to make ends need.

Why retrospective? That in itself is absolutely SHAMEFUL.
Alias 8 Jul 2020, 10:22
+23 -0
Factually incorrect statement La La Land has made. Which EP in Luthra holds a gym membership?
La La is sorry 8 Jul 2020, 10:49
+2 -1
Ever gone to Aman hotel? But sorry...my bad.... They probably have the entire gym at home. What was I thinking.
JayMan 8 Jul 2020, 10:01
+7 -1
Learn from HSA Mr Luthra. They have a history of paying salaries and bonuses on time. Never delayed. Right HSA folks? This years (2017) bonus already paid and salaries for May already half paid. That's called a man of his words!! U get the point Mr Luthra?
Harappa 8 Jul 2020, 10:16
+6 -2
Ha Ha. Left in the right time. Ha Ha.

Though on a more sombre note, corporate side (especially the performers) should rethink their relationship with RKL and litigation side. Both have been a drag for way too long. Just ask corporate side partners about the investment bank blacklisting. It was the most humiliating thing a law firm could encounter - reduced to being considered a dalal.

Between RKL and Mohit, the choice is not devil and deep sea; and even if so, devil is completely avoidable.

Anyway, happy tidings guys, we are happy to take a few.
SAMinar 8 Jul 2020, 11:18
Troll
+14 -4
It is so heartening to have Mr. Luthra attend our seminars. Clearly shows learning has no age and the depth of SAM's knowledge. Wish Luthra could boast of the same.

But Mr Luthra, the only complaint, don't disrupt professional sessions with personal interventions like birthday and anniversary wishes.

And Mr. Saraf and other people from Luthra, you are also welcome to attend our sessions. Do share topics - happy to start with A, B, C for you guys.

Lol. What a firm!!!
SAMinar 8 Jul 2020, 12:05
Troll
+1 -7
Your message shows how stupid you are. Join L& L and learn some decency and understand knowledge first hand. Hope you were able to learn A, B,C when RKL spoke during your seminar.

Always happy to teach.. Do not hesitate to ask
Sammie 8 Jul 2020, 13:04
+4 -1
We all learnt how to say Happy Anniversary.

Sorry we also learnt how to be a fool nonchalantly.

Don’t be a tool to RKL and the Luthra PR - smell the coffee. Stop smelling fuel burn from the Bentley and hallucinating about His Greatness.
Cast In Stone 8 Jul 2020, 11:56
+5 -0
which world are you living in Mr. Guest 2. whose views? Did you not see one of them shutting down not just the Partners but also the Corp EP? Stop posting incorrect information to show yourself in good light. Everyone has seen the real faces.
This decision has just been imposed and imposed in very bad manner on all despite everyone agreeing to share the burden of downturn. But perhaps EPs know that there is nothing of that sort happening . No reasonable justification was given for rejecting such a reasonable suggestion. It was rightly put across to them by one of the EP during the discussion that the only objective to introduce this system is to protect profits. if they still went ahead shows the kind of mind set they have. In this difficult time they want a pie out of the share of their own leave alone.......

