Traditional NLU Jodhpur recruiters Amarchand Mangaldas, Luthra & Luthra and Trilegal hit campus again on 2 April, in addition to Khaitan & Co, to make 12 job offers to the class graduating in 2015.
Amarchand and Luthra made four offers each, Trilegal made three and Khaitan made one offer, after 55 students from the class sat for placement on campus.
Jodhpur’s placement cell member Sachin Bandhawat told Legally India that the firms were yet to give out offer contracts to the students, after which the students would communicate acceptances.
These numbers exclude pre-placement offers (PPOs).
The law school has maintained its three-year track record of roughly identical Day Zero placement percentages, with 11 offers having been made last year out of a batch of 80 graduating in 2014, and 14 offers having been made in 2012 to the class of 2013.
Last week NLSIU Bangalore secured 33 Day Zero offers (including PPOs) for its batch of 70 with 54 students participating in campus recruitments.
In figures
Batch strength: 92
Students part of recruitment committee: 55
- Amarchand: 4
- Luthra: 4
- Trilegal: 3 (+ 1 subject to internship)
- Khaitan: 1
Comments
Kian, do you have any stats as to how what percentage of students opted for placements at the top 10 law schools in last year, how many of them actually got jobs through the placement cells and how many actually ended up in litigation? May make an interesting topic for an article considering the founders of most of the top law schools originally wanted to improve the quality of lawyers at the bar.
A bit more info on Day Zero in this story:
http://www.legallyindia.com/201404104594/Law-schools/day-zero-33-nlsiu-fourth-years-bag-early-jobs-amarchand-khaitan-heaviest
Kian...recruiters are not unaware of the traits imbibed by applicants from their law schools. For eg NLSIU students are arrogant but they back it up with some good brains so they are tolerated. GLC Mumbai intellect may be low (actually they know almost nothing because they have practically zero classes) but they work hard and learn quickly. NLU Jodhpur teaches some rubbish physics / chemistry / biology for 2 yrs or more at the cost of law subjects and this is reflected in their alumni who have to "unlearn" a lot of this rubbish. This is why I blame NLUJ for the students intellect (or lack of it)
The B.Sc., LL.B. students take only 2 science papers every semester, instead of 2 B.A. or B.B.A. papers. They also study the mandatory B.A. papers prescribed by the UGC/BCI i.e. legal history, sociology, economics and political science. B.Sc. stream students have been batch toppers (since it is possible to score 90+ marks in science papers, but not so in B.A. papers). They have also been recruited by Magic Circle firms and even cracked the UPSC with top 30 rank. Reason? At the end of the day, ones legal knowledge and analytical skills matter the most.
If you want to think outside the proverbial "frog well", consider the fact that many partners in the world's largest firms have non-social science background, but succeeded on the basis of their legal knowledge and life skills. Over the course of writing this comment, I have started feeling bad for you. You'll do well to broaden your horizon and arm yourself with facts. Do you think all NLSIU students fare better than all GLC students? Sleep on it (or Google GLC alumni).
As regards placements, NLU typically places 12-20 students on Day Zero and the rest of the offers come through PPOs, final year internships and the last phase of campus placements. The placement process in NLU is a bit different from NLSIU, so an “absolute” comparison will be skewed. Having said that, NLSIU is the crown jewel amongst NLUs and also has a great alumni base – naturally, they fare better on Day Zero numbers. It is a quite illogical (and also unfair) to compare the Day Zero of NLSIU and NLU.
Of course, haters gonna hate and you can sling mud if you must, but you end up saying naive and petty things, which only reflect on you. Grow up and get a grip.
Congrats to the students who got offers and all the best to the others.
Wake up dude with superior placements, 2nd Highest number of partners placed in tier 1 law firms amongst the nlus I am sure Bhopal is ages ahead of whatever C-grade law school you are a part of. Not everyone can get a good rank in clat bro. So don't get frustrated , chill and enjoy your life
Wake up dude with superior placements, 2nd Highest number of partners placed in tier 1 law firms amongst the nlus I am sure Bhopal is ages ahead of whatever C-grade law school you are a part of. Not everyone can get a good rank in clat bro. So don't get frustrated , chill and enjoy your life[/quote]
I derive a bit of schadenfreude seeing the discomfort in your very defensive reply. NLU Bhopal is basically a waiting list for NUJS/NALSAR just as NUJS/NALSAR is a waiting list for NLSIU. A location that is in the backwaters of a rural state with not much of a city to speak of, NLIU Bhopal has one of the shadiest faculty lists that no one has ever heard. It's so bad that no one can even create a scam by leaving. LOL
The student body is 50% full of state quota people and unlike Tamil Nadu, Andhra, Kerala or Bengal, M.P. is not exactly a birthplace of great minds and this is reflected in the calibre of their alumni - who are mostly languishing or ignored by the big recruiters - except for a token promotion now and then. How many partners at AMSS, AZB and JSA are from NLIU Bhopal by the way?
