The Union Public Service Commission (UPSC) has announced the 2018 list of the civil services main examination, with at least 10 national law school graduates seeming to be in the list:
- Rank 8: Vaishali Singh (NLU Delhi)
- Rank 33: Manisha Awhale (ILS Pune)
- Rank 50: Rangashree T K (NLU Delhi)
- Rank 122: Anviti Chaturvedi (NUJS Kolkata 2014)
- Rank 139: P Promoth (Nalsar Hyderabad 2015, had also sat last year with 791 rank)
- Rank 265: Ananya Kumar Singh (NLIU Bhopal 2017)
- Rank 531: Saloni Sharma (NLU Delhi 2016)
- Rank 562: Sparsh Gupta (NLSIU Bangalore 2015, currently assistant legal advisor ONGC)
- Rank 621: Saisha Raj Orke (GNLU Gandhinagar 2017)
- Rank 639: Akshay Gupta, University School of Law, GGSIPU 2016)
- Rank 648: Suruchi Singh (NLSIU 2015)
- Rank 668: Devahuti (Jammu University, interesting story)
- Rank 737: Atheeth Sajeevan (NLS 2018)
Full list here (PDF, via UPSC)
Last year, three NLU grads had made the top 100, with three from NLU Delhi and one from Nalsar Hyderabad. Another 10 scored ranks in the top 1000.
All credit to the LI commenters who have pointed out the above. Since it’s a long, long list, if you know of any other law grads who have made the cut, please do share in the comments and we’ll update.
Comments
https://www.visionias.net/2019/04/36-candidates-from-state-clear-civil-services-exam.html
Kian, please be responsible and remove the story. Put it up only when you have full info. It is unfair to NLUD that you have not mentioned it in the headline. You just put up this story quickly in order to beat Bar & Bench and Livelaw. This is just like Republic TV.
In reality, going through 759 names and trying to confirm who is and who is not a law graduate (i.e., the 'full info') would take hours or days for any one person without encyclopedic knowledge of each college, and even then you're likely to miss some names. So we decided to crowdsource it and are continually updating the story after corroborating names, which seems to be working quite well.
We have updated 3 more names since publication, thanks everyone for sharing.
http://www.thenewsnow.co.in/newsdet.aspx?q=76014
Sakshi Sawhney (NALSAR, rank 6)
Not that it takes away from NLUD's spectacular successes in recent years.
https://in.linkedin.com/in/vaishali-singh-64734aa2
Photo here: http://www.deathpenaltyindia.com/img/pages/DPIR/vaishali.jpg
Students and alumni cutting across NLUs should be proud of this girl. We need for NLU alumni in the UPSC and more students should think of it as a career.
And FYI, the majority of students of almost all law schools focus on non-law firm careers these days. If not at graduation, a couple of years thereafter. And that has been the trend for decades now across law schools (not just NLU D) - start ups, LAMP fellowships, careers in UN, NGOs, MBAs, litigation and ofcourse, civil services. Law firm placements are announced with great fanfare but it is because it is the easiest to advertise. Half the time, people don't even end up joining since they are just using that as a back up option. You may know the truth only about your NLU-D, but let information asymmetry colour your judgement about other law schools.
https://www.facebook.com/163514404792/posts/10157060977629793/
So.
Sparsh and Atheeth are making it to the top services for sure.
How unhappy are you in your life that you need to degrade CAM or SAM. why? Why so bitter in life. I mean, didn't hose stimulating lectures teach you that disrespecting what others are doing isnt right?
Well done to everyone who made it and special applause for the NLUD-ites!
https://barandbench.com/nlu-delhi-grad-vaishali-singh-bags-8th-rank-in-2018-upsc-exam/
Thank God, they were not foolish enough to get lured by law firm carrots. Wish I had done something like this and make my life worthwhile. Now, my life is all about timesheets.
Wasn't said anything against civil services. Very reputed service and immense opportunities to go miles in life the service provides!
Have recently started following Live Law. If one were a great learner of law - that's the site to read up, instead of these time-wasting futile bitching sessions.
However, we were forced to take the decision a while ago to re-focus on our original mission to cover the under-covered corporate law space and legal education. Sadly, in my opinion, considering the sheer scale of the bar, it is not possible to add much value in litigation coverage / court reporting without very deep pockets, and even then, I don't think the maths works out, especially with so many different competitors in the space (including national papers, TV channels and even, to some extent, Manupatras and the like).
We are not looking to serve every kind of reader or make everyone happy, because that is an impossible thing to do (even for companies like Bennett Coleman).
So yes, if LI is a blog (whatever that means nowadays) it is proudly so, and I am grateful for and delighted by the wonderful readers and community that exists around it (even if it is sometimes bitchy). And fortunately LI is also part of an ecosystem where you are welcome to frequent as many websites or media sources as you like to get your information.
https://indianexpress.com/article/education/president-ram-nath-kovind-to-announce-nirf-ranking-tomorrow-5663258/
In law firms/litigation - you work through to get to the top.
In IAS/IPS - you are in a corner office from day 1 - handling some of the most challenging ideas.
Maybe, you can watch NDTV debate - wherein an IAS officer. who earned a Harvard MBA, worked in building a successful billion worth startup, was asked: MBA or IAS? He says, 'IAS without a doubt. There's no second thought on that.' I will rely on experience, rather than our conjectures.
I am a lawyer working with a law firm, and am already too bored with this lifestyle.
And restaurants? They fail to appeal you after a particular stage. There are more meaningful things to be done in life. Feel sad for yourself, may be. For the judgment, and monotonous life.
