Top Mumbai solicitors Federal & Rashmikant (lawyers of Cyril Shroff) face break-up [UPDATE: Firm reorganising partnership]

38-year-old partnership between Federal and Rashmikant to break
38-year-old partnership between Federal and Rashmikant to break

Federal & Rashmikant’s two senior name partners M Federal and C Rashmikant are due to separate, dissolving the partnership of the top Mumbai litigation and real estate firm, according to two reliable sources.

We separately emailed both real estate partner M Federal and litigation partner C Rashmikant for comment about their break-up earlier this week.

Both jointly responded, stating: “We do not comment on speculation.”

Update 23 June, 750pm: We have received a new joint statement that the firm is now reorganising its partnership: “We are in the process of re-organizing the Firm. This is being done for the best interest of the future of the Firm and all those working/associated with us including our clients.”

Federal & Rashmikant (F&R) has generally kept a low profile, as many of the more old-school Mumbai solicitors firms do.

However, the name hit the mainstream press after the Times of India first reported that it was representing then-Amarchand Mangaldas co-managing partner Cyril Shroff in the dispute with his brother Shardul (who had relied on Bharucha & Partners as his law firm).

UK-based consultancy RSG Consulting lists F&R, founded in 1980, as having 2 partners and 15 total lawyers, while legal directory Magic Lawyers states it has 5 partners, with 15-20 associates, with “leading individuals” besides the two name partners also being Murtuza Federal and Rohan Dakshini (who had made partner at the firm in 2009).

Magic Lawyers noted that “the firm relies on Senior Partner C Rashmikant’s excellent reputation and relationship with domestic clientele, especially in the Real Estate space. The firm is unique in the fact that in spite of being based out of Mumbai its Partners are often mandated by their clients to represent them in the Supreme Court of India in New Delhi.”

Update 23 June 2018: Chambers & Partners lists both founding partners as “star individuals”, with C Rashmikant in litigation and M Federal in real estate. The firm as a whole has a rank of “band 1” in real estate and “band 2” in dispute resolution.

Photo by Hernan PC.

Comments

Hearsay? 23 Jun 2018, 01:36
+18 -1
Kian Ganz on 6 Apr 2013 - “.... if any report of ours is based purely on hearsay, we would clearly say that it was hearsay.

I don't think that we have ever reported any story relying purely on hearsay - in fact, we'll usually bend over backwards to get on-the-record confirmation or to give everyone involved a chance to comment, or decline to comment, as appropriate. ...”

The partners have both declined to comment on “speculation”. It’s interesting how Kian hasn’t stated whether “it’s understood that...” or the source of such news, but has proceeded to state as confirmed news that a firm is dissolving. Quite contrary to what Kian stated in 2013 about publishing “hearsay” or confirmed reports. This clearly seems like a “hearsay” report, but I guess even journalists keep changing their reporting policies in order to sensationalise and generate gossip.
kianganz 23 Jun 2018, 04:24
+5 -32
Thanks for pointing out, had forgotten to add appropriate attribution, which have now done - we have two reliable sources that the break-up is happening, but have not been able to fully confirm the reasons for the break up yet.

I understand that it's largely a matter of succession of the next generation of family at the firm, though I don't have further details.

