Nishith Desai opens in New York City after fairly painless 6-month process to secure licence

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Nishith Desai Associates has opened an office in New York - its fourth office overseas and second in the US – hoping to tap the increased activity of private equity houses in that region of the US.

The firm has had an office on the West Coast, in the Silicon Valley’s Palo Alto for 15 years now, but managing partner Nishith Desai said that almost all the largest private equity funds were on the East coast now. “In early 2000 it was all about technology and venture capital for start up in Silicon Valley, post dot com bust it was about growth capital and private equity out of East Coast and now it’s on both the coasts. US is three times larger than India and hence justifies offices on both sides.”

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The office will be headed by Mansi Seth, who had graduated from NLU Jodhpur in 2007 after which she had worked at Nishith Desai Associates in Mumbai for five years, then completing an LLM in international taxation at Georgetown University by 2013. She has now rejoined the firm from PwC in New York where she had worked between 2013 and 2015.

She specialises in international tax, funds and M&A work, while also working on legal advice to the financial services, technology, media, communications and pharmaceutical sectors.

“We train our people and practice law following the Google model - of the total time spent we expect everyone to spend 70% time on core speciality, 20% on something related to core, and 10% something unrelated. To be innovative and creative one needs to have deep vertical knowledge( or speciality) but must have have horizontal or more of lateral thinking- then only you can think out of box,” noted Desai.

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The new office would partly be a business development centre, said Desai, but importantly it would also be a delivery centre of Indian law, allowing large projects of the firm to be serviced around the clock “without imbalancing personal lives”, said Desai. “If the project starts for example in India during the daytime, it seamlessly moves to Munich, then to New York, then to Palo Alto, then to Singapore. This is mainly possible because we are a one firm, firm and our model is not ‘eat what you kill’- therefore everyone collaborates. Technology is second greatest enabler.”

The office would scale up its headcount in future said Desai, but added that he visited New York at least monthly in any case and that the firm “always believe[d] in brain count rather than headcount”.

“We believe that in the next five to seven years, because of robotics and automation, 30% of the workforce will be redundant. Lawyers too will be definitely affected especially those who are more into compliance work than those who are creativity driven. But a lot more use of artificial intelligence and robotics, will create a lot more redundancy - therefore we are cautious of [increasing] headcount.”

Set up costs

As in other global cities, the New York office is a serviced business centre. It is based in Manhattan’s 375 Park Avenue that would allow the firm to scale up if required and avoid the bigger overheads of a bespoke office space for a small headcount (the firm has one lawyer in Munich, where it set up in 2013, and two lawyers each in its Palo Alto and Singapore offices).

“No doubt it’s expensive (New York), easily both rent and the people cost [and] we can’t afford to even cut corners anyway, because there’s a reputational issue,” commented Desai.

“When you set up a foreign branch, will be seven year horizon before you really settle down - most people want immediately - if you focus on select clients and verticals, it takes time to build a foreign office. The Palo Alto office in Silicon Valley was one of the most expensive places in the world but you have to bear that kind of thing and create sustainable relationships.”

Securing a licence from the New York City state bar to practice Indian law in the city “took quite some time”, said Desai. “Six to eight months it took, a lot of formalities were there, they needed a lot of paper work: recommendation letters from India and in the US, we had to go through [an]interview process, it takes several months, they ask you many questions there. They want to know what is your legal system like, how are you taught ethics, they asked a lot of questions.”

Local requirements also mandated payment of a small fee and adequate local insurance coverage, which required an extension of the firm’s existing policy to New York, as it had also been required to do for its Munich and Singapore offices.

“If your paperwork is good then there is no problem,” Desai commented on the accreditation process.

Non-Indian law firms are not permitted under current regulations from having any permanent office in India.

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Comments

GuestJBD 6 Jan 2016, 05:13
+8 -4
Well done Mansi. Super proud !
AwNoNg 6 Jan 2016, 06:41
+9 -3
because we are a one firm, firm and our model is not 'eat what you kill'- therefore everyone collaborates! Many need to imbibe this!
Managing Partner 6 Jan 2016, 09:30
+9 -0
Some law firm owners believe in 'kill before your eat"!
HunterThompsonGunner 6 Jan 2016, 20:33
+2 -0
What's the point of eating something you don't kill? The whole reason we suffer this miserable profession is for the thrill of the kill. What else there?
Dazed and Confused 6 Jan 2016, 06:53
+29 -13
I was going to write something really snarky but I thought, "It's a new year, let's wish everyone happiness." Consider yourself wished.

I'm sure a junior PWC staff lawyer from Jodhpur will be super impressive to the laid-back fellows who populate the money business in the financial capital of the planet. Perhaps...no...I'm quite sure about it. Bold move, Mr Desai!
volante 6 Jan 2016, 16:28
+1 -1
whats the starting salary in NDA mumbai??
eyeopener 7 Jan 2016, 00:09
+13 -0
Lalit Bhasin@SILF wake up!