Guys, avoid thinking of coming here to L&L.
AILETaspirant 8 Jul 2020, 12:38
+1 -10
Kian, please provide a complete report of how many NLU grads are affected.....
Perspective my dear 8 Jul 2020, 17:18
+2 -0
None. Loot Liya lit doesn’t hire from any NLU. They can’t afford. They have been running an experiment for last 20 years to prove correct, the maxim [...]. Ask any L&L corp counsel about [...] Litigation.
Guest 8 Jul 2020, 12:54
Troll
+3 -10
Instead of these measures, first alteast cancel all the fresh hires made for the next two years. Including any offer made this year. Stop making the current lot pay.
If no future grad has a job. They will do good work for the society and not go for slavish corporate jobs that hardly pay peanuts.
Really pathetic move b 8 Jul 2020, 13:30
+2 -1
EP won't give a statement and won't hear the objections. They won't invite views from the retainers other than partners and won't inform them of deduction couched in deferment. Deferment in case there is - when is that policy going to be discussed, framed, circulated and implemented? Oh ya silence is golden for EP when it's relating to an issue about people other EP
Big firms 8 Jul 2020, 16:19
+16 -17
The only firm that is paying well is Singh and Associates. They have best bonus and salaries paid this year. They have all big clients. Best Managing partners. Only firm to work at today.
Guest 8 Jul 2020, 17:08
+4 -3
Get foreign law firms in now!! WTF is the govt not enacting this reform?? Kick out RS Prasad and Manan Mishra now!
Lallypop 8 Jul 2020, 18:37
+7 -1
Foreign firms are firing people just so you know. Not all is green on that side.
Seriously? 9 Jul 2020, 06:49
+7 -0
Do you seriously think that any foreign firm that is cutting expenses including partner and lawyer pay everywhere else in the world is going to come in and make investments on office and people for a few years and pay them without having any certainty on how the world's economy is going? No partner in a foreign firm will allow subsidization of a new office especially in an untested market when their own pay has been reduced. Dont simply think that foreign firms are waiting to line up and enter India. Most big firms are shutting offices in emerging economies.
Associate - ass so far 8 Jul 2020, 17:10
+13 -7
Finally it is clear that Mohit is the man to back...Rajiv and the others are not [...]...eyes have opened up in last week [...]...Mohit becomes bad for all because he thinks for the FIRM unlike others who think about themselves...Suddenly the last few appraisals and observations of Mohit don’t seem so bad...FIRM ki soch raha hai so may be harsh...baaki apni sochte hai isliye unhe farak nahi padta whether hum bura kaam bhi karen...sorry Mr Saraf for the curses over the years...
Colours 8 Jul 2020, 18:38
+7 -1
Oh he is just riding this. True colours will come. Just you wait Mr. Higgins.
Mr. Higgins 8 Jul 2020, 21:33
+1 -1
Upvote just for the My Fair Lady reference haha
Heroes & Villains 9 Jul 2020, 03:10
+1 -1
Higgins was just pure selfish. Maybe Karna is a more apt depiction for Mohit - also in these nationalist Atmanirbhar times, better to be inward. Sold his soul for silver and respect. But when it finally came down to the crunch, like Karna risked himself by giving up his armor, today Mohit is willing to risk everything for the Firm. More power to the bleeding heart villains of this world. They do more good than harm and deserve more than what we give them credit for.
Bar election 8 Jul 2020, 20:30
+7 -0
If the Lit partners cant take care of their own flock, then should we rethink the next Delhi bar election.
Wand Chakho 8 Jul 2020, 21:27
+9 -0
This entire exercise shows how this firm is willing to benefit from the misery that many of their lawyers will go through in order to save their profits.

The Managing Partner is just hanging in there, to enjoy the perks for being a MP. Exactly what does he do? He keeps calling himself a satiated dictator - must be the Singapore influence- but this has clearly shown that he is not satiated for sure. He along with CSS has shown that they will stoop to any levels for their luxuries.

MS is no different either, he is now strategically publicly opposing the move. But he is also a partner in the litigation partnership, so why did he not give his comment to LI if he was opposing the move. Now his Chamachas and blue eyed boys are out to support him here.

RL you have let this firm be destroyed in your time as MP. You will now be remembered for greed not for having started a firm. This man won a law day award!!! He is a jagat friend but always doing charity with his partners, associates or KN s money.

Chandioke keeps saying he [...] believes in charity- [...] commiting daylight robbery from people less fortunate than him.

Other two partners, were no more than just names - [...] practically retired except for random flexing of muscles and fighting useless elections at firms expense!
Good 9 Jul 2020, 04:51
+1 -2
Much needed to save the ship ! Glad that Luthra had realized this at this juncture itself.

Situation would only aggravate from hereon !
3 chicks and a Bear 9 Jul 2020, 06:40
Contested
+20 -7
Heard Lit Partners couldn’t sleep last night. Some out of shock and some out of excitement.

Corporate has voted 30 out of 31 present to disassociate with Lit senior partners in full. Partnership Deed examined and read in meeting. 1st but who is 31 here continues to hem and haw but as he so nicely puts it, ‘time to smell the coffee or whiskey’.

All good litigation guys (you know who you are friends) would be welcomed into L&L corporate with open arms. But the others also need not worry - we would take you in and teach you competitiveness and hard work. Bright days ahead for L&L as we all push in the same direction.