In any case, we regularly report news when partners or firms don't comment, if we have adequate sourcing. In this case, we are confident in our information and the story, though the process is not yet a done deal.
Guest 23 Jun 2018, 02:43
+1 -0
So is there reaction not clear that this is speculation?
Guest 2 23 Jun 2018, 03:58
+3 -2
Clearly seems like speculation. LI doesn’t seem to have any proof or basis for this news.
Ignorance 23 Jun 2018, 03:21
+45 -0
Kian, maybe you should check your facts and information first before reporting unsubstantiated articles solely because you’ve received some gossip from some source. You are clearly not even aware of who the partners are and how many partners are there in Federal & Rashmikant. The fact that you only know them as Cyril Shroff’s lawyers makes it abundantly clear how less you know of Federal & Rashmikant and the major landmark cases and clients they’ve handled. Journalism shouldn’t be just about reporting gossip when you get some. Journalism is required to be facts being reported after a thorough research. Clearly, your work isn’t thorough.
Bliss 23 Jun 2018, 04:09
+83 -2
Yes, it's insulting to them to be referred to as "Cyril Shroff's lawyers". That's like saying "Somy Ali's former boyfriend, Salman Khan"...
Concerned 23 Jun 2018, 05:09
+8 -1
You said it!!
Concerned 23 Jun 2018, 05:23
+27 -0
Kian, you’ve become like Mumbai Mirror page 2. Thriving on gossip?
As said in the earlier comments, how can you limit Mumbai’s (dare I say) Best Litigaton and ( one of the best) Real Estate Firm’s to be recognised as the firm that helped Mr. Shroff during the AMSS split. It’s insulting the superb work they’ve done and continue to do and the respect they’ve garnered over the years. You may report all the heresay you wish, but don’t report it so terribly that the joke is on you.
kianganz 23 Jun 2018, 05:23
+6 -39
I don't think it's disrespectful, quite the contrary. If a top lawyer trusts and uses them as his litigation firm for personal matters, they must be pretty good at what they do...
Concerned 23 Jun 2018, 05:42
+22 -2
Oh not “ must be” they definitely are excellent at what they do, but for you to limit them to to be known because of one matter is, well, shoddy.
kianganz 23 Jun 2018, 05:47
+8 -32
They are a firm that has kept a very low profile and won't be known to students or corporate lawyers outside Mumbai necessarily. And I don't think their involvement in any matters other than this one has been reported in the press. Therefore, it's a good example of a case that in one stroke illustrates that they are top tier. It's an oversimplification of course, but in this case its a useful one...
Concerned 23 Jun 2018, 06:29
+31 -3
Students interested in litigation and corporate firms that matter know of fnr. You may not,because of the lack of interest(?) in reporting about litigation matters on LI, but others do. Just for the record, their involvement in Yes Bank matter was reported in the Eco Times.
PA to the DA 25 Jun 2018, 12:04
+3 -2
Kian isn't entirely wrong tbh. F&R are legendary in apna Bombay but are practically unheard of in Delhi. Doesn't take away from their repute, obviously, but explains why Kian felt the need to give (weirdly phrased) context.
Note to the Editor 23 Jun 2018, 06:00
+22 -2
May I ask you to clarify why you then did not describe Bharucha in every story your report about them as Shardul’s lawyer.
kianganz 23 Jun 2018, 06:05
+3 -35
It's all about context and making stories accessible to readers. Bharucha & P is a much more well-known brand that we and others have reported on many times before. F&R is not a brandname known to most, other than those in the know about that specific sector.
Guest 3 23 Jun 2018, 07:01
+25 -2
Haha! Your comment only proves how ignorant you are if you’re claiming that Bharucha & Partners is a much more well-known brand. F&R is a brand name much more well known to most. Simply because you are ignorant, does not mean everyone else is too! Your own article states that though they’re a Mumbai based firm, they are briefed by clients for work even in the Supreme Court. Quite contradictory statements you’re making there, Kian!!
Trent raznor 23 Jun 2018, 07:17
+23 -1
Seconded.

Just because they don't have a serious corporate law practice, and therefore no deal reports, does not mean that they are low profile. They are low profile in the internet, not where it matters.
Nine and More 26 Jun 2018, 04:52
+4 -2
Dear Trent,

Kian is the one whose responses are on a Downward Spiral.

To go back to the topic- Kian, journalism is about putting things in context. You haven't, and you didn't get it right the first time. At least acknowledge this, instead of putting your Head, Like, into A Hole. You must think all of us are forming a Pretty Hate Machine, but We're In This Together. It will only bring us Closer.