Already the perception is that NLU Jodhpur is as good if not better than Bhopal. Time is not far when when HNLU and GNLU will overtake Bhopal.
- 1 at AMSS
- 1 at Luthra
- 1 at Trilegal
- 2 at JSA
- 5 at Khaitan
[quote name="Guest"][quote name="NLIU BHOPAL"]Which is trying hard to be India's worst law school?
Wake up dude with superior placements, 2nd Highest number of partners placed in tier 1 law firms amongst the nlus I am sure Bhopal is ages ahead of whatever C-grade law school you are a part of. Not everyone can get a good rank in clat bro. So don't get frustrated , chill and enjoy your life[/quote]
I derive a bit of schadenfreude seeing the discomfort in your very defensive reply. NLU Bhopal is basically a waiting list for NUJS/NALSAR just as NUJS/NALSAR is a waiting list for NLSIU. A location that is in the backwaters of a rural state with not much of a city to speak of, NLIU Bhopal has one of the shadiest faculty lists that no one has ever heard. It's so bad that no one can even create a scam by leaving. LOL
The student body is 50% full of state quota people and unlike Tamil Nadu, Andhra, Kerala or Bengal, M.P. is not exactly a birthplace of great minds and this is reflected in the calibre of their alumni - who are mostly languishing or ignored by the big recruiters - except for a token promotion now and then. How many partners at AMSS, AZB and JSA are from NLIU Bhopal by the way?
Already the perception is that NLU Jodhpur is as good if not better than Bhopal. Time is not far when when HNLU and GNLU will overtake Bhopal.[/quote]
[quote name="Host"]10 partners from NLIU:
- 1 at AMSS
- 1 at Luthra
- 1 at Trilegal
- 2 at JSA
- 5 at Khaitan
[quote name="Guest"][quote name="NLIU BHOPAL"]Which is trying hard to be India's worst law school?
Wake up dude with superior placements, 2nd Highest number of partners placed in tier 1 law firms amongst the nlus I am sure Bhopal is ages ahead of whatever C-grade law school you are a part of. Not everyone can get a good rank in clat bro. So don't get frustrated , chill and enjoy your life[/quote]
I derive a bit of schadenfreude seeing the discomfort in your very defensive reply. NLU Bhopal is basically a waiting list for NUJS/NALSAR just as NUJS/NALSAR is a waiting list for NLSIU. A location that is in the backwaters of a rural state with not much of a city to speak of, NLIU Bhopal has one of the shadiest faculty lists that no one has ever heard. It's so bad that no one can even create a scam by leaving. LOL
The student body is 50% full of state quota people and unlike Tamil Nadu, Andhra, Kerala or Bengal, M.P. is not exactly a birthplace of great minds and this is reflected in the calibre of their alumni - who are mostly languishing or ignored by the big recruiters - except for a token promotion now and then. How many partners at AMSS, AZB and JSA are from NLIU Bhopal by the way?
Already the perception is that NLU Jodhpur is as good if not better than Bhopal. Time is not far when when HNLU and GNLU will overtake Bhopal.[/quote][/quote]
- 1 at AMSS
- 1 at Luthra
- 1 at Trilegal
- 2 at JSA
- 5 at Khaitan
[/quote]
Good boy. Now here's some more stats showing partners from NUJS/NALSAR at these firms
>> AMSS = 3:4 (counting the two from NALSAR who quit few months ago)
>> AZB = 0:1
>> Khaitan = 4:2
>> JSA 2:3
>> Trilegal I don't know what you've counted
The better firms are clearly recruiting (and promoting) more people from NALSAR/NUJS (and NLSIU which is quite obvious). This is despite NLIU having an additional batch over NUJS, being a more 'ancient' law school.
- 1 at AMSS
- 1 at Luthra
- 1 at Trilegal
- 2 at JSA
- 5 at Khaitan
[/quote]
Good boy. Now here's some more stats showing partners from NUJS/NALSAR at these firms
>> AMSS = 3:4 (counting the two from NALSAR who quit few months ago)
>> AZB = 0:1
>> Khaitan = 4:2
>> JSA 2:3
>> Trilegal I don't know what you've counted
The better firms are clearly recruiting (and promoting) more people from NALSAR/NUJS (and NLSIU which is quite obvious). This is despite NLIU having an additional batch over NUJS, being a more 'ancient' law school.[/quote]
This is surely some NUJS person who has not got a job and throwing around attitude again. [...]