For the 3 rotten eggs and the Big Man who seems to be under the impression that he has played too smart - understand that we are a democratic generation. We strive for unanimity but settle for majority or even plurality. We would never settle for autocracy or as shown in the townhall, mobocracy. The firm is not just your life work, the firm is a collective. We all have to be taken together. Vetos or too-down high command culture won’t work.

Corp has atleast strived to consultations and democracy though it is still far beyond expectations since the consultations with other partners is still not as an obligation of management but rather at management benevolence. But it is there. Lit has nothing.

Rajiv and Mohit - make sure the solution to equity muddle is found soon else there would be nothing much left. Make equity a means to equitably channel wealth to all and decisions to all. Remove artificial baggages of superiority based on historical circumstances. As noted above, this is a different generation.
Treebeard 9 Jul 2020, 07:27
+5 -4
Do i sense rumblings of a split in the woods?

Stop your selfish agenda of trying to use this unfortunate situation to get equity- its never going to come to you. Earn it fair and square. This issue is bigger than you. It involves survival of people in these troubled times.

Go play your "i want equity" song somewhere else.
Retard Ho 9 Jul 2020, 07:48
+4 -0
Why do you think this situation has come to pass? Equity is not to enrich though that may be possible. It is to get decision making more broadbased. 2 (or 5) being able to decide sitting in their gilded homes is just very 19th century. More people with diverse backgrounds would always aid in better actions.

So [...] go wallow [...] where you are happy to not be burdened by the heavy task of decisions and choices. While, we who really care for the firm and ourselves, strive to show RKL and MS that this day has come because they failed to get more voices in.
Incorrect 9 Jul 2020, 09:01
+6 -4
Where do you even get information? Rajiv Luthra had clearly said that he agrees with the group’s grievances and would be letting Bobby, Sudhir and Vijay know. Infact at the start of the meeting, he had also informed everyone of his anguish and consequent resignation from Litigation side’s MP role. He stands firmly with the juniors of Litigations and with the whole corporate side. Don’t create a rift where none exist. RKL has always stood for what is right and this time would be no different.
LoL 9 Jul 2020, 09:34
+2 -1
Your claim that RKL has resigned from the role of MP for the litigation practice. Does that not effectively mean there has been a rift, although you're asking others not to assert so?

They can rebrand as L&L but everyone knows what/who the L refers to. I mean, the firm can structure however it wants to internally, but it's a singular entity for outsiders. Therefore, if the MP for the firm doesn't remain the MP for a set of practice areas that come under the litigation senior partners, then what does that indicate other than a rift?
Colouring 9 Jul 2020, 09:42
+3 -0
Agreeing and acting in furtherance of that "agreement" are two separate things. The former means jack if you won't put the latter in action. RL could have put his foot down. He does that in everything else. Resignation would mean nothing.

All of the EPs are equally to blame for this especially when the partners were amenable to a less drastic measure.

Fact is, they wanted to do this for a while and used the Covid situation .. rather milked it to their total benefit to the extreme detriment of others.