- Hurt
kianganz 26 Jun 2018, 05:15
+1 -9
No need to feel hurt, have a look: I have already acknowledged that we didn't mention Federal's RE practice, and duly updated the article... However, all that could have been communicated to us in a normal manner, rather than getting all Trent Reznor about it... ;)
DarthVader 23 Jun 2018, 07:44
+11 -18
In Kian's defence, at least at most law schools, Bharucha definitely enjoys more brand recognition. F&R is not even a firm that most RCCs deal with. Considering that law students are a sizable part of the readership of this site, that alone justifies something like this. You say that F&R is much more known to most, but I have to disagree with that, because the only people who would know them ARE people who are in the know and have to approach lit firms. Most people will never hear about them (in corp) because they have such a low profile. To say that most people know it more than Bharucha is absurd. The only firms that almost "everyone" knows are KCo, SAM, and CAM (unless you define everyone as people working lit).
hahaha 25 Jun 2018, 08:47
+3 -2
Bharucha is a better known brand than F&R..are you kidding. How can you even say such things!!
Hahahaha 26 Jun 2018, 06:56
+0 -1
Oh! Didn’t you know? LI has the sole authority to determine, decide and declare (with lots of ignorance)!!!
kianganz 26 Jun 2018, 07:09
+2 -3
[img]https://media0.giphy.com/media/useUF6IHpTqSc/200.gif[/img]
Trent raznor 23 Jun 2018, 07:10
+19 -1
Seriously Kian, while I appreciate your reply, it's a very respected firm, with a long and very high profile list of representation - including the Mills cases in Bombay. Writing lawyers of Cyril is really trivialising all that.
What a joke! 23 Jun 2018, 08:10
+17 -3
Kian has just laid out the criteria for being a good lawyer... only “if a top lawyer trusts and uses them as his litigation firm for personal matters”. *applause*

Kian, you are only making foolish statements by trying to justify this article. Just FYI, in case you’re not already aware, a law firm isn’t proven to be good because another top law firm trusts and uses them... please note I said “another” top law firm because F&R was already a top law firm before Cyril Shroff briefed them. Also, you are not giving due credit to and only insulting all the majors clients that F&R has had even before Cyril Shroff went to them by suggesting that only Cyril Shroff can make the best judgment call vis-a-vis hiring a lawyer.
kianganz 23 Jun 2018, 08:43
+6 -31
That's quite some reading comprehension, deductive reasoning abilities on display in the comments today... :)

Our headline even called them a 'top' firm, which we have never said about any firm that I can remember. Why so insecure?
What a joke! 23 Jun 2018, 08:53
+12 -2
No insecurities as far as I am concerned, Kian! Only pointing out the inconsistencies in your own article and comments. Top law firms don’t need to be identified by who their clientele is.
kianganz 23 Jun 2018, 11:12
+4 -29
So by that reasoning, something can be a top law firm WITHOUT any clients? Arguably, who your clients are and who reposes their trust in you as a lawyer, is the single most important thing a legal professional has (besides professional ethics and knowledge of the law, which are hopefully givens in most cases).
DB9 25 Jun 2018, 06:32
+7 -3
Let's face it, this story wouldn't have received that many hits if it weren't for CAM in the headline. Who's really bothered about old school firm like Federal & Rashmikant !! Right,Kian?
kianganz 25 Jun 2018, 10:07
+2 -6
Indirectly, perhaps. But actually, whenever we cover a firm for the first time (and that's more or less the case here, since we have only covered F&R in relation to the Shroff vs Shroff case), we need to provide some context. I.e., in case of start-ups, we may refer to its origin or founder in a headline for a while until readers know what the firm is.

And I still think mentioning the Cyril Shroff connection does that very effectively and succinctly in this case, explaining in a few words that this is a well-respected solicitors firm we're talking about rather than some 100 year-old solicitors firm from a different era that many people outside Mumbai or certain circles may have never heard of.
Guest 23 Jun 2018, 05:59
+33 -2
It's a simple equation from Juan's perspective. Anything tagged Shroff attracts huge traffic in Legally India. Even Tiger Shroff will probably do. ;)
Publicity 23 Jun 2018, 08:19
+12 -2
Exactly the reason why Kian chose to refer to them as Cyril Shroff’s lawyers. For the publicity. Cause whether good or bad, ignorant or well-researched, an article that gets publicity is all that matters to LI.
? 26 Jun 2018, 13:17
+0 -0
Who's Juan?
Bollywood Star 26 Jun 2018, 14:40
+0 -0
Juanny Juanardan's brother
Numbers? 23 Jun 2018, 08:39
+16 -4
Kian, are you looking for valuation of LI based on number of hits/ comments on your site? No other explanation for this kind of clickbait article.
Billbotcher 23 Jun 2018, 09:55
+10 -0
Wow. Some people clearly love this Firm.