My dad was in one of the group A services, some rubbish service called ITS. All his life he's been a file pusher (no shame in that) but he always candidly admitted that his scope to do anything was N-I-L. If he differed from his seniors he would be transferred out, if he contradicted them he'd be sucked into a departmental proceeding in which his career advancement would be finished. If he refused to sign off on his boss's notes he would be totally sidelined. If he exposed scams in telecom equipment procurement he would be insulted and possibly threatened. At 60 he felt that he'd accomplished nothing worthwhile, made not much money, got a few foreign trips which were sops and wasted his education (he's an IITian).
The salary is a huge factor. The highest salary payable to a cabinet secretary is Rs 2.5 lakhs per month, or about 27 lakhs a year (at the age of 60). A lawyer can earn that much in 4 years as an SA. A 60 year old partner will make 5-10 crores legally.
Its also a myth that civil servants "build the nation brick by brick" as some joker posted. In reality top level policy decisions always seek inputs from senior advocates, partners, GCs of big firms, etc. My dad used to carry drafts of telecom policy to the GC of Vodafone and Airtel for their views. After that he had to meet couple of senior partners at old AMSS Delhi who would keep him waiting as it was non-billable work for them. Look around, all top committees, bodies have senior lawyers on them, unfettered by allegiance to government in making their views.
Being a lawyer or doctor is far more prestigious than being a civil servant. All jobs are monotonous and boring after a while but law firms do not require you to constantly battle with your conscience to avoid scamming, skimming or taking bribes. Keeping a clean nose in the civil service is insanely difficult, look at Khemka, 52 transfers in 27 years!??? What kind of shit life is that???
For every Khemka, there are at least 10 other bureaucrats who are happy with the service and things they are getting to do in life.
My dad is an IAS officer - now serving at the Additional Chief Secretary level. And, sadly I have been sucked into corp law firm [which I am planning to leave, in any case]. I feel whoever says shit about IAS/IPS - either he has not seen the aura or it's a matter of sour grapes.
And I have seen how dad did what he did - took effective decisions, which aimed at transformation of lives of people. I still see people of that particular city/town being grateful for the work done then. So much so, a political party requested him to fight elections from that particular constituency. No wonder the ex- Chief Secretaries are given BJP/Congress tickets this season.
As for policy decisions - have seen it myself that how industrialists worth thousands of crores rupees line up in dad's office. Yes, the same industrialists in whose offices we - the corp lawyers - line up to get billable work.
IAS/IPS/IFS/IRS officers generate enormous respect in the society. And, thats why they are in a different league. Nobody gives UPSC to become ITS/IDES officer. They give it to become IAS/IPS/IRS/IFS officers.
It's a food chain. IAS/IRS/IPS (highest order> Industrialists/Corporates (s -> Law firms (lowest orders)
And, if your dad got ITS (and not IAS/IPS/IRS) after IIT 9 years - why did he settle for that? Who goes to ITS after IIT. Either that's some made up shit or you are being delusional about the prestige of IAS.
Or - is it a matter of sour grapes, while pushing emails in your law firm cubicle? :)
Let's respect for once - the guys who have made it to the top after clearing UPSC - the mother of exams. You needs guts, even to prepare for this.
People usually forget that with SAs earning money - they also have bills/EMIs/rents to pay - none of which is usually there (apart from some token money) in IAS. IAS gives you a very very comfortable life in money-terms.
Why are we even having this debate? It's quite non-sensical, actually. IAS is in a different league altogether.
Being in a law firm for 8 years - can say - it's shitty, with certainty. My bad luck was that I couldn't realise and was too myopic, happy with the initial money. And so are these kids now, I feel.
On another note - have seen myself how my boss has made endeavours to make contacts with Joint Secretary level officials. JS level officers are Gods in policy making. They are the deciders.
Maybe, you haven't seen that life. I have done so - from closest quarters.
And yeah, ITS is shitty. Who denies that ever? But, how are you so wise to club ITS with IAS? POLES APART.
Just go to CGO complex or Udyog Bhavan - to cure your delusion. You'll see how bankers and lawyers are made to wait there.
It's rather the other way around. Law firm partners are made to wait. Industrialists are made to wait - since it's their vested interests which are involved here.
I am, myself, working in Big 6. I have seen how my boss is made to wait too often in Udyog Bhavan. Just go to CGO complex. You'll find lawyers waiting for the Joint Secretaries to arrive - and pleading their point in front of them.
Maybe, ITS is not at the top of league like IAS/IPS/IRS. But, you are most likely to be surrounded with telecos honchos in your office. a
To the shit lies about ITS - I feel sorry about the ways people are misguided.
There is no genuine respect in society. On the other hand - my mother gets too many perks (even being ITS) - that we can't afford.
Truth is - no matter how much money I am earning here in corp firms - nobody knows me, when I step out of office.
ITS can mean: Indian Trade Service/ Indian Telecom Service
Trade is by Civil Service Exam and Telecom is by Engineering Service Exam.
Both aren't good and by the way no policy decision is taken by any telecom service officer. There are Joint Secretaries, Additional Secretaries and a Secretary from the IAS who take these decisions. No ITS officer is a JS in any ministry and ITS officers are treated badly even among other Engineering Service officers. BSNL and MTNL are being shut down and no ITS officer even has a cadre posting as of now.
With regard to Indian Trade Service, your highest post is Additional Director General of Trade which even IRS/IAS officers occupy. Your DG is an IAS. All policy decisions come from Department of Commerce.
All your SA is money - which is quite ordinary. Many people get that. As they said, "Bandar kya jaane adarak ka swaad."
If people like Kanishak [son of IAS officer] go for UPSC [after leaving their jobs] - there is CERTAINLY something that makes them opt for IAS over private jobs. After all, they have seen both the worlds from closes quarters.