Very unstable firm. Clients are watching.
NLU 9 Jul 2020, 16:52
+1 -1
But what does RKL stepping down as MP of lit effectively mean? An actual split into 2 separate firms?
Splitting 9 Jul 2020, 17:34
+1 -0
The split is surely inevitable. This may have just hastened the process. They need to rethink this. Else CSS may just be CSS Les Less. In any case, lit don't got no share in LL corp which is the money maker...sort off.
216 10 Jul 2020, 04:41
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sorry who is css?
16 9 Jul 2020, 10:55
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That’s the number of comments pending moderation or blocked. And the number which have been redacted must be another 20. Is Luthra this strong that Kian censors like Communist China. People are more freer and able to comment about Modi ji and Amit bhai. Kian - be more liberal with your thought and less with your scissors. Free and fearless press - my foot.
Guest 9 Jul 2020, 13:49
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No, it shows how bitchy commentators here can be when allowed to play anonymously.
Pussy cat 9 Jul 2020, 16:40
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Why does Mohit Saraf still call Rajeev Luthra "Mr. Luthra". Is it an issue of size and stature or merely respect?
Both are great businessmen and good lawyers, but both need to talk less and do more. They have everything going for them and have built great teams and clients to mint moolah. Just stop having hours and hours of zoom calls, let people work and make money! Pick up the top litigation partners from mid size firms in Bombay. They are cheaper, smarter and know how litigation functions. For Delhi, you will have to build bottom up, but there's enough work to go around for even the dumbest. But please please stop yapping and go make some money! Otherwise, you're only making LI more profitable by providing fodder!
Worried batch of 2020 9 Jul 2020, 17:05
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Does anyone know anything about whether job offers of batch of 2020 will be revoked? Currently the joining month for most of these firms is in October. Does anyone know whether that'll be pushed even further?
Guest 9 Jul 2020, 17:59
Troll
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Please leave those jobs by yourself before they cancel them. Devote time to social service. You will be much more content and satisfied. Corporate is a waste of education. Lawyers aren't meant to be a clerk. Fight for social justice issues.
Hungry 9 Jul 2020, 18:24
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..and pray how would we put food on the table or repay our student loans? Would you pay?
Easy to preach social justice when you.got the money.
Trollhunter 9 Jul 2020, 18:31
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I think getting trolls like you to shut up consists of social justice. Kian should take a lead in it. We all will follow.
Hungry 10 Jul 2020, 06:09
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Easy to tell the hungry ones to shut up when you have had your fill isnt it? Troll scape much?
Trollhunter 10 Jul 2020, 07:29
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@Hungry: Not as easy as figuring out which comment a reply is to, apparently.
Eh 10 Jul 2020, 02:19
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Please also know that a corporate lawyer's job is not clerical.. There are clerical moments but in total it's definitely not clerical. Needs sharp thinking for understanding of all issues and of course a good 'common sense'. You don't advise your clients while being a clerk.
Split 9 Jul 2020, 21:13
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A split seems inevitable. Waiting to see what will the people choose. 35 percent deferral along with bonus increment deferral or a better base pay with a reasonable variable.
Covid19 9 Jul 2020, 21:14
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Why to use my name as an excuse?
Capitalism 11 Jul 2020, 02:37
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era of capitalism has begun post Covid 19, CAM and Luthra are the frontrunner crony capitalists....indulge in foreign trips for baba, baby , buy bentley's and penny pinch on payments to salaried people
Ex employee 13 Jul 2020, 21:57
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Who are the equity partners in corporate
Reasonable 11 Jul 2020, 07:39
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I appeal to the better judgment of the three Luthra lit EPs - it's not too late to reconsider this arbitrary and unfair move especially when Luthra lit is paid 25-30% lesser than the market average. Loyalty is a two way street.

A split in the firm is to no one's advantage (except rivals), and least of all to CSS.
HR Hawks 11 Jul 2020, 08:18
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Does Luthra also have a HR (Harmful resource) like CAM?
Peninsula Fly 13 Jul 2020, 09:22
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You mean Holographic Resource....
Insider luthra 15 Jul 2020, 16:08
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Aree, we only have interns manager who manages only law students in room
Waiting.. 13 Jul 2020, 07:37
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Update? Any announcement?

Our firm has hiring plans.
We were waiting for L&L lawyers to apply. Waiting..
2015batch 15 Jul 2020, 09:14
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Will joining for 2015 batch incoming associates be deferred again? Hearing rumours of Jan 2021
Please confirm
Panchayat 28 Jul 2020, 06:13
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Senior management talks to only hire a few of those people and run others as 'para legals' so they have to pay out a much lesser amount, specially for lit based prac. Best to try your luck at other places
Insider 15 Jul 2020, 19:31
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When is the split happening... Any update?!
Bonus 15 Jul 2020, 19:33
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When are we getting our bonus
Merakuchnahijaata 28 Jul 2020, 06:12
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Bros who all does this affect? Tax, litigation, competition and IPR? Aren't these prac. tired of the sorry treatment at Luthra! [...]
Isme13Ghata 28 Jul 2020, 18:13
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LI has truly democratised legal news in India. A post LI world allows employee to ask the Managing Partner what does he want to get out of the firm. Cant happen without support of insiders, can his happen anywhere else? About 5 years ago, the largest firm split, but it didnt get this dirty. The brothers split and built their own firm, what will happen here.