Interesting that for non Mumbai lawyers, especially litigators it's a relatively unknown commodity.

With all the praise I'd consider working with them, but apparently they splitting so that is probably self defeating
Popcorn 23 Jun 2018, 11:08
+8 -22
All these self-appointed defenders of F&R's honour are even more hilarious than the army of SAM and CAM trolls that normally haunt the comments section.

Get over yourselves, they may be a good firm, but no one outside Mumbai and a few Delhi litigators have ever heard of them.
Concerned 23 Jun 2018, 17:37
+6 -5
Sour grapes much?! Or maybe some sad sack who sits and does DDs all day.
Your ignorance is funny.
Nobody 23 Jun 2018, 10:45
+28 -4
This article is an example of the lack of professionalism which renders Legally India less a journalistic publication and more a shoddy clickbait gossip column. Let me educate you a little Kian – 1. Just because you are ignorant that the practice of law involves more than just corporate law or you are that disillusioned that the practice involves only corporate law, doesn’t change the reality that there are other practice areas which exist which comprise of Tier 1 firms. Your ignorance does not impute to the world. F&R has been and was and will be with or without the AMSS split. If you make money of reporting on only corporate mandates, then disclaim so openly. Do not write articles in such condescending tones. 2. Please at least get your facts right before publishing. That’s the least one expects from a publication. When you say Mr. Rashmikant has an excellent present in the real estate sector, do you really know what you are talking about? What do you know of the firm’s practice? The second point in your education today is that Mr. Federal is the real estate partner in the firm. Do you know of his clientele? Just because a firm chooses not to report its work, doesn’t give you the right (journalistic even) to write absolute jibberish. That’s just lazy work Kian, googling a firm’s name and copy pasting an incorrect statement made by another website. In your corporate jargon – “do some sanity check”.

Do some homework and ask around in the fraternity about a partner’s practice, reputation and that of the firm before writing something. This is just unprofessional filth.

P.S. I don’t work at F&R, am a corporate lawyer. But I have had the opportunity to be on the other side of both Mr. Federal and Mr. Rashmikant and I know what stalwarts both are.
kianganz 23 Jun 2018, 11:01
+3 -33
Thanks for your feedback, but I don't understand your point. Does Mr Rashmikant NOT have any real estate clients? Is the Magic Lawyers listing incorrect, in praising him and his litigation reputation? Did we imply anywhere that they are not stellar lawyers? Did we imply that the firm was nothing but for Cyril Shroff's vote of confidence in them? Did we not explicitly mention that they are a 'top' firm?
Nobody 23 Jun 2018, 11:10
+20 -1
Kian, you are being lazy and convenient again.

1. The statement reads that the firm relies on one partners excellence, "especially" in the real estate space. That is very different from the question you are posing to me in retort. I hope you understand how argument logic works.

2. You are skewing the practice of the firm in the way you are representing it - Your article starts with the assertion that it is a leading litigation firm. That is simply not true. It is a leading real estate and litigation firm.

3. Hitting the mainstream press is not the same thing as being a well-known firm. Again, take a step back and understand the difference instead of trying to justify a position which is incorrect. As I said, do some research and then write or else accept that this forum is simply clickbait. The problem is the manner in which you representing the reputation of a firm, the practice of specific partners at the firm and the outlook that the readers of the articles garner. Grow up and start being responsible for what is being written.
kianganz 23 Jun 2018, 11:32
+4 -30
So your only real objection is that the article didn't prominently mention Mr Federal's real estate practice and prestige?

That can be and has now been easily remedied by including Chambers citations for both.