You always cry 'Reciprocity', on this basis (Indian law firm Nishith Desai setting up office in New York), will you allow New York based law firms to set up office in India? or

Will you continue with your protective(vested interest) hypocricisy!!!
Open Eyes 7 Jan 2016, 08:35
+2 -0
Maybe in my next life, when I open Bhasin & Co, New York! Rofl!
Monny 7 Jan 2016, 09:16
+0 -0
I guess its cool for Indian firms to expand abroad. The IBLJ had done a story a couple of months ago about Indian firms going abroad. I wonder why none of the larger firms have tried this. Also, the IBLJ article doesn't really go beyond the usual law firm bluster. What is the real situation with these offices? Not trying to be mean, but I'm genuinely curious to know what benefits have actually accrued to these firms.
LAA Firm 7 Jan 2016, 11:14
+4 -0
Singapore office of an Indian boutique is quiet successful as a P O Box address. It looks cool on the website.
LaLaLa 7 Jan 2016, 17:38
+4 -0
Bengaluru based. ;)
123456 7 Jan 2016, 10:01
+0 -0
Hey LI please show this to the BJP and Bar Council people and ask them why they can;t allow foreign law firms. Why have you completely stopped coverage of this issue?
WTF!!!!!! 7 Jan 2016, 11:25
+26 -1
"The new office would partly be a business development centre, said Desai, but importantly it would also be a delivery centre of Indian law, allowing large projects of the firm to be serviced around the clock “without imbalancing personal lives”, said Desai. “If the project starts for example in India during the daytime, it seamlessly moves to Munich, then to New York, then to Palo Alto, then to Singapore."

Seriously!!!!!! I mean Seriously!!!!!! So drafting of an agreement is initiated by the Mumbai team and then moves to Munich because the so called Mumbai lawyers don't have an imbalance in their personal life and then moves to NY and Palo Alto and then to Singapore and by the time the Mumbai lawyer wakes up,,,,,,wallah the document is done....brilliant.......Was this man high on something? I can't help but comment some of the lawyers in the country and turning senile day by day.

For the record LI should also interact with the associates of the said firm to understand how imbalanced life these guys lead. Hypocrisy at its best....
kianganz 7 Jan 2016, 11:28
+2 -2
To be fair, he was only saying it would move around the world for big big deals, where surely the work can be split up more easily between offices, rather than a single draft starting in one place and going to another?

Work life balance worse at NDA than at other firms paying equivalent (other than the early-rising breakfast briefings?).
Monny 7 Jan 2016, 17:44
+4 -0
Would be cheaper to just have people work in shifts like call centres. Don't need Munich office to take over during my beddy by times. Second shift Monny will come in at 9 pm to relieve me of my tedium.
WTF!!!!!! 8 Jan 2016, 06:52
+1 -2
I am sure you can look at it that way but then how does splitting up roles in a project allow a 'balance in the personal lives'? You would ideally handle whatever role is assigned to you. How would one assign the same role to different members based on timezones? I am sorry but I am still a bit lost on the explanation sufficed. A very lame explanation I would say.

I also do not see the commercial logic behind setting up a standalone foreign office as a business development hub.You do have companies like Regis renting out commercial space to corporates. Why not sit out of one such offices and incur lesser costs instead of investing a sizeable revenue chunk for setting up an independant base. But then its not my money..... or my vision.

Anyways all the best to NDA!
Regis 8 Jan 2016, 11:50
+2 -0
Its Regus... :)
HunterThompsonGunner 8 Jan 2016, 11:26
+1 -0
Maybe foreign offices are a great way to save on Holidays and off-sites? Maybe Kian should write to the BCI asking that all law firms open Bali offices at once!
Amused by you 11 Jan 2016, 08:00
+0 -0
You are definitely not a lawyer or else you wouldn't be trolling sites and posting comments but busy filling up your billable hours. Sounds like you were rejected by NDA after applying. Sour grapes... understandable that you would be so petty...pitiful indeed
Legal indian 7 Jan 2016, 13:44
+4 -0
Indian firms globalizing is a good thing. There are always cynics out there.But tbe world is for the brave ones and not for arm chair critics !
Snooz 7 Jan 2016, 18:23
+11 -2
Guys, wake me up when Desai opens a tax uni next. I have parked my LLM for that, I tell you. I have as much fascination with foreign LLMs as Desai has with foreign offices. Back to sleep. Snoozzz
Rapid 11 Jan 2016, 01:31
+5 -5
I dunno who NDA is kidding with a 2007 graduate from jodhpur and a degree from georgetown of all places, makes me wonder whether llm unemployment is reducing so much. LI ? Kian ? Indian lawyers ? Indian clients?

Sure as hell its not the stars of the financial capital of the world and till date the centre of the known universe.
Momo 12 Jan 2016, 12:47
+0 -1
Well done Mansi, all the best.
Ignore the above, haters gonna hate :)
AKA 4 Feb 2016, 13:22
+1 -0
Probably the worst firm and the worst set of lawyers in India.