The point here was clearly about a disgruntled NLUJ grad who did not get a job, possibly because he lives in his own bubble without knowing the facts of the Indian Legal market. It is interesting to see an NUJS student get so pinched by the same.
NLIU is only 1 year older than NUJS!! Yet NUJS does not manage to come close, forget match, the number of partners of NLIU Bhopal. As you see, NUJS and NLUJ have always lived in this bubble, whereas NLIU students quietly went about their work.
I have been working at a Tier-1 law firm since passing out from NLIU, and guys, you must see the uality of NLUJ and NUJS guys. As you may know, not many NLUJ grads make it to Tier-1, whereas, NUJS grads have been running away as they cannot take the pressure. In fact, they use excuses of "Start-ups". I do not wish to name anybody specific here. People within the firm know the stories.
Well, back to NLUJ. The grapes are sour aren't they? When you perform bad, best thing to do is divert the attention. Well, funny thing is, except for the 2007-2008 NLIU batches, ALL other batches have been placed better than NLUJ every year!! No doubt, those NLIU students are performing better now.
NLUJ, would you like to explain why are your own so-called loyal firms not recruiting from your college anymore? Luthra picks 4 compared to 15 during old days!! AMSS pick 4 compared to 10 earlier!! Majmudar, ARA, SnR etc do not even visit your campus!! tleast the firms loyal to NLIU have remained so. Something is wrong within. Better introspect yourself else you make a fool of yourself. When you point a finger at other, 3 point back to you. Remember, being from one of the earlier NLIU batches you are not gaining any brownie points from me or anyone!! Law firms know why NLUJ and NUJS are on the decline. Time for you to wake up and realise that too!!
This is surely some NUJS person who has not got a job and throwing around attitude again. [...]
The point here was clearly about a disgruntled NLUJ grad who did not get a job, possibly because he lives in his own bubble without knowing the facts of the Indian Legal market. It is interesting to see an NUJS student get so pinched by the same. [/quote]
Are you meaning disgruntled NLUJ grad or NUJS grad ? Or are you confused ? Or are all the disgruntled lads of the world out to get back at NLIU Bhopal? ROFL
[quote name="NLIU Alumni"]
NLIU is only 1 year older than NUJS!! Yet NUJS does not manage to come close, forget match, the number of partners of NLIU Bhopal. As you see, NUJS and NLUJ have always lived in this bubble, whereas NLIU students quietly went about their work. [/quote]
Can you explain how NLIU alumni have produced more partners than NUJS alumni? Some statistics are already part of the comments above and it's clear it's the other way round.
[quote name="NLIU Alumni"]
I have been working at a Tier-1 law firm since passing out from NLIU, and guys, you must see the uality of NLUJ and NUJS guys. As you may know, not many NLUJ grads make it to Tier-1, whereas, NUJS grads have been running away as they cannot take the pressure. In fact, they use excuses of "Start-ups". I do not wish to name anybody specific here. People within the firm know the stories. [/quote]
Have any NLIU alumni ever set up anything? A firm ? A chai shop? Just asking. To my knowledge more NUJS students are recruited than NLIU. IF you read the LegallyIndia recruitment stories you will have the statistics at your hand.
[quote name="NLIU Alumni"]
Well, back to NLUJ. The grapes are sour aren't they? When you perform bad, best thing to do is divert the attention. Well, funny thing is, except for the 2007-2008 NLIU batches, ALL other batches have been placed better than NLUJ every year!! No doubt, those NLIU students are performing better now.[/quote]
NLU J is much younger than NLIU Bhopal. It's difficult to draw a comparison but for the last two years the recruitment stories show roughly comparable performance between the two which is quite commendable considering the head start that NLIU Bhopal had.