That said, your limited point certainly didn't justify your ad hominem or general tone of your comment (nor was it initially clear from your initial comment what your point was, other than general abuse along several different, somewhat confused tangents).
Pranish 23 Jun 2018, 13:41
+11 -1
Kian, that’s not the point that Kinshuk is making. If you understand the different practice areas of law, you’d realise that litigation and real estate are two different practice areas. Mr. Rashmikant is the litigation partner and Mr. Federal is the real estate partner. Your article, when published, stated that Mr. Rashmikant is the real estate partner. Kinshuk isn’t meaning that you didn’t give credit to Mr. Federal’s real estate practice. He meant you’ve got your facts wrong. I’m repeating what almost everyone else has said, get your facts right before posting such frivolous articles about respected senior lawyers in distate (clearly nobody here is impressed with your work). Or please spend time publishing meaningful, informative and educative articles that matter in the area of law, not clickbait articles. One more thing Kian, if you’ve got your facts wrong, you should probably own up rather than defend yourself cause it only makes you look bad.
kianganz 23 Jun 2018, 13:45
+1 -21
Thanks for clarifying, though I'm quite aware that they are separate practice areas, as is any first year law student presumably :)

But that still doesn't make the Magic Lawyers profile of Mr Rashmikant's litigation practice incorrect, unless he indeed does not have any real estate clients? But considering that Mr Federal is a real estate lawyer, it would make sense that Mr Rashmikant also represents those clients in court and that he's developed strong relationships in the space too.

It could be that this is incorrect, and that Mr Rashmikant does not have any real estate clients he represents in litigations, but I haven't heard any evidence of that here. If that is the case, do please let me know and I'll happily make a correction.
Motivated. 23 Jun 2018, 14:25
+4 -2
I quote:
[i]"The firm has been considered as one of the cornerstones of Mumbai's changing cityscape.

Named partner M Federal has been considered as one of the foremost authorities on Mumbai Real Estate Law and is often called upon by both traditional and new developers, whenever they have any complex transactions. The firm is known to be highly meticulous with its searches and provides solutions for the most complicated transactions."[/i]

This is in the [b]Real Estate listing[/b] at Magic Lawyers where they are talking of the firms real estate practice.

On the [b]Firm page[/b], it is speaking of their [b]Litigation[/b] strength and therefore of Mr. Rahmikant and his relationships with Real Estate clients, not the Real estate practice.

So while all of you blame Kian for a lack of research, please do your own.

Kian, those of us without hidden agendas appreciate your work. Please don't let people like this get to you.
Pranish 23 Jun 2018, 14:33
+3 -0
Ah! So Magic Circle is your source of information on lawyers!! Of course, they’re an authority that can never be incorrect! LOL

Even the home page of Magic Lawyers has two different areas called litigation and real estate. Real Estate practice is different (which involves real estate transactional work) from Litigation practice (which may include real estate related litigation not transactional work). When one says one is a real estate lawyer, generally one means a real estate transaction lawyer.

Hope the lesson on the difference between Real Estate practice and Litigation practice has made things clear for you.
Pranish ka baap 23 Jun 2018, 15:24
+4 -6
Before you lecture kian, he is not a god to know the ins and outs of all practice areas. Just because you are from one practice area and know more than kian doesn't mean you try to school him. You can tell him things nicely rather than putting your name and showing off here
Pranish 23 Jun 2018, 17:48
+3 -0
Hello baap! Firstly, I didnt suggest that kian is a god and ought to be aware of all practice areas. Maybe you should read Kian’s earlier post in this thread where he’s said that he’s quite aware that they are different practice areas, as would any first year law student. But the rest of his post still seemed to suggest that he wasn’t aware and hence I posted my earlier comment. Secondly, I have no intentions of lecturing anyone about something so trivial or showing off. I was only trying to explain what Kinshuk was trying to convey to Kian.

Pranaam.
Kislaya? 23 Jun 2018, 15:21
+3 -6
Kislaya bhai, whom are you trying to impress here? Trying for a future job with either? Aise why personal dushmani are you removing with kian? Not that you post or comment anywhere so why particularly this post on LI? Whom are you trying to impress? Li keeps posting stupid stuff, would love to see your comments there too rather than jumping around this post!!
Note to The editor 23 Jun 2018, 11:46
+14 -2
Dear Kian,

Please go to Chambers, check both individuals rankings. Cheers. When it’s raining one gets lazy. We all understand.
kianganz 23 Jun 2018, 11:49
+4 -12
Thanks, has been done now and article updated :)
Guest 23 Jun 2018, 14:26
+21 -1
Find LI’s lack of respect for old school litigation and real estate firms sad. This would not be the case if they were really insiders in legal industry.
Just because you may not hear of F and R in the media, does not make them insignificant. F and R is very well known and respected in legal circles. This is what really matters. Not media and fanfare.
Motivated. 23 Jun 2018, 14:52
+8 -4
Kian ticks all the boxes of what journalists must do. He has clearly mentioned that they 'face' a break up. I do not know of his sources, but the fact remains that it is true. All firms across the country are facing a massive cash crunch. You saw such high fresher hiring because everyone is trying to reduce costs while keeping up numbers. The Firm has been unable to keep up with the times. I am not suggesting that they are bankrupt, but for those as senior as Mr. F and Mr. R, it isn't about sustaining themselves, it is about achieving. Unfortunately, the current legal environment in India has taken the fun and excitement out of being a lawyer and the two of them are lawyers, unlike many others with a law degree.

Kian further puts in a descriptor (the CAM reference) that will resonate more with his reader base. All of you purported well-wishers of F&R have only ended up negatively impacting their reputation on this forum. Whereas what Kian had done was introduce their brilliance to a much larger audience by sticking his neck out and calling them a 'top' firm. Something he does not even do for the Shroffs, Luthra or Zia. Thus, in his own way giving a parting gift to the two of them by trying to establish the last memory this generation has of them as being a top firm. Instead what all of you have managed to do is project an image of in fighting, where each one is fighting for credit and relevance. Sad.

Kian also further refers to RSG and Magic Lawyers who only have good things to say about the firm and Mr. F and Mr. R. Thus, further telling his reader base that others think positively about the two of them. All of you instead go on about how Mr. R does not run the real estate practice. Kian refers to clientele, not practice area. Magic Lawyers clearly covers Mr. F as a doyen of the Real Estate sector and gives credit to the Litigation practice sun by Mr. R as comprising of real estate clients.

All that Kian tried to do was cement their credentials. All that you have succeeded in doing is sullying their reputation.

Both of them deserve better than that. They are stalwarts of the industry. Amongst the last ones standing after Mr. Popat's death. Mr. Bhakta remains so does Mr. Bharucha. These are only a handful. Have the respect of being courteous and kind when you speak of them. Be careful of what you say. None of these names would appreciate the lack of comprehension on display. Respect that.

Troll this post if you may, but please remember you will be continuing to do injustice to those you seek to defend through your unfounded excitement on this non-issue.
Ki Farak Painda 23 Jun 2018, 15:08
+5 -0
Yawn . . . why so much nitpicking? Kian has been effusive in his praise for the firm, but some insider is hell bent on finding fault in what Kian has reported, because this insider thinks he knows more and wants to assert his deep knowledge. Be happy with the positive coverage and move on folks.
Pista 23 Jun 2018, 15:28
+8 -1
Federal & Rashmikant probably have more litigation matters in South Mumbai than all the top firms like CAM,SAM,etc combined!!!

"Re-organizing/Re-structuring" we'll have to wait & see.
Delhite 24 Jun 2018, 11:51
+3 -0
Bahut senti log hai F&R wale. Give some breathing space to Kian. Its their news story, which has some wide spread readers, all over India. Though calling them as lawyers of cyril shroff in the headline wasn't a wise choice. But being lawyers we shouldn't choke LI as the Constitution still enlists freedom of speech and expression as a fundamental right. If they have reported anything incorrect, do correct them but let them report the news/facts as they want.
Magic Square 25 Jun 2018, 09:58
+25 -2
No one is talking about the elephant in the room.

Federal is someone's name!???!!

If I was him, I'd name my daughter "Quasi". Just to mess with people.
Whats in name 25 Jun 2018, 14:28
+1 -0
Or "Bank" or "Bureau of Investigation"!!!
problem 25 Jun 2018, 12:09
+0 -0
Why is the "sorted chronologically"link disabled for comments?
Priorities 25 Jun 2018, 20:59
+3 -0
Talking about the real issues at hand.
Dazed and Confused 13 Aug 2018, 06:47
+0 -0
I've run out of popcorn watching this tamasha. Can someone with a leading agricultural law practice please pop up some more? Many junior lawyers without an opportunity to actually argue seem to be taking up space here. It's very entertaining!