[quote name="NLIU Alumni"]
NLUJ, would you like to explain why are your own so-called loyal firms not recruiting from your college anymore? Luthra picks 4 compared to 15 during old days!! AMSS pick 4 compared to 10 earlier!! Majmudar, ARA, SnR etc do not even visit your campus!! tleast the firms loyal to NLIU have remained so. Something is wrong within. Better introspect yourself else you make a fool of yourself. When you point a finger at other, 3 point back to you. Remember, being from one of the earlier NLIU batches you are not gaining any brownie points from me or anyone!! Law firms know why NLUJ and NUJS are on the decline. Time for you to wake up and realise that too!![/quote]
Which are the "loyal firms" you refer to? These days the best firms dont even bother travelling to Bhopal anymore. Just to clarify I'm referring to AMSS, AZB, JSA and Trilegal. Not Luthra and Khaitan
Here are some recruitment stories if you're too lazy to search
http://www.legallyindia.com/201204252767/Law-schools/2013-recruitment-day-zero-at-nalsar-gnlu-nliu-amarchand-trilegal-hire-30
(shows even GNLU is doing better than NLIU Bhopal)
http://www.legallyindia.com/201308023882/Law-schools/recruitment-forecast-bleak-at-nliu-bhopal-as-amarchand-and-lpo-flag-off-day-zero
(headline speaks for itself)
Also,. check out the CLAT preference analysis at
http://www.legallyindia.com/201206032865/Pre-law-student/2012-clat-preference-analysis-nls-strengthens-top-only-3-prefer-nalsar-nujs-as-nuals-nlu-o-gain
http://www.legallyindia.com/201306033719/Pre-law-student/2013-clat-preferences-nuals-drops
This makes it evident that prospective students perception of NLIU Bhopal is no different from recruiters (unsurprisingly) and NLIU Bhopal is only marginally above NLIU Jodhpur and nowhere close to NUJS.
Do you have anything else to say?
http://www.legallyindia.com/Law-firms/nlu-jodhpur-s-day-zero-set-to-may-double-last-year-s-record-with-massive-ppo-haul-for-2016-batch#comments
Also, it's not 28 but 31. Also, this is only placements with 4, yes 4 firms. Poor NLIU.
In the partner list produced by LegallyIndia - NLIU had 7-8 partners in Big-Six, which has moved up to 10 in the past few months. Jodhpur had none. Zero.
However, I do agree that Jodhpur may have better faculty, but do you really think NLUs in general have "good" standards as far as faculty is concerned? We all suffer.
In the partner list produced by LegallyIndia - NLIU had 7-8 partners in Big-Six, which has moved up to 10 in the past few months. Jodhpur had none. Zero.
However, I do agree that Jodhpur may have better faculty, but do you really think NLUs in general have "good" standards as far as faculty is concerned? We all suffer.[/quote]
I am not out to flame or be politically correct for the sake of it and so will give you my reasons.
I agree the comment about M.P. not producing great minds sounds regionalist but it is largely the unpleasant truth. Different cultures have different strengths and weaknesses. Biharis for example are not known for being highly intelligent but they are very hard working. Malayalis are brainy but perceived as scheming. Given a choice I would want to study among people who are brainy (and that includes not just the student body but the people in the vicinity, neighbourhood and city). Thats one reason why NLU Delhi and GLC Mumbai have so much going for them. In the case of NLIU Bhopal the problem is compounded by an absurd state quota that ensures the student body is half filled with the locals, largely negating the benefits of having a class of people from various states. That might have been tolerable if the state was T.N., Andhra, W Bengal, Kerala or even Bihar/Jharkhand but M.P. is pretty much the pits. In addition my own experience has been that NLIU Bhopal alumni are by and large dull and slow, unlike NALSAR and NLSIU.
Jodhpur is not much better as a city compared to Bhopal but the student mix is better and the faculty is also better even though the syllabus and the BSc / BBA rubbish is a negative. Still, the fact that Jodhpur being 3 years
younger than Bhopal is almost at par if not more sought after is testament to what I have said. That's also a reason why they have no partners yet - because their senior batch would have had only 7 years experience till date.
Try replacing any of the regions in your comment with 'Jewish', 'black', 'Asian', 'Indian' or any other racial group, and think about whether that's a valid statement to make...
The fact is that most places in India and most law schools are melting pots, where you get a mix of all regions and backgrounds, and that's the way it should be.
State quotas can skew the balance not because of any inherent regional characteristics of citizens, but just because the CLAT cutoff is usually lower than the non-quota cut-off...
http://www.mid-day.com/articles/bvp-law-college-dean-caught-at-his-flat-with-student-/15234082
1 at Luthra;
1 at IC Legal;
1 at ALG India; and
1 at Brain League.
And before you guys go and lambast about lack of Tier-1 law firm partners, I am not participating in a mud-slinging match. I believe my college is great as are all the older NLUs (with good wishes to the younger ones)and debating which is better in this manner does not in any way reflect the pedigree expected of a law school graduate.
Peace out.
Where are the GNLU Zero day results